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What troubles me at the moment is the question of treason. Commiting acts against our government which undermine or advocate the overthrow of our government. Acts such as huddling and conspiring to shutdown everything the new president brings to the table such as the Repugnants did the evening Pres Obama was elected the first time, to making their number one goal to make him a one term president, to holding our government hostage until he magically rescinds a law that has been passed and stood the test of law and apparently endorsed by the people, given the second election.

How is it that we cannot arrest the R's that are shutting down our economy and wrecking our democratic process for treason? If the shoe was on the other foot and the D's came to the table and threatened to shut it down unless the R's repealed a favorite Bush policy, they'd be all over us.

The democratic process, our 200+ year old government and process is under attack. Dont like a law, shut it down and make em take it back. Dont like a tax, shut it down.... Never mind that we have a process to repeal laws and disagree, no that only applies to laws the D's dont like. If it's something the R's dont like, well then we can handle that as a matter of budget and daily shutdown. All too many times, Obama and the D's have comprimised (which really meant given the R's whatever just to try and big the big boyz in the room and work across the aisle). We've given too much and trained the R's to expect it. Our fault. Obama tried to work with others when in reality they have/had no intention of comprimise. The evidence is all over the place written in the many filibuster and blockades aroudn every turn.

Wake up people, we need to educate and motivate our peers to vote and voice their concerns. The emperors new clothes only look good to the masses that dont speak out. All it takes is one to start the movement and others will follow. SPeak out, it is treason that the R's and teabaggers are commiting.

John Boner has zero balls and he is a coward among men. He is so scared to lose his gavel that he is willing to tank our economy and our democratic process to placate the crazies among them.

How do we go about filing charges of treason against these whack jobs? Something has to give or we will be in a meltdown the likes of which we have never seen, very soon. Economies will collapse and our way of life will change. The filthy rich will reap the benefits and finish buying up everything they dont yet own and then what? Servitude? We will be slaves. This is where it's headed.

By claiming Obama came to get the guns, they motivate the crazies but in doing so they also steal everything out the back door while the crazies watch the front door.
Armed revolt? I used to think it was crazy talk but I believe its coming. It will end up being a war in the streets and society will devolve into guerrila warfare right here in the good ole USA.

It's a very sad time in our society.

Sorry for the rant but I think our days of freedom are numbered.

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  •  Freedom's just another (3+ / 0-)

    word for nothing left to lose . . .

  •  Thanks for this. (0+ / 0-)

    Nothing fixes a thing so intensely in the memory as the wish to forget it. - Michel de Montaigne

    by Sandy on Signal on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 04:12:22 AM PDT

  •  Massive street assemblies are now in order. (2+ / 0-)
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    reflectionsv37, isabelle hayes

    Nothing shifts power quicker than massive unauthorized peaceful assemblies of the people as we reconnect to each other we will move to sort out this mess.  Open Our Government, NOW!   Other issues to be defined:   before, during and  after the assemblies.

    •  I agree but getting enough people to participate (0+ / 0-)

      is almost impossible. While almost all of us are sick of this crap, most of us are still not directly impacted by the shutdown. If Boehner forces default, we may reach a point where enough people are directly affected to get protests large enough to move Congress but at this point, giving the fact they seem to care less about a 5% approval rating, I'm skeptical that even massive protests would change anything. We're going to have to endure a completely avoidable recession and hope that people wake up and throw these treasonists out of office next fall.

      Let's not let 2014 be anything like 2010. Republicans only win when we stay home!

      by Tim D M on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 04:40:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I find it almost impossible... (2+ / 0-)
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    isabelle hayes, CoExistNow

    to imagine what the rethugs would do if the shoe were on the other foot. Just look at what they did to Bill Clinton over a personal issue. At the least, I'm sure they would be calling this a criminal act and demanding removing the Dems from office.

    In reality, I really can't fathom what steps they might take, but I am certain they would try everything imaginable and some things not imaginable.

    In my opinion, this is an overt act of domestic terrorism and those that are perptrating it are domestic terrorists. Somehow, the republicans have managed to convince a fair portion of the public that "the end justifies the means", laws and elections be damned. It is a very scary time for our country.

    I keep hoping that cooler heads in the GOP will bring this to an end before they the world economy goes up in flame. But I fear those standing around with the cans of gasoline can't wait to light the match.

  •  i'd like to think this is more kabuki (0+ / 0-)

    that such tantrums are being allowed to continue to keep the people anxious

    so they'll go out and buy more

    that this is the usual manipulation of the public

    but it could get out of control and trigger much more pain

    the most helpful thing out of this is that more of those in gerrymandered districts have become aware of the idiocy of their representatives

  •  64volvo - members of Congress (2+ / 0-)
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    wilderness voice, furrfu

    have broad immunity for their actions or non-actions as legislators. There is no way to indict them for any crime. The DoJ would never even consider it and no one in government would ever embarrass the Justice Department by even mentioning the possibility.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 06:44:47 AM PDT

    •  Understood (1+ / 0-)
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      wilderness voice

      the sad thing is though, the process was founded on the presumption of decorum and respect I suppose. I think there should be some way to insert a clause limiting the immunity to "while perfroming lawful duties" and when operating outside the constitutional law they should be run out of town.
      Logically I know it comes back to interpretation and in a decent respectful society no one will yell Fire in a crowded theater. We've gone over the edge and it's sad and hard to imagine how far this goes.

      Simple respect for the office of the President is a thing of the past. It seems that it has come down to the disgust of the old redneck white men in suits and in black robes and there is no more respect. The problem there is you lose self respect as well. Racism is alive and well in the US of A.

      Sad Sad Day.

      •  My favorite solution (0+ / 0-)

        would be a law against lying to the public.  That would take a constitutional amendment, tho'.

      •  64vovlo - I have a different view (0+ / 0-)

        I have been disheartened by the daily drum beat here at DKOS to somehow criminalize politics. That path is a two-edged sword that in the long run does not serve progressive interests, and violates the Constitution. The conflict between the House and the President is political and will be decided through direct negotiation. At this point in the process their is no role for the Courts, and certainly not the Justice Department.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 08:02:32 AM PDT

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      •  My question regarding their conduct is (0+ / 0-)

        are they not impeding the President's exercise of his constitutional duty by refusing to do theirs?

        What I mean is, by preventing him from executing and enforcing a duly passed and upheld law, ... I don't know enough to know what I'm asking.

        It just seems like their actions create a barrier for the President in his ability to carry out the requirements of his office as spelled out in the Constitution.

        But is that treason? It seems like it would fall under some other category of crime.

        Women do 2/3 of the world's work, receive 10% of the world's income and own 1% of the means of production.

        by LibrErica on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 08:04:55 AM PDT

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  •  Per the Constitution, treason consists of making (1+ / 0-)
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    wilderness voice

    war against the United States, adhering to her enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
       The Republicans aren't committing treason per se - although sedition is arguable.
       It rather resembles the situation that Boris Yeltsin had in the early days of Post Soviet Russia. There was no legal way to end the crisis of an insurrectionist parliament.
      Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
     But right now, the Pubs are moving to force the President to violate one or another laws.

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