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National Guard efforts in Colorado during recent floods

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Members of the National Guard remain in limbo during the shutdown, with their weekend drills canceled and the funding necessary for training exercises left unapproved. […]

“There will not be any weekend drills until the shutdown is over,” National Guard Association spokesman John Goheen said in a telephone interview. “The longer it goes on the more it degrades readiness. […]

“Throughout the year you have certain time frames to do certain types of training,” said Master Sgt. Paul Wade of the California Army National Guard. “In October, the new fiscal year starts so physical fitness tests, weapons qualifications, medical checkups — those didn’t happen.”

Well, at least they can go visit the war memorials.

Originally posted to Hunter on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 10:03 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  except in PA. (0+ / 0-)

    if the recent diary concerning certain 'truck bumpers' is to be prophetic. which i dearly hope it is NOT.

    Addington's perpwalk? TRAILHEAD of accountability for Bush-2 Crimes. @Hugh: There is no Article II power which says the Executive can violate the Constitution.

    by greenbird on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 10:42:17 AM PDT

  •  My youngest son... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    blue aardvark

    ...is in Basic Training right now for the Texas Army National Guard.  I wonder if those young people's checks are going to be as they should be?  

    I certainly know who to blame for this situation, however far and long it goes.

    Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given. (Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman)

    by marykmusic on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 11:03:50 AM PDT

  •  is this how the 'bagger GOP (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    blue aardvark

    hopes for armed insurrection to support their sedition

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

    by annieli on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 11:37:27 AM PDT

  •  Drills have been cancelled for the shutdown (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    blue aardvark
  •  HOT and just posted: (2+ / 0-)
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    marykmusic, theBreeze

    gud stuf.

    so READ NOW.

    Addington's perpwalk? TRAILHEAD of accountability for Bush-2 Crimes. @Hugh: There is no Article II power which says the Executive can violate the Constitution.

    by greenbird on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 01:05:34 PM PDT

  •  GOP Shutdown: Because we care. (1+ / 0-)
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    theBreeze

    The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

    by psnyder on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 01:09:38 PM PDT

    •  In Other News (0+ / 0-)

      Top GOP leaders announced today they had crossed the rubicon: "We have absolutely no one left to alienate, so our next epic battle will be to shut down the Republican Party"
      When asked what they hoped to accomplish, one top GOP Lobbyist replied "Obama is no."

  •  agreeing (2+ / 0-)
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    theBreeze, Heart of the Rockies

    Agreeing to a 6 week debt ceiling reprieve is foolish--not demanding a budget continuing resolution is insane.  They're nuts, we're just enablers.

    Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. John Kenneth Galbraith .

    by melvynny on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 01:18:12 PM PDT

  •  Picture says it all (1+ / 0-)
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    Heart of the Rockies

    Guardsmen do necessary and dangerous work. But screw them, right?

    I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

    by blue aardvark on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 01:19:12 PM PDT

  •  Uh oh -- I smell more (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    theBreeze, Heart of the Rockies

    piecemeal reopening legislation on the horizon. ; )

  •  The GOP Response to The Affordable Care Act (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    theBreeze, BldrJanet, ssgbryan, 88kathy

    A Brief History

    March 2010: "We can't believe you just passed healthcare."

    April 2010: "We are going to overturn healthcare."

    Sept 2010: "We are going to repeal healthcare."

    Jan 2011:
    "We are going to destroy healthcare."

    Feb 2012: "We are going to elect a candidate who will immediately revoke healthcare."

    June 2012:
    "We will go to the Supreme Court, and they will overturn healthcare."

    Aug 2012: "The American people will never re-elect you, because they don't want healthcare."

    Oct 2012: "We can't wait to win the election and explode healthcare."

    Nov 2012: "We can't believe you just got re-elected and that we can't repeal healthcare."

    Feb 2013: " We're still going to vote to obliterate healthcare."

    June 2013: "We can't believe the Supreme Court just upheld healthcare."

    July 2013: "We're going to vote like 40 more times to erase healthcare."

    Sept 2013:
    "We are going to leverage a government shutdown into defunding, destroying, obliterating, overturning, repealing, dismantling, erasing and ripping apart healthcare."

    Oct 2013:
    "WHY AREN'T YOU NEGOTIATING?"

    Lightly Seared On The Reality Grill

    by Retroactive Genius on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 01:24:37 PM PDT

  •  The district that includes northern Colorado (2+ / 0-)
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    ksuwildkat, Heart of the Rockies

    that was hit very hard by the flooding is represented in Congress by a Republican, who of course voted to shut down the government.  Jared Polis, a Democrat, represents Boulder which was also hit very hard and he has voted for every partial funding amendment, I believe in part so that at least some people can get back to work and help the economy of his district.  I think Democrats should be a solid block against the piecemeal approach, but I can sort-of understand his votes.  I don't live in his district - I live in Denver where Diana Degette has been solidly supporting clean funding bills.  Mike Coffman, the Republican just to the south, who is a birther (I call him a birther because he didn't correct one of his constituents on that score but sort-of agreed) also voted for shutdown.  He's in a tight race with the former Colorado Speaker of the House, Andrew Romanoff.  You can show him some love here.  Farther south is a real Tea Party guy but his district, while having military bases including the Air Force Academy and Cheyenne Mountain, well, he's not going to lose because they love the wingnuts down there.

