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JC Penney, which has been a Progressive Hero for its support of LGBT Equality, has lost its way.

They have decided to side with Rahm Emanuel, Arne Duncan, and the corporate privatizers of Public Education:

JC Penney wants its customers to support Teach For America

Now, there have been a lot of diaries here talking about TFA and what they do and don't do for kids in schools. And about how they only do their two year stint and then become "experts" in "education reform" and set policy.  Like Michelle Rhee.

Well, it turns out that TFA is also SCABS for America.

Chicago just laid off over 2000 teachers and support staff.  And yet, they INCREASED the budget for TFA, and at least 100 of those laid off VETERAN teacher positions will go to these TFA people with only five weeks of "training".

From a Chicago Sun-Times article (The article is paywalled, but this excerpt is from Diane Ravitch's blog):

“Some of the teachers could be replaced by Teach For America recruits, as the district has committed to more than doubling its investment in the TFA program that trains college graduates for five weeks then sends them into schools for two years at a time. The Board of Education voted to increase its payment to TFA from $600,000 to nearly $1.6 million, and to add up to 325 new TFA recruits to CPS classrooms, in addition to 270 second year “teacher interns”.

TFA spokeswoman Becky O’Neill said about 200 of the new recruits are destined for charters, the rest to interview for openings in neighborhood schools.

Wendy Kopp talks a slick game with her "educational inequality" and "ensuring all children have access to a quality education", but we know it's all about the money.

Now what to do about it?

I think JC Penney has no clue about what TFA is really about.  I think they've bought into the slick presentation by Ms. Kopp, and the endorsements by people like Rahm and Arne Duncan.

I think they need to be educated.  The Badass Teachers are already on it, but I think they also need to hear from non-teachers.  Like Kossacks, who supported them so well when they refused to dump Ellen DeGeneres and even made MORE ads using families with same sex parents.

Now, this particular link goes to a program from last year.  However, JC Penney frequently uses the same partners in its "Round it up" campaigns.  And it's a safe bet that TFA will be on the docket coming up soon.

So while they support worthy causes, TFA is NOT one of them.  It's time to let them know that what they're supporting is the corporate takeover and destruction of public education. It's time to let them know that the group they're supporting is causing veteran Master Teachers to be fired and be replaced by people with only a 5 week training program.

Would you trust your life with a surgeon with only 5 weeks of training?

Then why would you trust your children with a teacher with only 5 weeks of training?

They need to know that there is a price to pay for supporting Teach For America.

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Their facebook page is getting lit up.

It is, of course, your choice whether or not to boycott.  After all, we rewarded them for doing the right thing, and they should be punished for doing the wrong thing.  And I honestly think that they don't know the truth about TFA. But they definitely do need to hear our displeasure at their support of a SCAB organization like TFA.

A sample letter to send:

Your recent support of Teach for America is unacceptable. This is an organization that actively harms students by placing unqualified teachers in schools that would most benefit from experienced veteran teachers. This is an organization that poses the following serious problems:

1. It destroys the mentoring and relationship building that lifetime teachers provide.
2. It creates a revolving door teaching force that undermines the
role of schools as community institutions.
3. It reduces instruction to test prep since the 5 week training TFAers get makes raising test scores the highest priority and includes cookie cutter, "teacher proof" advice on class management that leaves little room for the creativity that great teachers employ.

No matter what TFA leaders say, its methods lead to the destruction of public education as we have known it in the United States, and the emergence of alternative model which makes the union teacher and the lifetime educator an endangered species. It's implementation will also sharply widen gaps between those in private schools and public schools, and between high income and moderate/ low income communities, in terms of creative thinking and exposure to the arts, reinforcing and intensifying the nation's status as one of the most economically stratified societies in the world.

The supporters and administration of this organization have been involved in multiple, well documented cheating and pay-for-play scandals in Washington D.C., Atlanta, and other districts. Urban, minority students are used as guinea pigs and stepping stones as these predominately white, middle-to-upper class recruits pad their résumés. JC Penney should really be more careful about the groups that they choose to support.

Sincerely,

Your Name

We are not going away.  We will not be silent.  We are Legion.  And We are Badass.

Originally posted to zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 07:30 AM PDT.

Also republished by Chicago Kossacks.

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  •  Republished to Chicagi Kossacks. n/t (4+ / 0-)

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 07:36:41 AM PDT

  •  I'm not quite sure when it became (24+ / 0-)

    all the fashion to disrespect teachers,
    but as a former, I find it appalling.

