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U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) speaks to the press following his private meeting with United States U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice about the attack on U.S. diplomats in Benghazi, Libya, on Capitol Hill in Washington, November 27, 2012.   REUTERS/Jason Ree
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Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) will introduce a bill in the Senate banning abortions 20 weeks after conception, the Weekly Standard reported Tuesday.
And do you remember how Rubio spent the next few weeks waffling, initially denying that he would be the bill's sponsor, then saying that he wanted to "be the bill's lead sponsor" but that it would be okay with him "if somebody else wanted to do it"?

Well, now we know the lucky winner of Rubio's game of abortion hot potato:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on Thursday introduced legislation that would ban abortions nationwide for women more than 20 weeks pregnant, the senator's office announced.
Lindsey is calling it the "Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act" but given that he faces a primary challenge, it's probably better to think of it as the "Pain-Capable Scared Incumbent Republican Senator Protection Act."

As for Marco Rubio, don't worry about him, he's still trying to burnish his freakshow credentials:

Marco Rubio to be keynote speaker at anti-gay group's annual event http://t.co/...
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Ah, the difficulties of being a Republican presidential hopeful. So many groups against which to declare war, and yet so little time.

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  •  Outreach continues unabated! (nt) (7+ / 0-)
  •  'unborn child' non sequitur (6+ / 0-)

    teathugs can't even name bill proposals using proper English

    ♥ Repeal the Capital Gains, Carried Interest & Dividends Entitlements bequeathed to 'more special' taxpayers.

    by in on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:42:11 PM PST

    •  Seems like they're not even trying on (3+ / 0-)
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      JML9999, shoeless, Aunt Pat

      several levels, e.g., what kind of acronyn is P-CUCPA?

      Almost makes one pine for the U.S.A. P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act days . . . .

      Almost.

    •  That's "pro-life" jargon (0+ / 0-)

      since "life begins at conception," it's a "child" from the moment sperm finds egg. Actually they more often use "pre-born child," which is even weirder.

      And actually, having given birth, during that last month you really do feel like it's a child that just hasn't taken a breath yet -- from hair to fingernails. Stillbirths in the 8th or 9th month are fully-formed babies who just never made it across the breathing-on-your-own transition. I just don't like them applying it all the way back to when you haven't even missed a period yet.

  •  Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) (5+ / 0-)

    as former Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) whining about the ideological extremism of the Tea Party is going to be hilarious.

    Just another one of those people who pandered to every extremist whim, until he was measured and found to be wanting.

    I bet, at least for a while, he even shows up on the Sunday Morning shows as if he is still a sitting US Senator to opine and whine. He probably cuts into Kay Bailey Hutchinson's network and basic cable grift as the True Believer, yet Coldly Wronged and Callously Discarded.

    The freak that replaces him is probably the only sad thing to come out of his fall from grace.  

     

    I am a Loco-Foco. I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.

    by LeftHandedMan on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:48:00 PM PST

    •  I enjoy watching these jerks get theirs (3+ / 0-)
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      devis1, Aunt Pat, MarthaPeregrine

      I really do.

      There is no way to pander your way out of having a giant conical hat propped on your head, a sign denoting your heresies and sins, hung around your neck, and then you being being burned at the stake.

      There is nothing about Lindsey Graham's orbit from the fainting couch to the outrage well being interrupted by the Inquisition finding him to be guilty of heresy that isn't funny as hell and as delicious as chocolate.

      The GOP wouldn't be where it is without the Koch Brothers, it wouldn't be where it is without the Corporate Suits, it wouldn't be where it is without the racists and mouth-breathers.

      But it also wouldn't be where it is without the Lindsey Grahams.

      They were fine with it, fine with it all, until it was time for them to be lead out to the stake.

      I am a Loco-Foco. I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.

      by LeftHandedMan on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:53:58 PM PST

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    •  He may well survive . . . or not. (1+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat

      S.C. Democrats can't find any credible candidate to run for U.S. Senate, so if Miss Lindsey makes it through the primary, he's home-free. As for the primary, three factors work in his favor: 1) he has bucketfuls of cash; 2) the political culture in S.C. remains very complacent, in which incumbents tend to get re-elected over & over & over again; 3) he's facing not 1 but 3 primary opponents, & there's no sign yet that the teabaggers are coalescing behind a single candidate.

