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UPDATE: Friday Early Morning 12:30 AM EDT:
AC360/Anderson Cooper Interview with Marissa Alexander's Attorneys And Opposition (Plus: Discussion on Angela Corey)
Chris Hayes Coverage, July 15:

Original diary - Thursday July 18

CNN Interview With Marissa Alexander from 2012:

Before the trial, her abusive husband, Rico Gray, gave a deposition in which he admits to battering and beating Marissa. He admits that she never pointed the gun at him. And he admits she was right to do what she did. He later changed his story in court. There are more documents on file, the full deposition and letters in Marissa's defense from others who witnessed her abuse.

Last Saturday, July 13, George Zimmerman walked out of a courtroom free, after stalking and killing a teenager, claiming self-defense. Today, Marissa Alexander is in prison, away from her children, for hurting no one.

The biggest crimes now seems to be within our court system. America will not stand by and see her get lost in the shuffle of women incarcerated for defending herself.


Here are some actions we can take:

Sign: Petition to Florida Governor Rick Scott

Email:Governor Scott directly.

Visit: Facebook page: FreeMarissaNow national campaign

Let's take care of this. Let's get this done, for Marissa, for battered women, and for American democracy.

Rico Gray Court Deposition Screen Shot 1
Rico Gray Court Deposition Screen Shot 2
Rico Gray Court Deposition Screen Shot 3
Rico Gray Court Deposition Screen Shot 4
Letter From Gray's Ex-Wife:
Quotes From Alleged Ex-Wife - Screen Shot 7: From Rico Gray’s ex-wife: “I left him after that fight and moved in with my mother. A few weeks later we were on talking terms again for my daughter’s sake. I was on my way to work one evening and he came by wanting his tag off the car I was driving. I refused to give him the keys so he jumped on me. This time I (was) about 4 or 5 months pregnant so I was thinking to protect my baby. I hit him with everything I could pick up to get him out of the house. He stumped me over and over and kicked my belly. He has hitme in the head with a gun and still to this day I have a broken nose thanks to him. (He) is very conniving and manipulative. He can be so sweet and convincing but once you were where he wants you, he turns…”
Here are previous Daily Kos diaries I've written about her. You can find more Kossack diaries if you search 'Marissa Alexander':

Marissa Alexander's Abusive Husband's Deposition

A Letter From Marissa Alexander - Battered Women Serving 20 For Firing Warning Shot

Stand Your Ground? Black Woman Fires Shot Gets 20 Years - White Man Kills And Goes Free

Also from another diary... (TRIGGER WARNING)


According to research by Mother Jones:
Domestic violence is the No. 1 cause of injury to women. The incidents add up to more than all the rapes, muggings, and car accidents women experience each year. One out of every four women in the United States will be physically injured by a lover in her lifetime. That translates into a woman being assaulted every nine seconds in America. Immigrant women are beaten at higher rates than US citizens, and African American women are subjected tothe most severe forms of violence. Not surprisingly, a shaky economy just makes these numbers worse.

In 2005 1,181 females were killed by their intimate partners in the U.S..

If your are being abused or know someone being abused, please call the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE

Originally posted to Leslie Salzillo on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:12 PM PDT.

Also republished by Feminism, Pro-Feminism, Womanism: Feminist Issues, Ideas, & Activism.

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  •  Leslie, (21+ / 0-)

    Thank you so much for standing up for Marissa!

    Let us never forget.
    That is my biggest fear for her, that, locked away, she will be out of sight and out of mind.

    I am so glad that you are keeping her struggle for justice front and center.

    God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

    by JayRaye on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:39:29 PM PDT

  •  It's important that Ms. Alexander be free (4+ / 0-)

    I don't think it's helpful to always bring up Zimmerman. That criminal case is over, and lost.

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:40:20 PM PDT

  •  This is an outrage from the standpoint of women's (9+ / 0-)

    issues, race issues, human rights issues, and generational issues. Correct this absurd injustice, for we as a Nation, are better than this!