    Not only is Colorado's National Guard forced to stand down and what is still going on is strongly reduced, Utah planned to send 150 Guardsmen to help Colorado and while they brought their trucks, they had to return to Utah since they had no funding to remain.

    I hope every single one of the Republicans who voted for the shutdown is defeated by a Democrat, as well as the candidates from that party who are challenging Senator Mark Udall and Governor Hickenlooper in next year's campaign.  Though by the time of that election, we may have two parties - Republican and Tea Party, running against the Democrats.

    BTW, Hickenlooper is trying to get the federal government to allow the state to manage Trail Ridge Road through Rocky Mountain National Park during the shutdown since this shutdown is occurring at the worst possible time for the town of Estes Park, which was absolutely devastated by the floods.  The two main roads to get there were washed out and with Trail Ridge Road closed, there's only a single road open to get there after about a three hour drive.  The fall season is Estes Park's prime tourist season as people come to see the herds of elk in Rocky Mountain NP and with the park shutdown, with a three hour drive to get there and with lots of businesses damaged by the walls of water that flooded downtown, the place is hurting and the shutdown is driving stakes into small businesses.  I don't know if he'll be successful, but the congressman who represents Estes Park must be held accountable for screwing them over.

  •  I talked with a friend my son today, (0+ / 0-)

    My son is getting married Saturday, and Carl is going to ride with me the 300 miles to the festivities.   He is with one of the Park/Forest services and was furloughed Oct. 1.   His part time work is being in the National Guard.  He and his wife have 5 young children, and she just gave birth a couple of weeks ago to twins.   She's off work too.  Why are some of us intent on digging deeper holes for our children to work their ways out of?

    The core of the Daily Kos behavior guide is simple: don't be a dick.~Kos

    by theBreeze on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 01:38:12 PM PDT

  •  HUGE economic impact (0+ / 0-)

    This may be the largest and most broad economic impact of the shutdown.  Drill pay cannot be made up.  If these Guard folks miss a full month of drill its not like they can drill twice to make it up (unless congress decides they can).  Drill pay is actually quite significant - $385 for an E-5 with 8 years, $750 for an O-3 with 8 years.  They represent the "average" for the Army National Guard.  With 19K members in just the Texas Army National Guard that means about $9.5 million a MONTH in lost wages.  Thanks Sen Cruz.  Im sure the people of Texas are happy about that.

    And that is just the impact on Drill pay.  Many Guard soldiers were scheduled to go on full time active duty on 1 October.  Not any more.  And because of the way funding works for bringing Guard and Reserve on active duty, that money also cannot be made up.  

    The Guard is spread all over this country and heavily concentrate in the more red areas of this country.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out when it hist these districts.

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 01:53:42 PM PDT

  •  They can get a payday loan at the bargain rate of (0+ / 0-)

    3686% annual percentage rate. They should be fine. /s

    Only gun owners can control their guns and they say oopsie way too much. I lost it, I forgot it, it just went off. Support Gun Kill Speed Limits and Gun Ownership Speed Limits.

    by 88kathy on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 02:00:47 PM PDT

  •  I was always under the impression that the (0+ / 0-)

    National Guard was under the direction of the Governor while on reserve status and became part of the Army when called into active duty.  If you remember Kent State, it was the Governor who called the National Guard to restore order, and it was they, not the Army, who turned that day into a tragic event.  Just like the guardsmen/women in CO., they got their orders from the Governor to respond to this crisis, as did the guardsmen/women in LA during Kathrina.  While I served during Vietnam in the Marine Corps, many of my friends back home had joined the National Guard hoping to avoid a tour there, but they were called up to active duty and assigned to a regular Army unit and deployed anyway.

    My brother-in-laws father was career MA National Guard and he gets his pension check from the state, not the federal, government, as he worked as a recruiter the entire length of his enlistment.  I know this as I prepare his tax returns each year.

    "With all due respect, that's a bunch of malarky". - V.P. Joe Biden

    by Taxmancometh on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 02:35:20 PM PDT

  •  In honor of all the women in the Guard (0+ / 0-)

    ... could you please correct your title?

    Thx!

    "The universe is made of stories, not atoms." -Muriel Rukeyser

    by tubacat on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 03:27:11 PM PDT

  •  Dear National Guardsmen (0+ / 0-)

    please never vote Republican again.
    They are not thinking about your needs AND they are supposed to be looking out for you... no matter what their party affiliation.

    and thank you for your service!

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