      But no matter what happens, what is certain is that S.C. will be represented in the Senate by some execrable, reactionary asshole. But maybe, just maybe, if he gets turned out of office he can finally come out of the closet.

  •  GAHHHHHH! This makes me so ragey! (3+ / 0-)

    what the hell is wrong with the country in which we overthrow common sense and science in favor of extreme positions that have the potential to harm over half of the population?

    I want to punch someone in the face >:(

  •  Linseed Grahamcracker (2+ / 0-)

    is beginning to become the toilet of the GOP.

    Dump it on Linseed.  He don't mind.


    "The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance, but to overcome it" - Dr. Lawrence Krauss

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:51:58 PM PST

  •  After 5 months, there are no "elective" (5+ / 0-)

    abortions, everyone who can't have a child has made that decision prior.....these abortions are the ones where the baby was wanted but something is wrong......and the pain thing is TOTAL BS.  

    "The poor can never be made to suffer enough." Jimmy Breslin

    by merrywidow on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:52:19 PM PST

    •  Exactly! There was a case I remember where a (2+ / 0-)
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      merrywidow, Aunt Pat

      pregnant woman was in a car accident, went into a coma, and the doctor recommended an abortion because it would increase her chance of survival and the chance she could heal and come out of the coma.

      The husband was willing to do this and signed the paperwork but some rightwing nuts tried to stop him and went to court trying to get custody of the fetus.  

      It was so long ago but I remember it because I was so appalled that these nut cases who were strangers to this woman, wanted to stop the doctors from doing what was medically reccommended that could save her life..all they cared about was the baby.

      There are some rightwing nuts who think it is noble that a woman be willing to die so her baby can live..they feel we should always choose the fetus over the health of the mother and over everyone else who is living.

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      by wishingwell on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:18:28 PM PST

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  •  I'll let George Carlin speak for me. (5+ / 0-)
    Now, is a fetus a human being? This seems to be the central question. Well, if a fetus is a human being, how come the census doesn't count them? If a fetus is a human being, how come when there's a miscarriage they don't have a funeral? If a fetus is a human being, how come people say "we have two children and one on the way" instead of saying "we have three children?" People say life begins at conception, I say life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous process. Continuous, just keeps rolling along. Rolling, rolling, rolling along.


    "The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance, but to overcome it" - Dr. Lawrence Krauss

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:53:45 PM PST

  •  This one is too easy (3+ / 0-)
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    Just continue to call it the Rubio abortion bill.

    I don't negotiate with terrorists. I don't vote for them, either.

    by thenekkidtruth on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:56:39 PM PST

  •  On the ballot in Albuquerque New Mexico (2+ / 0-)
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    Looks like it's going to Fail:

    Pro-choice Albuquerqueans are on the cusp of a major victory and city Democrats have a good shot at taking over the city council in the November 19 election.

    Those are the findings of an exclusive, scientific poll conducted Wednesday night for New Mexico Politics with Joe Monahan.

    The survey shows the proposal to ban late term abortions stands a very good chance of being defeated. 56.3% percent of likely city voters opposed the proposed ordinance, 37.4% support and 6.4% are undecided.

    ----Joe  Monahan (no direct link; in the future look for Thursday, November 07, 2013)

    The referendum is the 20 week abortion limit.

    Notice: This Comment © 2013 ROGNM UID 2547

    by ROGNM on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 12:59:59 PM PST

  •  Graham: "Nothing bad is going to happen," (2+ / 0-)
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    WASHINGTON -- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) introduced a bill on Thursday that would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy in the United States unless the woman is a victim of rape or incest or her life is in danger.

    Graham said that while reproductive rights advocates claim the bill will have a negative effect on women's health, he thinks it would only result in more people being alive.

    "Nothing bad is going to happen," Graham said. "Good things will happen. Babies will be born that wouldn't have made it otherwise, and only God knows who they will grow up to be."

