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They apparently really HATE Obamacare!
Ok Kossacks, time to hold off chewing that popcorn or buying an additional hot dog because it appears that the largest movie theater in the U.S. is cutting off staff because of, you guessed it, Obamacare.

Let's see:  How many chained restaurants have threatened to or are cutting staff because of Obamacare?  

Papa John's Pizza
Jimmy John's
Popeye's
The franchise owner of the company that owns Applebee's
Taco Bell
Wendy's
Darden Restaurants (which owns Olive Garden and Red Lobster)

And how who comes next?  No, it's not a restaurant chain which food actually blows chunks (actually, I like Wednesday's Frosty and Red Lobster's biscuits).

It's Regal Entertainment Cinemas.  Yeah, instead of lowering ticket prices to bring in more people to theaters because of the "streaming revolution" or showing films of more quality or more unique film exhibition, Regal has decided to cut work hours because of Obamacare.

Feast your eyes Regal Entertainment's original decision:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/...

Projecting High Costs Under ObamaCare, Theater Chain Slashes Work Hours

Written by  Michael Tennant

Employees’ work hours are landing on the cutting-room floor at the nation’s largest movie theater chain, and according to the company, ObamaCare is to blame.

In March, Regal Entertainment Group, which operates over 500 theaters in 38 states, reduced non-salaried employees’ hours to 30 per week. Under the Affordable Care Act, employers with 50 or more full-time employees — defined as those working more than 30 hours per week — are required to offer “affordable” health insurance to all those employees or pay a $2,000 penalty for each one who instead obtains subsidized insurance on an exchange. By keeping many employees from being classified as full-time, Regal will not be forced to offer them insurance, which can be very costly: $4,664 for an individual and $11,429 for a family, on average, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Theater managers left to convey the bad news to their employees asked Regal for guidance on how best to explain the work reductions. In a memo obtained by Fox News, the company suggested this explanation: “To comply with the Affordable Care Act, Regal had to increase our health care budget to cover those newly deemed eligible based on the law’s definition of a full-time employee.”

“To manage this budget,” the memo continues, “all other employees will be scheduled in accord with business needs and in a manner that will not negatively impact our health care budget.”

face palm  Oh no they didn't!

The manager of one Regal theater told Fox News that the company’s hour slashing “has sparked a wave of resignations from full-time managers who have seen their hours cut by 25 percent or more.”

“In the last couple weeks, managers have been quitting on a daily basis from various locations to try and find full-time work,” said the manager, speaking on condition of anonymity. “Regal up until now has never restricted anyone to anything below 40 hours.”

That, of course, is because Regal was never before forced by law to shell out thousands of dollars for health insurance for its employees working over 30 hours per week. With the certainty of either unmanageable healthcare costs or stiff penalties hanging over its head, what else was the company to do?

“Mandating businesses to offer health care under threat of debilitating fines does not fix a problem, it creates one,” the theater manager told Fox News. “It fosters a new business culture where 30 hours is now considered the maximum in order to avoid paying the high costs associated with this law.”

Oh yes they did!  Except the theatre manager told Fox News.  He didn't tell MSNBC News or CNN.  He told Fox News.  Ahhh, I get it.  Bright fellow isn't he, this theater owner of one of Regal Entertainment's locations?

“In a time where 40 hours is just getting us by, putting these kind of financial pressures on employers is a big step in a direction far beyond the reach of feasibility for not only the businesses, but for the employees who rely on their success,” he added.

Regal employees aren’t the only ones upset with the company’s actions. MSN Money reports that “many people writing on Regal’s Facebook page vowed to stop attending films at its theaters,” pointing to the company’s $334 million in profits last year and its chief executive’s 31-percent raise as evidence that greed, not simply trying to stay in the black, motivated its work cuts.

“It is so sad to see companies work so hard to keep from treating their employees fairly,” one person wrote. “The greedy people at the top forget who makes them rich. Shame on you. I for one will find other movie houses to attend shows from now on.”

If Regal were the only company taking such a step, the notion that it was all about avarice might be somewhat plausible. But the theater giant is not alone. Several restaurant chains, as well as a few colleges, have announced plans to cut hours to avoid the employer mandate. “The state of Virginia also rolled back the hours of all part-time employees back to 29 per week in February, with officials from the state claiming that the new mandate would cost the state tens of millions of dollars a year,” writes Fox News. Dunkin’ Brands, which operates the Dunkin’ Donuts and Baskin-Robbins franchises, is trying to strike the problem at (or at least near) its root by lobbying Congress to change the healthcare law’s definition of “full-time” to include only those employees who work 40 or more hours. Still other employers are deliberately keeping their head counts below the magic number of 50.

