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According to multiple sources approximately 4 years ago Federal agents initiated  a project to collect private information on everyone that lives in the United States including their addresses and relatives.  This information is obviously being collected in case they need to hunt you down and kill you.  

Not only did they collect your name and address.  They also got the names of everyone that lived in the same address, their relationship to you, parents' names, children's names, your date of birth, your income and much more private information that most people are not even aware of.  They then put all of this information into a database so that they could analyze it for their nefarious purposes.  They don't even bother getting a FISA judge to issue a rubber stamp warrant whenever they access the personal information gathered.

According to Sarah Noyabah-Stoored, "If the government ever decided that it was going to kill me, all it would have to do is look me up and they have my address.  I can't even try running away because they will just grab my loved ones and hold them hostage in GITMO since Obama didn't force Congress to cough up the money they specifically denied to execute the Executive Order he issued in the first week of his Presidency.  A future government might rescind his other Executive Orders that shut down extraordinary renditions and enhanced interrogations on them until I turn myself in to stop the government from harming my family."

There are some that claim that the Constitution is ok with this information being collected.  They are obviously sellouts or fools.  You must write your Congressman and Insist that they shut down the Census Bureau and destroy their database before it is too late and call on them to never do it again.

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  •  LOL (6+ / 0-)

    "Tax cuts for the 1% create jobs." -- Republicans, HAHAHA - in China

    by MartyM on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 02:40:38 AM PDT

  •  just to be on the safe side, now I always sign (1+ / 0-)
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    PSzymeczek

    myself, I. W. Harper

    We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

    by Lepanto on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:01:23 AM PDT

  •  not LOL/ Some of us do't even want that much info (0+ / 0-)

    on ourselves out there. The Constitution calls for a head count. It does not require me to tell how many bathrooms we have or whether or not I'm friendly with my sister or any personal details like that. We have slid down the slope into that, and yes, perhaps the future people will be glad the same way we use Ancestrydotcom now, but that doesn't mean that everyone out here is happy about it. Some of us don't facebook, don't use cell phones, etc., on purpose.

    We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

    by nuclear winter solstice on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:03:58 AM PDT

    •  All of that information is already recorded (2+ / 0-)
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      This snark diary was mainly about a diary that claimed to be Breaking news on the NSA being able to track cell phones.  The problem with that is it wouldn't have been breaking news 4 years ago when the Census was being taken.  During the Clinton Administration a drone cruise missile was fired at Bin Laden that almost took him out when he was pinpointed making a phone call.  They triangulated on his single and used that as the location for the strike.

      It has been known that phones with internal GPS allow anyone to track the person since they first came out years ago.  The hack to activate the GPS on the phone remotely was widely published about 4 years ago.  Anybody can track where a cell phone is, not just the Government.  Labeling a diary as Breaking is disingenuous at the very least.

      As for the Census data being collected.  It is required that the Government do it every 10 years by the US Constitution.  It is not required that anybody fill it out.  All questions answered by someone are completely done so by their choice.

      A person's character is measured by how they treat everyone. Not just your pet group.

      by Tempus Figits on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:49:29 AM PDT

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      •  actually, it is required (1+ / 0-)
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        Refusal to answer any question on a census form is punishable by a fine of up to $100. I have never heard of this fine actually being imposed -- which, given libertarians' great umbrage at the census and American Community Survey, makes me doubt that it happens. But filling out the form isn't a matter of unfettered choice.

        "I am not sure how we got here, but then, I am not really sure where we are." --Susan from 29

        by HudsonValleyMark on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 04:22:39 AM PDT

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        •  My understanding was that only pertained... (2+ / 0-)
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          to your name, dob and residency status and 2 other stats I can't pull off the top of my head right now.  Also that you could refuse to take the census.

          However, in researching the answer to make sure, I went to the Census website and found I was in error.  I can understand requiring certain information to make for a proper tabulation of the population but agree that some of the questions, while still useful information, should not be necessary.

          A person's character is measured by how they treat everyone. Not just your pet group.

          by Tempus Figits on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 04:34:32 AM PDT

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          •  it's an interesting issue (2+ / 0-)
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            As someone who actually uses those data sometimes (aggregated, of course!), I want them to be as complete as possible. I think the government has a legitimate interest in collecting them, and that provides some warrant for mandates and threatened fines. Philosophically, I'd be just as happy to pay people to complete the forms, although that probably wouldn't work as well. I certainly wouldn't want non-compliance to be criminalized. And the security of census data is an absolutely legit topic -- as well as the subject of libertarian fever dreams.

            "I am not sure how we got here, but then, I am not really sure where we are." --Susan from 29

            by HudsonValleyMark on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 06:17:33 AM PDT

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      •  Your example is telling. (5+ / 0-)

        Clinton didn't hit OBL with that cruise missile.  Targeting by cellphone will frequently cause you to miss the person you're aiming at (even if you believe aiming at that person might be a defensible idea) and to hit other people, often innocent people.  Indeed, the really, really bad guys that one would think we'd be most intent on killing are precisely those who'd know not to have their cellphones on them, for precisely the reason that they will make them targets.

        You can snark all you want.  You can even be so benighted as to think snooping on everybody is just peachy keen.  And you can believe against all moral reasoning that sending demonstrably poorly-targeting explosives into distant lands from your comfy seat in southern California is an appropriate use of US resources.  Most of the world would disagree with you, but who cares about them, right?  You have snark that needs to be posted.