    Uh Charlie Manson,Heriberto "Eddie" Seda,Ed Gein

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:00:46 PM PST

  •  Now there's a game the whole family can play. (3+ / 0-)
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    Egalitare, wishingwell, Palafox

    New, from Hasbro, Hot Potato Fetus Edition! Try to pass the fetus on to the next person before you get asked about it by the press corps! **

    **Ages 47 and up. Need not be present to get blame. Side effects include increased exposure on Sunday talk shows, Tea Party challengers, and an inability to look at one's face in the mirror.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:02:02 PM PST

  •  Reid should call his bluff (3+ / 0-)
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    Promise - loudly and publicly - to bring it to the Senate floor the moment that the House votes on ENDA.

    They want to have this "debate", let's let them have it good and hard.

    The thing about changing the world... Once you do it, the world's all different. (Joss Whedon, BtVS Season 8 "The long way home")

    by sab39 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:02:19 PM PST

    •  That would be awesome (1+ / 0-)
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      I would turn on CSPAN for that.

      "We need institutions and cultural norms that make us better than we tend to be. It seems to me that the greatest challenge we now face is to build them." -Sam Harris, neuroscientist

      by MarthaPeregrine on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 02:15:10 PM PST

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      •  But that's what the Rs need, a federal vote as to (0+ / 0-)

        abortion rights, to give them a chance to whip up what's left of their base in 2014. I'm just glad ENDA got passed so somebody, a lot of somebodies, can get off the mourning bench, because in this time it sure ain't gonna be women.

  •  Graham-cracker needs to go full bore crazy (2+ / 0-)
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    for the next few months to prove he is Tea-Bag worthy!
    Only full-bore hate and extremism will stave off his lunatic primary challenger.

  •  lindsey graham does look a central casting (1+ / 0-)
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    B movie Vice Presidential candidate loser schmoe.

    Don Benedetto was murdered.-IgnazioSilone(BreadAndWine)

    by renzo capetti on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:09:18 PM PST

  •  Pain-capable, rosy-cheeked, babbling, bubble- (1+ / 0-)
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    Palafox

    blowing, cooing white child protection (until they're born) act of 2013.

    Oh my god, it's full of cheese! - 2001 first draft

    by sizzzzlerz on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:10:23 PM PST

  •  The MSM will not pause to reflect... (0+ / 0-)

    ...that the standard has bypassed some medical consensus of viability to some arbitrary presumed ability to "experience" pain.

    Has a "presumed aborted until proven miscarried" bill  been rolled out yet?

    Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:14:44 PM PST

  •  My Bill (2+ / 0-)
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    Would ban any federal funding for second procedures for substantially similar medical problems for those over 75.  We have a lot of people older people who routinely engage in risky activity like walking, eating solid food that is tasty, or having a drink with friends.  Much like the young girls who just like to have sex for no apparent reason, get pregnant, then expect an abortion, these older people engage in these unnecessary behavior and end up repeatedly in hospital rooms for another hip replacement, another heart surgery, another costly series of tests for head trauma.

    While these patients can choose to go to any privately funded hospital, the taxpayer should not be required to pay for their frivolous lifestyle.  Further restrictions for transplants and first time procedures will be made after 80.

  •  You guys are all crazy! (0+ / 0-)

    Who better to understand and empathize with a pregnant woman, than an unmarried man  - a never married man with no children - who's constantly looking over his shoulder for the TeaBag opponent in his re-election?

    C'mon you guys are being really cynical here - he's perfect for the job !

    Us wimmins need a guy like him to tell us what's good for us, coz bob knows we certainly aren't bright enough to figure it out for ourselves. ;-)

    I'm a sanctimonious purist. Whatchya gonna do about it?

    by speedingpullet on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 01:44:09 PM PST

  •  Phew! (0+ / 0-)

    The Rubio abortion bill is a rotting slab of meat -- the only creatures that find its fetid odor attractive are the vultures of social conservatism and the annoying flies of the tea party.

    Let us pause now for a moment of SCIENCE

    by labman57 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 06:36:01 PM PST

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