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All over the media the news is all about a young person righteously ranting for a "better teacher".  The people in the comments fall over themselves condemning the teacher and praising the the student for telling her whats what.
Boy, don't we all wish we were him telling the teacher off.  I mean the kid is so smart he just rolls good teaching practices off his tongue.

"No packets!!!! We kid's don't learn that way!"

Except, for the fact that pubic schools have been the red headed step child for sometime.  And!!!!! nobody asks if the reason for "packets" is that there are not enough textbooks or if the packets are part of the required activity sheets that go with the textbooks chosen by the school board.

18 year old adult male gets to stomp out of a room and carry on loudly, post it on the internet and he is a golden child.
Unseen teacher calmly ask the young person to leave the room and she is slammed for being uninvolved and "lazy".
I know nothing about the teacher except that I was one myself and know how difficult a job it is and how very unappreciated it is.

I always say, in our life history as a child we did something wrong and were punished by a teacher, strike one and then maybe once in error, we were blamed by a teacher for doing something we didn't do, strike two, and finally after many many teachers from kinder to high school we ran into at least one that we really disliked, strike three.  Then there was the one that didn't come running when we raised our hand. Then there was the one who ignored our raised hand.  Then there was one who wore the same clothes every other day. The one that smiled at boy and not girls and then the one that smile at girls and not boys.  The unmarried one, the cute one, the one who is worried about her sick baby while she is at school.  

The one(me) who was worried about the older sister of the kid I kicked out yesterday waiting by my car today.

Teachers are vilified by their children to their parents as a defence for when the report card come out.  Parents blaming the teacher for their child's poor marks when their own parent involvement is totally absent.

What a hard lot to be a teacher.
I wish the teacher in this story well.  She has been unfairly maligned.
We don't know anything about what she did or didn't do. Now this dude is a youth pundit on education.

Ha! The truth will out!
http://www.dallasnews.com/...

Anyone who know me knows I am about hands on instruction.  No Child Left Behind requires kids to sit and fill out circles on pages in  "packets".   Yeah, I believe people should should be very active and engaged in teaching, but also the student has to be involved.  Maybe this guy didn't want to do the assignment and wanted to be entertained? He seemed very loquacious so he liked to talk himself.

Teaching is not only being in front of the class yakking.  Sometimes learning is the student writing and thinking for themselves, something that is not asked of them at any other time of the day.

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  •  Among the more enlightened (4+ / 0-)
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    Focusmarker, 88kathy, Nance, Victor Ward

    I believe the student rant was seen as condemning the system rather than that specific teacher.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Sat May 11, 2013 at 07:42:44 PM PDT

  •  Everyone went to school, so everyone knows how (10+ / 0-)

    to teach.

    Plus, I teach 6 classes a day, and I have bad days and bad periods. I have yelled at kids unfairly, and I have apologized when I could.

    Kids can push buttons and will be given a shorter leash because of something that happened before. the youtube video has no context. Who knows what happened before it turns on.

    If teaching was easy, 50% of those who start wouldn't quit by their 5th year.

    On the other hand, as I finish my 31st year as a teacher, I still love what I do. Friday, students had to present a paper in class. The first person who spoke shocked me and the class. He was incredibly good, and the written script was amazing. I haven't been impressed with this class, but they all shocked me. It was great. I told them how proud I was of all of them The greatest thing was that they were all so impressed with their classmates.

    We use a lot of peer editing and questioning, so students are use to reading and hearing each others writing. What happened surprised us all. Those days make up for a lot of bad ones.

    Kids are great. The adults have to remember that.

  •  Thing is not all teachers are good... (2+ / 0-)
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    I had a history teacher in 10th grade that was also the football coach. He controlled his class and you didn't mess around, but he also had outfits for all sort of famous characters he would wear when discussing them. He controlled, taught and entertained his classes. Thats a good teacher.

    I remember my freshman year of college taking some history course and he literally read from notes on aged yellow paper as if he had been reading them same notes for 20 years (And he probably had). It was a class you would get a better grade ditching but studying than going to class and trying to pay attention. He was a bad teacher or at least had become one.

    Just saying...

    The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function [Albert A. Bartlett]

    by fToRrEeEsSt on Sat May 11, 2013 at 09:35:49 PM PDT

  •  You really can't teach anyone anything. (3+ / 0-)
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    The person has to learn. If the guy was so in love with learning things, he should have read the packet and then gone home and looked up information on the internet or - shocking as it may seem- read a book or two.
       But a teacher can post videos, show power points, have gab sessions, whatever, and students will not learn unless they themselves get invoved.

  •  Well.... (1+ / 0-)
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    They'll all selfless public servants only there for the kids.

    Until one of them gets diaried for dumping on some Autistic or Gay kid.

    Or inflicting Creationism or Jesus on their captive audience in their classroom.

    Meanwhile, I gave the Nieces a Mac Mini and a couple of cameras because I've had my creativity (once of Chinon 506SMXL proportions) dumped on by my teachers....

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Sun May 12, 2013 at 05:21:23 AM PDT

  •  All bus drivers aren't the best. Bus driving is a (4+ / 0-)

    difficult job for some. It involves dealing with the traveling public.

    Some bus drivers really care. They will wait for people who are going their top speed, that speed might not be very fast, but the bus driver judges it to be their personal best, so he holds the bus. (that is a quote)

    Some bus drivers really care if their passengers get to their destinations. Some are glad the fares got off their bus and were still in one piece.