        •  Please show me where I stated or implied... (0+ / 0-)

          that shooting a missile at someone in order to kill them was good policy.

          Oh and while your at it.  Please tell me how information that is over a decade old is considered to be Breaking.

          A person's character is measured by how they treat everyone. Not just your pet group.

          by Tempus Figits on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 05:07:58 AM PDT

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          •  With this diary you are lampooning another... (4+ / 0-)

            ...that was precisely about targeting cellphone users with missiles.  You are making fun of that notion, dismissing its import.  Take responsibility for your choices.  Don't weasel away from their consequences.

            •  No, I am making fun of someone posting Breaking (3+ / 0-)

              when it isn't even close.

              I am making fun of the fact that YOU, the person that posted that diary, the people that have been spamming multiple similar diaries have your heads so far up your posteriors that you can't recognize that people agree that the NSA has gone to far but that you treat them as enemies because you can't stop insulting them with hyperbole or when they point out that it is hyperbole simply insult them.  

              You arguments are fatally flawed, to the point where you are doing your cause (and mine as well) irreparable harm.  The incredibly sad thing is that if I hadn't labeled this as snark, a good many people would not have been able to tell the difference.   These diaries don't need parodies because they already are.  And when people try to explain that, they are lumped into the enemies bucket.

              That at the rate it is going, there are going to be a lot of people banned.  Not because the Admins disagree that the NSA's activities need to be severely curtailed but because you are driving people away and turning them against you.  That you can't understand that there are multiple priorities on this site and that tearing down potential allies will only leave you alone and your cause will die and it will be YOUR FAULT!

              A person's character is measured by how they treat everyone. Not just your pet group.

              by Tempus Figits on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:08:54 AM PDT

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  •  The conspiracy's bigger than that (4+ / 0-)
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    It goes all the way back to the founding of the United States.  They've been watching us, waiting, planning....

    Cynicism is what passes for insight among the mediocre.

    by Sky Net on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:12:54 AM PDT

  •  How silly. There is more information (5+ / 0-)

    freely available on your families on Ancestry.com than what the government might ever decide it wants or needs.

    "We have cast our lot with something bigger than ourselves" - President Obama, July 30, 2010

    by Overseas on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:16:10 AM PDT

  •  Noted at the time (0+ / 0-)

    And the information has effectively been used to kill people, namely the Japanese-Americans of California were in part located via census data and in WW2 transported into concentration camps in places with unfortunate meteorology, which undoubtedly through stress did kill some number of the very old.

    You may have intended snark, but you spoke the truth.

    Restore the Fourth! Save America!

    by phillies on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 03:38:39 AM PDT

  •  Wait! There's more! (7+ / 0-)

    The Government also collects data on every penny you earn or spend! They get VERY nosy about it EVERY YEAR in April! They want to know where you work, for whom, how much you are paid, including benefits (if you get any), what you invest in, who you are married to, who your kids are and whether you send them to college, how much you owe and how much you own your house, if your parents support you or you support them...
    Not only that, they want a piece of it! And you can't say no.
    And don't try to ignore them or lie or hide it (unless your income is over 6 digits) because they will come and grab you and put you in JAIL!

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 04:30:53 AM PDT

  •  I have no problem with the government... (4+ / 0-)
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    ....collecting information about my relatives in order to kill then.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 04:50:48 AM PDT

    •  I can only think of one. (2+ / 0-)
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      Not really sure he would still be considered a relative.  

      My ex-wife's father had a monstrously perverted idea of what a proper father daughter relationship was.  Starting before she was in her teens.

      A person's character is measured by how they treat everyone. Not just your pet group.

      by Tempus Figits on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 05:16:17 AM PDT

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  •  They'll never find me, no number on my mailbox (1+ / 0-)
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    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 05:56:40 AM PDT

  •  Hah! I've moved since then. No way they'll (2+ / 0-)
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    Diogenes2008, Catte Nappe

    find me for another 7 years (unless you count DMV, IRS, and all that other stuff)!

    With the Decision Points Theater, the George W. Bush Presidential Library becomes the very first Presidential Library to feature a Fiction Section.

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 06:02:15 AM PDT

  •  Seriously Funny n/t (3+ / 0-)

    Too Folk For You. - Schmidting in the Punch Bowl - verb - Committing an unexpected and underhanded political act intended to "spoil the party."

    by TooFolkGR on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 06:09:50 AM PDT

  •  funny (0+ / 0-)

    cue the people that will miss the tags of this diary...

    The sequester is the new Republican immigration reform plan. Make things so bad here in the US that no one will want to live here.

    by Mote Dai on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 06:13:46 AM PDT

  •  OMIGOD! I IZ A-SKEERED! I THINK I HEARZ A DRONE! (0+ / 0-)

    The totalitarian, fascist state war machine HAZ OUR NAMES?????   Now you've done it!  Now it's a drone strike for the lot of us, for sure!   Omigod omigod omigod!

  •  And the phone company is part of it, too (2+ / 0-)

    I was at a government agency once and the local telephone company was delivering thick books (in alphabetical order) of people who have land lines. Amazing! These "telephone books" list your name, address, and land line number. I'm glad I only have a cell phone.

    /snark

    "Stupid just can't keep its mouth shut." -- SweetAuntFanny's grandmother.

    by Dbug on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 09:05:14 AM PDT

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