  •  Not the only such case in Florida (18+ / 0-)

    I never got any names for this and can't find it in Google, but one of my firearms instructors was involved in defending a domestic violence self-defense case in Florida.

    An arthritic woman's ex had strangled her and left her for dead. She recovered consciousness and crawled to the neighbors's in agony to call the police. The ex came back to the scene while the police were there. As they dragged him away, he shouted "You fucking bitch, I'm going to kill you!", documented in the police report.

    Somehow he got out of jail and looked her up again. There are some situations in self-defense law where it's considered reasonable for someone to fear for their lives even when the attacker has no weapon: many against one, man against a woman, able-bodied against disabled, and so on. She had two such reasons on her side legally, and a history to support her belief that he was going to kill her.

    She also had a gun. She saved her own life. The hospital couldn't save her ex's life.

    So what did Florida do? They hauled her into court because she "shot an unarmed man".

    She won, but Florida does seem to have a double standard on self-defense.

    Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

    by Dogs are fuzzy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:04:21 PM PDT

    •  I heard about that one too. (2+ / 0-)
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      There is a double standard.  

      Based on the evidence available, the SA/DA has the option to press charges more or less at their discretion.  If the SA/DA has a tendency to prosecute any/all shootings, you're likely to see a lot of self defense shootings on trial.  In jurisdictions with a more self-defense-friendly SA/DA you're likely to see less self-defense cases go to trial.

      Here in Illinois, we have one SA in Cook County who will prosecute any and all cases of self defense as UUA /AUUA cases.  A few counties over in Peoria County, the SA is on record saying he won't even charge a person for carrying a concealed weapon (with or without a permit) unless they were concurrently committing another crime! How many self-defense cases do you see him taking to court?

      Since States Attourneys are elected officals, they get a lot of latitude to charge (or not) as they see fit, then the voters get to determine if they can keep their job the next election cycle based on their track record.  In a way, the SA for a jurisdiction tends to represent the prevailing political beliefs of the constituency,  for better or for worse.

  •  Great diary, thanks (3+ / 0-)
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    Leslie Salzillo, elwior, worldlotus

    Racial hostility, homophobia and misogyny are braided together like strands of the same rope. When we fight one, we fight them all. - Charles M. Blow

    by blueoregon on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:31:23 PM PDT

  •  This isn't as clean of a case as some would like.. (11+ / 0-)

    Link to court order denying dismissal under SYG

    First, by her own admittance, she walked past her husband (and presumably the front and back doors) to the garage (where she didn't attempt to flee) and grabbed her gun.  While there is no duty to retreat in Florida, she did, in fact, retreat.  Then she went back with a gun to confront him.

    Generally, you can't leave the scene, then return armed, and claim self defense.  Specifically, you can't retreat to arm, then later come back to stand your ground.

    Next, after the husband put his hands up, she shot at him anyway!  Luckily she missed.  Thats not a 'warning shot'.  Mind you, when you fire a gun, you are responsible for the bullet that leaves the barrel and anything it might hit afterwards.  Typically, the law frowns on warning shots in general, because while well intentioned as they may be:

    -its reckless.
    -you are only allowed to discharge your weapon in self defense, if you believe you are in imminent danger of great bodily harm or death.  

    If you are in the mindset to fire a warning shot (however noble it may be) you are not in a mindset where you feel you need to kill the other person to save yourself or a loved one, and that is a necessary condition for a successful self defense claim.

    Also, if somebody puts their hands up, you can't shoot them, because they ceased to be a threat.  SO self defense again goes out the window.

    Seriously, she belong up there in GunFail thread like the rest of the people who are reckless/negligent around firearms.  You can't run away to get a gun then run back armed to confront somebody.   You can't shoot at somebody with their hands up, because they cease to be a threat.  And you can't narrowly miss them (with their hands up) and claim it was a warning shot.  She got it wrong each and every step of the way, which is apparently why she was charged.

    Ironically, if she actually had her gun on her, then drew and fired on him right there in the bathroom where the incident allegedly occurred, she'd have a case under self defense and/or stand your ground.