    My daughter--who already has a bachelors degree--
    is back in school to get certified to teach.
    She took out student loans, and had to cut back
    her hours at work in order to achieve this goal.

    Meanwhile, we know someone who is in the TFA program--
    and after a month-long seminar, she will doing what it
    will take my daughter another year to do:

    teach.  And TFA has gotten a teaching job already!

    Daughter is incredulous and disheartened,
    to say the least.

    I told her that she should look into following a lawyer or
    a dentist around for a month....
    and then she could just Be A Lawyer/Dentist.

    That's about how much sense the TFA program
    makes to me.

    Everyone thinks they can do a teacher's job--
    until they try to do it.  
    Which is probably why JCP thinks supporting this
    is such a spiffy idea.

  •  It Is Immoral How Teachers Are Laid Off (8+ / 0-)

    that have been teaching for decades just because they have a decent salary and for the state to hire teachers out of school who don't make shit.  Despicable, immoral, and should be grounds for discrimination.  I would never vote for Rahm Emanuel ever for Mayor.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 07:52:21 AM PDT

  •  And Chicago is not the only city where veteran (4+ / 0-)

    teachers have been fired only to be replaced with TFA scabs.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 07:56:02 AM PDT

  •  My letter to JCP (5+ / 0-)

    Dear JC Penny,

    I have been a loyal customer for years but I will no longer shop in your stores now that you support Teach for America.  Teach for America puts the worst, unqualified teacher temps in the schools that need good teachers the most.  It costs schools more to hire a TFA with 5 weeks of training than a first year teacher who has done observation and student teaching and has a degree in education and the subject and age they are teaching.

    When TFA started they claimed to provide temp teachers for areas that could not find qualified, experienced  teachers.  That is no longer true.  Many qualified teachers apply for every vacancy.  I can only assume that you are against working people and against good education for all students.  I hope your TFA teachers shop in your store because I won’t anymore.

  •  Okay, so I feel torn here. JCP defended its (5+ / 0-)

    contract with Ellen DeGeneres, and admirably so.  I shopped there and sent them a message about why I was shopping there, precisely because they stood up for a good principle in keeping Ellen.

    Here it's doing something I disagree with.  They can't please everyone all the time, though.  I feel torn.  I want to keep shopping from time to time at JCP (like when I need some basic tees, for example) to show thanks for their support of Ellen.  What, am I to turn around and punish the company that is doing something praiseworthy simultaneously?

    TFA is evil.  I have personal experience with a TFA activist that left me shuddering and convinced of how insidious the organization is.  But I just don't feel I can punish JCP for supporting it.  I still want to thank them for keeping on with Ellen.

    That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

    by concernedamerican on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 08:15:08 AM PDT

  •  One has nothing to do with other (3+ / 0-)
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    zenbassoon, brae70, Rick Aucoin

    Most big corporations have no problem supporting liberal social issues because it's a tangential issue for them.  Their economic agenda is what matters.

    http://www.buonoforgovernor.com/

    by Paleo on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 08:17:46 AM PDT

  •  There's a mythology TFA (8+ / 0-)

    and its supporters are pushing that is, literally, 10 years or more out of date.

    The mythology arose during a time when the "achievement gap" was being explored, by politicians whose careers were staked on "finding reasons" for low educational outcomes of poor kids in minority areas. It was a very worthy question to ask, but those asking the question, reached entirely the wrong answer. Namely, what should have been blamed for low educational outcomes is poverty and inadequate economic opportunities. What actually got blamed, is "lazy, incompetent, selfish" teachers.

    What came out of that rhetoric of teacher-blame, was TFA and the romance of sending bright kids just out of college to "make a difference" in urban schools, where "veteran teachers had failed."

    But the rosy fairytale seems more and more dated today. Michelle Rhee has more and more critics, her test scores don't look quite as glowing, and she isn't the exalted figure she was.

    The big Hollywood movie on the subject, the one with Maggie Gyllenhaal, totally bombed. More and more, it seems teacher blame is being rejected.  

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 08:23:43 AM PDT

  •  WOAH (2+ / 0-)
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    zenbassoon, Sparhawk

    I'm sorry, you might not like some people who came from TFA, or policies in Chicago, but the people who sign up for TFA are good people in general.

    My friend, who is now teaching in San Antonio, had her life threatened, had bosses who didn't care, no resources, students with families who were worse than non-existant and she still worked her ass off every day and did her damn best, when no one else was willing to work with those kids at that school.

