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House Republican leadership could be trying to figure out some constructive way to keep the government from shutting down in two week, an effort that so far they can't even get their own caucus to agree to. So instead, they're spending their time trying to figure out how to screw the Senate Democrats. Because that's what's most important.
House Republicans may force Senate Democrats to take a tough vote on subjecting lawmakers and congressional staff to ordinary treatment under ObamaCare in exchange for funding government beyond September.

The goal would be to inflict maximum political damage on Senate Democrats if they refuse to delay the implementation of the 2010 Affordable Care Act. [...]

If Boehner chooses this option, Democrats would have to vote to either to give Congress special treatment under ObamaCare—a politically unpopular move—or delay the implementation of the controversial law before getting a chance to consider the government-funding bill.

Remember why Congress is in the exchanges in the first place? Because Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley was trying to screw Democrats by offering it as an amendment in committee. He was sure that Democrats wouldn't want to have to be a part of the system they were creating. Instead of being embarrassed by it, Democrats embraced it. Of course, it was a poorly-written amendment, so it had to be fixed by new regulations from the Office of Personnel Management, and now those regulations are under attack. Because of the reality of how Congress works, often moving staff from congressional to political positions, and from personal to committee staff positions, OPM determined that it should be up to individual congressional offices to decide whether, and which, staff may be exempted. That's the "special treatment" Republicans are targeting.

Reality be damned, if there's an opportunity to play games over Obamacare. Meanwhile, the government has to be funded by October 1, or it shuts down.

Stand with Daily Kos and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in denouncing Republicans who would completely shut down the government just to destroy Obamacare.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 08:31 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (19+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 08:31:07 AM PDT

  •  House GOP "leadership" (3+ / 0-)
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    skillet, ericlewis0, kpardue

    is like military intelligence.

  •  Ready fire aim nt (3+ / 0-)
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    skillet, tampaedski, Joan McCarter

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:04:36 AM PDT

  •  Laser focused on jobs, I see... (6+ / 0-)

    Wow, they would be more productive and add more to our country if they literally did nothing, rather than obstruct.

    Ayn sucks. Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer.

    by Floyd Blue on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:05:34 AM PDT

  •  The Republican party is funny (2+ / 0-)
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    skillet, MartyM

    They're like an unorganized storm.  Trying to figure out which way to go while going in circles.  

  •  I should be more knowledgeable on exactly how (0+ / 0-)

    the details of the process works, but can't Senate Dems simply change the incoming House legislation however necessary in order to remove/revise the element that makes this a "tough vote" for Senate Dems?

    •  Or better yet, craft their own bill and then be (0+ / 0-)

      forced to send the thing to conference committee where it will never see the light of day before 10/1/13.

      •  Doesn't really work that way (1+ / 0-)
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        with budget bills. Even though constitutionally, the House is supposed to originate any bill that has to do with taxation, the tradition has expanded to any revenue/spending bill. So the House would summarily reject a budget bill that originated in the Senate.

        So what they could do to get around that is take a House bill that's sitting around, and "amend" it to be a budget bill--strip out whatever language is in it and substitute the budget.

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

        by Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:50:49 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Well, if it was a tough vote (1+ / 0-)
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      but it's not, particularly. Not anymore because the House has just been so ridiculous about it.

      What they can do is take any one of the bills the House has passed and sent over (my choice would be one of the 41 Obamacare gutting bills) strip all the language out of it and put in their own budget language.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

      by Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:48:46 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The only reason these sorts (1+ / 0-)
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    of poison pill type bills are introduced is so that the other party can run a hard hitting 30 second ad on the subject and change the conversation in a campaign. However, given that he Koch Bros and Rove super pacs didn't do much in 2012 , that tv advertising's effectiveness is on the wane, and that Democratic voters are pretty familiar with and like the ACA, this kind of threat isn't what it used to be.

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    by khyber900 on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:11:31 AM PDT

  •  Assholes and traitors to this country (2+ / 0-)
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    one and all of the GOP leadership.

    JOBS, JOBS, JOBS damn it

  •  Democrats: I'm puzzled. (2+ / 0-)
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    RichM, tampaedski

    I can understand how voting to keep the (gaddamyankee) Government (inWashington) running would be a "tough vote" for Republicans with Teabaggist constituents.

    I can also see how such Republicans would suffer at the polls if they were seen as ADVOCATING for the ACA.

    But maybe Democrats with electoral anxiety syndromes,  might consider that NOT pushing back on the topics of "shutting down government" and "more health insurance for more people" could result in more Democratic voter apathy,  and less Registered Democrat volunteerism for the 2014 election -- and beyond.