    •  so, that is worth 20 years in prison? (7+ / 0-)

      No Fucking Way.

      This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

      by Karl Rover on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 08:25:04 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I had read that the most serious crime (2+ / 0-)
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      was that her "warning shot" had traveled through the wall and into a room with two minor children present who could have been killed. Is that true?

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 08:32:54 PM PDT

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    •  After She'd Given Birth A Few Days Earlier? (8+ / 0-)

      Rico is lucky to be alive. Other women would not be so tolerant

    •  One issue I have with your wording (5+ / 0-)
      If you are in the mindset to fire a warning shot (however noble it may be) you are not in a mindset where you feel you need to kill the other person to save yourself or a loved one
      I so utterly disagree with this. The way I see it, if you fire a warning shot, you feel that you are at the point where the person might kill you, and you are just hoping to scare that person away so you yourself do not have to be a killer. That's the whole point of a warning shot in the first place. It's to warn off someone you feel is a genuine threat to your life.

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 11:34:34 PM PDT

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      •  But this highlights the false security (2+ / 0-)
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        that underlies defensive use of a gun. A warning shot is an idea from the movies.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:07:34 AM PDT

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        •  No it's not (4+ / 0-)

          It's used in the military as well.

          Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

          by moviemeister76 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:16:16 AM PDT

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          •  A war zone is not the same scenario. (5+ / 0-)

            Your comparison is false.

            You cannot shoot a warning shot at anyone...what if she'd killed one of her own children?  

            Where would you be then on this issue?

            What if she killed an innocent pedestrian?

            Then what would you say?

            -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

            by gerrilea on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 07:53:41 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  Here's the thing: (2+ / 0-)

              She didn't kill ANYONE. That's the damn point. If she had killed anyone, then prosecute her for that.

              And this woman was in a war zone. What do you think being around an abusive boyfriend/husband is like for women?

              Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

              by moviemeister76 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 08:42:03 AM PDT

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              •  So... (4+ / 0-)
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                people who fire a handgun at other people shouldn't be charged with a crime?  The GunFail folks are just wasting everyone's time, and it's OK to discharge a firearm at somebody as long as you don't kill them?  It's ok to pull a gun and shoot at them as long as it's somebody you don't like?

                Attempted murder charges should go away, because the perp, as a matter of fact, didn't actually kill somebody?

                I get it.  Her estranged husband was a serial abuser and a dirtbag.  The laws are pretty clear though, about what happens if you shoot at somebody without justification.

                I understand her lawyer using SYG as a theroy of defense, because frankly, if the rest of the fact pattern is true she doesn't have a leg to stand on.  Thats why you hire a lawyer for in the first place, to do everything possible to protect you in court.

                But as lay people, trying to use a law that you abhor on principle, like SYG, as a twisted means of letting a person you empathize with off the hook is intellectually dishonest.  Especially when she failed to stand her groud in the first place.

            •  You don't imprison for "what if" (0+ / 0-)

              A driver talking on a cell phone killed my next door neighbor who was crossing the street in a pedestrian crossing.

              The driver was not charged with a criminal offense.

              You could go through life saying "what if" but you don't imprison people for a hypothetical. Otherwise you would take every person charged and convicted of DUI -- or talking on a cell phone while driving in California -- and put them in jail for 20 years based on your "what if" quandry.

              Sure, we were pissed that my neighbor was killed and the driver not charged with a criminal offense. The taking of a life is not hypothetical.

      •  most people see it your way. (3+ / 0-)
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        The law doesn't.

        Waving around a gun (so you don't have to fire it in self defense) will get arrested, because there are laws against it. Shooting a warning shot will get you arrested. Generally, however good your intentions, displaying or discharging a firearm to gain some kind of leverage in a dispute will only lead to incarceration.

        •  I understand the law (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Leslie Salzillo

          That's why I specifically did not address it. However, there's a big difference between what the law says and reality.

          Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

          by moviemeister76 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 08:44:07 AM PDT

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          •  youre right, there is. (3+ / 0-)
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            moviemeister76, PavePusher, 43north

            The laws says that if you absoutely, positively have to shoot somebody right now in order to save your life, you are justified as long as it passes the 'reasonabllity' standard (you were reasonably in fear of your life).  If you hesitate, and it's understandable that most people with a conscience would want to hesitate before taking a life, then you are no longer reasonably in fear of your life... if you have time to think about it, they have time not to kill you.  Complete moral dissonance with the law.

            The law says that if you owe money you can't afford to pay back, and receive forgiveness (i.e they forgive the balance or a portion of the balance of the loan), you are required to pay taxes on the amount forgiven as if it was actual income.  Mind you, if you weren't in a position to pay back the loan, you probably aren't in a position to pay taxes on imaginary income either.  More dissonance.

            The law says that you cannot assist a person in taking their own life, no matter how well the document their decision.  Yet if you think about it reasonably, shouldn't that be a personal choice?  and if so, shouldn't you be able to seek help doing so?

            The laws are what they are, until they're changed via the legislature or via the courts, and people as a whole do have some collective power in changing them.  Until they're changed, though, you have a choice.  Live by the law and deal with the moral repercussions, or live by your morals and face legal repercussions.  

            I don't pretend to have a very good answer as to which choice is appropriate.  Everyone has to make that decision for themselves.

    •  Please recognize that the testimony of the (2+ / 0-)
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      bobatkinson, Leslie Salzillo

      abuser is unreliable.

      He may or may not have done or said what he claims. He boasted in a deposition that he has children by 5 women and that he physically abuses 4 of the 5 women. The man is a classic abuser; expert at manipulating women and isolating his targets. Probably first with charm, and then later with violence, or by getting them pregnant.

      As long as he has custody of their child he can still control her.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:04:25 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  so what... (2+ / 0-)
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      elwior, Leslie Salzillo

      ...is it your turn do defend the RKBA orthodoxy.  Was JayinPA busy tonight or did you guys decide he muffed it.

      We Glory in war, in the shedding of human blood. What fools we are.

      by delver rootnose on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:48:28 AM PDT

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      •  Speaking only for myself (8+ / 0-)

        this is the first time I'd heard of "in the middle all by myself."

        Then again, I have no idea where I'm supposed to fit in the ranks of this supposed conspiracy to defend RKBA orthodoxy.

        ‎"Masculinity is not something given to you, but something you gain. And you gain it by winning small battles with honor." - Norman Mailer
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        by maxomai on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 06:47:54 AM PDT

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        •  Some people (9+ / 0-)

          do not understand the law, so they ignore what it says, and what the courts say, and substitute their own emotional take on what they feel it should say.

          "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

          by happy camper on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 07:45:30 AM PDT

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          •  Fuck the law. The law set Zimmerman free. The law (0+ / 0-)

            set OJ free, the law has is closing down abortion clinics and chipping away at women's rights.

            The law is wrong sometimes  - and this is definitely one time.

            And we are all human so emotions play a big part. Emotions are what created the law. There is so much bullshit on this thread I can hardly stand. Heartless bullshit.

            "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

            by Leslie Salzillo on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 05:19:01 PM PDT

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            •  All these people thought the same thing... (0+ / 0-)

              Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47

              Homeowner jailed for firing warning shot

              Do This and You May Go To Jail

              So, when it comes to a law you disagree with, you say "Fuck the law"...if any of us supporters of the entire Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment, we'd be called all sorts of names.  

              Reckless endangerment is punishable for a reason. It's one of those laws to keep us civil, to make us THINK BEFORE WE ACT!  

              You may not like the law, I know there are many laws I simply detest...but because I don't like it doesn't mean I won't be held accountable under it, sadly.

              BTW, the law didn't set Zimmerman free, the Prosecution wanted his head and they failed to get him convicted of anything....

              See where vengeance gets us???