“If you want to have reduced work, lower wages and economic stagnation, this [ObamaCare] is a great way to do it,” Ed Haislmaier, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, told Fox News.

Uh huh, sure.  But you get good healthcare in the end, right?  Is getting good healthcare really so BAD for these nitwits?  I mean heck, for a senior research fellow at the "conservative" Heritage Foundation of course he would believe economic stagnation could happen as a result of Obamacare.  Who knew?

In full disclosure, I can point out that as a former floor staff person at a San Francisco location at Landmark Theatres, the largest independent & foreign film chain in the U.S., I can point that my salary during those days (I left working for the movie theater in 2006) was better than minimum wage of course and even with SF Minimum Wage Laws (considered to be the most progressive in the U.S.), the corporate side of the theater chain has never permitted higher salaries than what was offered to the employees.  The deal is, any movie theater that shows newer films makes the cash for employees' salaries from concessions for the most part.  Therefore, employees have to continue to fight hard to serve customers so they can get paid.

However, Regal is being ridiculous and desperate.  Can't the movie theater chains think of more ways to not worry about attendance and figure out how they can get people to buy more tickets and items at the concession stand?  I mean, I can't stress how annoyed I get every time I'm having to buy the junk, overpriced crap at the concessions.

Instead of a hot dog, how about a sandwich?  Or chicken caesar salad?  Or vegetarian burgers?  Regal's got to think creatively.  They aren't the McDonalds of corporate movie theater chains, are they?

Well, thank goodness to the goodness of people outside of Regal Entertainment, the movie theater chain has been hit hard with complaints as a result of its Obamacare decision.

And the complaints were quite aplenty!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Some customers simply expressed frustation with the company's decision and vowed never to visit the movie theater again. Others highlighted the billions in profits the company enjoyed last year, as well as CEO Amy Miles' 31 percent pay bump.

"I will never view a film at a Regal facility again," Facebook user Chris Binnett wrote Wednesday afternoon. "Greed and selfishness make me sick."

The company did not respond to multiple requests for comment from The Huffington Post.

Binnett is just one of hundreds of customers boycotting the movie theater chain after the company wrote in a memo, obtained by Fox News, that workers' hours would be cut as a direct result of the new health care law. Workers who do not average 30 hours per week, like many Regal workers now under its new policy, are not legally entitled to health benefits from their employer.

Regal is not the first large U.S. employer to face public backlash after attempting to skirt Obamacare. Darden Restaurants, the parent company to Red Lobster, also faced scorn as a result of tests to use of more part-time workers to limit healthcare costs. The company ultimately backed away from the idea.

And this coming from Regal Entertainment's Facebook Page (sorry but I could not get the images to format here):

https://www.facebook.com/...

Christopher Galletta Stevens I am happy with Regal's decision to cut hours thanks to ObamaCare. Why? Not because people are losing work... no... not at all. Most informed voters knew this would happen, predicted it, warned people it would happen, and yet people still voted for the...See More
Like · Reply · 5 · Yesterday at 3:05pm

John Fink Regal's management team is excellent and as a shareholder I'm pleased at the rate of return, the stock price could be higher but its slowly getting back up to where it used to be. With that said I'm ashamed the management team used this opportunity to take a cheap shot at an administration and policy I fully support: instead of whining about it why not be innovative and figure out a way to offer low cost high quality health care the way an employer like Starbucks does. It'd certainly increase employee retention. If this was a business decision, then so be it - but to blame Obama is shameful and embarrassing - and to make this decision public. Remember - more than half the country voted for Obama, you're the #1 chain in the US - - I can't believe a top notch management team would alienate half their customer base instead of working towards a model solution.
Like · Reply · 3 · 20 hours ago

Les Zendle I will no longer be attending movies at Regal theaters until your policy of cutting hours to avoid offering health insurance to your employees is ended.
Like · Reply · 22 · Friday at 5:02pm

Elizabeth Margle Gregory Boo! what a horrible way to treat employees.
Like · Reply · 13 · Friday at 5:40pm

There are plenty more complaints on the Facebook page to see.

