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It all started when I saw an installment of “Vice” on HBO titled “Toxic Iraq” about birth defects in southern Iraq. Vice interviewed Representative Jim McDermott of the 7th congressional district out of Seattle about his efforts to shed light on a rise in both cancer and birth defect rates in southern Iraq after the most recent war there. By the way, Jim McDermott is a physician and according to him a scientist who during the Vietnam war witnessed Pentagon denials about the now well known adverse health effects and birth defects associated with Agent Orange.

Rep McDermott said that he went to the CDC to try to get them to at least gather more information about depleted uranium, and he got Defense authorization Bill HR5122 passed that was supposed to authorize a study(SEC. 716 Study of health Effects of Exposure to Depleted Uranium) that was to be completed in a year. The result was a two page report that said this,”there is inadequate/insufficient evidence to determine whether an association exists between exposure to Uranium and depleted uranium and any adverse health outcome.”

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Bullshit!

First of all, we have known for over a century that uranium and many of the decay products of uranium are extremely dangerous in quantity. Notwithstanding the long half life of DU(uranium 238), you will recognize Polonium a daughter isotope of uranium used to poison Alexander Litvinenko [image(may he rest in peace)] a Russian defector who was a journalist critical of Vladimir Putin back in 2006. And, let’s not forget Radon gas a common decay product of Uranium that has caused lung cancer in pets and basement dwellers around the world since the beginning of time. The Uranium decay chain takes many steps until a stable daughter isotope is found. That means that if Uranium is in your body, your insides are blasted with alpha particles, beta particles, and gamma rays many different times until the final stable daughter isotope is found. But that’s not all. Heavy metals in this particular location of the periodic table may have a tendency to also be highly chemically mutagenic. That means that their chemical properties may cause birth defects and cancer.

Okay, I’m personally going on a limb here by stating, without formal proof, my theory that you can readily equate the toxicity and mutagenicity of Hexa-Valent Chromium to the Hexa-Valent chemical species of Uranium. Granted, Uranium is part of the Actinide series of elements. Which, means that instead of having four D orbital electrons in its valence shell  it has four F orbital electrons. Note here that D orbitals and F orbitals (can) have a very similar shape and relative position about the atomic nucleus. ( In this particular case, considering that both elements are only four electrons above the last filled S-orbital, and recognizing the consequences of the much larger atomic mass and diameter of Uranium. ) And, if we were to treat Uranium as a typical transition metal a little higher in the Periodic Table, it would be in the same column as Chromium. [Text slide: elements are organized by similar chemical behavior in columns] Without disputing the substance of these superficial observations, however, it seems to me that heavy elements like Uranium have so many different ionization states and so many different possible intermediate chemical species that it is impossible for anyone to predict a particular biochemical reaction, benign or otherwise.

Now to be fair, U238 is considered weakly radioactive. On the other hand Reactor fuel (u235) is radioactive enough to cause a chain reaction. This is an important distinction because U235 with a half life of less than a quarter of u238 does not have to be ingested to be deadly to human habitation where as U238 must be physically consumed to be harmful. Ninety nine percent of naturally occurring Uranium is U238 and it is very common in the soil, air, and water all over the world. It is common enough that all of us have some amount of uranium in our bodies at all times. Exposure only becomes a readily observable problem when larger than normal mounts are ingested.

The vectors for possible ingestion of DU are where most of the blurriness in the narrative exists. The arguments over routes of ingestion center on things like the solubilitys of different oxidation states of uranium and how long the metal stays in the body after it is ingested. The Urinous or plus 4 state is insoluble and thought to pass through the intestines without largely entering the blood stream but may lodge in the lungs and potentially stay there for years before finally being absorbed. The urnalyl or plus 2 state is considered soluble but in many cases we are lead to believe that it passes through the kidneys and out of the body fairly rapidly. Though chemically damaging to internal organs, it is believed that half of the uranium ingested passes from the body within about 15 days.

