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Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-TX)
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In non-breaking news, pasty white Republican Rep. Kenny Marchant says his Republican Texas district doesn't much like the idea of immigration reform. He's not a fan either, because if we were to actually let some of these folks vote, well, they'd probably vote for the other team:
The proposed immigration overhaul “is very unpopular in my district,” said Marchant, who represents suburbs west of Dallas. “The Republican primary voters, they’re being pretty vocal with me on this subject.” Besides, he said, “if you give the legal right to vote to 10 Hispanics in my district, seven to eight of them are going to vote Democrat.”
Ah, the GOP dilemma in a nutshell. They wanted to support immigration reform so as to prove that they were not racist towards the brown people; they cannot support immigration reform because those brown people might then vote against them. There's no solution to that one that doesn't require far-right Republicans to stop demonizing immigrants and minorities, and that isn't going to be happening anytime soon. So they're stuck.

Here's an idea: don't treat people like crap and maybe they'll vote for you. Crazy-ass thought, I know. Just tossing that one out there.

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  •  We need a simple election law: (0+ / 0-)

    For federal elections, every citizen has the right to vote, even if they are in prison.

    For state and local elections, every resident has the right to vote, citizen or not.

    I'm tired of the attempts of racists to justify their hateful behavior toward others.

    Americans can make our country better.

    by freelunch on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:32:25 PM PDT

  •  If the Rs were smart enough.. (6+ / 0-)

    If the Republicans were smart enough to understand how these type of statements will be interpreted... well, then, they probably wouldn't be Republicans.

    I'll put on my glasses.... and tell you how sweet your ass is. (w/ apologies to Señor Bega)

    by mHainds on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:38:20 PM PDT

  •  I don't like the guy (3+ / 0-)
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    freelunch, wishingwell, anana

    He's got "preacher boy"  hair.  

    Here's an idea: don't treat people like crap and maybe they'll vote for you. Crazy-ass thought, I know. Just tossing that one out there.
    That's just crazy talk.  ;)
    •  Hunter is prone to that. (0+ / 0-)

      My question is why we allow some people to be citizens merely because they were born here and their parents were and their parents were. They've done nothing to deserve being citizens and often done a lot to show us that we would never allow them to be citizens if they hadn't been born here.

      I will not name names, Republicans, so many of you are off the hook.

      Americans can make our country better.

      by freelunch on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:43:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  My father came here illegally (5+ / 0-)

        WWII was over and he was in the Italian Merchant Marines.  In 1946, his ship docked in Baltimore.  He jumped ship, as he used to say, with a carton of cigarettes, a sweater and a few dollars in his pocket.  He made his way to NY, met my mother through her Napulitano brother-in-law.  They got married, had me and my sister and stayed married until my father passed away in 2000.

        My father's story is the story of America.  Very few of us came on the Mayflower.  This idea that illegal immigration or English as a second language is a recent thing is a crock.  

        However, Rep. Merchant was right in one respect.  Both my parents were yellow dog Democrats.  They knew exactly what the Rep. Merchants of the world were.  

        •  We were a welcoming country (1+ / 0-)
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          At one time we made it easy for anyone to become a citizen. There were no illegals. Sadly, we let bigotry get in the way and started excluding Chinese and then others, but even then we really didn't care all that much, never enough to make laws with teeth about immigration. Never enough to actually punish the Americans who make it so easy for undocumented workers to work here (even if the Americans are the main beneficiaries).

          My proposal for immigration reform:

          If you live here, we'll make you legal. All of you who didn't commit real felonies. If you want to live here, we'll let you, but we may need to keep the immigration rate to roughly 1% (3.2 million) of our population per year. If we end up with a backlog of more than 12 months, we'll reconsider the immigration rate.

          Americans can make our country better.

          by freelunch on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:06:44 PM PDT

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        •  One Republicon member of Congress (3+ / 0-)
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          Sorry, don't remember who it was, but they said we should get more immigrants from Europe than from Latin America and Mexico.  Hint, the people of Europe are white.

          Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

          by Rosalie907 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:06:57 PM PDT

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          •  Why would Europeans migrate here? (2+ / 0-)
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            Sure, they have idiot politicians wrecking their economies at the moment, but there isn't any real reason for them to migrate to the US. If they are tired of Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are more welcoming for those who don't want to have much of an adventure and there's an entire world for those who do.

            Americans can make our country better.

            by freelunch on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:10:49 PM PDT

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            •  Tell that (2+ / 0-)
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              To the idiot Republicon Congressman who made the comment.

              Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

              by Rosalie907 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:15:19 PM PDT

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              •  Clearly that guy has no idea what Europe is like (1+ / 0-)
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                For most people, the United States is the worst developed nation to live in, it just happens to be a lot easier to get into than most of the other developed nations because they haven't started to deal with their demographic problems.

                The Economist had a long series of articles about Germany in the last issue. One point it made is that Germany is currently trying to attract other Europeans (Spain is a good target because of their unemployment), but German programs don't have much flexibility for determining what these immigrants would be qualified for. Many of the qualifications rely on passing through a training program that you start at age 16.

                Germany also has a huge number of people whose families came from Turkey in the past 50-60 years, but the education system (primary school is half-day only in most states), while good enough for those of German heritage are leaving the Turks and other immigrants behind.

                And, yes, Germany needs immigrants because it is not prepared to handle a slowly shrinking populace and doesn't seem to have any willingness to confront the change.

                Americans can make our country better.

                by freelunch on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:27:47 PM PDT

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                •  Absolutely, Europeans have no interest (0+ / 0-)

                  Absolutely, Europeans have no interest in coming here to live.  They consider us a dangerous, violent and retro country.  

                  The congressman is an ignoramus living on the fantasy of "American Exceptionalism".  Same with his constituents.  But as long as they believe them "furners" are living just up from Stone Age, they're content.  They pump themselves up by making everyone else small.  

                  •  After W.W. II (1+ / 0-)
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                    Many immigrants came here from Europe, mostly from Italy (some were my relatives), Germany, France and other European Countries.  At that time we were seen as a country where they could live freely, work hard, follow their religious beliefs, marry (if they weren't already), raise their children and have the American Dream.  They were free of the wars that engulfed their lives and those of their parents and grandparents and took refuge here.  Most of them were leaving behind homes that were now a shell due to the bombings, lack of food and the basic needs of people and the fear that they suffered through.  

                    Now, why should they come here?  They see this country as backwards, no socialized medicine, with our violence and where they're treated like 2nd class individuals.  Education is much better in their countries and they have Government pensions, plenty of food and make decent salaries.  The legal immigrants coming here now are from the Far East, Middle East (and some from these 2 are staying past their visa allottment) and Eastern Europe (Russia and countries that were under the rule of Russia when it was the Soviet Union).  Those coming over illegally are mostly from Spanish speaking countries and they're leaving behind the despair and poverty of their countries in order to support those they've left behind and make a decent living here in the U.S.A.    

                    Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

                    by Rosalie907 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 08:49:06 PM PDT

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                •  Many of those immigrants (0+ / 0-)

                  Settling in European Countries are not treated fairly and not allowed to have many of the benefits citizens of those countries have.  

                  Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

                  by Rosalie907 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 08:53:47 PM PDT

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          •  Compare notes with people who go through the hoops (0+ / 0-)

            for a green card after getting married and, well, you won't be very astounded at how much easier it is for Europeans than Latinos.

        •  An extraordinary story. (2+ / 0-)
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          What a Dad!

    •  Before today, his one redeeming quality (2+ / 0-)
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      is that he normally keeps his mouth shut on matters of importance and even most matters of unimportance.

      It looks like he got jealous at his district's neighbor, Michael Burgess (he of the masturbating fetus) and decided he could no longer remain silent.

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      by harrije on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:13:44 PM PDT

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  •  In a nutshell, why I love Hunter. (9+ / 0-)
    Here's an idea: don't treat people like crap and maybe they'll vote for you. Crazy-ass thought, I know. Just tossing that one out there.

    In the time it took Adam Lanza to reload, eleven children escaped. What if...

    by Sixty Something on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:38:42 PM PDT

  •  My God, a straight talking Republican! (5+ / 0-)

    Tells it like it is, does Cong. Merchant.

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:42:31 PM PDT

    •  Maybe he's worried about being primaried (4+ / 0-)
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      In a GOP primary, you can never be too bigoted.

      Americans can make our country better.

      by freelunch on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:44:17 PM PDT

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    •  But Merchant is wrong. It would take at least 13 (0+ / 0-)

      years after the law for people to even apply for citizenship.
      But by voting for the law the immigrant supporting voters would be move likely to vote for him.

    •  Yeah, honestly I have less against him... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...than the others who really have his rationale but make up other shit to avoid saying it.  What politician would willingly enfranchise people who would just vote against him or her?

      You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

      by Rich in PA on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:19:14 PM PDT

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      •  Actually, I hope Democrats would, even though... (0+ / 0-)

        ... it would hurt.

        I'm more troubled by the idea that a lot of Hispanics, particularly in Texas, reportedly don't go to the polls.