    •  so in conclusion (0+ / 0-)

      good for JC Penny for supporting TFA, more people should become teachers, and qualified teachers should be in low income schools.

    •  As do most of the regularly credentialed (5+ / 0-)

      teachers, and the senior teachers who were laid off to make room for TFA staff.

      The kids who sign up for TFA are good people. It's the organization that's misguided at best and corrupt at worst.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

      The other problem is the wasted investment a school makes in a teacher who leaves after just a few years. Sadly, I’m a poster child for this. I remember my last day at my school in Colorado, as I made the rounds saying goodbye to veteran teachers, my friends and colleagues who had provided me such crucial support and mentorship. As I talked of my plans for law school in Chicago, and they bade me best wishes, I felt an overwhelming wave of guilt. Their time and energy spent making me a better teacher – and I was massively better on that day compared to my first – was for naught. The previous summer I had spent a week of training, paid for by my school, to learn to teach pre–Advanced Placement classes. I taught the class for a year; presumably, I thought, someone else would have to receive the same training – or, worse, someone else would not receive the same training. All that work on classroom management and understanding of the curriculum, all the support in connecting with students and writing lesson – it would all have to begin again with a new teacher.
      TFA is now massive, with annual expenses (pdf) at $220 million in fiscal year 2011. According to the charity site Give Well, TFA’s budget 2009 budget came to a stunning $38,046 spent per corps member who started teaching; this was a more than twofold increase from 2005. (Corps member spending by TFA does not include corps members’ salaries, which are paid for by their respective school district. School districts also pay TFA a fee for each corps member hired.) Admittedly, a per-corps-member measurement is imperfect because it accounts for recruiting a new and ever-larger corps, as well as a ballooning alumni base. The question remains: if you have money to donate to education causes, is TFA your best investment?

      Consider some of the main items in TFA’s budget (pdf): recruiting and selecting corps members (18%), management and general (9%), alumni support (8%). None of these makes corps members effective teachers. “Corps member development” (39%) and institute training (17%), on the other hand, purportedly do. Reality, as is its wont, is not so simple.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 08:46:57 AM PDT

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    •  It's hardly the point that TFA volunteers (1+ / 0-)
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      zenbassoon

      are "good people"

      So was the penultimate pope, apparently, when he was a Hitler Youth.

      The key thing is that inexperience is the number one thing that renders a teacher ineffective, so if you want effective teaching, these kids are not the answer.

      Unless your real (and somewhat hidden) goal is just to bash experienced (and more highly paid) teachers . .

      •  Re (0+ / 0-)
        The key thing is that inexperience is the number one thing that renders a teacher ineffective, so if you want effective teaching, these kids are not the answer.
        Do we have data that shows this is true?

        And does the fact that TFA teachers are only the best and brightest from other fields negate the experience thing somewhat?

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 03:55:35 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Who says they're the "best and brightest"? (0+ / 0-)

          Don't buy into the propaganda.  They selectively choose those that will buy into their spin the best.

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

          by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 08:16:37 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  And I've shown you data from five studies (0+ / 0-)

          on another thread in the comments.

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

          by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 08:17:31 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Support for TFA (6+ / 0-)

    whether by corporations like JC Penny or the Obama administration is really about privatization and union busting.  It is about replacing (and demonizing) experienced teachers and public schools with (often) for profit charter schools that hire anyone and restrict registration, while robbing the public schools of tax-payer funding.  

    People like Gates and Obama who support TFA have never had their kids in public schools, where weeks of time is taken from education for test prep, let alone schools with untrained teachers.  

    I am so tired of people who never spend any time in public schools funding decisions for other peoples children.

    •  or it could be about (2+ / 0-)
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      zenbassoon, Sparhawk

      getting more people into teach that wouldn't try teaching without such a program, and getting teachers into low income schools where most people run away from because of poor leadership and literally life threatening students.

      •  Odd logic (6+ / 0-)

        and getting teachers into low income schools where most people run away from because of poor leadership and literally life threatening students.

        How is a TFA teacher different than a public school teacher in this regard? Just curious.

        My issue with TFA is that they have less of an Education education than traditional teachers. If we really were serious about education reform we would demand more education for our teachers, not less.

        •  Do our poorest of students deserve a teacher (7+ / 0-)

          with only 5 weeks of education training? Compare that to a traditional teacher with 5 or more years of experience and you'll see the TFA is a joke.