  •  enough (0+ / 0-)

    Can't the Federal Reserve just create money and lend it to Treasury?

    Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. John Kenneth Galbraith .

    by melvynny on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:28:31 AM PDT

    •  That's a debt ceiling (2+ / 0-)
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      solution (the $1 trillion coin) but not a budget solution. On this one, we're still talking about how to fund government starting Oct. 1.

      Once that fight is over, we have to fight over debt ceiling.

      Sigh.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

      by Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:52:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  It's sabotage (2+ / 0-)
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    The Republicans are really rolling out a lot of rope here.  Default on the (previously?) almighty dollar just to sabotage people getting health care?  These are death spirals for the full-of-shit GOP.

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:29:55 AM PDT

  •  When Do We Get to Put an "X" (0+ / 0-)

    for the eye of that GOPosaur?

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    by Limelite on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:36:40 AM PDT

  •  And GOP did this to themselves. The extreme (0+ / 0-)

    gerrymandering (done to keep their sinecure jobs in the House) resulted in such reactionary seat delographics that the inmates have seized control. Boehner is acting a bit like Lincoln described General Rosecrans after the Battle of Chickamauga:

    Rosecrans seemed "confused and stunned like a duck hit on the head."

  •  I'm confused (0+ / 0-)
    If Boehner chooses this option, Democrats would have to vote to either to give Congress special treatment under ObamaCare—a politically unpopular move—or delay the implementation of the controversial law before getting a chance to consider the government-funding bill.
    Does that mean Democrats don't have the option of accepting the loss of their health care subsidies without delaying implementation of the law?
    •  Well, they could vote for it (0+ / 0-)

      but they won't. Because it would be a disaster. Giving up subsidies would mean giving them up for staff, too. They currently get them in the form of the employer contribution of their health care, their employer being the federal government/taxpayers.

      Most staff wouldn't be able to afford to keep working if they didn't retain the subsidy--their premiums would be too high. This is something Republicans recognized when Boehner joined with Reid to lobby to get this fix in the rules.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

      by Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:56:25 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Is it such a disaster (0+ / 0-)

        That Boehner might back down if Reid engaged in some brinksmanship and signaled a willingness to vote for it and take the punishment?  If taking a hard line worked with Syria...well, Boehner is no Assad.

        •  It's not that hard of a vote (0+ / 0-)

          for the majority of Dems. It's just another stupid GOP game. And there are plenty of Senate Rs who really aren't too hot on the idea of flirting with a government shutdown. So we're not there yet.

          "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

          by Joan McCarter on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 10:22:10 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  I'm a little scared, in truth. (0+ / 0-)

    You know what they say about a cornered animal.

    There is, literally, nothing these desperate people won't do.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 10:11:22 AM PDT

  •  This is a lot of noise (0+ / 0-)

    that won't wind up being much in the end. The House Repubs, if they send a bill at all, are going to send something unreasonable in multiple ways. It's not like they're going to send a bill that Democrats could consider voting for except for the Obamacare provision - most of them don't want to be on record supporting a decent budget no matter what Obamacare strings are tied to it.

    The debate will wind up being about those differences, not this rather silly attempt to reduce subsidies. As worried as dems sometimes are about Republican attack ads on issues like this, I don't don't see this as being meaningful. I mean, it's actually worse for House dems than Senate dems, as they are the ones that would actually be forced to vote on it.

    98% chance this is a non-issue for practical purposes.

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    by eparrot on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 10:31:08 AM PDT

  •  Ug. (0+ / 0-)
    republican caveman
    Me no like rights, yo.

    The place was utterly dark—the oubliette, as I suppose, of their accursed convent.

    by bastrop on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 10:40:08 AM PDT

  •  Obamacare and Funding (0+ / 0-)

    Stopping the funding of Obamacare is neither pragmatic nor possible.  Yet those who were elected by hating Obama are forced to continue being against everything he does.  It may look like a blind man swinging at a Piñata but that is hardly the case.

    Those who attack Obamacare at any cost are not doing it for free.   In fact the more they attack Obamacare, the more money they have contributed to their campaign.  Who contributes?  The ideologues and corporate profiteers.  The ideologues are against Obamacare because they are against everything that is not 'them'.  The corporate profiteers are contributing tens of millions to protect their multi-billion dollar profits.

    The sad part of Obamacare critics is they fail to discuss the need or even the problem at all.  How sad.
    Larry Roberts www.obamacaredirectory.org

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