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Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., asked Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano how the government can measure security on the border.
Mr. Flake lives up to his name
A quick refresher on the saga of Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake: Despite telling the mother of an Aurora shooting victim that he supported expanded background checks, he voted against them in the Senate. When his poll numbers fell, he attacked the accuracy of Public Policy Polling, the firm that conducted the survey—even though in 2012 they accurately showed he was the leading candidate for U.S. Senate. Then he admitted that the poll was accurate and that he wasn't pleased with becoming the least popular senator in America. And now he's come full circle, accusing PPP of structuring the survey to make him look bad:
"There was a famous PPP poll just a couple of days ago that -- the five Republicans who voted against this, you know, supposedly our poll number have dropped dramatically," Flake said on KJZZ radio in Arizona. "And I've no doubt they have because of the way the poll is structured."

Flake explained: "It said, I believe, 'Do you believe that Jeff Flake voted against background checks?' Now somebody who got that poll could just as easily assume that I voted to repeal current background checks. And so background checks are popular, but I believe that people recognize that universal background checks, that's a little more difficult thing to define."

Flake couldn't be more wrong. The poll wasn't of five Republicans—it also included a Democrat—and Flake has the question wrong. The question was this:
Does Jeff Flake's vote against requiring background checks make you more or less likely to support him for re-election, or does it not make a difference?
The answer was this:
More likely: 19%
Less likely: 52%
No difference/unsure: 28%
The reality is that poll after poll after poll after poll after poll has shown voters of every partisan and ideological stripe believe expanding background checks was a good idea. Towing the NRA line was a big mistake, but refusing to admit that obvious fact will ultimately be Flake's biggest miscalculation.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:30 AM PDT.

Also republished by Repeal or Amend the Second Amendment (RASA) and Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  OT: Obama continues Bush Torture Policy (0+ / 0-)

    Open for Torture:

    That is, the 7th Circuit opinion holds that Rummy specifically, and anyone who comes after him, is immune from suit for violating someone’s constitutional rights, up to and including illegal detention and torture. As Steve Vladeck and James Pfander said in an amicus brief on this case to SCOTUS,

    The Seventh Circuit’s decision in this case contravenes nearly 300 years of established tradition, this Court’s well-settled precedents, and the United States’ international obligations under the CAT. Operating under the assumption that it was being asked to “create” a new cause of action, the en banc majority took the unprecedented step of conferring, in effect, absolute immunity from liability on U.S. officials who torture citizens abroad.

    The opinion is bad enough. Now add in Bradbury’s still extant memo, which permits DOD to stick whatever torture techniques they want in Appendix M and have his sanction for it. The two together allow the government to continue to engage in torture with, as Vladeck puts it, absolute immunity, so long as it happens overseas.

    Yes, OT, but the implications are grave.
  •  Sen. Flake is getting ... tetchy! (5+ / 0-)

    Deservedly so, for a guy who told Gabby Giffords in the corridor after his first votes on S.649, that he was "Sorry."

    Yep, yours' was a sorry vote, Senator Flake. And you think PPP polling is the problem?

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:38:51 AM PDT

  •  Just hope those large percentages don't come to (3+ / 0-)
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    hawkseye, hnichols, a2nite

    see what I have. Gun owners have no intention of controlling their guns. It is too hard. It is way too hard to do a 5 minute background check. It is impossible to do anything else that requires more time and attention.

    I am glad hairstylists feel it is OK to have education before taking a scissors to people's hair. Gun toters I am sure couldn't pass a scissors test let alone gun toting test.

    Gun owners are responsible till the oopsie silly me kicks in then I will gladly rescue them from their dilemma. Carving tomb stones, furnishing rehab and prosthetic limbs, lost income subsidy. All that silly stuff that actual responsible people do.

    guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

    by 88kathy on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:39:03 AM PDT

  •  Flake's sure to win re-election with these numbers (1+ / 0-)
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    hnichols
    More likely: 19%
    Less likely: 52%
    No difference/unsure: 28%

    ''A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward.'' FDR

    by lostinamerica on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:39:34 AM PDT

  •  How unfortunate a name for a politician. (3+ / 0-)
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    crystal eyes, hnichols, Hohenzollern
  •  This is a job for Poll Skewed Man! Or at least (2+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, Matt Z

    Karl Rove. Anyway, Rush will explain how flawed those "Democrat " and PPP polls are:

    "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

    by TofG on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:46:38 AM PDT

  •  Don't be the next politician to... (2+ / 0-)
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    TRPChicago, hnichols

    ...make the Flake mistake.
    A comprehensive background check on arms sales is a safety issue.