        •  a TFA teacher (0+ / 0-)

          is a public school teacher.

          As far as I understand, TFA doesn't send teachers to private or charter schools.

          •  BULLCRAP. TFA is designed for charter schools. (0+ / 0-)

            Which are called "public" schools because they are fully funded by taxpayer money and have no restrictions on entrance and no tuition.

            "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

            by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 10:28:04 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  I don't know what you (1+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              Sparhawk

              have against college graduates volunteering to move across the country to teach in low income neighborhood (the majority, maybe not 100%, but the vast majority) but you need to separate your deep seeded hatred for charter schools and the college graduates that go and do this program.

              •  As long as they make a committment and not (1+ / 0-)
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                Yoshimi

                cut and run after only 2 years.  You CANNOT repeat CANNOT establish a school culture of ANYTHING, let alone excellence if the teaching staff is constantly turning over. And I have nothing against charter schools, so long as they do what they were intended and not suck taxpayer money away for nothing but profit.

                "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

                by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 03:25:52 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  If that's what you want (0+ / 0-)

                  maybe you should try embracing them as people who want to be teachers instead of yelling SCABS everytime they're brought up/

                  I can't imagine wanting to stay in a position if i was constantly insulted.

          •  Did you not read the diary? (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            zenbassoon

            In the diary itself it mentions that...

            TFA spokeswoman Becky O’Neill said about 200 of the new recruits are destined for charters, the rest to interview for openings in neighborhood schools.
            So, yeah, there's that.

            "It puts the lotion on its skin, or it gets the GOP again." - The Democratic Party (quip courtesy of Nada Lemming and lotlizard)

            by Rick Aucoin on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 10:29:26 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  so 200 out of about 5,800 (0+ / 0-)

              in 2012.

              about 3% go to charter schools.

              So I'll rephrase. The vast majority of TFA volunteers are public school teachers, not all of them, just 96-97%.

              •  Having taught in charter schools, I can tell you (1+ / 0-)
                Recommended by:
                Yoshimi

                from EXPERIENCE that the VAST majority of charter school teachers are TFA people.  Charters don't want experienced master teachers:  They're more likely to belong to the union, and they cost too much.

                "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

                by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 03:29:51 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

            •  and so what? (1+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              Sparhawk

              Are public schools run traditionally independent of vested interests? Just look at all the messed up school boards around the country or the textbook controversy in Texas.

          •  They go to charters and there is only a (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            zenbassoon

            64% retention rate. A third move on for some reason... Consider TFA and Charters a grist mill grinding up any sense of stability in the inner city.

            •  The retention rate is lower. That 64% factors in (0+ / 0-)

              those who stay in the organization after their two years and do other stuff.

              The actual TEACHER retention rate after two years is about 35%.

              "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

              by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 10:48:43 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

      •  Do not buy into the myth that there are (3+ / 0-)
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        wintergreen8694, JeffW, spaceshot

        "no qualified teachers" in low income schools.  That's BULLSHIT.

        That's the excuse for firing all the master teachers, busting the union, and replacing them with TFA SCABS.

        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

        by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:08:17 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  There is a lot of variation, district to district, (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          zenbassoon

          region to region, school to school.

          There are some schools that are so unpleasant to work in that teachers migrate out when they can. But I think the answer has to be fixing the environment rather than collecting fresh meat more and faster. Such a school might need different leadership or more staffing or more money for facilities.

          What they don't need is a bunch of novice teachers with no job security and no long term commitment or investment in that school.

          Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

          by elfling on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:24:27 AM PDT

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      •  Young teachers are not quality teachers (4+ / 0-)

        That's just a fact. The first months, the first year of teaching are rarely a runaway success in terms of skills and effectiveness. It takes time to build relationships and skills. This is true in most professions.

        And so, when you have a program predicated on the idea that you'll have a new teacher in a particular classroom every two or three years, it hardly matters how brilliant they are, how high their SAT scores, or what university they attended - they'll be gone as soon as they get good at it.

        We need programs and strategies that build stability in those schools, that create places where professional teachers want to stay their whole career, where they can have the time to create a great classroom space and to really know their community.

        In general, high turnover is a sign of a struggling school. Creating a system that creates more turnover is not how you'll make it better.

        TFA is spending $38,000 in overhead to get one of their teachers into a classroom - that's in addition to the school district paying a salary and having its own overhead. Imagine how much further that might go if it was paid in salary to encourage good teachers and good administrators to choose and stay in difficult schools, or in an additional classroom aide, or in smaller class sizes.

        Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

        by elfling on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:18:19 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  And yet (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Trobone

          Studies seem to suggest that TFA teachers are about as good as regular teachers in English but better in math, statistically speaking.

          This may be because TFA takes only high achieving college students.

          Data is the only thing I care about, and the only thing parents should care about. You want to argue that TFA is a bad program? I'm willing to listen: show us the data. Outcomes are all anyone cares about. Your statement that new teachers aren't good does not appear to be borne out by the TFA statistical data.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:42:03 AM PDT

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          •  When you look at the data (2+ / 0-)
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            zenbassoon, Cassandra Waites

            You're seeing differences that are small and for most studies, statistically insignificant. And, they're not comparing TFA teachers to veterans, but TFA to all other teachers, including other new teachers.

            The test scores are really blunt measures of teachers... and they were never designed to evaluate individual teachers. For elementary school teachers, we're talking about 25 kids. If a teacher teaches only two years, that's only 50 kids. 50 kids who vary quite a lot in measures we do not capture.

            Markers like "free and reduced lunch" include kids who are counted as homeless as well as kids whose family incomes are temporarily low because one parent is staying home for childcare - it covers a very broad range of income possibilities. It's used because it's easy information to collect, not because it's the cohort measure you'd choose if you were starting from scratch.

            I watch test scores closely in our local schools. What I see is noise. The teacher whose kids aced math one year has her next crop of students tank the test. That cohort who aced her math tanks two grades later. The cohort that tanked with her are stars the next year, or three years later.

            If these TFA kids were really so fabulous, shouldn't they be obviously improving scores in all subjects?

            If the test score data were so reliable, shouldn't the same teachers always sort to the top and the bottom?

            What I think this information really tells you is that socioeconomic and home circumstances dwarf the effect of the teacher.

            Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

            by elfling on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 10:20:19 AM PDT

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          •  NO. "Data-driven" has NO place in schools. (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            Cassandra Waites

            Schools have now become reduced to the point where the entire school year is about teaching to a standardized test which takes up a MONTH of instruction time.  NO time for learning critical thinking.  NO time for Art, Music, PE, or anything else.  NO time for real science or social studies.  ONLY time for teaching to the test.
            And read these studies, which will tell you a different story. The studies you read in the WaPo are flawed because they also count other non-certified teachers in their study.

            "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

            by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 10:31:08 AM PDT

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            •  And critical thinking encouraged more by union tea (1+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              zenbassoon

              chers? Just go to your typical inner city public school in Atlanta. It's easy for us to preach. We are hurting another generation of poor kids, and let's get honest, African Americans are being victimized by the politics of both parties. THe Democrats just are not as mean spirited as the repubs, but they lack urgency.

    •  I think a lot of people mean well (4+ / 0-)

      but they don't understand the effects on the ground, that in particular high turnover and a "tourist" intent are themselves detrimental.

      If TFA candidates stayed for a career, I think their program would be far more positive.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:10:14 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Penney's has been on my do not buy list for ages (5+ / 0-)
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    A stitch in time: California inmates sew their own garb. In the 1990s, subcontractor Third Generation hired 35 female South Carolina inmates to sew lingerie and leisure wear for Victoria's Secret and JCPenney. In 1997, a California prison put two men in solitary for telling journalists they were ordered to replace "Made in Honduras" labels on garments with "Made in the USA."
  •  thanks for this diary. i just emailed JCP. (2+ / 0-)
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    I do a lot of shopping there. they have a nice big and tall section, and my son is both.

    "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

    by thankgodforairamerica on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 08:46:52 AM PDT

  •  Sadly.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Though JC Penny was good on LGBT issues (and I actually bought some stuff from them as a thank you at the time) they aren't really that great a company, at least not according to Green America's Responsible Shopper.

    FREEDOM ISN'T FREE: That's why we pay taxes. NYC's Progressive/Reform Blog

    by mole333 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:01:01 AM PDT

  •  Well, you can't make money by banning... (4+ / 0-)
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    gay people from your store or demonizing them.

    You can make LOTS of money by supporting privatized schools.

    It's nothing personal.  Just good business.

    /snark

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:22:53 AM PDT

  •  Something else about TFA (4+ / 0-)
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    is that they only take a small fraction of their applicants--something like 10% or 20%, based on GPA, personal recommendations, and other factors. They take great pains only to accept the "best and brightest," whom they then abuse and exploit. They pull shit like refusing to pay them for their summer internship. If you're not from a well-to-do family, this puts you in a serious bind financially, but you're just supposed to be so dedicated, you're not even supposed to notice?

