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A BBC reporter lets loose with the truth regarding the round-the-clock royal baby coverage:

UPDATE: But he was wrong! The baby was born. So the next not-really-news will be breathlessly waiting to learn its name.

Originally posted to Scout Finch on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 12:20 PM PDT.

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  •  Is dKos going wall to wall with (3+ / 0-)
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    Royal Baby Coverage?

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 12:23:39 PM PDT

  •  hey there Georgy girl (6+ / 0-)
    A FLOOD of last-minute bets on Britain's royal baby are pouring in even as Prince William's wife Catherine is in hospital in labour.

    Most of the money was going on the name of the third-in-line to the throne, with one bookie suspending betting on the subject.

    "The money really is pouring in. We have taken about 30,000 pounds ($50,000) in the last three hours. It's unbelievable," Rory Scott, a spokesman for Irish bookmakers Paddy Power, told AFP.

    "The majority of that is on the name. We have suspended betting on the date."

    Speculation that the baby is a girl, based on a misheard comment by Kate in March, means girls' names are most popular with the punters.

    "There is a clear view that the baby will be a girl so there is lots of activity around girls' names," a spokeswoman for British betting firm William Hill told AFP.

    "Alexandra and Charlotte are the most popular."

    Other favoured names are Diana, William's mother's name; Elizabeth, after the current queen; and Victoria, after Britain's longest reigning monarch.

    Those who think the baby will be a boy have plumped for George and James.

    James is the name of Kate's brother but George has been the favourite "from day one", say the bookies.

    Bookies say they have taken more than 1 million pounds in total on what they have called the biggest novelty (non-sporting) market of all time.

    Bets have come in from around the world with one Austrian man placing 1000 pounds on a male baby.

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    by annieli on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 12:30:27 PM PDT

    •  I think they should name the baby (3+ / 0-)
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      after me .....

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      by Da Rock on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 01:38:19 PM PDT

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    •  Minor Constitutional Issue (9+ / 0-)

      A future King James would be the first monarch, since the Anglo Scottish union in 1707, to have a higher Scottish than English succession number. Under present arrangements he would be King James VIII not King James III.

      Queen Elizabeth II is the first Elizabeth to reign over Scotland, so there was some fuss about that in the 1950s.

      The Prince of Wales, if he succeeds, may choose to be King Charles III or King George VII (using his first or last name). Either would be the same succession number in England and Scotland.

      Prince William on the other hand would be King William V. Scotland has had one less King William than England, but the one Scotland missed was King William III. William of Orange was King William III of England and the II of Scotland. The next King William was William IV of the United Kingdom.

      I would have thought George was the more likely regnal name for the new Prince. However the personal name an heir uses is not always the one used as King.

      There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

      by Gary J on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 02:30:11 PM PDT

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      •  I choose Bertie or Thomas (2+ / 0-)
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        I know that's like saying George.
        What about Spencer, King Spencer.
        That sounds cool I like that.
        Spencer Thomas George, that's my pick.

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        by nellgwen on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:51:18 PM PDT

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      •  I think I speak for most Americans (1+ / 0-)
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        Gary J

        when I say I have no idea what you are talking about.

        Oh, I am sure this has something to do with England and Scotland being separate countries(?) but still both part of the UK.

        It's all confusing to the colonist, but pip pip, cherrio and all that.

        •  Telling monarchs aoart (3+ / 0-)
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          Let me try and explain the custom. To tell apart monarchs from the same country, with the same name, it is customary to number them and write the appropriate roman numeral after the name.

          It is similar to the practice in some American families. For example Senator Rockefeller is John D. Rockefeller IV.

          England and Scotland were independent Kingdoms before 1707 (although they shared the same monarch from 1603, when the sixth King James of Scotland became the first King James of England). The early 17th century King James is sometimes referred to as King James I and VI to indicate that the number is different in the two Kingdoms.

          After 1707 there has been a united kingdom. English practice, which Winston Churchill made the explicit policy of the UK government in 1953, was to number post 1707 monarchs using the higher number if the Scottish and English numbers were not the same.

          Scottish opinion on the matter differed. Thus when the present Queen inherited the throne, many Scots did not want her to be known as Queen Elizabeth the second. The court case arguing the point was lost, but the UK government has been somewhat sensitive on the point. Post boxes, in the UK, traditionally had the royal monogram put on them (EIIR - Elizabeth II Regina - in England, but just ER in Scotland). This followed some vandalism in Scotland early in the current reign.

