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Do you have any old family scandals that can't harm anyone anymore?

 I don't mean your twin sister's affair last year with a married person. I mean the older kind where there's nary a living soul who would give a damn.

One side of my family has them aplenty. Some originated in Victorian shame, and some from political necessity.

My great grandfather left this country with the law hot on his heels.
The old dust of decades or even centuries sometimes is blown away by unexpected events, and we may find ourselves somewhat transported back to another time and a different social reality. It happened to me earlier this week

The city of Vancouver unexpectedly contacted me a few days ago to say they'd soon be returning the 20 banker-sized boxes of historical documents I lent them about my great grandfather almost a decade ago. He had once been a U.S. expat who contstructed a political career in Canada while on the run from the law here. That was in the 1890s.

There are a lot of family secrets in those boxes from about 1880-1940s, but none of them covering the last sixty years at all. None of the adults they refer to are still living. Mostly they were born during the latter times of the Victorian era.

So what have I got? I've got a great grandfather who rebuilt his life in another country after running away from the law here. He married again in Canada while still married to my great grandmother here = bigamy. My great grandmother became an opium addict (sipping it with a spoon) in response.

One of her two sons ended up as a guard/newspaper editor at the Santa Anita Internment Center (read concentration camp) for Japanese-Americans during WWII. Sadly, the last one wouldn't be a big secret in most families in the 1940s, but in mine it was a cause of deep shame and a very hush-hush topic. That generation of my family had lost close friends in Spain fighting Fascism. The other side of my family had folks in concentration camps in Europe at the time. I share in the shame my family felt about one of our own's participation in the internment of American citizens of Japanese descent. At the same time, I have a feeling of pride that my grandfather knew that what his brother was doing was wrong, despite the apparent approval of the larger society (and despite my great-uncle's belief he had no way out). Shame and pride at the same time. I could go on and on (sometimes I do), but I think you get the point.

All the folks that lived before us really weren't two-dimensional figures. Trust me on this one. Despite such phrases as "simple, god-fearing folk," they all had their personality quirks. Isolated groups of humans may appear homogenous to outsiders for periods of time, but individuals within those groups have never been. Unique humans...our family trees are full of 'em. And they all messed up in some way, and then tried to hide it. It is what we do.

Japanese-Americans being round up for an uncertain fate

If I have a personal religion/philosphy, it involves a type of filial piety. On some level I have to assume that my ancestors walked around with a bit of myself in them, just as I walk around carrying some of them. They came first and I owe them (as I do future generations). For me that means the debt of rememberance. They lived and felt as I do when gazing at the stars or into the eyes of love. They cried and died as I will one day with my eyes turned to the ground. Maybe 200 generations of them between myself and the political assassignation of Juilus Ceasar. Maybe 400 between myself and the erection of the Egyptian pyramids. Maybe 800 between now and the first villages. The exact number isn't that important. All of them had their own scandals and secrets they tried to hide until the information, and later they themselves, were forgotten about. If I cannot remember all their deeds, the good and the bad ones, at least I can remember that they had them as part of their birthright as humans. Today I'm thinking about their less than stellar deeds. In my personal religion/philosophy, that doesn't dishoner them.

So what old family scandals are floating around in your head?

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New York Hudson Valley Kossacks: Kosmail boran2

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Note to the above new leaders: Feel free to leave a comment any day reminding readers about your new group. Also, tell us about your progress in gathering members. Kosmail me when you've chosen a good name for your group and have created a the group. Then I'll move you to the NEW GROUPS LIST. When you've planned a date for your first event I'll make a banner for you to highlight your event in our diaries and your diaries.
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NEW GROUPS LIST:

California Central Valley Kossacks - Formed: Jul 29, 2012, Organizer: tgypsy

New England Kossacks - Formed: Aug 6, 2012, Organizers:
Clytemnestra for Lower New England (Conneticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island)
nhox42 for Upper New England (Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont)

Houston Area Kossacks - Formed: Aug 7, 2012, Organizer: Chrislove

Kossacks in India - Formed: Aug 14, 2012, Organizer: chandu

CenTex Kossacks - Formed: Sep 9, 2012, Organizer: papa monzano

Central Ohio Kossacks - Formed: Sep 26, 2012, Organizer: VetGrl

Kansas City Kossacks - Formed Oct 15, 2012, Organizer: [Founder stepped down]

Phoenix Kossacks - Formed Oct 16, 2012, Organizer: arizonablue

Chicago Kossacks - Formed: Oct 31, 2012, Organizer: figbash

Koscadia the Pacific Northwest coast from Northern California to Alaska  
- Formed Oct 17, 2012, Oganizer: Horace Boothroyd III based in Portland, OR