Several government agency documents have discussed the fact that Uranium is pyrophoric which means that it spontaneously bursts into flame when exposed to oxygen and water. This is one of the reasons it makes such a nasty weapon. When a DU round hits its target the impact force atomizes the uranium and it spontaneously bursts into flame sucking all of the air out of the space that it hits and suffocating its victims as it burns them up. I was fascinated to learn that a metal like uranium actually burns in air. But, when I saw the statement in one of these government reports that uranium oxide was the main reaction product you get when you burn it, I became somewhat skeptical. My experience with chemistry in college told me that something might be wrong.

One of the unfortunate facts of life that most mechanical engineers become intimately familiar with is that of incomplete burning in internal combustion engines. Almost eighty percent of air is nitrogen and when you burn anything in air you almost always get nitrogen oxides from incomplete burning. This fact lead me to wonder what the nitrates of uranium are like. So I looked it up.

Prior to the use of Silver Halides, Uranyl N itrate was originally used as a photosensitive salt in photographic processes in the 1800′s. It is also used as “a negative stain for viruses in electron microscopy; in tissue samples it stabilizes nucleic acids and cell membranes.”(Wikipedia) Let me say that again. “in tissue samples it stabilizes nucleic acids and cell membranes.” Can we infer from the word “stabilize” that this uranium salt stays there for a while.
But, here is the clincher:

-I hope you will forgive me for quoting right from Wikipedia but this is what it says. Quote.-

“Uranyl nitrate is an oxidizing and highly toxic compound and should not be ingested; it causes severe renal insufficiency and acute tubular necrosis and is a lymphocyte mitogen. Target organs include the kidneys, liver, lungs and brain.”(Wikipedia)

[text slide: Though considered pedestrian by some, I reference Wikipedia out of appreciation for its utility.]

To be fair once again, Uranyl nitrate is not a stable compound. It “represents a severe fire and explosion risk when heated or subjected to shock in contact with oxidizable substances.”(wiki) Not only that, but exposure to ultra violet radiation causes it to reduce to the insoluble Uranium (IV) oxidation state. This means that in the sunlight uranyl nitrate will probably degrade rapidly. Incomplete burning however is, to me, still an open question.

The thing about incomplete burning and uranyl nitrate as a vector for human internal contamination is that we would expect more aircraft weapons specialists, and tank gunners to have symptoms of exposure. This is because Depleted uranium munitions are propelled by burning gunpowder or essentially burning nitrates. When you look at a cross-section of a Penetrator tank round it looks like the spear-like-bullet is literally encased in gun powder. One might expect that the explosive heat and force of that gunpowder pushing the round out of the barrel would erode and burn at least some of the DU in that environment. If so this might leave a uranium residue on the shell casings, the cannons themselves, or the enclosed pods of an aircraft that house rotary guns. And, what about the people handling the spent shell casings? Is there any uranium residue left over in the empty shells?

This brings to mind all of the claims that Gulf War Syndrome was caused by depleted uranium. And, originally this installment was going to have a treatment on Gulf War Syndrome, however, there is too much information(to fit gainfully in this piece) and not enough conclusive data to make a direct correlation between Gulf War Syndrome and Depleted Uranium. In order to do the subject justice, I would have to write a book. Short of that, you can see my findings on Gulf War Syndrome in my next installment.

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As far as depleted uranium exposure causing birth defects in southern Iraq is concerned the question of how the people were exposed comes to mind. Most people think of the conventional war that was fought there and all of the destroyed military vehicles left behind. The theory is that people who scavenge scrap became contaminated by harvesting metal from these vast vehicle bone yards.

[Text slide of an ellipsis followed by a cash register  sound and a text dollar sign]

In terms of depleted uranium scrap, if you take in the potential value of Depleted uranium at Nine Dollars a gram.

