Skip to main content

I looked at the poll numbers and thought they were a little high at the time showing 35%; since I couldn't imagine that so many people could contemplate electing a raving lunatic.

I apologize profusely, it wasn't 35 % as the poll suggested, but a mere 45% that voted for the loon, oh wait...

Now some of you might want to mitigate this by low turnout, well there is a solution to that; get out and vote.

It also seems to be the case that women in Virginia prevented you from electing E W Jackson and the other anti-gay/anti-women Republicans running in Virginia

You can complain that perhaps every candidate in this State election was extremely flawed and it was so hard to choose. However, once again, that is a problem with a solution. Stop choosing people in your respective party that are poor candidates.

So I will repeat my previous conclusion

Rather than make me angry it just makes me profoundly sad, but at least we now know just how many people feel this way. Thanks to the Tea Party for exposing just how many  people agree with these hateful expressions; it's shame that there are so many.
'

I apologize however for underestimating the number.

12:37 AM PT: The winner in this?

The Tea Party v the Republican establishment

Originally posted to LaFeminista on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:04 AM PST.

Also republished by Virginia Kos.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  I also vastly misunderestimated the Yoga=Satan (15+ / 0-)

    demographic in Virginia. And for that, please allow me to add my abject apology.

    Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

    by earicicle on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:15:12 AM PST

    •  Now some will try and mitigate this by (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      caul, earicicle, stellaluna, bythesea

      turnout and party loyalty. I'm having problem taking this as an excuse, since it has gone on too long.

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:18:19 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I fail to see your logic (7+ / 0-)

        " I'm having problem taking this as an excuse, since it has gone on too long."

        Yeah, but that's the way it is, and has been.  All over the country, too.  (Even more so in an "off-year" election)

        As kos keeps reminding us: Texas would be purplish-blue-ish if blacks and Hispanics voted at the same rate as the rest of the country.

        I don't like it.  You don't like it.  But that doesn't mean it's not the reason for Virginia's close vote last night.

        Now some of you might want to mitigate this by low turnout, well there is a solution to that; get out and vote.

        Huh?  I feel pretty confident that all of us here, who live in Virginia, did vote.  And many of us worked on getting out the vote.

        But there's not much more I can do beyond making election day calls to folks to remind them to vote -- and I get an answering machine (which happens in at least 3/4 of the calls I make)

        Plus see metal-prophet's comment below:

        Most people aren't as into politics as you are or as I am. These people generally vote, hold sort of vague political views, but otherwise, politics doesn't intrude on their daily life very much. So, when Election Day comes, they push the button for whatever party they regularly vote for, without much thought.
        One other question: why do you think Virginia's elections are, specifically, held in off-years?

        My understanding is: it's to suppress the vote (and was done years ago by Dems for this purpose).

        Shake your fist -- but facts is facts: for decades, off-year elections have a lower turnout, and generally favors the GOP.  Not just 2013, and not just Virginia.

  •  No apology here. (12+ / 0-)

    Just profound sadness that nearly half of the whole country either supports or willingly enables these hate filled people. I'm lucky enough to live in a state where they are now just a tiny minority. I'd hate to live in their version of "real America."

    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

    by Mike S on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:24:38 AM PST

    •  I have come to the conclusion that it is (15+ / 0-)

      active support, until someone proves me wrong. I'm fed up of so called moderate Republicans whining at me.

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:26:23 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Excellent point. Nt (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        blueoasis, caul

        Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

        by Mike S on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:43:49 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Here's the thing, though (6+ / 0-)

      Most people aren't as into politics as you are or as I am. These people generally vote, hold sort of vague political views, but otherwise, politics doesn't intrude on their daily life very much. So, when Election Day comes, they push the button for whatever party they regularly vote for, without much thought.

    •  A look at the VA electoral map was quite sobering. (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      JG in MD, SouthernLeveller, annan, Yoshimi

      I checked early and often and was appalled to see Cooch in the lead, and while commenters assured us that northern VA (where I am) always comes in late, I was still nervous.

