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President Barack Obama talks with former President Bill Clinton before an event in McLean, Va., Sunday, April 29, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
The Obama administration's unofficial Secretary of Explaining Stuff, former President Bill Clinton, lent a hand Wednesday on the Affordable Care Act. He chided Republicans for standing in they way, arguing that since "it's the law" it is time that all elected officials, Republicans included, make it work. He explained the necessity of the law, the basics of the law, and what Congress should be doing to make it work better.
“I think we should all work together to implement this law, whether we supported its passage or not,” Clinton said in a speech that was more laden with health policy detail than the explanatory shot-in-the-arm he gave Obamacare in his speech a year ago at the Democratic National Convention.

“I have agreed to give this talk today because I am still amazed at how much misunderstanding there is about the current system of health care, how it works, how it compares with what other people in other countries pay for health care and what kind of results they get and what changes are actually occurring now and are going to occur in the future,” Clinton said. [...]

“You can’t change a complex economic structure like American health care this much without creating some problems, but they can best be solved if we all work together to fix them,” Clinton told a packed room of 300 invited supporters at his presidential library, located at the end of a downtown street named for the 42nd president.
Those fixes Clinton endorsed included making the law’s little-known small-business tax credit more available as well as eliminating a so-called family glitch that could penalize workers who can afford to cover themselves but not their families.

“It’s obviously not fair,” he said. “I think Congress should fix it.”

This Congress won't be fixing anything. This Congress, at least the Republican part of it, will do nothing to make the law work better and anything and everything to try to cripple it. Clinton's speech didn't focus as much on the sabotage part as the drier policy details of the law. Hopefully he'll stick with this publicity push for the law, and maybe get just a little bit more engaged in the politics of it. Because when Bill Clinton really engages, it's magic.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 12:21 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (19+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 12:21:25 PM PDT

  •  the GOP hates (4+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock, Tunk, MPociask, OooSillyMe

    Clinton nearly as much as they hate Obama.
    I can't see any way that this is going to improve the situation in Congress.

    (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

    by PJEvans on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 12:28:13 PM PDT

    •  True, but he's still helpful. (4+ / 0-)

      Based on his 2012 convention performance, it's pretty clear that BC's explaining can help with some groups of swing voters and sometimes-Democrats.  

      It won't win over Republicans.  But it can help stiffen the spines of some wishy-washy Democrats.  And it can make it easier for Democratic candidates to run (and win) on a pro-ACA platform in marginal districts, which is what we need over the long run.

      •  I think it's better than that. (0+ / 0-)

        Clinton is the best spokesman Democrats have. To the extent that he's addressing the issue, it makes it more difficult for the Kochs to mischaracterize its effects. I expect he's read the legislation and having him in the public eye reasonable and rational detracts from the appeal of House Republicans.

        The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.

        by Pacifist on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 07:38:10 PM PDT

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        •  No (0+ / 0-)

          On the contrary, Bill Clinton gave us George Bush. The "New Democrats" of the Clinton admin. have served powerfully to pull the country to the right WHILE alienating the very base of the Democratic Party -- those millions of post-middle class and poor voters. Learn how and why NAFTA and workfare replacement labor (who do you think they're replacing, albeit at a fraction of the wages?) have been wiping out middle class workers, locking unionizing efforts, etc. What matters is what a pol actually does, not the way that pol is marketed. On the full range of socio-economic policies -- which define the country itself -- Bill Clinton is actually to the right of such historic staunch conservatives as Eisenhower, Nixon and even Reagan. "It's the policies, stupid" that define the politician.

    •  ...everything. Oh, you were talking about Clinton. (0+ / 0-)

      Sorry, got mixed up.

      "See? I'm not a racist! I have a black friend!"

      by TheHalfrican on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:23:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  They seemed to love him during the 2012 campaign (0+ / 0-)

      At least Romney/Ryan did, though we all know they were trying to use Obama vs Clinton as a wedge, but they paid him a lot of positive lip service.  

      Also there is a subset of Clinton Supporters who don't support Pres Obama.  Clinton's favorables are probably 15%+ higher (if not more, total guess on my part).  

      “I will be far more aggressive in my reporting from now. I am going to publish many more documents. I have many more documents on England’s spy system. I think they will be sorry for what they did.” -G.Greenwald

      by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:26:42 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Dem Party vs. the Dem base (0+ / 0-)

        Total guess, indeed. The fact that media marketed to liberals has largely remained oblivious to American poverty doesn't change the fact that they vote. (Maybe only older people remember the "Invisible America," which was returned to invisible status by Clinton.)  When both leading candidates are hostile toward them, they withhold their millions of votes (which leads to a Republican victory). Because Gore was hostile to this huge chunk of the population, he didn't get their votes. The middle class has been shrinking for years, largely because of policies supported by the middle class, and only a portion of middle classers vote for Dems in the first place. The legacy of the Clinton admin. is the bourgeoisie arrogance that defines this era, and that has deeply divided the Dem base AND liberals/progressives.

