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Marco Rubio sips water during the 2013 GOP SOTU response
Ironically, Rubio partially aborted his response to President Obama's State of the Union
Marco Rubio has a message for conservatives who are worried that his support for immigration reform means he's wants to get a divorce from the American right:
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) will introduce a bill in the Senate banning abortions 20 weeks after conception, the Weekly Standard reported Tuesday.

According to the Weekly Standard report, Rubio will announce his sponsorship of the measure after Congress returns from the July 4 recess.

Gee, it's almost like Rubio is launching a cynical attack on reproductive freedom in order to distract his base from the fact that he just took a non-crazy position on immigration reform. Who could ever have imagined that?

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:20 AM PDT.

Also republished by Abortion and Pro Choice.

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  •  Why not a bill declaring evolution to be (10+ / 0-)

    the Devil's work?  Or fixing the creation of the Earth at 4004 B.C.? They have about an equal chance of becoming law.

    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

    by bobdevo on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:22:56 AM PDT

  •  I wish he'd dry up and blow away. n/y (3+ / 0-)
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    DEMonrat ankle biter, Trix, maryannm

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:23:46 AM PDT

  •  (A x H)2 - I = A big fat zero (2+ / 0-)
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    ColoTim, Gentle Giant

    (Abortion x homophobia) to the power of the second ammendment - Immigration still equals zero.

    Purity's a bitch.

    "Let's see what fresh fuckwittery these dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this time." -- Iain Banks, The Hydrogen Sonata

    by Rikon Snow on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:24:34 AM PDT

  •  Just took a tour through Hotair.com (6+ / 0-)

    There is no love for RINO Rubio there.

    Sorry about your 2016 fella.

    The highest form of spiritual practice is self observation with compassion.

    by NCJim on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:28:03 AM PDT

    •  Won't matter. Donors + "electability" pitch (0+ / 0-)

      = 2016 is Rubio's to lose.

      He is a snake, if it's Hillary she has to work hard, and select a good teleginic young VP.

      If It's Biden, the optics won't look good at all (which means a lot in this social media era) and we'll really need to be 100% solid with no room for error on the issues.  We wont' be able to afford that corporate, centrist shit.

      •  Not sure I buy this (0+ / 0-)

        What's "electable" about Rubio?

        29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

        by TDDVandy on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:46:42 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  For a kossite he certainly isn't. (0+ / 0-)

          For low-information, casual voter, he certainly is.

          He is obviously a warmongering kook, but the thing is he looks and sounds reasonable enough, and he's a minority so surely he isn't that bad.

          That'll be the narrative.

          Basically, I'm saying we'll need to be 100% solid on the optics and on the substance in 2016 if it's this guy, I think he's more dangerous than Romney or McCain.

          •  well, yeah. (0+ / 0-)

            But one thing I remember from the 2012 campaign was hearing some Republican strategist mention that the reason why Rubio wasn't going to be the pick for VP had to do with some sort of "red herring" in his record.  Basically, he's probably corrupt, and that would probably come up in a Presidential election.

            29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

            by TDDVandy on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:54:15 AM PDT

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          •  Disagree. The more he associates himself with (1+ / 0-)
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            the extreme right's social agenda, the less electable he becomes because this sort of association is so plainly for political reasons that it's clear he really really doesn't care about the content of any of these issues save for their effect on his political ambitions. And how on earth does he intend to get back the majority of women who went for BHO the last two rounds if he is doing this? Or is he hoping we will all be so unhappy that we will boycott the voting.

      •  Julian Castro (nt) (0+ / 0-)

        I do not demand tolerance, I demand equal rights. --Anna Grodzka

        by VeggiElaine on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 11:38:46 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  One thing's for certain: (0+ / 0-)

        It will not be Biden.  No way, no how.

  •  No problem! (3+ / 0-)
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    ColoTim, Faito, Buckeye54

    Let Rubio introduce the bill, it cannot pass the Senate, and it will only be hung around his neck in 2016 like an anchor.    Republicans won't win in 2016 without women votes, and women do not want this.

  •  Partly This is About 2014 Even Though He's Not (5+ / 0-)

    directly involved. Base election, time for the white authoritarians to move the window another hundred yards to the right.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:34:16 AM PDT

    •  White authoritarians (0+ / 0-)

      must be getting a Hispanic guy to do their dirty work for them.