              -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

              by gerrilea on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 07:22:42 PM PDT

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              •  Oh I see. The law didn't get Zimmerman a non- (1+ / 0-)
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                CcVenussPromise

                guilty verdict? But the 'law' did get Marissa a guilty verdict. Which is it? I guess when the 'law' works to your advantage, you'll all for it, yes? Sorry - but it gets to a point where I look down and I see certain names who are victim blaming... I no longer take them serious. Sadly, yours is one.

                "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

                by Leslie Salzillo on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:55:57 PM PDT

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                •  Hon, get over your faux moral indignation, its (0+ / 0-)

                  meaningless. The schoolyard arguments and one dimensional mentality doesn't change the facts.  Alexander broke the law, put her children and others in real danger by intentionally going to get a firearm to "scare" her abusive ex that was not a real threat to her.  At that moment she walked away from her ex, walked into the garage got her gun AND walked back, she was anything BUT a victim.  She falsely believed her gun could threaten and intimidate someone who was not a threat to her.

                  Did the law keep the drug laundering execs at HSBC from going to jail?  Did the law keep the Bush Crime Syndicate from being put in chains?  Did the law stop the criminals at Moody's et al from being prosecuted? Did the law prevent the torturers in the CIA from being held accountable while the true heroes, such as Manning, from going to jail?

                  NOPE.  The law doesn't stand alone in this nation.  PEOPLE, such as the idiot prosecutors in Zimmerman's case FAILED, not the law.  They failed because they wanted to sentence him to death.  Their zealotry is what stopped the law from being effective. The 30+ yrs of "being tough on crime" has lead this nation into incarcerating more people than any other on this planet, while making the shareholders of the Prison Industrial Complex rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

                  And just for your information, I survived a childhood of physical, mental and sexual abuse.  I witnessed, firsthand, what "blaming the victim" does to a family and those around them.  Upthread a poster here on DK attempted to use the words of a serial abuser as evidence to claim "justification" for Alexander's actions!

                  Truly disgusting!

                  Remember Bernhard Goetz? He still went to jail after believing he was going to be a victim again and using his gun! HIS actions lead to him losing $43 million dollars in civil suits to boot!

                  -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

                  by gerrilea on Sat Jul 20, 2013 at 01:42:21 AM PDT

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                •  My bad, it's you whom used the words of a serial (0+ / 0-)

                  abuser as "evidence" to justify Alexanders' dangerous actions.

                  Disgusting!

                  -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

                  by gerrilea on Sat Jul 20, 2013 at 01:46:16 AM PDT

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      •  Trying to drag (9+ / 0-)

        in old fights so you can start a new one? Naughty, naughty...

        "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

        by happy camper on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 07:46:25 AM PDT

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      •  please explain... (9+ / 0-)

        So if I jump on the bandwagon pleading for her release, I'm just another gun nut defending RKBA orthodoxy?

        And if I don't, instead explaining why her acts, however good intentioned they were, aren't excusable under law, that she indeed committed a crime and was charged accordingly... I'm somehow just another gun nut defending RKBA orthodoxy?

  •  Problem wih domestic violence (4+ / 0-)

    If he shows up 'just to talk' after a history of such talks leading to bodily harm to her, can she believe that the same thing isn't going to happen again?  If she leaves her house with him in it to call the police from a neighbor's house, can she be certain they will show up in a reasonable time?  If they do show up, can she expect them to arrest her abuser before he starts hitting or will they talk to him for a while and leave with him still in the house?  If he does 'just talk' and then leaves, how long before he shows up again in a mood to kick some female ass?  

    There is a big difference between a one-time confrontation and domestic violence.  The law and court in Florida doesn't seem to recognize that.

    Don't look back, something may be gaining on you. - L. "Satchel" Paige

    by arlene on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 01:22:32 AM PDT

  •  Angela Corey making Rico the victim (2+ / 0-)

    At the time Marissa was sentenced I could not understand Angelo Corey. She went after Marissa.

    She demanded and still demands that the case is about the boys in the home, it's bizarre.