    •  Nothing can do that (0+ / 0-)

      But he can help get the message out to real people, who do like him.

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

      by anastasia p on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 06:31:17 PM PDT

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      •  Real People (0+ / 0-)

        Depends. Informed people are keenly aware of how the policies pushed by Clinton -- especially NAFTA and workfare replacement labor -- continue to work to phase out the middle class entirely, thereby phasing out the last of the power that any citizens actually had. No doubt, those who like Clinton will listen to him.  There just aren't many of those around.

  •  Saw Roadside Signs in NE Ohio w Number to Call (4+ / 0-)
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    to get health insurance and "avoid Obamacare."

    I bet this is going to open up scam city for some time to come.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 12:30:06 PM PDT

  •  OMG asking THEM to be constructive? (3+ / 0-)
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    Come on Bill!

    An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

    by don mikulecky on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 12:30:27 PM PDT

    •  I hope Clinton still has it, (0+ / 0-)

      but what the Democrats need is more than "magic" to overcome Republican obstruction.  A miracle might suffice.  District courts slapping down the current lawsuits that threaten to strangle the baby in its crib would be very helpful.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:07:48 PM PDT

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      •  Still has what? (0+ / 0-)

        "It's the policies, stupid," not the marketing. Clinton passed more right-wing legislation than ANY Republican could dream of passing. Check the policies, not the marketing. When it comes to actual policies, Clinton has been consistently to the right of such historic conservatives as Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan! Clinton gave us the Bush administration. Clinton deeply divided the left, skewing any marginal balance of power.

  •  Might as well call on pigs to start flying. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  There's no reason to expect that (7+ / 0-)

    someone who is vehemently opposed to the basic concept in the law -- government mandates that everyone buy health insurance at a level also mandated by the government -- would work to try to make that law better.  

    As long as they oppose the fundamental concept, there's no reason on earth for the Republicans to try to "fix" it  to make it work better.  Fixing it makes it more likely that the basic structure stays in place.  Having it be hugely problematic makes it more likely that the whole thing comes tumbling down -- which is exactly what Republicans want, for ACA to be unworkable and problematic so that they can get more support for repeal.  

    In addition, Republicans are essentially betting that a lot of people will talk about the problems of the law.  Right now, the ACA is 100% a Democratic bill.  If it's a success, Dems get the credit; if its' a problem, Dems get the blame.  If Republicans REALLY believe that implementation is going to be a problem, why would they take ownership of the ACA by passing legislation to "fix" it?  That just turns a purely Democratic bill into something more bipartisan, and means the Republicans take some ownership of the ACA.  They clearly don't want any part of it.  

    That's what happens when you pass a huge, huge piece of legislation on a partisan basis.  When you do that, you  can't then expect the opposition to give you any assistance in implementation.   If it's a success, you get all the credit.  If it's a problem, you get all the blame. What you can't expect is for the other side to help you fix problems you created in a purely partisan bill.

    This next year is a big political gamble for Republicans.  They are betting 2014 on the fact that when the ACA is fully implemented, a lot of people will see problems.  If they are right, they could do well in 2014.  If they are wrong -- if the ACA is a big success over the next year -- they will probably suffer big losses in the Congresssional election in 2014

    •  I agree in the main with this analysis (1+ / 0-)
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      However, I would point out that it was due to the Republicans that the bill was "purely partisan."  The White House did everything possible to make the bill bipartisan - up to and including basing their entire model on a conservative plan dreamt up by the Heritage Foundation and first implemented statewide by a Republican governor.

      Now, you could be saying that the Republican refusal to engage was predictable, and I would agree.  In which case, if you're going to own a purely partisan piece of legislation in the end, why not make it look like something a liberal would dream up?  But I'm not sure that's your point.

  •  Would Democrats ever help to fix the GOP's (0+ / 0-)

    centerpiece legislation?  

    •  They've done it before, (3+ / 0-)
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      and they would probably do it again if the legislation was a beneficial for the American people.  The GOP doesn't seem to be hampered by that generous attitude.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:12:47 PM PDT

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  •  What I like about this (1+ / 0-)
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    Obama paying attention to the message.

