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Republicans are AGAINST ... the Minimum Wage.  Not just against Raising the Minimum Wage -- but they are against the actual IDEA of the Minimum Wage, itself.

Simply incredible.  Incredible faith they have there, in the Free Market -- being able to solve all societal issues.  

GOP Rep. Joe Barton Calls For Minimum Wage Repeal

by Sabrina Siddiqui, -- 12/05/2013

President Barack Obama's call to raise the minimum wage has long been met with resistance from congressional Republicans, but Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) took things a step further by suggesting the minimum wage be done away with entirely.

"I think it's outlived its usefulness," Barton told National Journal in a story published Thursday. "It may have been of some value back in the Great Depression. I would vote to repeal the minimum wage."

The story didn't include any specifics on why Barton felt the minimum wage had lost its value, and a request to his office for further explanation wasn't immediately returned.

"Just Because ..."

Republicans are AGAINST ... Food Stamp Assistance (aka. SNAP).   Not just against keeping people from starving -- but they are against the actual IDEA of the Feeding someone without a day's worth of labor, in exchange.

Simply incredible.  Incredible short-sightedness they have there -- especially considering that the majority of SNAP beneficiaries, happen to live in their own Republican "under-employed" Districts.  Oops!

Interactive: Republicans More Likely to Have Constituents Who Use Food Stamps
with Infographic clickable map

by Chris Wilson and Alex Rogers, -- Dec. 04, 2013

Representative Austin Scott, one of the farm-bill conferees, represents a district in southern Georgia in which approximately 1 in 4 constituents currently receives farm-bill aid, according to the data -- considerably above the national average of 15%.

When asked about the program on Tuesday, Scott suggested that abuse of the system warrants the cuts in the House bill.

“Anybody who is realistic acknowledges that there is some abuse in the system, and those abuses need to go away,” Scott said. “We’re going to protect seniors, we’re going to protect the disabled and those that can’t work, but if someone can work, then they’ve got a responsibility to work.”

Republican Representative Steve King of Iowa, the House subcommittee chairman on nutrition -- whose district has below-average SNAP enrollment -- says the four principal negotiators may have to decide to “put a number down on a piece of paper and roll the dice.”

That's just swell. Republicans' responsibility even to their own Constituents has boiled down to a "crap shoot" -- can they continue to rage against "Society's moochers," while at the same time NOT hurt their own re-election chances -- with the very people they are railing against.

That's some tight-rope there Steve King. Better hope you don't run into a "stiff breeze" ... There's a populist movement brewing on the working-class horizon, don't you know?

Republicans are AGAINST ... the Collecting of Corporate Taxes (aka. They are FOR inventing new "Repatriation Deals" to coax those "foreign" Corporate Windfalls back to the Homeland).  

And they are just plain AGAINST the IDEA of Taxing Profits -- be it Capital Gains, CEO Pay, or the simple exploitation of foreign labor -- ANY Profit that was gotten WITHOUT a day's worth of labor, itself.  That's something that Republicans are perennially FOR ...

Corporations Owe Hundreds of Billions of Taxes But GOP Goes After Federal Employees

by Dave Johnson, -- 11/27/2013

Uncollected Taxes

You may have heard that multinational corporations are holding somewhere in the range of $2 trillion outside of the country, to avoid paying the taxes they owe when they bring the money back to the U.S. This is because of a loophole called "deferral." Profits made outside the US are not taxed if the company doesn't repatriate the money.

Because of this loophole companies move jobs, factories and profit centers outside the country, and companies that do not are left at a disadvantage. The taxes due on this money are somewhere upwards of $700 billion. The amount held outside the country grows every year -- along with the number of jobs, factories and profit centers companies move to take advantage of this.

This would bring in hundreds of billions revenue as well as more than $1 trillion toward investment and/or shareholders. Republicans refuse to address it, preferring instead to go after government employees, food stamps, etc.

How's that "invisible hand" idea been working out for you lately? ... Its been more like an "invisible pick-pocket" if you asked me.  When do we get to share in the benefits of our ever-increasing productivity?  When do we get to support the "creation" of Good Jobs, here in America, instead of constantly enabling and coddling, the outsourcing Jobs to somewhere overseas -- Tax Free !?

Republicans are FOR ... Corporations being subsidized by America's Public Assistance programs (aka. "Corporate Welfare").  So long as those unencumbered Corporate Profits, keep rolling in. Whatever the worker-fallout. ("Workers" are always replaceable -- expendable in the Republican-Corporate-Profits worldview.)

Simply incredible.  Incredible faith they have there, in the compliance of the American People -- to stand by and not notice, that someone (many someones) are getting corporately short-changed.  Wage Stagnation is not just a theoretical construct. It makes those Corporate Ledgers soar ...

