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Good morning fellow Daily Kos folks.  Just a short posting about something I heard this morning on the radio.  It feels important to me, but I cannot figure out exactly why.  "Heart."  I have heard and used this word in contexts like sports and giving.  "He may suck at throwing the ball, but wow, he's got heart!"  "Have a heart--give a dollar to feed the homeless."  Stuff like that.  Trying your best and giving.  

SO, when juror B37 says that George Zimmerman's "heart was in the right place," I am really curious what, exactly, that means to her.  Am I missing something about this term along the lines of "bless his heart" (I never knew that could be a veiled insult until I read a diary at Daily Kos many moons ago explaining such)?  

It just seems like such a weird, creepy, bizarre thing to say IMHO.  His heart was in the right place, with a loaded gun and all, but he killed an unarmed minor?  Does she mean . . . .  I really don't know.  

I cannot get it out of my mind, though.  His heart was in the right place?  What the hell does B37 mean?

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  •  Her words betray her own racism. (12+ / 0-)

    She is a disgusting person.  

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:24:40 AM PDT

  •  It's a synonym for "free of malice" (6+ / 0-)

    B37 is trying to say that he had good intentions.

    Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

    by Dogs are fuzzy on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:24:49 AM PDT

    •  The fact that Zimmerman participated in a (10+ / 0-)

      neighborhood watch group may have been well motivated, but it may also have been a cheap grab for quasi authority to confront others.  People with inadequate personalities seek out public positions to compensate for what their characters and personalities lack.  Check out our congress members like Louie Gohmert who leaps into the media at ever chance lest folks forget he is in congress.

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      by judyms9 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:35:30 AM PDT

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      •  Not the case! (5+ / 0-)

        GZ was NOT a member of any organized watch group sanctioned by the City of Sanford or by Seminole County. This was just another case of bias by the MSM. They didn't refer to him as "accused murderer" George Zimmerman. It was always "neighborhood watch volunteer" George Zimmerman, or "neighborhood watch leader" George Zimmerman, or "block watch captain" George Zimmerman.

        The National Sheriffs Association sent out a press release critical of that misrepresentation. They wanted people to know that real neighborhood watch leaders are thoroughly vetted, or at least go through a record check. With GZ's past assault arrest and domestic violence record, I doubt he would have been cleared for participation in a sanctioned program. Also, the Sheriffs Association wanted to remind people that their job is to simply "see and say". That is, they are to observe and report, but under no circumstances should they follow or confront.

        GZ was a cop wannabe who was tolerated by the authorities because of his father's status and his friend Mark Osterman who was a disgraced former Seminole County Sheriff.

        In their eyes there's something lacking; what they need's a damn good whacking.

        by Mad City 67 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 10:00:11 AM PDT

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        •  GZ did have Neighborhood Watch training from (2+ / 0-)
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          the person in Sanford police who does that. She testified to same.

          I am not defending him. I think he is horrific. But, he did have training. All the more reason not to break every rule she taught him.

          "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

          by rubyr on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 10:46:18 AM PDT

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          •  Maybe not... (1+ / 0-)
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            The neighborhood watch group associated with Zimmerman was informal and not registered with the National Sheriffs Association.  Regarding GZ's "training", I refer you to:

            NPR Link

            Law Officer Link

            Trayvon Martin Blogspot link

            In their eyes there's something lacking; what they need's a damn good whacking.

            by Mad City 67 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 12:51:01 PM PDT

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            •  I saw the woman testify in the trial. She was (1+ / 0-)
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              from the Sanford police dept. She did the training on a volunteer basis. The State did not call her legitimacy into question. The group may have been informal, I only know what I saw during the trial. My point is that he had "some" training and he disregarded all the rules in that training, as per the woman's testimony as to what those rules were.

              "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

              by rubyr on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 02:58:20 PM PDT

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        •  The head of such testified that he was even (0+ / 0-)

          offered to have a car with lights and he declined.  That was a important point in my mind regarding the wanna be cop factor.  Why did he decline such an offer....seems to me it would be a "wanna be Cop"'s wet dream to have such authority, real or imagined?