    When they call roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty'. --Teddy Roosevelt

    by thenekkidtruth on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:09:49 PM PDT

  •  Am I the only one who freaks out when they (1+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude

    hear Bill Clinton talk about fixing a social welfare program? You wonder what corporate interest is going to get the next handout.

    •  No (0+ / 0-)

      You are FAR from being the only one. The difficulty we have is current liberal media that is aware only of the bourgeoisie, the middle class. While this really isn't about critiquing "progressive" media, it's worth noting that this news source largely ignored the fact that Bill Clinton had enough time in office to take the first steps toward dismantling Social Security as well, starting with disabled workers.  As a result of his policies, the seriously ill and disabled became the fastest-growing group of homeless Americans.  These horrendous policies remained in effect until Barack Obama became president.

  •  help (1+ / 0-)
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    got a crazy email and want to know to refute it.

    I AM FURIOUS. I WANT EVERY ONE TO READ THIS WHETHER YOU LIKE WHAT I SEND OR NOT. IT HAS TO DO WITH OBAMACARE
    THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL!!! I AM SO MAD!
    What does this word mean? Dhimmitude

    The word "Dhimmitude" is found in the new health care bill. So what does it mean? Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

    Obama used it in the health care bill . Now isn't this interesting? It is also included in the health care law.

    Dhimmitude . I had never heard the word until no...w, so I typed it into Google and started reading. Pretty interesting! It's on Page 107 of the Obama healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and,
    yep, it exists.....it is a REAL word.

    Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslin populations conquered through jihad (Holy War). Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presenceAND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam!

    ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States !

    AND Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured! Islam considers insurance to be "gambling," "risk-taking," and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

    How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivable, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance.

    Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

    I recommend sending this on to your contacts. American citizens need to know about it.....

    snopes.com: Health Insurance Exemptions April 13, 2010 .. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations .. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia ..www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asps/medical/exemptions.asp .

    Keep this going. Every non-Muslim in the United States of America needs to know about it.

    Does this make you mad? I hope it does !!!!!!!!!!!!
     

    Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. John Kenneth Galbraith .

    by melvynny on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:19:58 PM PDT

    •  Block. Sender. /help nt (2+ / 0-)
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      "...even amnesia, if prolonged, can become as dreary as one's old life." - Walker Percy

      by turnover on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:26:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Snopes is your friend (4+ / 0-)
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      Any time (and that means each and every time) you get one of these whacko e-mails, and especially when they claim a Snopes citation, go to Snopes yourself. Here's the link, which calls this whole stupid e-mail "FALSE":

      http://www.snopes.com/...

      Okay? They're not even trying anymore. Have fun refuting their bullshit claim. You can even tell them that yes, it does make you mad when nincompoops try to pass off nonsense as fact.

      •  snopes (0+ / 0-)

        I sent her the full snopes--she just sees the first couple of lines--and then accuses the left of running snopes and adding the falsehood.  I know I should ignore--unfriend--but we do have to try and help the mentally unstable--they vote.

        Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. John Kenneth Galbraith .

        by melvynny on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 05:00:35 PM PDT

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        •  Since she's a self-professed Christian (0+ / 0-)

          Perhaps you could gently remind her that lying is one of the Big "Don'ts" in the 10 Commandments, endorsed and affirmed in the Christian Testament by everyone from the gospel writers to the epistles.

          Alternatively, ask her to point out exactly what the falsehoods planted on Snopes are. Who knows? By staying engaged in the conversation, you might just kick-start her brain.

  •  I assume this will be Hillary's angle as well. (2+ / 0-)
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    GOP voted 40+ times to repeal and never once to improve glaring oversights that happen when rolling out huge legislation - that happened for SS when it was rolled out, happened for Medicare/Medicaid when it was originally rolled out.  And these safety net programs are still being improved today - nobody votes 40 times to repeal SS or Medicare when they believe improvements are necessary.  

    “I will be far more aggressive in my reporting from now. I am going to publish many more documents. I have many more documents on England’s spy system. I think they will be sorry for what they did.” -G.Greenwald

    by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:23:32 PM PDT

  •  We're going to need education on Obamacare (2+ / 0-)
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    Especially in the states that aren't setting up their own marketplace.  Nobody knows what to do, and there's very little information.

    I see you drivin' 'round town with the girl I love / And I'm like / Please proceed, Governor. - Dave Itzkoff

    by Jensequitur on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:26:22 PM PDT

    •  That will solve itself (1+ / 0-)
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      On October 1st, I bet you every single news organization will be covering the exchanges in detail.  Awareness will increase dramatically once you are able to log online and see what it is about.