Strikes close some "fast food outlets, but strikers are aiming for something bigger

by Laura Clawson for Daily Kos Labor -- Dec 05, 2013

[...] Pushing blame off onto franchise owners is one of the most common responses from fast food chains when poor working conditions are publicized; really, though, poverty wages and bad conditions are an industry-wide strategy. If McDonald's corporate management wanted to raise wages, franchisees would no more stand in the way than they currently get to decide on the menu they serve. [...]

That's why we see McDonald's advising workers to apply for food stamps or sell their Christmas presents. It's why 52 percent of front-line fast food workers are on public assistance, to the tune of nearly $7 billion a year. The conditions these workers are fighting are the conditions the entire fast food industry is built on. [...]

Republicans are FOR ... Corporations being empowered to continue to bilk the public -- both the low, low-wage working public ... and the low, low-price consuming public, too.  That's the sound of our Future, crashing ...

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

Prepared by the Democratic staff of the U.S. House -- Committee on Education and the Workforce -- May 2013

Executive Summary

[...] As the largest private-sector employer in the U.S., Wal-Mart’s business model exerts considerable downward pressure on wages throughout the retail sector and the broader economy. This model has multiplied across the sector. While employers like Wal-Mart seek to reap significant profits through the depression of labor costs, the social costs of this low-wage strategy are externalized. Low wages not only harm workers and their families -- they cost taxpayers.

When low wages leave Wal-Mart workers unable to afford the necessities of life, taxpayers pick up the tab. Taxpayer funded public benefit programs make up the difference between Wal-Mart’s low wages and the costs of subsistence. This public subsidization of the low-wage model of companies like Wal-Mart received significant attention in the early 2000s. With wage stagnation, income inequality, and federal budget deficits of increasing concern to public policy, this issue is due for a re-examination.

That some system there Wal-mart. Just keep YOUR consumers happy with low, low-discounts -- and maybe they won't notice that, it's their personal Taxes, that help keep YOUR workers from starving every year.


Republicans are FOR ... Corporations being "protected" to short-change their workers -- and AGAINST Public Assistance being able to supplement their Hunger-wage tables, too.

Simply incredible.  On one hand Republicans oppose the Minimum Wage, while on the other hand, they oppose the subsistence-programs that help the very-same lowly UNDERPAID workers, who being forced to take it.  Those Poverty-Wage Jobs.

What choice do they have?  Since the "Good Jobs" Economy is going so "gang-busters," thanks to the GOP refusal to EVEN consider passing the American Jobs Act. Oops! Sorry about that Unemployed workers ... just "struggling to survive, at Society's on-going expense.

The Public cost of low-wage Jobs in the fast-food industry

by Sylvia Allegretto, Marc Doussard, Dave Graham-Squire, Ken Jacobs, Dan Thompson and Jeremy Thompson; -- Oct 15, 2013

Executive Summary

Nearly three-quarters (73 percent) of enrollments in America’s major public benefits programs are from working families. But many of them work in jobs that pay wages so low that their paychecks do not generate enough income to provide for life’s basic necessities. Low wages paid by employers in the fast-food industry create especially acute problems for the families of workers in this industry. Median pay for core front-line fast-food jobs is $8.69 an hour, with many jobs paying at or near the minimum wage. Benefits are also scarce for front-line fast-food workers; an estimated 87 percent do not receive health benefits through their employer. The combination of low wages and benefits, often coupled with part-time employment, means that many of the families of fast-food workers must rely on taxpayer-funded safety net programs to make ends meet.

Main Findings

-- The cost of public assistance to families of workers in the fast-food industry is nearly $7 billion per year.

-- People working in fast-food jobs are more likely to live in or near poverty. One in five families with a member holding a fast-food job has an income below the poverty line, and 43 percent have an income two times the federal poverty level or less.

-- Even full-time hours are not enough to compensate for low wages. The families of more than half of the fast-food workers employed 40 or more hours per week are enrolled in public assistance programs.

Republicans are AGAINST ... the Collecting Corporate Taxes (aka. Have they got a Repatriation Deals for you -- Corporate Persons!).  

They realize Corporate Persons have no "natural" allegiance to this Country (fake artificial persons, can be that way) -- SOOO they must be coaxed to invest here -- with recurring low, low-tax rates -- afterall it's the American GOP Repatriation Way!

Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) unveiled an international tax reform discussion draft as part of the Committee’s broader effort on comprehensive tax reform that would lower top tax rates for both individuals and employers to 25 percent.  In addition to rate cuts, the plan would transition the United States from a worldwide system of taxation to a territorial system -- a move virtually every one of America’s global competitors has already made.