          There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

          by Gary J on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 11:45:36 PM PDT

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  •  Bob Garfield from "On the Media" (9+ / 0-)

    went to GB to see how Britains felt about the Royal birth. Most of the populace he spoke with could have cared less. Americans are getting it rammed down their throats by the Media here. But I guess they're just giving Americans what they want. If we love the Royal family so much, why did we bother having that Revolution?? We could've stayed part of Great Britain, gotten rid of slavery a lot quicker without a war and had universal health care for 60 years now...Oh well...

  •  And you guys think your democracy is broken... (6+ / 0-)

    A day of news that included an earthquake in china and even the bbc is fawning over the birth of a future unelected head of state

    Am really ashamed to be British


    by mb6578 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 12:50:12 PM PDT

  •  He got it wrong (3+ / 0-)
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    the news was actually released by Kensington Palace, Kate and Williams home as an electronic press release. Ironically it was couple of minutes after your post (it's a boy) Later the formal announcement was taken to Buck House and posted on a gilded easel at the gates.

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    by Lib Dem FoP on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 01:01:31 PM PDT

  •  Here's a sobering thought: (7+ / 0-)

    It was our obsession with this child's grandmother, and our demand for press coverage of her, that he doesn't get to meet her.

    •  I thought about her today, (7+ / 0-)

      as I'm sure many people did.  Damn shame William doesn't have his mom around to meet her new grandson.  Whatever her faults and foibles, trials and tribulations, she loved her boys - they were her heart and soul.  

      She bucked tradition with many things when it came to their upbringing - more power to her for wanting to be a hands on mom, and not leave it all to nannies and nurses.  It seems her son learned from that - he's already pretty involved as a dad and he's a much more attentive hubby than his own dad.  I'm glad he stood up for himself and his girlfriend / fiancee / wife - didn't let her get railroaded the way they did to his mom.  

      William and Catherine seem much more like normal people having a baby - it's just all the hoopla because of his family tree that's making a spectacle out of it.  I hope they get to keep as much of their privacy as they have since the wedding. They should just be able to be new parents enjoying their new baby without everybody freaking out about it.  Sure, we can all be "delighted" like the Queen - new babies are good things, but the all day news coverage has been extreme.  

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      by Ricochet67 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 06:39:57 PM PDT

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  •  Long live the Queen/King n/t (4+ / 0-)
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    by Mr Robert on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:36:21 PM PDT

  •  Potential Names (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm hoping for Joffrey, personally.

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    by Lonely Liberal in PA on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:39:49 PM PDT

  •  I am so happy to greet a cousin (2+ / 0-)
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    his grandmother, Lady Di and I share a 15th great-grandmother AND a separate 16th great grandmother.

  •  All this fuss over a little boy... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...that isn't likely to ascend to the throne for another 50 to 70 years. Think about that a moment people.  ;-)

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    by craigkg on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:53:15 PM PDT

    •  Well Charles is going to be King for about (2+ / 0-)
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      5 minutes and then it's going to William.
      The baby might be a dad before he would get to be king, probably older than William now.
      Long lives run in that family.

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      by nellgwen on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 07:58:06 PM PDT

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      •  Precisely! (3+ / 0-)
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        The equivalent for us on this side of the pond would be us glued to our TVs to watch the debate between a 3 year old and an unborn fetus as the two candidates for the 2064 Presidential election.

        With that family's genes in general (See Queen Victoria, George III, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, QEII, etc) and improved medicine and health, it could seriously be 70 years before he'll get to the throne. I mean the only Windsors to really die "young" were the ones that chain smoked like crazy (eg Edward VIII age 77, George VI age 56, Princess Margaret age 71).

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        by craigkg on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 08:12:30 PM PDT

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      •  If the Queen lives as long as her mother (0+ / 0-)

        And doesn't abdicate

        Then Charlie would be about 78 by the time he gets to the throne.

        Of course that would be partially offset by the fact that, if she were to live that long, my guess is that he'd already have taken over much of her duties and responsibilities so he'd be King in everything but name

  •  Cooked a perfectly grill-marked... (2+ / 0-)
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    by justiceputnam on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 08:08:34 PM PDT

  •  I was born... (0+ / 0-)

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    by justiceputnam on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 08:10:45 PM PDT

  •  I don't fault the BBC for caring (1+ / 0-)
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    They are, after all, the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation, and that baby is more likely than not going to grow up to become Britain's ceremonial head of state.

    I will, however, mock the hell out of the US media for caring.

  •  Didn't 'Merica fight a revolution (0+ / 0-)

    So we didn't have to care about royal babies?!?