      Insurance companies also have a big incentive to get people on the exchanges.  They will spend a billion in marketing probably targeting the most profitable customers, young healthy people.

      •  Except the people most likely to get fooled (0+ / 0-)

        are those who are least likely to be computer/internet savvy. "Logging online and seeing what it is all about" is not an option for a whole lot of folks that are getting targeted by this barrage of propagandistic nonsense. I teach inexperienced computer users daily, and I can guarantee you they are not going to be able to educate themselves in that way . . .

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 04:39:04 PM PDT

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        •  Don't forget (0+ / 0-)

          The US, compared to other modern nations, has a much smaller percentage of the population using computers, due to the out-of-control costs of services. People forget this. A very large chunk of our population simply doesn't have easy access to computers.

  •  They will eventually make it better (0+ / 0-)

    The main advantage that Republicans have is that the public is confused about the law, so they can lie about it all they want.

    Once the individual provisions kick in, the public will see it isn't that bad and there are even some good things in the law.  Most Republicans would like the concept of exchanges to buy private insurance from.

    When Republicans are able to obtain insurance without worrying about preexisting conditions, it will be a very unpopular political position to repeal that.  It would be the equivalent of dismantling Social Security.

    The tide will change in 2014.  I predict Republicans will changing their rhetoric from repealing Obamacare, to fixing it.  

    To save face, they will say that Obamacare is a disaster, but they know how to make it better.  They will probably try to rewrite history claiming that if only Obama worked with Republicans in 2009, that the law would have been perfected from the start.

    •  How can they change their rhetoric (0+ / 0-)

      to "fixing it" which, remember, WAS their rhetoric once upon a time ("repeal and replace"), but that has long since been forgotten for just "dump it." And since it's so conservative anyway, how on earth would they "fix" it?

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

      by anastasia p on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 06:37:38 PM PDT

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    •  Facts don't matter (0+ / 0-)

      I figured out that facts don't matter to Americans when the nation embraced the notion that AFDC was "breaking the budget," imperiling our economy, and creating a massive culture of lifelong dependency.  In reality, AFDC used a mere 6% of the fed. budget at it's highest (1970s). Over 80% of AFDC recipients were able to quit welfare for jobs by the time their children started school -- and it was welfare, itself, that made this possible (try to get a job without a home address, phone, bus fare). They then became taxpayers, ultimately repaying all the aid they had received.

  •  He is truly a magician (0+ / 0-)

    an "explainer" of supreme talents.  I love Bill Clinton.  He makes me feel proud to be a veteran who served honorably.  He personifies the highest standard of public service and dedication to the public good in the United States.  He is brilliant.  Another Kennedy.  I have been around a while.  Bill Clinton is magnificent.

  •  This is kabuki theater and little else. (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans cannot move to center on this because they're using repeal to drive campaign contributions.    The split second that Republicans pipe down about repeal, die-hard politicos stop sending in funding.    Sure, Republicans can gin up a few campaign dollars scaring old people about gays, guns, and abortion but nowhere near the cash they can gin up by screaming repeal at the top of their lungs.

    Clinton is basically telling Republicans to give up their cash cow, and they are going to ask, why should we?    

  •  It is surreal (0+ / 0-)

    where refusing to confront the Right has taken us.

    "Explainer n Chief?"

    People voted for Clinton because Candidate Clinton fought back. He didn't take it. He didn't whine or cry about it. Or run to the refs like a little boy with an owie running for his mom.

    Bill Clinton would be better as ACA Implimentation Enforcer. The guy who makes Teahadi look weak and stupid, when he isn't making them look like a bunch of thieves stealing something that should be rightfully in the hands of Americans who deserve it. Forget need it, deserve it. Make the American people resent the GOP over their ACA nonsense and the ACA suddenly looks even stronger.

    The Democratic Party passed a Movement Conservative Healthcare Plan. The Right's best policy outcome possible. No other reform option was going to be this "free market based". No other reform option was going to preserve the role of profit in the system, and treating people's health as if it is a product.

    This is it.

    The best the American Right was ever going to get.

    In one of the greatest acts of bad faith in the history of American politics and governance, the GOP and the Movement Conservative Right's Big Money class called it "Socialism" and scaremongered their own policy regime, while pretending that the massively failing status quo was not just a viable alternative, but preferable.

    It passed on a party line vote entirely because of Movement Conservative bad faith. The GOP deciding that, essentially, that every outcome is Socialism because, well, that is how you always end up at 'Fuck You.'

    The ACA is the ultimate act of beltway bipartisanship, and the ultimate proof that there is no bottom to the bad faith on the Right. None.  