[Two text slides showing weights and possible scrap prices of DU projectiles]

That would mean that a Twenty mili-meter cannon round weighs 180 grams, that’s $1,620.00 each, for each bullet. (Assumed to mean without the shell casing)

For a Twenty Five mili-meter cannon round, that’s 200 grams for $1,800.00 each, for each bullet. (Assumed to mean without the shell casing)

Thirty mili-meter cannon round, 280 grams a piece, that’s $2520.00 a piece.(Assumed to mean without the shell casing)

Now, if you should happen to be lucky enough to find a 105 mili-meter penetrator round weighing 3.5 kilo-grams(3,500 grams) that’s $31,000! If you were able to find a complete penetrator round(meaning just the projectile not including the charge packed shell casing)

Then of course you have the 120 mili-meter penetrator round. if you should happened to find one of those, intact, at 4.5 kilo-grams. That’s $40,500.00 a piece.( Again, just the projectile, the word “intact” is stressed because one would expect these projectiles to get broken up once they are fired. We assume that any fully intact munitions would be long gone by the end of the battle )

think about that in terms of how much money we are spending for war.
[Text slide:Leave a comment if you believe these figures are wrong. But, even if the scrap price for DU was a tenth of that stated it is still a lot of money]

[ Cash register sound with Text slide of a Dollar sign followed by an  ellipsis]

But there may be a darker reason for the purported exposure in Falluja.

Falluja was the scene of three of the fiercest battles of the most recent Iraq war. Insurgent forces numbered in the thousands. They had built tunnels, spider holes, trenches, battlements of various types within homes and mosques, and they had even bricked up stairways leading to roof tops so that American snipers could not get into position. The fighting was so intense at times that US forces on occasion resorted to using white phosphorous munitions on spider holes and other difficult to reach insurgent positions. Some of those battlements were constructed inside homes and mosques. The question is if the US forces were frustrated enough to use White Phosphorous what else did they use?

It is known that penetrator anti tank weapons are also useful against buildings. The DU penetrator projectile fractures, atomizes, and burns on impact. The resulting combination of inertial force and fire are compounded by the fact that the depleted uranium burns up all of the available oxygen causing the enemy to suffocate. This horrific effect is what has caused some people to suggest that DU should be classified as a weapon of mass destruction. Whatever the case these weapons should probably not be used on civilians or on structures that will once again be used as dwellings.

This brings us to the following clips from a documentary by Sigfrido Ranucci titled “Falluja The Hidden Massacre” with comments made by journalist Giuliana Sgrena of “Il manefesto” an Italian newspaper.

[[[("Hidden massacre" comments by Giuliana Sgrena)

Male reporter: "Did you gather any particular information about Falluja?"

Giuliana Sgrena(through interpreter): "Not only in Falluja, I had heard stories from the inhabitants about the use of certain weapons like Nepalm in Bagdad during the Battle at the airport in April 2003. And then, I had collected just before going to interview the city refugees testimonies of other inhabitants of Falluja about the use of Guns and White Phosphorous. In particular, some women had tried to enter their homes and they had found a certain dust spread all over the house. The Americans themselves had told them to clean their houses with detergents because that dust was very dangerous. In fact, they had some effect on their bodies, leaving some very strange things. I would have liked to interview those persons but unfortunately my kidnappers ,who said to be part of Falluja's resistance, have forbidden me to tell what I had known about Faklluja by kidnapping me."(probably not a good translation)]]]

What is interesting here are her comments about us soldiers coming into Iraqi homes and warning the people that they needed to clean up dust left from the battle and that the dust was very dangerous. These comments were made back in 2006 verified by the upload date (of Dec 23rd, 2006) for the video. The video goes on to show victims of what they thought was white phosphorous. Let me warn you that the following images are unpleasant to look at, but it is necessary to illustrate my belief that these people were killed not by white phosphorus, or any other incendiary, but by Depleted uranium penetrator rounds.

[[[ (More "Hidden Massacre" comments by reporter )

Translation of man with his son: "This is my son after the bombing of( probably means by) the Americans in April. His body started to change, his skull has grown...