Anyway, the bottom line it seems is that no matter what the complaints about Obamacare are in the business industry, they're always coming from the corporate retail, food, entertainment or chains.  

But of COURSE they're complaining.

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  •  It's Corporate Civil Disobedience. (13+ / 0-)

    If you don't want corporations being activists, don't give them an excuse and the means to do it.

    This wouldn't happen with medicare for all.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:45:15 PM PDT

    •  Some people say (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      koseighty, auapplemac

      that this will create a demand for single payer. Others think this is going to create a backlash. I don't know, but I don't think the ACA can stay as it is now though.

      I'm afraid that my signature won't match the mood of my comment.

      by heybuddy on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:00:42 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  If a Dem wins the next presidential election... (4+ / 0-)

        ....it will be built on and improved; if a Repub wins, it will be partially reversed, maybe more.

        "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

        by Bush Bites on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:34:05 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I think if people (0+ / 0-)

          keep getting their hours cut, we may lose the senate in 2014. I hope they figure something out before then.

          I'm afraid that my signature won't match the mood of my comment.

          by heybuddy on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:44:26 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Takes more then a Pres. We had Congress and (0+ / 0-)

          Pres and got this mangled, confusing plan.

          Usually plans start out fairly simple and as the years go by, it becomes a Christmas tree of amendments. This one starts they way and can only go down hill from here.

          It's a confusing mess and I bet, even now most Americans still don't understand it. I wonder how many legislators completely understand it.

          It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

          by auapplemac on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 01:07:59 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  No Republican can win the WH now; (0+ / 0-)

          that race, instead, is for Dems to lose.  The spazzed-out rhetoric of the GOP demonstrates this fact: They are losing the war....

          Proponents of gun violence own guns. Opponents of gun violence do not own guns. What part of this do you not understand?

          by Liberal Panzer on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 08:30:48 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Medicare for All (12+ / 0-)

    This is exactly why we need Medicare for all.  

    Paid for by a payroll tax.  A tax paid by all employees, full- or part-time.

    You could even structure the tax to benefit employers that employ people full time.  i.e. the employer portion of the tax could be less for full-time employees than for part-time.  Thus encouraging full-time employment.

    As a bonus, because the employer would not be providing insurance to their employees, they couldn't balk at covering birth control, or blood transfusions, or whatever based on their religious sensitivities.

    •  The Clusterfuck Series (6+ / 0-)

      Children's Mental Health

      It's worth remembering that if single payer "Medicare for All" had been passed in 2010, every American, including this child, would have been covered for two years already. When LBJ set Medicare up in 1965, in the days before computers, it only took a year to implement. That's because single payer is simple. ObamaCare, by contrast, is incredibly complex. And the complexity comes directly from a single decision by Obama: To bail out the insurance companies and put them at the center of the system permanently. Remember, under The Sachs Conjecture, the top 1% are sociopaths: They care only about the rents that the health insurance industry brings in, and that profit comes from denying care, not providing it. They do not care about health care for you or your children or your family in the slightest degree. That's because they can buy whatever they want. ObamaCare, because these guys own Obama, was written to make them happy, not us, and it shows.
      Correntewire has a whole series on the ACA features.
      •  Hillary tried to override the insurance industry. (1+ / 0-)
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        auapplemac

        How did that work?

        "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

        by Bush Bites on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:35:23 PM PDT

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        •  I thought Hillary was another corporate Democrat (2+ / 0-)
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          splashoil, Jeremimi

          at least if you listen to certain Kossacks - they seem to pass over/ignore the fact that her biggest legislative struggle to date was an attempt to implement single-payer healthcare.

          Sure - it failed. But at least unlike Barack Obama - celebrated here and elsewhere until recently as the epitome of progressive Democrats - she tried.

          "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

          by Australian2 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 05:11:59 AM PDT

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        •  Jeffrey Sachs (0+ / 0-)

          Jeffrey Sachs:

          "I have waited for five years now to see one figure on Wall Street speak in a moral language... waited for a judge, for our president, for somebody, and it hasn’t happened." Jeffrey Sachs at Philly Fed
          There are some cracks in Obama's wall.  Bush Bites is still rock solid, even as most of the rest of us are queasy....

          How Insurance...Will Bend the Cost Curve:

          This case comes as health insurers, in a bid to hold down costs, are increasingly dropping doctors and hospitals and promoting smaller networks. Insurers typically try to negotiate lower rates with the fewer providers left in the network, who get higher patient volume in return.