Boston Kossacks - Formed: Nov 7, 2012, Organizer: GreyHawk

Motor City Kossacks South East Michigan (Detroit) Area - Formed: Nov 10, 2012, Organizer:  peregrine kate

Pittsburgh Area Kossacks - Formed: Nov 12, 2012, Organizer: dweb8231

Salt Lake City Kossacks - Formed: Nov 17, 2012, Organizer: War on Error

Twin Cities Kossacks - Formed: Nov 17, 2012, Organizer: imonlylurking

Dallas Kossacks North Texas - Formed: Nov 21, 2012, Admins: Catte Nappe and dalfireplug. Please contact them to join the group. An Event Organizer needed.

The Southern California Inland Empire Kossacks - Formed: Dec 3, 2012, Organizer: SoCaliana

Los Angeles Kossacks - Formed: Dec 17, 2012, Organizer: Dave in Northridge  

Northeast Ohio Kossacks - Formed: Jan 16, 2013,  Organizer: GenXangster

Kansas & Missouri Kossacks - Formed: Jan 17, 2013, Organizer: tmservo433

I-77 Carolina Kossacks who live from Columbia, SC to north of Winston-Salem, NC. - Formed: Jan 30, 2013, Organizers: gulfgal98 and eeff

Indianapolis Kossacks - Formed: Feb 6, 2013, Organizer: CityLightsLover

Southwest Ohio Kossacks - Formed: May 10, 2013, Organizer: Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN

Northern Arizona Kossacks - Formed:  Jul 5, 2013, Organizer: Sam Sara

Mexican Kossacks - Formed: Apr 14, 2013, Organizer: roberb7

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ESTABLISHED GROUPS LIST: (List will grow as we discover them)

SFKossacks Founded by navajo, Formed: May 2, 2005

Maryland Kos Founded by timmyc, Formed: Feb 23, 2011. Contact: JamieG from Md for a group invite.

New York City Founded by Eddie C - Contact the group organizer for meet-up events: sidnora

Baja Arizona Kossacks, Event Organizer: Azazello

Three Star Kossacks Tennessee, Founded by maryKK, Formed: Apr 8, 2011

Nashville KosKats, Founded by ZenTrainer Formed: Jan 30, 2012

Virginia Kos Founded by JamieG from Md, Formed: May 3, 2011

Kos Georgia Founded by pat208, Formed: Feb 13, 2011

Colorado COmmunity Founded by Leftcandid, Formed: Feb 13, 2011

New Mexico Kossaks Founded by claude

Philly Kos Founded by mconvente Formed: Aug 29, 2011

DKos Florida Founded by ThirstyGator, Formed: Feb 14, 2011, Currently organizing: Kosmail Vetwife to be included in next event.

Oklahoma Roundup Founded by BigOkie, Formed: Feb 13, 2011, Currently organizing: Kosmail peacearena to be included.

DKos Asheville Founded by davehouck, Formed: Feb 13, 2011 - Organizing Assist by: randallt

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Saturday, August 31st

Houston Kossacks Meet-up

TIME: 1:00 PM
LOCATION: Hollywood Vietnamese-Chinese & French Cuisine
2409 Montrose Boulevard • Houston

ORGANIZER: Send Chrislove a kosmail to attend.

RSVPs:
1. Chrislove
2. jmbar2
3. cosette
4. mister mustardhead
5. Bree Davis
6. doraphasia
6. Libby Shaw
7. suesue
8. mr. suesue
Maybees:
Mr. cosette
Latest diary: Houston Area Kossacks: Meet-Up Scheduled for Saturday, August 31!
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Sunday, Sept 15th

Chicago Kossacks Meet-up at a Powwow!

TIME: 11:30 AM
LOCATION: Chicago's 60th Annual American Indian Center Powwow
Busse Woods Forest Preserve • Elk Grove Village

ORGANIZER: Send figbash a kosmail to attend.

RSVPs:
1. figbash
2. broths
3. Mr. broths
4. Satya1
5. Liberal Granny
6. Railfan
7. Expat Okie
8. LeftOfYou
Maybees:
peregrine kate
palantir
edwardssl
Millie Neon
Latest diary: Chicago Kossacks Go To A Powwow: Sunday, Sept 15 2013
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DeKalb, Illinois Kossacks

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Saturday, September 21st

DeKalb, Illinois Kossacks Dinner & a Show!