    And they scream... The worst things in life come free to us... Cause we're just under the upper hand... And go mad for a couple grams.

    by glb3 on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:48:43 AM PDT

  •  Unfortunately the difference between the (1+ / 0-)
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    scyellowdogdem

    poll question

    requiring background checks
    and
    expanding background checks
    would make a difference to me.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for expanding background checks and if words have meanings there is a slight difference in the separate phrases.

    Fuck me! He made it. Will Scarlet

    by dagolfnut on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:49:31 AM PDT

    •  It is true. There is a difference. (0+ / 0-)

      That said, it doesn't sound like the difference between "requiring" and "expanding" is important to you as a voter.

      It would be fascinating to see if poll results for "expanding" would be more than the statistical-margin-of-error different than for "requiring". What Flake is saying - whether he realizes it or not - is that the [partial] background checks today, in his view, are sufficient. I'd like to watch a constituent take him on, on that one!

      Given Senator The Flake's forgetfulness conscious ignorance disregard for the accurate PPP polling on his re-election chances, he's no one to argue parsing. And I doubt he would show up well during reasonable dialog on his gun votes at town meetings.

      2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

      by TRPChicago on Thu May 02, 2013 at 12:33:47 PM PDT

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  •  Never has a senator... (2+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, Hohenzollern

    ...been more aptly named.

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

    by itsjim on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:51:59 AM PDT

  •  He May Be A Flake, But At Least He's Not Jon Kyl (1+ / 0-)
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    hnichols

    Everyone is crying out for peace; no one's crying out for justice...

    by mojave mike on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:53:15 AM PDT

  •  Background checks are common sense (1+ / 0-)
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    hnichols

    Background checks for gun buyers shouldn't even need to be debated. It's basic logic and common sense. It's amazing that we have to engage in such hand-wringing and excruciating bargaining overt even the smallest and most rational common sense steps to combat gun violence like universal background checks. Apparently the NRA endorses the idea of terrorists or other foreign agents intent on doing harm to America being able to purchase military-style weapons, because that's the result of their repetitive righteousness and lobbying against these basic checks. This is about protecting innocent Americans and doing what most sane folks would consider a no-brainer. -  progressive

  •  Wow...this kind of looniness is so unexpected (1+ / 0-)
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    hnichols

    from Arizona republicans.  

  •  Should be: "toeing" the line. (1+ / 0-)
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    hnichols

    Great diary!

    "For we, the people, understand that our country cannot succeed when a shrinking few do very well and a growing many barely make it." - President Barack Obama, Second Inaugural Address, January 21, 2013.

    by surfermom on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:57:03 AM PDT

  •  There's no room for facts in the R bubble world. (2+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, a2nite

    Clearly. Lying isn't lying. The sky isn't blue. Cheating on your wife or constituents is an act of God if an R does it, and impeachable if a D so much as thinks it.

    It's gotta be a confusing world for someone with a hint of conscience. Ergo, not so much for the Flakes of the world.

    I think that Republicanism is revealing itself as a personality disorder, not so much an ideology." -- Naomi Klein

    by AllanTBG on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:57:15 AM PDT

  •  The trajedy is (1+ / 0-)
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    hnichols

    he perfect sense to many of his voters.  Let's hope there's not enough of them.

    God be with you, Occupiers. God IS with you.

    by Hohenzollern on Thu May 02, 2013 at 12:29:01 PM PDT

  •  It's a dreamy world inside the Beltway. (0+ / 0-)

    The only thing important is getting reelected.  The only thing that matters is the war chest.  The only thing of value is the appearance of caring for the country.

    "Please don't dominate the rap Jack, if you got nothing new to say." - Robert Hunter

    by WSComn on Thu May 02, 2013 at 12:31:15 PM PDT

  •  ...and this is ARIZONA. (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite

    Let that sink in.

    This is ARIZONA saying "dude. really. mor gun SAFETY pleez."

  •  Once again . . . (0+ / 0-)

    . . . the tell is in a Gooper's name.

  •  Silly person, Flake favors ONE background check - (0+ / 0-)

    of Obama's birthplace - and that means he really supports 'background checks'!  

    So take that commie, pinko PPP!

  •  Special distinction to be awarded to Flake (0+ / 0-)

    The first annual "Profile in Cowardice" award.

    Let us pause now for a moment of SCIENCE

    by labman57 on Thu May 02, 2013 at 06:08:29 PM PDT

    •  Oh please couldn't we have a contest? There's so (0+ / 0-)

      many GOP candidates who will be vying to out-Flake Flake now that he's staked out his positions like that.

      When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

      by antirove on Thu May 02, 2013 at 06:52:18 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

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