          Nordella said many doctors are unwilling to challenge powerful insurance companies because their incomes are so dependent on being in these provider networks. "Physicians are so afraid to come forward," he said, "and I hope this changes that."

          I hope so too, and I'm sure some will. But I would bet ObamaCare triggers a great consolidation and rationalization of the networks. If the cost curve is going to be bent, yet health insurance companies are to maintain the same level of profits, then something's got to give, and it's going to be patient care. Sure, we could wait around for electronic medical records or those guys at Dartmouth to come up with something. Or, we could throw the doctors who want to give care out of the network. Which do you think is going to happen?

          Failure is Failure, just like Iraq and Afghanistan...
          •  The Sachs Conjecture (0+ / 0-)

            From the Clusterfuck Series:

            Single payer advocates have framed the case against our current mal-system** of health care for profit in terms of saving money and lives. They point to the vast overhead of administrative waste, CEO salaries, duplication of effort, and so forth, under single payer, would go toward care. And, noting that an insurance system based on profit has every incentive to deny care, they point to better health outcomes in every country to have instituted single payer systems.

            But the case for single payer didn't take, despite the many polls that show strong public support for a Medicare for All-like system. So, what if single payer advocates diagnosed the problem incorrectly? And what if a correct diagnosis would also accounts for their failure? It would be irresponsible not to speculate:

            Under The Sachs Conjecture, the elite moral environment is pathological. Under The Sachs Corollary, the elite have purchased the political class. How would that play out in the health insurance "industry," which is, after part of the FIRE sector?

            Well worth a close read....
  •  Medicare A (4+ / 0-)
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    leu2500, koseighty, kurt, PsychoSavannah

    A for all.

    this could've been so easy.... maybe it will be one day.

    excellent post. generous tip and enthusiastic rec.

    :)

    every adult is responsible for every child

    by ridemybike on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:58:23 PM PDT

  •  I'm going to direct a movie entitled (2+ / 0-)
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    Roger Fox, auapplemac

    "Corporations will Cut Hours If You Incentivize Them To Do So Via The Law"

    and its sequel

    "This Is Not Surprising In The Least"

    Both in IMAX/DolbyHD.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:25:41 PM PDT

  •  So far, I haven't seen any real job creators.... (4+ / 0-)
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    myboo, kurt, PsychoSavannah, FloridaSNMOM

    ...cutting back worker hours because of this.

    Just a few companies that have low-paying crap jobs.

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:39:50 PM PDT

    •  Wrong. Look at Academia! (0+ / 0-)

      Obamacare Clusterfuck:

      Under The Sachs Conjecture, that's happening because these chief executives are part of a "morally pathological" elite. Read on for a telling example:

      An alarming number of colleges ... are reducing "part-time" faculty members' assignments. Because faculty are not hourly workers, this is meant to guarantee that these professors will not be eligible for employer-provided healthcare. It will also reduce these professors' incomes just when they will be responsible for purchasing their own insurance under the new law. Only one institution in the country, Allegheny Community College, has declared its intention to raise adjunct wages while reducing workload in order to compensate for the lost income.

      I don't know what you would call what these adminstrators are doing but "morally pathological." Maybe "just business"?

      It's not just cinema and pizza.  This is a prominent feature of Obamacare, with millions thrown under the bus.
      •  The "Max Tax" (0+ / 0-)

        Walmart takes Advantage...

        In other words, the one way–just about the only way–a large employer can dodge responsibility for paying something for its employees is if its employees happen to qualify for Medicaid. Under MaxTax, Medicaid eligibility will be determined by one thing: whether a person makes less than 133% of the poverty rate. And who has the most control over how much a particular person makes? Their employer!

        So if Wal-Mart wanted to avoid paying anything for its employees under MaxTax, it could simply make sure that none of them made more than $14,403 a year (they’d have to do this by ensuring their employees worked fewer than 40 hours a week, since this works out to be slightly less than minimum wage). Or, a single mom with two kids could make $24,352–a whopping $11.71 an hour, working full time. That’s more than the average Wal-Mart employee made last year. So long as Wal-Mart made sure its employees applied for Medicaid (something it already does in states where its employees are eligible), it would pay nothing. Nada, zip. Nothing.

        This is a feature, not a bug in the ACA.
        •  Update: A Rat Leaves the Sinking Ship (0+ / 0-)

          Obama's Tribute to Max!