DINNER:
TIME: 6:00 PM
LOCATION: Rosita's Mexican Restaurant
642 East Lincoln Highway • DeKalb

SHOW:
TIME: 7:30 PM
LOCATION: The Stage Coach Players Theater
126 South 5th Street (2 blks. from dinner) • DeKalb

ORGANIZER: Send NormAl1792 a kosmail to attend.

RSVPs:
1. NormAl1792 (on stage as Henry II)
2. winifred3
3. luvsathoroughbred
4. Mr. luvs
Maybees:
1864 House
Amber6541
edwardssl
jwinIL14
JeffW
Calamity Jean
Latest diary: Northern IL Kossacks Dinner and a Show - Saturday, Sept. 21
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Saturday, October 19th

DKos Asheville Kossacks Meet-up

TIME: 1:00 PM
LOCATION: The Bywater
796 Riverside Dr. • Asheville

ORGANIZER: Send randallt a kosmail to attend.

RSVPs:
1. randallt
2. davehouck
3. Joieau
4. Gordon20024
5. gulfgal98
6. DawnN
7. Sandy on Signal
8. Mr Sandy on Signal
9. Munchkin
10. Alecia
11. Mr Alecia
12. cultjake
13. flwrightman
Maybees:
Otteray Scribe
Burns Lass
people power granny
One Pissed Off Liberal
Christian Dem in NC
SteelerGrrl
SteelerGuy
polecat
Audri
Phil S 33
Latest diary: DKos Asheville - Weekly Open Thread
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Sunday, October 20th

MEGA Philly/NJ/NYC Kossacks Meet-up!

TIME: Noon
LOCATION: Stuff Yer Face
49 Easton Avenue • New Brunswick, NJ

ORGANIZER: Send mconvente a kosmail to attend.

RSVPs:
1. mconvente
2. belinda ridgewood
3. thankgodforairamerica
4. gchaucer2
5. sidnora
6. rubyr
7. mattc129
8. hayden
9. mallyroyal
10. Avilyn
11. blue jersey mom
Maybees:
aravir and son
ask
Cinnamon
No Exit
andgarden
asterkitty
pfiore8
joanneleon
Latest diary: Philly/NJ/NYC Mega Meetup! Initial Information & Interest Diary
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Friday, October 25th

LAKossacks & SoCal Inland Empire See Lewis Black!

TIME: 9:00 PM
LOCATION: Agua Caliente Casino Resort & Spa
32-250 Bob Hope Dr. • Rancho Mirage

ORGANIZER: Send 714day a kosmail to attend.

RSVPs:
1. 714day
2. jakedog42
3. susans
4. Otoelbc
Maybees:
Latest diary: L.A. Kossacks, Lewis Black Fans in So Cal
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Friday, October 25th

Meet the Daily Kos Editorial Staff!

TIME: TBD in the  PM
LOCATION: Daily Kos HQ
Address given privately to RSVP'ers • Berkeley

ORGANIZER: Send navajo a kosmail to attend.
You will need to bring Potluck. Stay tuned for assignments.

RSVPs:
1. Markos
2. Susan Gardner
3. Meteor Blades
4. Faith Gardner
5. Will Rockafellow
    and many more staff... stay tuned
6. navajo
7. Lusty
8. side pocket
9. paradise50
10. smileycreek
11. citisven
12. norm
13. Lorikeet
14. kimoconnor
15. remembrance +TLO?
16. Glen the Plumber
17. madhaus
18. dharmasyd
19. ceebee7
20. lineatus
21. Dave in Northridge
22. linkage
23. LinSea
Maybees:
Cedwyn
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Saturday, November 2nd

SFKossacks BBQ in the Wine Country

TIME: TBD
LOCATION: Andrew McGuire's home in the Wine Country
Address to be given privately to RSVPs • Windsor

ORGANIZER: Send navajo a kosmail to attend.


Andrew McGuire is Executive Director of California One Care

RSVPs:
1. Andrew McGuire
2. navajo
3. Shockwave
4. Hunter
5. elfing
6. Hunter/elfling offspring
7. smileycreek
8. paradise50
9. dharmasyd
10. maggiejean
11. norm
12. Lusty
13. dksbook
14. Mr. dksbook
15. kimoconnor
16. jpmassar
17. side pocket
18. Mrs. side pocket
19. ceebee7
20. ceebee7's sister
21. leema (will carpool from Marin)
22. Meteor Blades

Maybees:
Glen The Plumber
remembrance
TLO™

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Tell us what you are doing on this NEW DAY?

Originally posted to Connect! Unite! Act! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 07:30 AM PDT.

Also republished by Genealogy and Family History Community.

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