The Ways and Means discussion draft would:

    Reduce the corporate tax rate to 25 percent -- bringing it in line with the average of countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).  The Committee continues to examine base broadening measures that will replace the revenue foregone by reducing the corporate tax rate, so these measures are reserved in the discussion draft for future release.

Shift from a worldwide system of taxation to a territorial-based system.  The new plan:

-- Exempts 95 percent of overseas earnings from U.S. taxation when profits are brought back to the United States from a foreign subsidiary.

-- Frees up existing overseas earnings to be reinvested in America after they are taxed at a low rate in line with current repatriation proposals.

Repatriate your Profits in America now, Corporations. No worries the GOP has got that Base Wage situation covered for you, too.  And Unions, no problem! Have you heard about what the Republican-led state government just did to the City of Detroit?  Union pension-promises? Those have been sent packing.  Along with so many priceless works of art, and the historic artifacts of a by-gone cultural heritage ... ALL simply GONE!  Poof!  To be Sold-off to the highest {fire-sale} bidders.  You know, that Free Market GOP way.

Step right up Corporate Re-Patriots -- America is once again The Land of Opportunity. Just primed and ready for the taking, "at low, low, discounted-prices" (courtesy of Wal-Mart™).

The Austerity Auction continues -- SO don't miss the steals. Come back quick now, you hear?


In Summary:

Republicans are AGAINST ... just about ANYTHING, that average Working Americans are FOR.

Any Questions?

If so, then you can start to ASK your average Republican WHY?

Why are they against the Minimum Wage?

Why are they against the American People earning a decent living, with enough of the subsistence-benefits that "our common civilization" attempts to offer -- to actually make their minimum wage lives ... worth living?

Are Republicans also AGAINST ... just plain old Survival itself, too?

Sadly, it would seem SO.  They stand for something ... It's just NOT the common good. It's just NOT Opportunity for ALL.

It's something else entirely.  Republicans stand FOR ... Abolishing the Minimum Wage ...

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  •  Because the evilRW wing nut party hates humans (5+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 01:52:42 PM PST

  •  I am surprised Joe Bartin said it out loud (4+ / 0-)
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    Republicans have been against the minimum wage for a long time, but rarely say so in public. One of the reasons we go for long periods without any increase is that the Republicans hope that the free market will increase wages to more than the minimum wage, thereby making the minimum wage moot. Republicans have a free market view of wage rates. In all of our metro areas there are thousands of employers and hundreds of thousands of workers. That represents a nearly perfect market where the agreed upon wage rate represents the market clearing price between employers and employees. That's why you may not see the GOP bring a minimum wage increase to the House floor before the midterms. If they do bring a bill, I think it will be for approximately $9.00 in two steps and in September 2014, just in time for the general election campaign season.

    Personally I think the minimum wage represents an important floor that protects those least able to negotiate higher wages. When I started working my first job was at the minimum wage at the time, $1.00 an hour.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 02:03:15 PM PST

    •  My first job was at $2.00/hr. (2+ / 0-)
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      Washing dishes.

      "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

      by elwior on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 02:08:38 PM PST

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    •  Nearly perfect market? Not at all. (7+ / 0-)

      Currently low wages are subsidized with govt.programs to the extent that calling the current wage structure a "market clearing price" is laughable on its face.

      "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

      by tardis10 on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 03:04:15 PM PST

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      •  Let us be perfecly clear (8+ / 0-)

        The companies paying the low wages are being subsidized by having employees on SNAP, Medicaid, and so on.

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 03:36:40 PM PST

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      •  The definition of a market clearning price is when (0+ / 0-)

        a willing buyer and seller meet in the market and goods or services are exchanged for currency. Wages certainly meet that test. If there were no government programs, and no minimum wage requirement, would the lowest tier of wages go up or down? Why?

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 04:51:59 PM PST

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        •  Both your willing buyer and willing seller (5+ / 0-)

          are "negotiating" based on the sellers ability to get a hold of basics like MedicAid,SNAP, EITC.,etc. And to the extent the wage earner does not know this,why the boss is willing to enlighten her. (see:McD's helpful hints for employees) This isn't your "perfect market" scenario,far from it. It is simply business leveraging their control over the government. Captured government 101.