          Actually, not a sinking ship, but a "train wreck." I mean, ObamaCare was a legislative triumph for Senator Max Baucus, so you'd think he'd wish to stick around to bask in the applause after ObamaCare's triumphant roll-out.* Here, in its entirety, is The Obama's statement on Baucus's resignation:

          I want to thank Max Baucus for his nearly 35 years of service to the people of Montana. Max has made small businesses a top priority, often taking “Work Days” to visit local businesses across Montana and spend a day working alongside his constituents to gain perspective and help bolster the local economy. As Finance Committee Chairman and a senior member of both the Agriculture and the Environment and Public Works Committees, Max has been a leader on a broad range of issues that touch the lives of Americans across the country. Michelle and I commend Senator Baucus on his career, and wish him and his family well in the future.

          Notice anything missing?

          That's right. There's no mention of the "Affordable" "Care" act. Even Obama knows ObamaCare is, well, a "train wreck" so he's already backing away from it. Pass the popcorn, unless your sick and need care, of course.

          NOTE * For those who came in late, the Affordable Care Act was crafted by Liz Fowler, a WellPoint VP on secondment to Baucus's office as chief of staff.

          0

          What irony that Max does not get a big hi-five from POTUS for his featured contribution!
  •  So why aren't other theater chains doing it? (3+ / 0-)
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    kurt, FloridaSNMOM, efrenzy

    That's what I'd ask them.  Sure, Regal is the biggest, but AMC and Cinemark aren't far behind in amount of theaters.  The reason Regal is doing this is because they know they can get away with it.  They also have the highest ticket prices and (in my opinion) worst theaters of the three big chains.  

    If people really want to support film and workers, go to either a smaller chain or a good downtown theater (those are hard to find now, however).  

  •  I moon at Regal Entertainment's (6+ / 0-)

    Corporate Office because I cannot fart in their general direction! The wind is in the wrong quarter for that.

    Maybe Obamacare will have the side effect of putting the bottom feeders out of business. I for one would not be sad to see more local restaurants replacing chains, and a few independent movie houses within easy driving distance.

    Since I moved here fifteen years ago we've lost two Greek restaurants, one high end, one low end, both excellent quality, a Thai buffet, and a Vietnamese restaurant. We've gained a Chop-Stix and an In-and-Out Burger. The Olive Garden is still plugging away, along with a Papa John's franchise (no idea how they stay in business: everybody else in town makes better pizza, even the Chinese restaurants).

    "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

    by Orinoco on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:55:19 PM PDT

  •  I will happily boycott this ... (3+ / 0-)
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    PsychoSavannah, FloridaSNMOM, efrenzy

    ... theater chain. There are alternatives in my town. The only two companies on your list that I used more than once were Wendy's and Olive Garden. About four or five of the Wendy's in my area closed down starting about ten years ago. It was like they were catching something contagious. (I think it was bad management.)

    Olive Garden used to be a favorite with the salad and breadsticks, but I started noticing them skimping on the salad dressing, then they started skimping on the garlic on the breadsticks and then the breadsticks themselves. You had to take hostages to get more breadsticks.

    They have chosen to provide sucky goods or services, and have chosen to go cheap, and their political decisons on top of that make it easy for me to avoid them altogether.  

    I would tip you, but the man took away my tips.

    by Tortmaster on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 08:30:23 PM PDT

  •  As I have said before (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    auapplemac

    It's called common sense. Cut your expenses if you can avoid a loss. Gee, who could have predicted this?

  •  Regal has decided to cut work hours because (4+ / 0-)

    they don't want to pay for healthcare, [period]. Thanks for the heads up. [Rec]

  •  So, another corporation letting us know (3+ / 0-)
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    PsychoSavannah, FloridaSNMOM, efrenzy

    Their employees are likely to be sick and passing diseases to the rest of us, because they can't get decent health care.

    Not smart, not smart at all.

    Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

    by splashy on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 02:31:20 AM PDT

  •  With computers and stuff like that they (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Tom Anderson

    have these days, how difficult would it have been to simply pro-rate the penalty based on the percentage of full-timeness that an employee works instead of this:

    employers with 50 or more full-time employees — defined as those working more than 30 hours per week — are required to offer “affordable” health insurance to all those employees or pay a $2,000 penalty for each one who instead obtains subsidized insurance on an exchange.
    e.g., if somebody works 25 hours, that is 25/40 or 62.5% of full time, so they'd have pay $1,250 penalty.

    or if they're cut back to 10 hours, the penalty would be $500

    And so on (hey, I did those calculations w/o using the calculator function on my computer - just saying - it ain't rocket science!).