    /snark off

    I'm in favor of the name Alexander; still sounds regnal, and it'd be a new name!

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    by Gygaxian on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 09:32:34 PM PDT

    •  No it wouldn't (3+ / 0-)
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      He'd be Alexander IV of the UK. Scotland had three Kings named Alexander and under a new protocol adopted after Elizabeth came to the throne, the regnal name will take the higher numeral of that name's history in England, Scotland, and the UK since the union. Likewise if they were to name him Robert, he'd be Robert IV since Scotland had three King Roberts and would be Malcolm V if they chose Malcolm. I just wonder if the new protocol applies to the prior Kings and Princes of the Welsh kingdoms and principalities. Anyone for Llywelyn IV, Jacob (Iago) III or Cadwallon III? Something tells me Llywelyn ap Gwilym ap Siarl ap Bethan won't be on William and Kate's list even if the royal couple is living just a stone throw from the ancient seat of the Princes of Gwynedd at Aberffraw on Anglesey.

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      by craigkg on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 10:02:59 PM PDT

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      •  Ah, I didn't know the Scottish rule (1+ / 0-)
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        Alexander IV is still pretty good. I wonder if there's any fairly plausible regnal names without a number? I mean, I'm all in favor of regnal numerals and all, but I think the British monarchs should switch it up a bit.

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        by Gygaxian on Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 11:31:08 PM PDT

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        •  A few names that may fit the bill (2+ / 0-)
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          Andrew: despite being the patron saint of Scotland, England, Scotland and the UK have never had a King Andrew and Prince Philip's farther was named Andrew, but that would cause confusion with the baby's great uncle, the Duke of York.

          Arthur: The once and future King's name from the legendary king of Celtic lore. Several princes have bore the name as their forename, most recently the Duke of Connaught, son of Queen Victoria. One of William's middle names is Arthur.

          Leopold: Another name of a son of Victoria. The name is plausible as a royal name. It has been borne by several Belgian kings (including Victoria's uncle) and Habsburg Holy Roman Emperors.

          Albert: Several princes have had this as their forename, but none have ended up using it as their regnal name. Both Edward VII and George VI had it has their forename, but chose not to take it, Edward out of respect for his mother's grief over her husband Prince Albert and George VI out of concern it was too Germanic in the lead up to conflict with Nazi Germany. Albert was also the name of Diana's grandfather.

          Ernest & Frederick: Both have been regnal names in other dominions (Brunswick, the Saxony duchies/kingdom, Prussia, Denmark, Hessian duchies, etc) and been served as forenames for British princes in the past.

          Philip: The baby's great grandfather's name, husband of the Queen.

          Christian: A common name for kings in Denmark. Queen Alexandra (wife of Edward VII) was a Danish Princess, daughter of Christian IX of Denmark.

          Francis: A few Kings of France have been named Francis. The name has been borne by two sovereign "British" Dukes, albeit of Lesser Britain (aka Brittany, now part of France). It has been the name of two subsequent Jacobite Kings of England and Scotland (Francis, Duke of Modena and the incumbent Jacobite king, Franz, Duke of Bavaria) and of the father of Queen Mary (wife of George V).

          Louis: another of William's middle names, and a frequently found name among the kings of France.

          John: There has been one King John of England (signed Magna Carta), but several Earls Spencer have been named John. But it was also the name of Edward VIII and George VI's epileptic youngest brother.

          Michael: name of a few Byzantine emperors, a czar of Russia and the King of Romania (who is a GG Grandson of Queen Victoria). The younger son of the 1st Duke of Kent (brother of Edward VIII and George VI) is Prince Michael, so there is a (living) Windsor with the name.

          Pretty much any of these would "switch it up a bit."

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          by craigkg on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55:15 AM PDT

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          •  Leo (0+ / 0-)

            Someone said that the child would be a Leo, meaning astrological sign, and that name has stuck in my head ever since.  I'm not sure if he was actually born under that sign, as there are conflicting reports.  It only makes sense if he was.

            Thanks for your info craigkg!  I'm overjoyed that this baby prince was safely delivered and am enjoying every bit of related coverage.  Listening now to the bells of Westminster celebrating.

  •  As we say in the old country.... (0+ / 0-)


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    by MrQA on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 04:36:03 AM PDT

  •  "Plenty more to come from here of course, (0+ / 0-)

    none of it news! ... But that won't stop us."

    Are you sure he's not talking about Fox or CNN instead of the BBC. That would describe Wolfie on CNN (and many many others) to a tee.

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    by dewtx on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 08:18:26 AM PDT

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