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On Monday, the House Rules Committee met to move forward with appointing conferees to meet with the Senate.  During that discussion, the Rules Committee suspended the rule regarding discharge petitions, making it so that only the Speaker or his designee can bring the bill to the floor.

The video is embedded below, the pertinent discussion starts about 4:50

It's pretty clear that this was done because they know they'll lose a clean CR vote.  It's pretty disgusting, it's pretty disturbing, and it shows just how far they'll go to get their way.

But it should hopefully put an end to the discharge petition discussion.  There was a lengthy parliamentary inquiry on the floor of the House today regarding this rule change.  It's all on Boehner now, and whether he realizes it or not, with this rule change he just ended his career.  It is now completely impossible to place the blame on anyone but him, seeing as how he is the only one that can bring a clean CR to the floor.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Friendly advice... (3+ / 0-)

    You should probably add the word 'petition' to your diary title.

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

    by RichM on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:15:46 PM PDT

  •  This is important (1+ / 0-)
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    It means that 17 "sane" Republicans can't vote with Democrats to pass a clean CR unless DWOL is one of the 17.

    I'm on a mission! Testing the new site rules.

    by blue aardvark on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:23:28 PM PDT

  •  If you can't win by the rules (3+ / 0-)
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    SoberGuy, pdx kirk, annominous

    change the rules seem's to be the Republican way.


    Why yes there is a war on women and minorities.

    by karma5230 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 04:00:56 PM PDT

  •  So Boehner is willing to put the will (3+ / 0-)
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    SoberGuy, JamieG from Md, pdx kirk

    of 24 teabaggers over the good of the country.

    A clean bill would definitely pass if it made it to the floor--but apparently those 24 dystopians have enough votes to dump Boehner if he lets it come up for vote.

    •  From what I can tell (0+ / 0-)

      Boehner can't be dumped until January 2015.  His decision to stick with the (Newt) Hastert Rule is killing the country.

      The easy thing to do is blame the Tea Party, and hey, they absolutely deserve it.  But Boehner deserves a crapload of blame as well, especially with this rule change and the refusal to bring a Clean CR to the floor for a vote.

      Enough to swap his district in Ohio that he won in 2010 65.9% to 30.1%?  Seems undoable....but is it?  Enough bad publicity and he could be completely out of office.

  •  So I assume FAUX news will be outraged (2+ / 0-)
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    SoberGuy, pdx kirk

    At this gross abuse of power. No wait... sigh...

    Man, Harry should take one look at this and tell the Senate Repubs to get it fixed or the Filibuster is GONE...

    Progress 365 not just a slogan a goal - 300 progressive seats in the House and 65 progressive seats in the Senate.

    by jusjtim35 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 05:05:00 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for this SG (0+ / 0-)

    I was wondering why the route of the discharge petition was not being talked about.

    9 to 4 on a committee because they are in the majority is exactly why voting matters especially in off year elections. They can rewrite any rule they like.'s on the table, under the watermelon she demurred. Thanks, I was planning on shaving anyway he replied.

    by pdx kirk on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 07:11:27 PM PDT

  •  HOPEFULLY? Who do you work for? (0 / 0) (1+ / 0-)
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    SoberGuy needs to come up with a better screen name. This post looks to have been written in a drunken stupor. But it shows why we are being pulled toward disaster not just by the radical right but with able assistance from unwitting allies on the left.

    Exactly what is the hope SoberGuy harbors? That we can at last stop having to hear that the House works by majority rule (how it’s not the Senate) so that we can get on with the really important business of concentrating our hatred onto John Boehner (for whom others feel sorry)? So that we can pray for him to have a come-to-Jesus moment? So that the Hastert Rule can be worked into a song on Schoolhouse Rock? So that we can all agree we're doomed?

    What exactly is SoberGuy’s civic ideal? No doubt a confused combination of all of the above.

    The House Dems should have gotten a discharge petition up and running as soon as they learned that the R’s were not going to compromise. I've put in multiple requests to my representative in Congress to do this. The ideal moment was months ago. The first refusal to take the budget to conference signaled what was up ahead.

    That move would have given time for pressure to be exerted on the 17 or 40 Republicans Peter King and others recently fantasized about (or was it 57? Oh, wait, that was Joe McCarthy.) Yes, they would have resisted, but the pressure on moderates would have been real. Very real. So real it might even have given SoberGuy his longed-for leg-thrill, watching Rove and Murdoch go up against the Kochs and de Mint.

    Unfortunately the Dems seem to have sat on their rears waiting for R's to break ranks spontaneously. This is not how the discharge petition played into the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It was not a silver bullet. It didn’t even come to getting 218 signatures. It was the first thing LBJ had encouraged and kept in motion. And it made tangible not by getting signatures but in the form of a veiled threat from LBJ to the chair of the House Rules Committee, the Pete Sessions of the day. The threat was humiliation. The actual names would have said, "F- you!" (And in contrast to Peter King, one thing LBJ could do is count votes. He knew just how to handle the negotiations because of this. But only a living and breathing d.p. made that possible.)

    More thrills would have been in store for SoberGuy! But SoberGuy is not so good at setting things up for thrills.

    Had signatures been gathered, does anyone imagine that Sessions would have pulled this stunt, which for all SoberGuy (and I) know is open to challenge? If a majority of the House were on paper asking for an up-or-down vote, even WaPo would have been unable to play it down the middle. It would surely have gotten more than an "Oh Mercy!" from Louise Slaughter.

    The reasoning in this post is sickening. Hopefully others can see this.

  •  Piling on (0+ / 0-)
    House Rules Cmte. took away discharge petition power on the CR this week
    By Simplify, Oct. 4, 2013
    Also, please do add the subsequent floor action, if you have the time!

    Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

    by Simplify on Fri Oct 04, 2013 at 02:52:01 AM PDT

  •  Parliamentary amendment? (0+ / 0-)

    It's becoming increasingly clear that we need to amend the Constitution to include some sort of parliamentary element.

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