    That would have prevented this type of thing - seems like a no-brainer, really.  

    Bottom line, whoever wrote this legislation was either a complete dumbass or deliberately setting it up for failure.

    •  The second - it was written by the (1+ / 0-)
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      Roadbed Guy

      same guy who wrote Romneycare, in an effort to engage the magic bipartisanship ponies (in theory) or to screw over the population by feeding the health-insurance rentier corporations (in reality).

      I kid you not - Obama personally asked in the same guy to write the Affordable Care Act. And people say he's a "progressive".......yeah, right.

      "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

      by Australian2 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 05:31:12 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Thanks for the response, although (0+ / 0-)

        that question was somewhat rhetorical . . .

        In any event, David Frum seems to agree with you:

        A quarter century ago, Ronald Reagan and Walter Mondale offered Americans substantial policy alternatives. In 2010, by contrast, we see the parties hammering each other over differences barely more perceptible than those of 1880. Republicans rage against the Democrats’ bailouts, takeovers, deficits—yet all three commenced under George W. Bush, not Barack Obama. Almost every concept in Obama’s intensely controversial health plan has at one point or another been advanced by a senior Republican, from Bob Dole to Mitt Romney. I type these words having just watched Fox News’s Glenn Beck liken President Obama’s call for voluntary national service to something out of Maoist China. Obama’s service program barely differs in form, content, and rhetoric from Bush’s program, which in turn was almost identical to the program created by the elder President Bush in 1989.
        link

        You'd think that you vote for a Democrat, you'd get Democratic and not Republican ideas championed by the Democrat you voted for .. . . . or else, really what's the point?

    •  carry it a bit further... (0+ / 0-)

      35 Hours or more. ->  100%  of rate.
      20 Hours to 35.     ->  60%    of rate
      10 - 20 Hours.       ->  33%    of Rate
      Under 10 Hours.     ->  4% of rate per hour worked.

      Let us incentive full employment!

  •  It is all about greed and greed. (3+ / 0-)
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    PsychoSavannah, FloridaSNMOM, efrenzy

    I have been in the process of shopping for a healthcare plan for my company. We are a small company less than 50 employees but still feel compelled to wade into the healthcare benefit pool to see how it all comes out.

    First of all depending on the state's law it does not have to be all or nothing. NM requires that the employer pay at least 50% of the premium for a group plan. So far that has equated to about $30k for my company if all employees opt to take the insurance. That is being optimistic as at least 50% of our employees would not sign up as they have coverage through IHS.

    2nd is that it helps with our tax bill at the end of the year. As a small company we are a Sub S Corporation. All of the net profit is transferred to the owner as business income and taxed at an individual rate. Last year the tax bill was in the $50k range. Now if you were to add in $30k more in expenses for health insurance then our tax bill would have been reduced. So the picture I get is the choice is transfer the money to the IRS or establish another benefit for the employees. To me that is a no brainer.

    So the real dispute to me is ideology and the fact that some businesses just plain don't want to provide benefits to the employees that work in the trenches just the privileged management. Another class barrier.

  •  Just pass the word that no one at a Regal (1+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM

    theater gets healthcare and they are all sick.....that should cut down on the patrons.

    I'm at a point now where I don't give a shit if it's 100% true or not.  

    As for all the chains.....I'm so glad we do not use any of them.  Olive Garden once in a blue moon for a work function, but the rest?  Fuck no.

    Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

    by PsychoSavannah on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 05:58:04 AM PDT

  •  Do I really need to see a "first-run" movie? (0+ / 0-)

    I can spend my dollars on a local "second-run house" and see the exact same film for what --- a third of the price?  Regal is a profit-mongering dinosaur; no less worthy of extinction than it's offal-peddling pals over at Papa John's, Applebee's, and Olive Garden....

    Proponents of gun violence own guns. Opponents of gun violence do not own guns. What part of this do you not understand?

    by Liberal Panzer on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 08:28:07 AM PDT

  •  So, only *now,* we're experiencing: (0+ / 0-)
    reduced work, lower wages and economic stagnation,
    in 2013, as opposed to the last 30 years?

    I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

    by CFAmick on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 09:12:05 AM PDT

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