    "Fine. We will pass your idea. Will you support it?"

    "No. Fucking communism is what it is. Socialism."

    "But your name is on it. Here. 1994. You worked at Heritage at the time."

    "That was before the Secular Humanist Atheist Jihadist Kenyan Goat herder Community Activist BaMaoMcStalin Saul Alinsky Obummer. Now, our reform idea is that you can sit and scream in the Emergency room with the other parasites and takers. Fuck You. You can have that. Can you live with 'Fuck You'? We can."  

    And after all that,  God help us, there are still non-Movement Conservatives in our American public life who are waiting for Good Faith Godot to show up. Does the GOP have to start spitting in people's faces like 7th grade bullies before things change? No. No. Eventually. They will come to the table. They will get that this is the law. They will get that they have to work with it.

    Here. Here is Bill Clinton.

    "Congress should work to...."

    Oh, God. Are we going to do this in 2013?

    Act like Sociopaths aren't what they are.

    When you go up to a GOP hack and say 'do you remember Bill Clinton?'

    They have odd nostaligic memories.  

    "Ah yes. The Arkansas Project was my first paid gig in DC after I left my internship at the American Enterprise Institute. My wife was actually the person who bought the melon they used for the re-enactment of Vince Foster's murder. Thank God she talked them out of drawing a face on it before they started filming."

    They hate Bill Clinton. The GOP spend hundreds of millions of dollars, and his entire Presidency, trying to gin up an  impeachment level event.

    The best use of Bill Clinton?

    As a weapon. He goes out, and he kicks their asses about what the GOP is tryin got take away from you that is rightfully yours. They are stealing your access to better healthcare options.

    The Right gets how powerful that meme is.

    "They are stealing what is rightfully yours."

    They should have too die on their own crosses from time to time. They have earned it.

    At some point, you get the ACA rolled out the most effectively by putting the Right on the defensive. You have to fight for it, you can't 'BillSplain' it to them or to the bamboozled. The Right has muddied the waters because it's their contribution to the law. (Well, besides the bulk of the law itself.) Chaos and misinformation. Bill Clinton would be much more useful to rolling out the ACA by using his political gifts to flummox and embarrass the Right. Millions of Americans think the GOP has a point, because they believe, as good low-information voting Americans, that if they didn't have a point, they'd get called out on it. Beaten up if they kept on lying. It's not all that complicated. If the GOP is on the defensive, or looking humiliated, that's when the low-information Larrys listen to you. The assumption is that the GOP would pay a price if they were acting in bad faith and lying about the law. Bonus. They cannot take a punch, and have been blessed by opponents who bend over backwards to indulge them and their bad faith as if it is serious. The American people are confused because nobody is making a counter-argument to the bad faith Movement Conservative Right.

    If we gave the Right a fight, in fact, if we picked them and we kept on picking them before the last one was resolved, they'd lose more than they'd win because they are enabled in so many ways. The GOP is a wimp. If it was treated like it deserves, the people who don't want to feel like they are voting for a loser would be up for grabs. The GOP expects Democrats to bend over backwards to treat them as if they are serious. In 2013 it is political malpractice to keep doing the same old post-partisan Very Serious Person shit.

    I am a Loco-Foco. I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.

    by LeftHandedMan on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 05:12:36 PM PDT

    •  Seriously? (0+ / 0-)

      For decades, the primary goal of Republicans was to wipe out the New Deal/Great Society. Bill Clinton was the one Democrat who worked hard to give them what they wanted.  He took an ax to the Great Society as a necessary first step toward wiping out the New Deal (Many appear to be unaware that what became known as AFDC was actually written into FDR's Social Security Act of 1932.) Bill Clinton had time to begin dismantling the New Deal as well, starting with Social Security disability. While too complex to address in a simple post, Bill and Hillary Clinton have been powerful supporters of both NAFTA and workfare replacement labor, the two policies that are phasing out the middle class.

  •  Bill Clinton, Secretary of Splainin' (0+ / 0-)
  •  Bill Clinton calls on GOP etc. (0+ / 0-)

    Yeah, that'll work.

    The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

    by psnyder on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 06:24:06 PM PDT

  •  Retire the old dog (0+ / 0-)

    Enough with this embarrassment of an ex. Clinton is a bold hypocrite and an embarrassing habitual opportunist. While our "better off" remain oblivious to the fact, Clinton has caused more suffering and destroyed more families than any president in modern history, and has certainly set the country backwards by making (middle) class elitism cool again. Both NAFTA and workfare replacement labor have been working very well to phase out the middle class.

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