Reporter:" Dr. Hamid Hadid(may be misspelled) and his team were given US authorization to enter Falluja with the unenviable task of identifying and burring the dead. The bodies of the civilian casualties of women still clutching the (Misbaha) an Islamic Rosary. Their bodies showing strange injuries, some burned to the bone, others with skin hanging from their flesh. There is no sign of bullet wounds. The faces have literally melted away, just like other parts of the body. The clothes are strangely intact. and so it is easier to distinguish the insurgents who are wearing bullet proof jackets from combatants and civilians."]]]

What makes White phosphorous such a nasty weapon is that it breaks into small pieces that stick to the skin of the victim and cannot be extinguished until it burns its way far enough into the body that it runs out of air. In essence, WP makes nasty unmistakable holes in its victims. The bodies of the women shown here with their heads and hands burned in a very specific even pattern show no signs of holes.

[[[More "Hidden Massacre" comments by reporter:

"The clothes are strangely intact and so it is easier to distinguish the insurgents who are wearing bullet proof jackets from combatants and civilians. Some animals are also dead without any apparent injury." ]]]

The fact that the bodies are not totally burned up is evidence that the fire ran out of air to breath. This pattern is indicative of a depleted uranium weapon in use. The purported admonishment of the soldiers to the civilians in Falluja to clean up a dangerous dust in light of this is interesting.

At this point, you have to take Giuliana Sgrena’s word for it on the dust. However these images of burn patterns on the deceased can at least be dated to 2006. If depleted uranium weapons were used, anyone coming home to a house destroyed by them and digging through the rubble with their hands to find their loved ones and belongings would certainly have been exposed to depleted uranium. And, almost certainly without expert uranium abatement, significant contamination would remain for the foreseeable future.

Though the use of depleted uranium weapons on civilian structures during the battles with insurgents at Falluja is highly plausible, I have not proved it here. In order to make that case, there has to be either documentation of the use of these weapons there or a trustworthy catalog of radioactive hot spots in civilian areas of Falluja. My aim in this installment is merely to inject some common sense objectivity to claims by anyone that Depleted uranium is not harmful. On the face of it Uranium and many of its decay products are well known to be harmful to humans. Having said that, I do not want to aid anyone making false claims about contamination for personal or political gain, which is a distinct possibility. For the sake of the reputation of the United States and all of the children born in Iraq going forward, a thorough study should be made of the extent of contamination, clean up efforts should be made, and reparations for damages paid.

(Thanks to Representative Jim McDermott of the Seventh district of Seattle Washington for your efforts at finding truth and justice for the innocent children of Iraq.)

[News from the can and R. Crosby Lyles are not affiliated with Rep. Jim McDermott, HBO, or "Vice"]

[The opinions expressed here are strictly those of the author R. Crosby Lyles]

["Deadly Uranium" A News from the can Special Report written, directed, and produced by R.Crosby Lyles]

[It is considered pedestrian by some writers to reference Wikipedia. I reference Wikipedia because I am grateful that it exists.]
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Note:
Sorry about the mess. Dr. Douglas Rokke, Leuren Moret, Jeff Rense, and Alex Jones have largely been dismissed as a cranks by most rational people. Links to them have been included because I looked at what they had to say while I was researching this piece. My mission was indeed to verify claims about Depleted Uranium, and to debunk any Alex Jones hysteria I might happened to find. It is however a large, complicated story that took on a life of it's own. And, I'm not finished with it yet. To be fair to Alex Jones, Jeff Rinse, Doug Rokke, and who ever else might be out there jumping up and down about Depleted Uranium, I discovered various characteristics about DU that are very troubling. But, I was not able to convincingly connect the dots between Depleted Uranium and Gulf War Syndrome. Most of what I read point towards a  Prophylactic Nerve Gas drug and Bug spray as the root cause of GWS. Which is why I cut the parts about GWS out of this piece and will put them in my next piece.