      Then I looked at the map this morning. There was northern VA, blue, and Albemarle/Charlottesville, blue, plus a few counties I had to mouse over to see (Nelson? Caroline?) Interesting that Northampton County voted for McAuliffe, but Accomack went for Cooch--they share the Eastern Shore, which has scenery and mosquitoes and not much else. You'd think "not much else" would all vote the same way.

      My former town Virginia Beach, sorry to say, is red (landlady there told me the burg us Teabagger Central). Long story short, the Commonwealth is a lot redder than I'd thought, and the close race makes me grateful for this blue area--and apprehensive that it can continue to counterbalance the rest of VA.

      •  Smarts won (3+ / 0-)

        but only by a hair.

        Counties that have colleges, universities, military bases, companies w/college grads went blue.

        No wonder the Rethugs and Tea Partiers are trying to defund education.

        I suddenly started a blog. http://jglookups.blogspot.com/.

        by JG in MD on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:49:43 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  That's what I'd have thought, except for the (0+ / 0-)

          military bases. Don't most military folks vote Republican?

          I'm interested in an explanation for the whole Hampton Roads area. Far as I know, Norfolk, Portsmouth, Hampton, etc. are majority-black cities, and if blacks tend to vote Democratic as I've long thought, that could counterbalance the military vote...? Who knows about Virginia Beach, however.

      •  The thing is... (0+ / 0-)
        the close race makes me grateful for this blue area--and apprehensive that it can continue to counterbalance the rest of VA.
        The blue parts are growing, and rapidly. The DC suburbs are one of the fastest-growing areas in Virginia, and the people moving there are more diverse ethnically and younger (read: more inclined to be Democrats) than the overall VA population.

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 05:12:15 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  I'm not sad (0+ / 0-)

      Clearly with people who vote like that there is no compromise, no middle ground.  This is a war, and they are the enemy.  Period.  It makes me energized--show no quarter and shine a light on their horrible political views.

    •  No, not half the country (4+ / 0-)

      on 37% of eligible voters voted in Virginia

      Virginia -- a state that used to be solidly red

      Virginia -- now has, for the first time since back in the 1970's when racist "Dixiecrats" ruled, two Dem Senators, and Dem Gov, Lt. Gov, and AG.

      I think some perspective is in order.

      I would also add that over the last three weeks of the campaign, voters heard 5 times more about the failure of the Obamacare web site than they did about where Cuccinelli stood on any issues.  And, indeed, of those who put healthcare atop their concerns, the Cooch won.

      The march to make Virginia blue is slow, it's still progressing, and it has fits and starts.

      But it is progressing.

      •  It's too bad the legislature (0+ / 0-)

        is so lopsidedly GOPer. That'll prevent T-Mac from repealing the forced-ultrasound (medical rape) law and from getting much progressive done. But he CAN expand Medicaid, now, which will really help VA.  If Herring wins, they can refuse to defend either the medical rape law or the ban on marriage equality in court.  But I don't see much hope of getting universal background checks through the H. of Dels.

        Clearly, Dems need to recruit better candidates and MUST hold the governor's mansion through the 2020 redistricting.

        The low voter turnout does not bode well for Dem chances to retake the U.S. House in '14. We MUST do better at GOTV, somehow!

        "I was not born for myself alone, but for my neighbor as well as myself."--Richard Overton, leader of the Levellers, a17th C. movement for democracy and equality during the English Civil War. http://www.kynect.ky.gov/ for healthcare coverage in Kentucky

        by SouthernLeveller on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 06:59:38 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Voters not voting isn't an excuse. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        earicicle

        I have never missed an election even when I had to race to get there with one minute left. There is simply no excuse for it.

        Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

        by Mike S on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:20:55 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  I've long felt, since the beginning of the (7+ / 0-)

    ...millennium, that it was quite dangerous to live in a nation that did not regulate media ethics and where corporate monopolies of the public airwaves was completely acceptable.

    And... people were allowed to vote.

    I don't really believe in democracies anymore, I'm sorry to say. I prefer to live in a Duchy.


    __________________
    "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
            -- Joshua, aka WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) automated nuclear-launch super-computer. "War Games," 1983.

    by Pluto on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:39:10 AM PST

    •  It's been argued for quite some time (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      caul, Kristina40, ZhenRen, Pluto

      by anarchists of the various social varieties that the centralizing effect of modern mass society leads to such huge aggregations of wealth, power and influence in a tiny set of hands, that nothing democratic remains or can be expected out of representative democracy.  It's the fundamental factor underlying the entire project of direct democracy.

      “Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. ” ― Paulo Freire

      by ActivistGuy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 01:44:11 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Just remember, though, that everything was AOK (0+ / 0-)

        until Bill "Beelzebub" Clinton took office. Only then was the gummint a tyranny and threat to all we hold dear. Then came the 8 great years of Shrub and his moral fresh air. And now we're back to groaning under the thumb of the Kenyan Muslim Socialist usurper. HOW will democracy survive??? WAKE UP, AMERICAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

        Honestly. Vanuatu's looking better by the day.

    •  Perhaps (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Pluto

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:14:35 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Well, you sussed me out. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        sidnora

        I am currently working on the Duchy of the Evolving Crown Pluto. At some point I'll post a link for those who'd like to live the Duchy-life.


        __________________
        "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
                -- Joshua, aka WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) automated nuclear-launch super-computer. "War Games," 1983.

        by Pluto on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 06:56:15 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  If it's any consolation... (6+ / 0-)

    ... the number of people agreeing with those expressions may be far less than the number of people who voted for him.

    After all, a disinterested spectator could just as easily turn the tables and say that all of us Obama voters are perfectly OK with looking forward on torture and other war crimes; bailing out Wall Street; drones; and so forth.

  •  There's also how... (14+ / 0-)

    the purge of the voter rolls knocked off about 40,000 people, including the wife of one of my friends who lives in Virginia.  They were pissed.  And they did it so it was too late for her to get it resolved in time to vote yesterday.

    Granted, not all of the 40,000 would've voted in this election.  A few of those names perhaps were indeed outdated.  Some may have been Cuccinelli/Jackson/Obenshain supporters.

    Still, in an Attorney General race where the latest count shows Herring only up by 616, but which David Wasserman says he'll lose when the last couple Republican precincts report in before we have a recount, those 40,000 purged names may very well have decided the race for Herring instead of Obenshain, given how close it is.

  •  I remember hearing of elections where people (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    LaFeminista, a2nite

    who were in jail got votes.

    Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

    by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 02:31:56 AM PST

    •  Eugene V. Debs (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      88kathy, Kristina40, enhydra lutris

      Labor leader, ran for U.S. President on the Socialist ticket and received over 1 million votes--from prison.

      "I was not born for myself alone, but for my neighbor as well as myself."--Richard Overton, leader of the Levellers, a17th C. movement for democracy and equality during the English Civil War. http://www.kynect.ky.gov/ for healthcare coverage in Kentucky

      by SouthernLeveller on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 03:47:41 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  There are quite a few I just googled it. (0+ / 0-)

        I was thinking of the one from North Dakota they refused to even seat in the Senate. The voters of ND had a great saying, 'it takes a crook to beat a crook' and kept sending him back to DC.

        People are funny.

        Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

        by 88kathy on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 03:56:41 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Why not? It depends on why they were in (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      88kathy

      Jail, such as Debs, already referenced.