    Some bus drivers just want to run their route in peace and not talk to people others want to hear your life story.

    All teachers have their levels. Some can teach 1 or 2 kids and do a good job, others can teach 100's without breaking a sweat.

    Not all teachers or curriculum(s) are even close to perfect. So.

    Validate my parking Validate my parenting Validate my politics Validate my religion And I will be happy.

    by 88kathy on Sun May 12, 2013 at 05:38:12 AM PDT

  •  What truth? (2+ / 0-)
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    That another adult agreed with you?

    Here's how the article you linked ends -

    "Funny, the poor quality of instruction in public schools happens to be one of the top issues this editorial board is grappling with today, along with the Dallas ISD school board and pretty much every other influential individual in the Dallas area. Jeff Bliss is, no doubt, aware that something is wrong. As I think he was saying, teaching by “packet” is no way to get through to young minds. Yes, you do have to make students excited about coming to class. You do have to touch the student’s frickin’ heart.

    "But his choice of protest venues and methods is one I will never celebrate. He owes everyone involved an apology. And if he ever makes it onto the Today show, that might be an excellent venue to do it."

    All you agree with is the kid had poor grammar and long hair. As for the actual content of his complaint -- teaching by packet and whatever other standardization and testing crapola he and his fellow students have endured for years -- sucks.

    He lashes out at his teacher because she's the authority figure standing in front of him. She needs to take the content of his complaint up the chain of command. Or get used to students and parents being unhappy with her and with the system.

    You want to make a presentation in front of the school board or write a letter to the editor? Go ahead. Others, including this student, will speak out in their own way, showing respect for teachers and the system when it is earned.

    •  Sorry, a student getting up and ranting (0+ / 0-)

      happens day in and day out.  There are always students who would rather have a circus going on then doing their classwork

      teaching by “packet” is no way to get through to young minds.
      .

      The student was 18 years old in a class for students who are 16.   He was a problem student already, dropped out in his freshman year. Why is he 18 in sophomore English class?

      "showing respect when earned"??????

      No sorry, respect comes on day one when the student sits in the classroom.
      I respect people first.  
      When one person had 30 young people sitting in a classroom the respect needs to be there first.
      The young man disrespected his teacher, his classmate, and his parents.
      Just because his rant sounds resonates with something in your experience doesn't mean the teacher did anything wrong what so ever.

      A policemen doesn't earn you respect first, you give it. A doctor doesn't earn your respect first, you give it.

      •  You are a teacher (1+ / 0-)
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        and none of this is ringing a bell?

        How many students fail and repeat grades because of the standardization and testing garbage that has infected the public school system?

        We don't know the personal history of this young man but if he has the gumption to stick it out when he could, legally, walk away, why aren't we listening to him? Why not make an effort to see if what he is saying has any merit?

        If his grammar offends you, his hair is too long and he isn't toeing the line, respecting the authority figure in his class, as much as you might like, why aren't you pondering why all of those things are happening instead of sniping at him?

        He's protesting a system that the teacher is in charge of enforcing. A system that is failing him and many other students.  The teacher may well be as unhappy with the system as this student is fed up. I would hope so.

        I respect teachers and doctors and policemen when they do the right thing. That respect is not earned by just showing up.

        Reaching out to this student and all the other students he represents would be a more productive and professional use any teacher's time than brushing him off as a rabble-rouser.

      •  Sounds like this teacher had lost his respect (0+ / 0-)

        Whether she had it initially isn't relevant anymore.

        While the packet-teach method is part of the high-stakes testing bind teachers have been  forced into, that's not the whole story.  It does in fact make it easier for teachers because it is so pre-programmed.  Sadly, a lot of teachers' own initiative, planning, and and creativity are no longer needed.  And some teachers, like the one in that class, I suspect, are happy to just drift along for the ride and pick up their checks every two weeks.  Not so different from a subset of employees will try to do in any job if they can get away with it.  But because they are teachers, not clerks at the power company or soft drink delivery drivers, the consequences are much more important.  From what little I can observe from the video, I would not be surprised if that teacher is lazy and uncaring.  Better a five minute student rant than five more years of hundreds of students being numbed into stupidity.

  •  This is disturbing as it (2+ / 0-)
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    is how the purge began under Chairman Mao's 'Cultural Revolution'.

  •  I'm a substitute teacher. (1+ / 0-)
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    I limit myself to certain schools in my district; for example, I won't go to the mainstream high school but love being at the alternative campus-- the one with the on-site daycare.  There, nearly everything is in packets. The kids have different levels of involvement. Some hustle and get their work done so that they can get it over with and move to the next phase of their lives. Others are there because they're forced to be somewhere and do not engage in anything other than social drama.  

    My favorite thing to do is to have discussions on topics of real concern, such as the School-to-Prison Pipeline and how it is working (or not) on each of them, or politics, or even religion. One day a young man stood up and explained why he believes in the Church of Satan and how he got to that point. At the end of the class period I thanked him for his honesty and the rest of the class for their tolerance. This is Texas, and it was quite unexpected. While this was going on, many students worked on packets or the equivalent on their netbooks, and that was great.  Kids know I'll allow them to talk about whatever is going on, as long as it's somewhat on topic to the subject at hand; the history of rap music fell within the parameters of an English class, for example.

    Railing against the assigned curriculum did not change the established role of the teacher there as a babysitter. Expecting everyone to do the work is how education has always been done, in my lifetime at least.  

    Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given. (Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman)

    by marykmusic on Sun May 12, 2013 at 10:56:07 AM PDT

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