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That depends on where you are. In the US, United Nuclear used to sell small samples like that, but I think they're out of stock now. It is rather dangerous, causes leukemia and other chronic disorders; so you need to cover samples with some protection. Eberline Services sells lab-quality slabs (4" x 4" x 1/8") for $3,700. That's about 626 grams, or 22.1 ounces, at $5.91 per gram.

Back in January 2010, United Nuclear was selling 61 grams for $549, that is $9 per gram.

1 oz = 28.35 grams
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  •  You might be interested in the article at NYT (5+ / 0-)

    Researchers Find Biological Evidence of Gulf War Illnesses

    In the two decades since the 1991 Persian Gulf war, medical researchers have struggled to explain a mysterious amalgam of problems in thousands of gulf war veterans, including joint pain, physical malaise and gastrointestinal disorders. In some medical circles, the symptoms were thought to be psychological, the result of combat stress.

     But recent research is bolstering the view that the symptoms, known collectively as gulf war illness, are fundamentally biological in nature. In the latest example, researchers at Georgetown University say they have found neurological damage in gulf war veterans reporting symptoms of the disease.

    Using magnetic resonance imaging to study the brains of gulf war veterans before and after exercise, the researchers discovered evidence of damage in parts of their brains associated with heart rate and pain. Such damage was not evident in the control group, which included nonveterans and healthy veterans.

    •  ... (4+ / 0-)
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      palantir, Lujane, Ginny in CO, cynndara

      Is there any reasonable way, other than studies that don't exist, of teasing out the causes?

      No doubt there are many potential causes: anthrax immunizations, anti-malarials, local parasites, waste disposal methods/chemical exposure (burning/air pollution/...), etc..

      The military, or at least some parts of it, likely do not want these studies done, for a variety of reasons. The only way to get them done is likely to get congress to pass legislation. Given congress' makeup right now, that seems unlikely.

      •  When I first became aware of DU (3+ / 0-)

        in 2004, it was an officer who had been involved in searching for the causes of Gulf War Illness. He himself had been diagnosed and listed some of his symptoms. One of the realities of that situation was there were some chemical weapons used as well. At the time it seemed to depend on where the soldier had actually been as to what symptoms presented. The Gulf War vets weren't on the ground as long, or doing as much bombing of anything. Saddam's elite Republican Guard was the primary target, mostly by fighter pilots.

        One point I remember about DU bombs is that in the explosion, the high temps create a silicone casing around the resulting DU particles. This allows them to be airborne. Inhaled or ingested, the particles can cause cancer over time.

        Also remember a scientific comment from the Manhattan Project. "DU targets human genes." Sure, it's a chemical with sentient ideas. How about "Human genes are extremely susceptible to DU damage."? DU does not discriminate between enemies, civilians, etc.

        My ex is an environmental engineer who came across mystery chemicals several times trying to clean up hazardous waste sites. The mixture of chemicals sometimes produced other chemicals that were as dangerous or worse than the ones that were supposed to be cleaned up.

        One site was really bad. Even worse, it took months to convince the contractor, owner (USAF) and EPA that it was actually toxic. When EPA finally showed up and looked at his test results, the workers' symptoms with max hazmat PPE and the history of the site, they shut the cleanup down and turned it over to Superfund.

        As far as I am concerned, all the data that has been collected (that I was aware of) should have been enough to accept that our war weapons were causing the cancers, genetic mutations, and infertility. It has clearly been expanded significantly.  We did far more to the Iraqi's than Saddam ever attempted.

        Al Jazeera had the original info I saw in 2004. Recently had a follow up on Falluja. Good info on the public health physician who has been documenting the deformities, cancers, etc. She spent months in Japan working with the doctors and scientists who have been studying the longitudinal a bomb effects.