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 09:44:57 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Yes Virginia there are reindeer, & Santa optional. (0+ / 0-)

    Living the austerity dream.

    by jwinIL14 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:02:29 AM PST

  •  What's really shameful is that we live (11+ / 0-)

    in a country where these wacko beliefs are not challenged by the media, but rather accepted as the "other side" for "balance" and the truth is forced to defend itself from all sides.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:27:01 AM PST

  •  Virginia had been reliably Republican for 50 years (6+ / 0-)

    until the last 2 presidential elections.  Now the tide has turned and Virginia is blue.   Democratic governor, democratic lt. governor, perhaps Democratic AG, both Senators from the state are Democrats.  

     We should focus on the fact that Virginia is no longer purplish and that pending a recount in the AG race there could well be a sweep of historic proportions (never before were the 3 executive positions held by Democrats at the same time both Senators were Democrats.)    

    So, 40-ish percent of Virginia and America are Foxnews bots who have various angst issues they can't resolve for themselves, so they have to shout it from the rooftops?  What else is new?  Don't give them too much credence.  

    The good guys won, and it is a pickup.   Things have changed in VA, and now the idiots who were seeking to restrict access to abortions by imposing unconstitutional and laughable rules (invasive ultrasound requirement, impossible building code requirement, etc.) can go pound sand, because even if someone tried in the state legislature McAuliffe would never sign such nonsense legislation.    Good.  

    •  Thank you! (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      stellaluna

      For adding some sorely needed historical context here.

    •  Wilder wasn't a Republican. /nt (0+ / 0-)

      Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
      I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
      —Spike Milligan

      by polecat on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 06:32:10 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yes, VA, electorally, is where (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      annan

      I want to see KY over the next few cycles.  We are ahead of VA in some ways (no right-to-work-for-less; banned for-profit, private prisons; no vaginal probe laws; workplace and housing civil rights protection for LGBT folk in our largest cities and one tiny town and huge support for a statewide version). But I can't wait until we get a Democratic senator, again.

      "I was not born for myself alone, but for my neighbor as well as myself."--Richard Overton, leader of the Levellers, a17th C. movement for democracy and equality during the English Civil War. http://www.kynect.ky.gov/ for healthcare coverage in Kentucky

      by SouthernLeveller on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:07:01 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  30 minutes of commentary on Morning Schmo.... (5+ / 0-)

    It's on autotune and I awoke to the ongoing dissection of Virginia election...

    Seated pundits were skewing Republican of course with Gov. Steele, Cokie Roberts and Bob Woodward and dems represented by mousey Mika and another very quiet woman....

    By the end, I was shouting at the tv in my head (it's 4 am)... NOBODY even MENTIONED women..... they focused on every potential reason for the breakdown of the vote, every demographic, every motivation EXCEPT women.... women being appalled by the prospect of THAT man becoming someone with the power to make it harder for them to get divorced.  Appalled about his attack on BIRTH CONTROL!  Appalled by the FIRST law on transvaginal ultrasound....

    NOT ONE WORD about the effect of women voters on the Virginia outcome.  NOT ONE WORD.....

    OK, repubs, keep it up.  Stay willfully blind.... and WE will keep voting, quietly, unobserved, uncredited.

  •  Was going to rec until your last comment (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    A DC Wonk

    The tea party did not win.

    "Disappointment is anger for wimps," -Dr. Gregory House

    by freakofsociety on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 05:29:38 AM PST

  •  Then you can only imagine how I feel in Texas... (0+ / 0-)

    Ted Cruz president? Pardon my Vietnamese, but Ngo Pho King Way.

    by ZedMont on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 05:32:50 AM PST

  •  Can you explain the concept to me that not (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    annan

    voting for impure progressive candidates is the only way to get a more progressive democratic party?  Because what I see is very centrist democrats barely winning elections because there are so many right wingers out there.  Would letting the kook become Gov. of VA make VA democrats think they needed a more progressive politician?  Or would it made them search for an even more centrist blue dog?  This is especially perplexing when the choice is so clear when it comes to women's issues.

    "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

    by stellaluna on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 05:57:01 AM PST

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site