          As to your final query? Rather obviously,when wages get too low & people's needs are not met,revolution happens. Less obvious,before that revolt,a corrupted government puts the brakes on dissent. (in many and varied ways) And sometimes that works,for awhile. A smarter government rebalances the playing field. Should we all awake tomorrow in your unregulated and unsubsidized world,I imagine that all wages would be all over the place as would your tiers. (& maybe tears) Now I know there are those who believe that the world runs on barbarism. Not me. For myself,I'd rather pay a fair wage for a fair day's work as FDR was wont to say. De-valueing labor generates a host of societal ills that diminish the quality of life for all,not just those who are underpaid.

          (warning,some snarkasm ahead)
          Such a delicate balance to concoct,isn't it? How to keep the poor busy and quiet? (in the US,incarceration seems to often be used to answer that one) How to keep the worker,working for less? (class/gender/race division and circuses so far) How to ....

          Btw,have you ever read much over here John Fullerton's outfit. To the right of moi,but that doesn't mean there isn't good stuff there.

          "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

          by tardis10 on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 05:53:53 PM PST

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        •  Knowledgeable, willing, and unpressured actors (5+ / 0-)

          are assumed conditions to create a fair market clearing price.

          The vast majority of wage labor offered does not meet either the knowledgeable or unpressured conditions.  Imperfect information, and undercapitalization by sellers of labor and sub-market concentration among buyers of labor, give market power to buyers.

          Labor law and freedom of association attempt to offset that advantage.

          Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

          by benamery21 on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 06:57:47 PM PST

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    •  See Rudyard Kipling, (5+ / 0-)

      Captains Courageous, where toward the end two captains brag about starting at $10/month and $8/month, plus a hammock and all the fish they can eat. Or Haiti, where Eduardo Galeano once wrote

      The wages Haiti requires by law belong in the department of science fiction: actual wages on coffee plantations vary from $.07 to $.15 a day.
      What this world needs is a good labor shortage, which means at least two things. We have to complete the so-called demographic transition to zero population growth, and possibly decrease our numbers here and there somewhat. We also have to get well into the combined social, political, and economic transition to sustainable government and economics everywhere. It appears that we will have to allow business to move from all of the formerly low-wage countries into all of the remaining low-wage countries and drive up wages in each and every one of them until there are none left, just as happened in post-war Japan and a fair number of others.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 03:35:10 PM PST

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  •  i have always said that if you don't want to raise (10+ / 0-)

    the minimum wage then you MUST want to lower it or abolish it entirely because your argument can't be that it's set at the ideal level

    if you are against going from 7.25 to 8.00, you must believe 7.25 is too high

    Sarah Palin is a disgusting racist pig.

    by memofromturner on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 02:11:48 PM PST

  •  of course they are (3+ / 0-)

    the poor are to be blamed for their condition...if they were better people, they wouldn't be poor.

  •  Why? --- Then the facebook GOP go into the (4+ / 0-)
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    jobs are menial and should not be paid more because they aren't worth it.

    They even have a picture story of and angry black man screaming demanding $15 an hour for doing a menial job in a fast food joint, while 2 humble white EMT men load an ambulance for $9 without complaining.

    Why is it easier to buy a gun than it is to register to vote in most states?

    by 88kathy on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 02:37:45 PM PST

  •  Hong Kong, Milton Friedman's wet dream (11+ / 0-)

    for laissez faire, brought in a minimum wage a couple of years ago.  It was the last developed entity to do so.  They did it because workers working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week as security guards or cleaners could actually make so little they simply literally could not live without considerable government assistance.  Hong Kong, the "world's freest economy" according to the Heritage Foundation, provides heavily subsidized housing to about 50% of its population (7% of your annual wage if income is below a certain level) with subsidies also to lower middle class families to buy homes.  It provides nearly free healthcare, subsidized travel for the poor, and in this city of over 7 million, only about 600 people live on the streets--all by choice because government workers try all the time to get them into shelters and they refuse to go or stay there.  The government and legislators finally decided that the minimum wage had to be implemented to keep businesses from exploiting that government assistance in a systematic effort to cut their costs (and offload them onto the taxpayers).  Hong Kong finally woke up to what the US needs to realize:  government assistance for people with full time jobs exists because companies exploit it, deliberately.  A low or non existent minimum wage will simply remove the barriers and companies will offload all they can onto the taxpayers.  A higher minimum wage, indexed to inflation, is something every single taxpayer in the US should support, for it makes businesses have to compete without hidden subsidies from taxpayers.  There are good reasons for genuine liberals and conservatives to support a livable minimum wage--only business people who, as Adam Smith said, "every time they meet, conspire to defraud the public" are the ones who oppose a fair minimum wage.