        2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

        by TRPChicago on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 05:22:57 AM PDT

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        •  I'm a mirror image of Republicans like Marchant (0+ / 0-)

          I think the other party hurts the country, and while I wouldn't actively disenfranchise anyone, I wouldn't overexert myself to get new people on the voter rolls who would hurt the country.

          You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

          by Rich in PA on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 08:56:12 AM PDT

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          •  I hear you, though I'm coming from another place. (0+ / 0-)

            I've done "Voter Protection" duty in three different states for the Obama/DNC. Their standard is scrupulous: you're there to assist the process as best you can, irrespective of what you may hear about people's preference.

            Disenfranchisement - active or passive, in the registration process or on voting day - viscerally repels me.

            I've seen all manner of voters and would-be voters go to considerable effort to participate. People with grandchildren on both sides of them escorting them to the sign-in desk, people on oxygen canisters, people mystified, some made visibly anxious, by the hubbub of long lines and the noise of crowds in the precinct hall. People distraught when they arrived just after the poll doors were closed and couldn't get in.

            In 2008, I saw one elderly woman in tears as she held her ballot up close to her face, looking it over again and again. She was there to vote, but I think she didn't want to let it go. I'm pretty sure that woman voted for Barack Obama. I don't know about the others. But I wasn't going to stand in the way of any of them.

            You and I both would have been happy, though, because the Democrat at the top of the ticket in those precincts won every time by about a 2:1 margin.

            2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

            by TRPChicago on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 09:45:23 AM PDT

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  •  If it's going to take 13 years to be able to (5+ / 0-)

    apply for citizenship, that gives the Repukes lots of time to win immigrants over. In the meantime, maybe they should quit worrying about the future, and try to appeal to the citizen relatives of the immigrants. Nah, Hunter's right. Probably not gonna happen.

    •  constitutional rights (2+ / 0-)
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      children of immigrants under these proposals can vote before their parents are ever able to? And this will ameliorate feelings and make these alternatively illegals love the GOP???

      While the GOPers are at it they should make it illegal for non-citizens to be drafted for any kind of government service at any level, unless citizenship is automatic with oath of enlistment.

  •  Kudos To Marchant (0+ / 0-)

    This is the kind of pragmatic thinking we need more of in Congress.

    "Look here," he was yelling. "Look here, the bunglers—"

    by The Lone Apple on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:53:52 PM PDT

  •  Points for honesty. (6+ / 0-)

    Of course he loses those right away for lack of humanity.

    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

    by Mike S on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 05:54:01 PM PDT

  •  In other words (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr. Marchant does not actually believe that passing immigration reform will help the GOP win over Hispanic voters.

    Which is probably the truth.

    28, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:01:06 PM PDT

  •  Republicans should also worry about.... (2+ / 0-)
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    freelunch, wishingwell

    ....white people waking up and realizing that, unless they have a 7-figure income, it really doesn't make economic sense to vote for the Republican agenda.  White people might like cheaper healthcare too.  (I know I would)

  •  Not very popular in the (1+ / 0-)
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    Gerrymandered district in which he lives.

    650,000 residents.
    148,000 votes for Marchant in 2012.

    How many of those residents can legally vote?

    only 243,000 voted.

    Looks like a very low turn out anyway.

    I ain't often right, but I've never been wrong. Seldom turns out the way it does in this song.

    by mungley on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:18:42 PM PDT

  •  The only jobs efforts by GOP: their own! (0+ / 0-)

    Just look at how they always suck up to their base so to not have primaries...

  •  Bye-bye, Bigot-Kenny (0+ / 0-)

    Angry old selfish white guy. SAD!

  •  We can deny rights based on voting habits? (0+ / 0-)

    Someone tell Darrell Issa.

  •  let them immigrate but never vote? (0+ / 0-)

    maybe some sort of permanent visa without voting rights?

  •  Marchant (0+ / 0-)

    Yep, this guy is my congressman in Texas District 24.

    Of course, I am not being short-changed on Marchants. His son is the mayor of my city (Carrollton, Texas).

  •  He should change his name to (0+ / 0-)

    Genericus Republicus Maximus. Because that's basically what he is.

    Leftist Mormon in Utah, Born in Washington State, live in UT-04 (Matheson).

    by Gygaxian on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 10:02:55 PM PDT

  •  Please don't be racist. (0+ / 0-)

    He's not Republican because he's "pasty white".  
    He's Republican because he's a selfish, narrow-minded subhuman utterly lacking in intelligence and empathy.  Keep focus.

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