      29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

      by TDDVandy on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:46:08 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Cubans have their own unique position in racial (1+ / 0-)
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        hierarchies, particularly the kind who come from where he does.There is a certain class of Cubans who believe themselves descendants of the Conquistadores, and intrisncially superior to Afro Cubans and others.  Remember, this group came in as happily welcomed guests, yes I know his got here a little bit earlier, but their self proclaimed superiority over other sorts of cubans and other sorts of Hispanics has always caused political problems anyway. I do not notice any of the non Cuban Hispanic groups falling over themselves to claim him.

      •  White 1% (0+ / 0-)

        always hire gophers to do their work for them. What is the last time a wealthy GOPer ran for office and spend time on the rubber chicken circuit?

        One of the trivia bits the conservatives I know consistently bring up, that there are more wealthy DEMS than GOPERS on Capitol Hill.

        I can never convince them that one I don't want a poor person representing me, open to graft and probably never understood how an economy works never wind global and National Politics, and two; the wealthy hire folks to represent them on Capitol Hill. In Oklahoma there is an endless supply of gophers willing to do the dirty work.

  •  an idiot & a scoundrel (2+ / 0-)
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    TDDVandy, Faito
    during his 2010 campaign, which alleges he misused Republican campaign money for personal expenses
  •  Gee...Goopers think their base is REALLY dumb..... (3+ / 0-)
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    Aquarius40, TDDVandy, Faito

    and they're right.

  •  What about jobs? (1+ / 0-)
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    TDDVandy

    What about all the other issues that might actually stand a chance of making money?  Oh, right.  This is a jobs and money bill - just for the fundamentalists and all their Republican stooges.  Women and those who love them be damned.

  •  Abortion will not be a winning "plank" in 2016 (3+ / 0-)
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    TDDVandy, Gentle Giant, Buckeye54

    Republicans are clearly on the defensive going forward.  An attempt to ban or restrict abortions will not earn them critical votes.

    Everyone is crying out for peace; no one's crying out for justice...

    by mojave mike on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:43:28 AM PDT

  •  This just reminds me how angry I am that... (4+ / 0-)

    so many Democrats (or just non-republicans) stayed home in 2010. It reminds me how angry that Democrate remained so calm and even quiet back during the health care debate when republicans were screaming "death panels!","Socialism!" and hanging off of balconies cheering on vicious, racially charged tea partiers outside congress. If Democrats were stronger in their messaging, if they actually had messaging, they could have drowned out the ridiculous right wing freak outs with easy to understand language on why the new health care law was a a good thing. They could have spoken out just as loud but with actual FACTS and common sense on their side to counter endless lies and fear mongering by the right. If that had been handled better the no information voters who came out in droves to vote R in 2010 wouldn't have given the House to the American Taliban and things would have been different...even SOMEWHAT different would be better than what we have now.

    To be blunt, if you do not suffer from seriously diminished mental capacity or the personality disorder that is right wing extremism and still vote Republican...I'd double check on the two previously mentioned conditions.

    by jellin76 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:43:41 AM PDT

    •  Facts and common sense (2+ / 0-)
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      MsPlasmodesmata, Egalitare

      are no match for juicy, emotion-charged soundbites that are righteous-sounding and hateful.

      Give knuckle-draggers any fuel for their righteous indignation and it doesn't matter if their info is factual, as long as it justifies their vitriol.

      Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by Gentle Giant on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:56:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  This is rehab. (3+ / 0-)
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    TDDVandy, Egalitare, Gentle Giant

    He's got a lot of ass kissing to do after originally proposing immigration reform with a path to citizenship.

  •  what is it about 20 weeks? (1+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant

    And is this JUST going to ban abortions 20 weeks after conception, or is it going to contain the other bullshit about doctors having admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles that are just stuck in there to shut down abortion clinics but claim they're concerned about women's health?

    Because I'm guessing it's actually the latter.

    29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:44:20 AM PDT

  •  *how angry I am that Democrats remained...* (0+ / 0-)

    typing angry = fail

    To be blunt, if you do not suffer from seriously diminished mental capacity or the personality disorder that is right wing extremism and still vote Republican...I'd double check on the two previously mentioned conditions.

    by jellin76 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:44:32 AM PDT

  •  Forced-birther hypocrisy (2+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant, MsPlasmodesmata

    If a 20-week-old infant dies while in the care of its mother, legal authorities are going to be involved unless medical authorities can conclusively rule the death was due to natural causes.