    So, you're  a kid out of college, you make this "cut" of "elite" new TFA inductees. They treat you like garbage, and you're left wondering, "What does being so smart and so promising and everything even mean? Is this 'as good as it gets,' this level of professional support?"

    These days, alas, TFA nevertheless has plenty of applicants to skim from.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 09:52:13 AM PDT

  •  I'm shocked! (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm shocked that a private corporation wants to get involved in privatization of something.

  •  As someone with a bit of a chemistry (3+ / 0-)
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    background, whenever I see "TFA" I immediately think of trifluoroacetic acid, something that is both mildly useful and harmful at the same time.

    I suppose that it is an interesting coincidence that TFA in the context of this diary has almost the very same characteristics . ..  

  •  Downhill ever since they fired Ron Johnson (2+ / 0-)
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    Not the Senator, but their former CEO and star of Apple's retail success.

    Not that Johnson would have been able to turn the boat around, but he was never really given the time.

    The way he was forced to resign (by issuing an "apology" ad) was particularly idiotic.

    I have very low expectations for JCP going forward.

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    by sacrelicious on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 10:22:10 AM PDT

    •  It was full speed downhill before they fired him (2+ / 0-)
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      If he'd had any more time there wouldn't be a JCP left.He laid off people in droves - over 20% of the workforce; and he did it cavalierly and in bunches; with mass announecments to up to 100 people at a time.

      Penney's is not Apple - diferent customer base, different vibe; and the Apple approach Johnson took was a very bad fit.

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 11:16:53 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for the sample letter. (2+ / 0-)
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    I used it to inform my e-mailed request to JCP that they cease and desist:

    If JC Penney wants to be a positive force in education, it should learn more about Teach for America before offering its support.

    Teach for America is an organization dedicated to the destruction of the public school system in the United States.  If that sounds like hyperbole, consider their employment practices (TFA teachers are routinely unqualified for their work), their focus on test scores (which encourages “teaching to the test”), their cherry-picking of potential students in order to skew evaluations, and their siphoning off state funding originally intended by tax payers to go to public schools so that tax payers are inadvertently subsidizing corporately-owned charter schools.  In addition, TFA’s organizers are up to their necks in scandals based on their activities in school districts around the country, including Atlanta, Washington DC, and my own state of Maine.

    It is disappointing to see JC Penney, for which I have heretofore had so much respect, inadvisably diving into these waters without first doing due diligence on TFA.  If you do not withdraw your support of this ghastly organization, I will have little choice but to cease shopping at your stores and advocate similar actions to my friends and relations.

    Sincerely,

    Little drops of water ...
  •  They have a new CEO (1+ / 0-)
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    after a disastrous rebranding effort. I wonder if this is just some sort of misguided attempt to look civic-minded for publicity purposes?

    We decided to move the center farther to the right by starting the whole debate from a far-right position to begin with. - Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay

    by denise b on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 11:00:16 AM PDT

  •  Is it about teaching or unions? (0+ / 0-)

    I support teachers. I support the right to have a union.  But sometimes, I wonder if the overreaction to any publc school alternatrives is just union turf protection.

    Questions I have :
    1) The teachers who got fired-  is it known if they are better than the the TFA replacements?
    2) Has the teaching  budget gone down?

    If yes to either of them, then i have a problem with the TFA replacement program.

    •  National Board Certified teachers have been fired (0+ / 0-)

      in Chicago.  Nationally recognized teachers in Chicago have been fired.  The answer to the first question is YES. Because out of the pool of laid off teachers, there are more than enough super highly qualified teachers WAY better than TFA teachers ready to take those jobs.

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

      by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 03:32:35 PM PDT

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  •  if public schools are so great (0+ / 0-)

    then why do you see such bad decision making in so many schools? Cut corners on advanced academic programs so they can fund neighborhood football glory. Pander to ID toting religious parents in conservative towns. Contracts with food vendors that do not provide healthy tasty food to the kids. Overpaid school administrators who make life for teachers harder than many charter school proponents.
     

    •  Food vendor contracts are all about getting money. (0+ / 0-)

      Same with athletics.  They bring in money. And local school boards are elected.  You have a problem, you run for your school board.

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

      by zenbassoon on Thu Jul 25, 2013 at 03:33:42 PM PDT

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