          •  I don't think ol George (2+ / 0-)
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            would've had the cajones to be 'marked' - as we see, his fantasy was being the hunter, not the prey.  Wouldn't want to be without his gun if he had to collar someone who didn't pick up after their dog.

            "You're barking up the wrong tree. There's no cat up there." -Stella Adler via Holland Taylor

            by brook on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 12:55:24 PM PDT

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    •  good intentions (6+ / 0-)

       
           He probably did have good intentions, unfortunately good intentions don't always lead to good results. I heard once there was an entire road paved with good intentions, but I don't care for were it leads.  

      "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." T. Roosevelt

      by Lowgun on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:46:30 AM PDT

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  •  The defense did an excellent job of (5+ / 0-)

    making their client sympathetic; and the prosecution never bothered to bring Trayvon Martin out of the shadows and show him to be the harmless teenager that he actually was.

    Whatever inherent biases any of the jurors brought into their deliberations, the prosecution did little to nothing to humanize the victim as a way of overcoming bias - which they should have done as a matter of course.  There are so many things that they could have done to create a clearer picture of this young man, but it was like they weren't really all that interested in winning their case.

  •  There has been crime in that giant (3+ / 0-)
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    neighborhood.  George Zimmerman took it upon himself to stop it.

    That could be construed as "good intentions".  

    The problem with that though was the complete lack of respect GZ showed toward a person he alone decided "didn't belong there".  That this juror didn't even see that is a problem.  A huge problem that runs through our society like a fucking virus.  And it's why this case took on the life it did.

    Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

    by PsychoSavannah on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 08:06:29 AM PDT

  •  The best spin on that might be , (4+ / 0-)
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    he was trying to do good by looking for people doing bad .

    In my view he was hunting human beings with malice in his heart . His heart was not in the right place , his heart was between his butt cheeks .

    The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. David Morrison

    by indycam on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 08:19:02 AM PDT

  •   That was my 'WTF' moment (8+ / 0-)

    of the day.
    "Heart in the right place" Good grief!  A young man is dead because another needed a boost to the ego. Heart in the right place my foot!

    BTW "Bless your heart" is not always an insult. It depends on the tone of voice. But here on the web I always mean it as an insult.

    El pueblo unido jamás será vencido. The people united will never be defeated

    by mint julep on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 08:22:41 AM PDT

  •  And Tayvon's heart was in the wrong place. (3+ / 0-)
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    Tayvon should have apologized for blocking the path of Zimmerman's bullet with his heart.

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 08:34:32 AM PDT

  •  His heart was in the right place? (2+ / 0-)
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    And what--friggin' place---might that be?

    She has tremendous sympathy for racism---and that is sickening.

    Mayan Word For 'Apocalypse' Actually Translates More Accurately As "Time Of Pale Obese Gun Monsters."......the Onion

    by lyvwyr101 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 09:12:25 AM PDT

    •  She's not just a sickening racist - (1+ / 0-)
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      she is, to this day, willfully ignorant. Insists on calling and admiring John Donnelly as a "Doctor". He was a medic but not a doctor- but oh, weren't his tears touching? He not only gave "George" a ton of money and clothes, he gave a few thou to McCain, then Romney.

      I think she does have one regret though. Losing her BOOK deal and her chance to be sumbuddy.

      "You're barking up the wrong tree. There's no cat up there." -Stella Adler via Holland Taylor

      by brook on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 01:06:39 PM PDT

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      •  That's a great term: willfully ignorant. (1+ / 0-)
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        That's exactly what people like this---are.

        They actually enjoy how much pain their opinions and beliefs inflict on others.

        Why deal with the facts---a difference of opinion--or common sense?

        They enjoy being who they are---but it's the smugness that gags me.

        Mayan Word For 'Apocalypse' Actually Translates More Accurately As "Time Of Pale Obese Gun Monsters."......the Onion

        by lyvwyr101 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 02:31:31 PM PDT

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  •  Thank you for sharing, folks. Still bugs me. (0+ / 0-)

    Mix the blood and make new people!

    by Yonkers Boy on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 05:45:57 AM PDT

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