    If, as forced-birthers assert, a 20-week-old fetus has the same rights as that 20-week-old infant, then they should also be pushing bills that require law enforcement authorities to investigate every miscarriage to make sure that the mother didn't cause it through actions or neglect.

    Not only that, but if a 20-week-old fetus truly does have the same status as that of a child, then all parents of miscarried pregnancies should be having funerals with proper gravesites.

    But that's not all: if life does begin at fertilization, then the forced-birthers need to address the huge numbers of failed implantations that occur each year across the population. How do we know that the mother didn't do something to make implantation difficult? Isn't it genocide to have all those fertilized eggs flushed naturally out of the mother's body? The logical end of forced-birtherism is to have all women of reproductive age placed into breeding clinics where each fertilized egg is guaranteed a place at God's table.

  •  The game is lost. (0+ / 0-)

    The GOP is weakened. They're desperately trying to get all they can before falling from power.

    Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:50:30 AM PDT

    •  The game is not lost as long as Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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      Gentle Giant

      control the election process.  With the severe gerrymandering they put in place after 2010, we already have less than 50% of the population having 75% of the representatives and ruling over blue/purple states like OH, WI, PA, MI, and FL.  

      I have no confidence that between voter suppression and other creative tactics that it will be possible to take back those states, certainly not the legislatures.  If we are lucky we can elect governors and other statewide offices to at least put a brake on the extremism, but without control of the legislature regaining what has been lost will be very difficult.

      “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

      by ahumbleopinion on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 11:00:22 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That's pretty much what I was saying. (0+ / 0-)

        They're getting desperate now because their agenda have lost popularity. They're doing everything they can to "win" underhandedly.

        They'll take it too far.

        Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

        by Gentle Giant on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 01:29:55 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Religous Right Should Sue For Misrepresentation (1+ / 0-)
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    stagemom

    What the right wing ideally does is use these issues now to raise money from the fundies. Then they will use the money to look moderate for the elections and if they are smart (unlike Akin and Mourdock) never mention abortion again.

  •  What is it about this week... (16+ / 0-)

    ...and fucking forced birthing laws? Texas. Ohio. North Carolina. Now the US Senate.

    I seriously cannot comprehend how politicians can fly so bravely in the face of ACOG (American Congress of Obstetrics and Gynecology) which has issued statements opposing such legislature, in Texas specifically. If they're not going to listen to doctors, then who?

    You do not own the contents of my uterus, politicians. This 20-week ban is the newest strategy to chip away at Roe, and it is disgusting. A lot of fetal testing for lethal or severe abnormalities doesn't become available until then. They would FORCE a woman to go through childbirth just to watch her newborn suffer and die? Instead of allowing her to get anesthesia (which is transferred to the fetus, which can't feel pain at that point anyway) and terminate the pregnancy safely inside of her? Shouldn't SHE be the one to determine what would be more or less traumatic for her and her family?

    I think much of this comes down to scientific ignorance. Everyone needs to be informed about embryology and the actual process of reproduction. 60% of fertilized eggs that are conceived are naturally aborted by the body before a woman even knows she's pregnant. Does that mean, if I go to "heaven", I'm going to meet a bunch of brothers and sisters that were never anything more than clumps of cells in my mother's uterus? No. That's stupid, and it's based on specious logic. Our medical practices and laws governing our medical practices should be based on EVIDENCE.

    Evidence tells us that fetuses cannot feel pain until ~30 weeks. Evidence tells us that abortion is 14x safer than childbirth. Evidence tells us that the vast majority of abortions are performed in the first trimester, and restricting access to abortion results in the deaths of more women. And logic tells us that, legally and ethically, CONTROL of the women's body needs to be given to either the woman or whatever is growing inside of her. There is no middle ground. If something is growing inside of me---using my oxygen, food, and blood---I have sovereignty over it.

  •  Marco "The Guzzler" Rubio n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    VeggiElaine, stagemom

    O great creator of being grant us one more hour to perform our art and perfect our lives. ::: Jim Morrison :::

    by Kevanlove on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 11:19:59 AM PDT

  •  I wonder repubs greet each other saying (1+ / 0-)
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    stagemom

    "Hi, no abortion".

    God be with you, Occupiers. God IS with you.

    by Hohenzollern on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 11:49:32 AM PDT

  •  american taliban. sharia law republicon-style. (0+ / 0-)

    "A dollah makes me hollah"-- Stephen Colbert, pretending to be S. Palin

    by stagemom on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 12:51:30 PM PDT

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