    This is her response to the resurfacing of Marissa Alexander's case:

    “I think social media is going to be the destruction of this country,” Corey said. “How dare people just repeat something without checking it’s true.”
    Angela Corey’s Checkered Past
    But will Corey ever be disciplined for prosecutorial abuses? It’s unlikely. State attorneys cannot be brought before the bar while they remain in office. Complaints can be filed against Corey, but they will be deferred until she is no longer state attorney. The governor can remove her from office, but otherwise her position — and her license — are safe.

    A good horse is never a bad color.

    by CcVenussPromise on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 02:13:56 AM PDT

  •  From his deposition: (2+ / 0-)

    "The only thing you said was , 'If I can't have you nobody can?'" :   response(Rico): "Yeah".  
    If you were in a room, alone with a repeat abuser, and he says these words to you, what would you do?  Remain perfectly calm and rational, lock yourself in a room, scream for help?  Thinking perhaps that even if the other person left, the threat of death, perhaps, may be undiminished, at least in your mind, if not in fact.  What would you do, in that moment?
    So easy to sit in the comfort of our air conditioned rooms,  computer before us, typing out theoretical scenarios and reasonable responses that lead to just and lawful resolution.
    These are real people, in a real world, where people suffer permanent injury or death, at the hands of sometimes benign, sometimes extremely violent and unpredictable individuals.  In the movies, the actors follow the script.  In the real world, you are live, and you want to survive.  
    Reckless use of a firearm?  Ok.  20 years in prison?  What about those thousands of reckless discharges of firearms, yearly, that injure or kill family or friends, or strangers--oops, it was an accident, or?  What kind of fine, jail time, or reprimand is being given out for these violations?  

  •  I am sickened to see the same posse of people (2+ / 0-)
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    (adding a few each time), come on to this diary thread, as with other diaries about Marissa, to blame a woman for firing a warning shot to defend herself - rather than kill him.

    Thousands of women are in jail right now for killing their abusive spouses in order to defend themselves. They are there because they couldn't prove they acted in self-defense. Most are there because they are women. Many are there because they are black women and/or women of minority.

    I'm curious, how many here blaming Marissa, the 'pac' of 5-10,  are males and how many are females? How many have been in an abusive relationship?

    It doesn't matter how smart you are when it comes to being sucked in by an abuser like Gray. Marissa has a Master's Degree and no prior record - Anyone is susceptible to a monster like him. He's a sociopath and his kind will charm the pants  off anyone to gain control. He said above, the only time she would fight back was to get him off of her?

    Read his deposition, read his ex-wife's letter, read her mother's letter and the other letters from those who witnessed his abuse, read that statistics, watch the Keira 'Cut' clip, watch the interviews and discussions... and then tell me she's guilty and deserves to be in jail even one day. And if you still can, I am sickened by you.

    Alexander used her best judgment in trying to get away from a very sick man capable of doing anything at the time, and who probably would have killed her. She knew this.

    Any man who will stomp on, and kick a pregnant woman in the stomach, is an animal. He should be in jail.

    This is victim blaming..

    That is what this is - by a gang here. Where is J? I keep seeing he same names, and you add a few each time. Why should I be surprised to see misogyny exists within the Daily Kos community? There are hundreds of thousands of members, so of course there will be some who are anti-women/anti-women's rights. ....and for most of the pac, it seems to be about gun control. You are afraid if this story gets too big, guns in the home will be brought up. We're not stupid. How many of you in the pac are also in NRA?

    Thank God you are in the minority. Marissa Alexander will be free soon, with 'time served', and she will never get that time back with her children. But she will have the support of millions, because my stories, diaries, blogs and those of others, are going to every domestic violence groups we can find, every Occupy group, every Anonymous group... The Keira Cut clip I did a story on has been viewed by close to half a million in only a couple of weeks. Marissa will find some satisfaction that she helped other women in similar plights, because even after her release, this discussion will continue.

    This case is not going to get swept under the rug. Americans  will not let her get lost in the shuffle. So be prepared to see many more diaries about this case. And I'm sure we will see the same victim blamers each time... give or take a few.

    "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

    by Leslie Salzillo on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 10:57:39 AM PDT

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