        All I can say is the photos of the babies and children will never leave you. I would far rather know than not. Really appreciate all the work here. Have had to Hotlist to really get to more of it.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 12:39:04 AM PDT

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    •  Thank you (0+ / 0-)

      Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

      by Rich Lyles on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 12:17:52 PM PDT

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  •  Ugh (9+ / 0-)
    Now to be fair, U238 is considered weakly radioactive. On the other hand Reactor fuel (u235) is radioactive enough to cause a chain reaction. This is an important distinction because U235 with a half life of less than a quarter of u238 does not have to be ingested to be deadly to human habitation where as U238 must be physically consumed to be harmful.
    This is extremely inaccurate. The difference between U238 and U235 for fission fuel is the neutron cross-section and ability to sustain a chain reaction (fissile vs. fertile). It has nothing to do with their 'radioactivity', which is pretty similar between the two, and extremely low for both (~billion year half-lives).

    The chemical toxicity of both is much much more dangerous.

    Depleted uranium just means that the U235 fraction is lower than that found in nature. Radiologically, it's relatively inert, but I certainly wouldn't want to inhale or ingest it, mostly because of it's chemical toxicity.

    •  ... (4+ / 0-)

      This is mostly accurate, but U-235 (half-life 700 My) is in fact about 6.5x more radioactive than U-238 (half life 4.47 Gy).

      The reason U-235 is required for weapons is that it will undergo 'prompt' fission when exposed to high-energy neutrons, where U-238 mostly will not. This is, as you say, a property of their neutron energy vs. neutron cross section characteristics.

      This is likewise why nuclear reactors require moderators (like carbon or heavy water (D2O), which slow neutrons) and allow U-238 based reactors to be controlled relatively easily.

  •  Long, long time ago I can still remember how that (6+ / 0-)

    depleted uranium was being built into top shelf racing sail yacht keels built by the little family biz I worked for.

    So glad I opted out of joining that crew. Even in disco days I knew that uranium had a chemical toxicity. Well then so did the asbestos powder we used to thicken polyester resin into a bonding putty for assembling components of the rest of the fleet we built.

    Everybody in the shop were yacht clubbers, and they were doing this to their own.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 08:38:29 PM PDT

    •  Interesting. I got the impression that DU is (0+ / 0-)

      used for a lot of things. I wonder what else?

      It's funny. I was going to do a much shorter bit on the hysterics of Alex Jones and I ended up opening Pandora's Box.

      Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

      by Rich Lyles on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 01:24:36 PM PDT

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  •  Neutral reference (4+ / 0-)

    Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

    by Dogs are fuzzy on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 09:07:25 PM PDT

  •  Depleted uranium wil exist as an oxide (0+ / 0-)

    Only the valence states as an oxide are relevant
    to any review of the toxicity.    Trying to compare
    uranium exposure to hexavalent chromium exposure
    isn't an exercise in valid toxicology and risk evaluation.

    •  Thank you. (0+ / 0-)

      This particular field of study seems rather arcane. The literature that I looked at while researching this piece suggested the tendency of  a particular transition metal forming covalent bonds versus ionic bonds in terms of chemical mutagenicity. I am basically working on a hunch about the intermediate chemical species of Uranium. It might be wrong to stress hexa-valence but I went ahead with that notion in the hopes of learning more by perhaps being wrong, than learning nothing by playing it safe.  The quantitative determination of chemical toxicity and mutagenicity for the wide variety of chemical species of uranium does not seem very well established.

      Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

      by Rich Lyles on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 12:55:52 PM PDT

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  •  Thank you (0+ / 0-)

    for the immense time and effort required to research this article.  This calls for serious study; unfortunately that's exactly what we can count on NOT getting when the government has something to hide.

    •  Exactly! (0+ / 0-)

      This is the rabbit hole I fell into when I started on this piece. It's a black hole of arcane study to prove the chemical toxicity and mutagenicity that the anecdotal evidence seems to bare out.  It seems that the particulars of hard scientific proof can at times afford those with nefarious motives a spectacular place to hide.        

      Peace, Love, and Prosperity.

      by Rich Lyles on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 01:04:10 PM PDT

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