    America needs a UNION NEWS channel. We (unions) have the money, we have the talent. Don't buy 30 second time slots on corporate media, union leaders; fund your own cable news channel and tell the real story 24/7/365

    by monkeybrainpolitics on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 03:02:44 PM PST

  •  Excellent jamess; Dave Camp and his BS.. (5+ / 0-)

    ..repatriation tax avoidance; same trick the GOP always pulls:

    Exempts 95 percent of overseas earnings from U.S. taxation when profits are brought back to the United States from a foreign subsidiary.
    -- Frees up existing overseas earnings to be reinvested in America after they are taxed at a low rate in line with current repatriation proposals.
    We Dems should keep focus on what Meteor Blades brought up in this Open Thread for Night Owls recently:

    The Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act

    Because Complying With U.S. Tax Evasion Law Is Vexing Foreign Banks


    Offshore Tax-Haven Data Made Public As Companies Brace For Scrutiny

    Oregon is on board: OSPIRG's Christine Meiffren talks about Oregon Law to Ban Offshore Tax Havens

    Since the Guardian exposed this story:Leaks reveal secrets of the rich who hide cash offshore

    Exclusive: Offshore financial industry leak exposes identities of 1,000s of holders of anonymous wealth from around the world
    The jig is up? and it could/will become a populist theme that Dems can hammer home

    This message is so good:

    multinational corporations are holding somewhere in the range of $2 trillion outside of the country, to avoid paying the taxes they owe when they bring the money back to the U.S.
    ..and the politics of it are secondary to how much good will come of this.

    Think of WPA like programs that could be enacted - the jobs

    Also the rebalancing of the tax code. Starting to erase the humongous wealth disparity.

    Providing that workers get their fair share of the gains from production.

    Making the supply side 1%ers pay their fair share. That is a message that every tax paying person even teabaggers will be drawn to.

    Remember the tax story: how the truck driver or the secretary pays a higher tax rate than a Wall-Streeter caught on? this could cause so many good things to happen if we Dems take this on - imo

    Excellent work on this jamess

    and also too: republicans are against this fairness. They want workers to pay more in taxes than corporations at a lower wage - if they can find a job that is

  •  At some point we need an alliance (4+ / 0-)

    to go after the secret accounts of everybody in whatever countries they live and in whatever countries they stash their loot. We have some of it, and we need a lot more.

    Hence the minions of the 1% rousing up the rabble against World Government with endless conspiracy theories about Shari'a Law and UN Black Helicopters coming to take away their guns and put them into concentration camps, and all of the rest.

    "We don't lie, cheat, and steal," the 1% claims, "We have people to do that for us."

    Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

    by Mokurai on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 05:41:16 PM PST

  •  which is why... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...raising the minimum wage should be THE number one issue emphasized by Democrats during the 2014 election campaign.  

    Because it is widely supported by the general public, including Democrats, Indepdendents AND grassroots Republicans.

    In addition, the minimum wage issue is at the heart of economic fairness and economic populism, which should be the Democratic Party's primary strategic emphasis going forward.

    If the Democrats can make increasing the minimum wage (and Republicans' opposition to both raising it and its basic concept, as well, of course), then we should win the 2014 elections, in my opinion.

  •  Milton Friedman first gave speeches against (2+ / 0-)
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    the minimum wage in 1956, and he published the speeches in his 1962 book Capitalism and Freedom.

    From a summary and review:

    Friedman famously includes a list of areas of government intervention which he believed were not justifiable. These include tariffs and import quotas, subsidies to farmers, rent controls, minimum wages, regulation of industries including banks, transport and radio/TV, social security programs making people put aside a certain amount of money for retirement, public housing, licensing of occupations, and conscription in peacetime.

    While all these policies sound good in theory, in truth they often have the reverse effects that were intended. For instance, the minimum wage was partly aimed at alleviating poverty of African-Americans; what actually happened was that the unemployment rate of teenage blacks shot up. Public housing was designed to alleviate poverty; instead, it concentrated poverty in pockets. ‘Social security’ policies were intended to provide a safety net for those unable to work, but instead created dependents who might otherwise have contributed to the economy. Friedman’s damning conclusion: “Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it.”


    Please note that the quoted source above appears from the libertarian camp, and the author generally agrees with Friedman, I don't.

    This book comprises the genesis of Republican economic thinking in the second half of the 20th century, and likely before, and it is also why I can truly say that the Republicans haven't had a new economic idea since 1956.  This book codifies the entire Republican/Libertarian approach to economics.  Money is Freedom, and if you have enough money, you will also have enough freedom.

    Money is speech, and if you have enough money, you will have enough speech, especially enough speech to influence government to implement policies that line your own pockets, while you use your money to line the pockets of the politicians who will agree with your quest for more money and power.

    And that brings us to Citizens United.

    Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

    by Ohiodem1 on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 11:07:21 PM PST

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