Skip to main content

It was a joyous day today in Colorado, and I was not going to miss out, so I planned to spend my day legally buying cannabis.  Freedom is as freedom does.  

I went to bed early last night, and early this morning I took the bus down to Denver and arrived at the LoDo Wellness Center at 8AM, right as they opened.  In the line outside, everyone was in a great mood, and I received a ticket showing that I was 104th in line.

After 90 minutes, I had gotten inside, but then it was another 90 minutes before getting to actually make a purchase.  They were restricting folks to a quarter ounce maximum in order to make sure they didn't run out of product, but I was able to get an 8th of Hashplant and another 8th of Bruce Banner, and an edible candy and tincture infused with cannabis.

Sure, it took 3 hours, but it was a ton of fun, and even with a grand total of 29% in taxes, still comparable to street prices.

And while I was waiting, a friend of mine drove around and found that Denco was the one place that wasn't super busy, and only waited 10 minutes to purchase some bud for himself.  Later, I went there and also scored in only 10 minutes.  All too easy.

In the afternoon, we drove around to some other places, but they all had long lines out the door.  Apparently legal weed is popular.

I couldn't find any news stories of anything bad happening as a result.  Colorado in 2014 has officially entered the era of Reefer Sanity.

Sure, America has been losing ground in the class war for my entire life, but legal weed and gay marriage show that at least we're progressing in a few ways.

Originally posted to retro postmodernist on Wed Jan 01, 2014 at 10:35 PM PST.

Also republished by DKos Cannabis Law and Drug War Reform and Colorado COmmunity.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  Is evasion of that tax any kind of problem in CO? (0+ / 0-)
  •  Slide show of lineups, purchasers and product (5+ / 0-)

    Hehehehe... reefer-madness

    Up Early and in Line for a Marijuana Milestone in Colorado

    “It makes you giddy to say it: I went into a store and bought pot,” Linda Walmsley said as she walked out of the Denver Kush Club, where a line of shivering customers stretched down the block.

  •  I never imagined I would see it in my lifetime. (9+ / 0-)

    And I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I wish I could be there.

    What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. SAM HARRIS

    by Cpqemp on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 01:06:55 AM PST

  •  If you'd like a reminder about... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Tinfoil Hat, Orj ozeppi

    driving while blazed then check out this 2 minute video clip.

  •  I saw a receipt posted online for $93-103 per (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Cpqemp, xxdr zombiexx, exlrrp, PhilJD, Skaje

    quarter oz!

    It was for four differently priced quarter ounces purchased from the Denver Kush Club, which amounted to $440 after tax. At prices like that, the black market will continue to thrive!

    In the next few years, more states will go green and prices will come down. Until then, it'll be voter sanctioned price gouging for Coloradans who can't get MMJ cards, and black market connections for those who have them. Most of the people in the pot shops will be tourists and people without other options.

    I'm glad I live in California, where you can legally use cannabis for anxiety and insomnia and we have a plethora of choices on the legal, gray and black markets. I think there are lots of Californians who are embarrassed that Colorado and Washington legalized it for recreational use first. In 2014 there are likely to be four separate pot initiatives on the ballot here. At least one of them is likely to pass, as this time lady di-fi won't have so much sway standing there next to lee baca warning the sheeple about how dangerous it'd be for the children -- not since her husband got the contract to legally loot USPS of its beautiful old buildings.

    When it's legalized here, there won't be any of this from-seed-to-plant bullshit to drive up costs! I don't anticipate that lasting too long in Colorado either, as it's a foolish waste of money and bureaucratic resources -- apparently state regulators can look in on every legal grow and dispensary unannounced at any time via CCTV. These days indoor pot growing accounts for 9% of California's electrical carbon footprint. When it is no longer necessary to grow it covertly and people can grow in sunlight without risk of arrest, pot prices will come down significantly, and our electrical grid will effectively be much more robust. When pot is legal in California, we will compete with Colorado and perhaps even the Netherlands for their tourist dollars!

    Now it's time to medicate and go to bed!

    Happy 2014 and many more!!!

    •  People often forget that the mechanism by which (4+ / 0-)

      the weed is made illegal is that it actually is already taxed.

      You cannot 'touch' it without a government tax stamp. Now when you buy even a crumb (what's an eighth other than a small amount of crumbs?) you have that tax stamp on the package.

      Setting the tax too high - which dumbshit politicians constantly want to do - will threaten to continue sending people to the black market is prices are just too high.

      Taxes will have to be VERY SIMILAR to any other tax: too high and you'll kill the entire point of regulation.

      Legal means "good".
      [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

      by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 03:47:50 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  ridiculous prices (0+ / 0-)

      right now in OR around Eugene you can get a good 1/4 lb of bud for around $600-700. If you were walking  down Willamette street, the main street of Eugene and got caught with this bag, you would not go to jail but would be given a ticket. Yes over an ounce is a felony, potentially, but jail would not happen---they don't have the space in the Lane County jail. You could be busted with a pound and wouldn't go to jail. same for a small grow
      Independent growers do it illegally now, when the penalties are lessened they won't stop.

      As for growing outdoors vs indoors, outdoors you only get one crop per year and its risky: bugs, thieves, weather can wipe you out.. Indoors you control the environment and you get fresh weed every month, even through the winter. Its a lot less work and risk and you can set it up in closets in your house or in your garage----Ive seen it done.

      as long as the prices are ridiculously high there will be a black market

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 05:31:09 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Central CA Black Market (0+ / 0-)

        2 Oz of locally grown clone ~ $400

        Geez! Even the Mind blowing Humboldt stuff comes in at $400 Oz.

        30% tax on that is reasonable. California stands to gain half a billion on that.

        $400 a quarter Oz? You are doing it wrong Colorado. I won't be visiting your state for Cannitourism if I have to stand in Denver smog and wheeze in the thin air.

        Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Kurt Vonnegut

        by ToKnowWhy on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 08:40:52 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Actually, that's normal prices (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Denver11, dewley notid

      $100 per quarter is a standard price for good pot on the black market here in Colorado, so no, I don't believe the black market can thrive here any more.

    •  The prices will likely be coming down (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      retro postmodernist

      Only a handful of shops jumped through the million legal hoops in time to open January 1st.  That artificially lessens supply, which is temporarily driving up the price.  It's not just the taxes.  As dozens of other shops open up in the coming weeks, and demand goes back to normal as the novelty wears off, the cost should come back down to medical prices (~$200 an oz.)

  •  Must You Prove CO Citizenship? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Dirtandiron

    What is going to stop folks from neighboring states driving in and buying? Are they trying to prevent that?

    Heck, having grown up in Alabama in the fifties and sixties, I remember how citizens of half the counties had to drive to a county next door to buy liquor, since many counties pretended to be "dry".

    "You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you are going, because you might not get there." “When you come to the fork in the road, take it.” --Yogi Berra

    by HeartlandLiberal on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 04:44:02 AM PST

    •  Its a good thing people from outside CO can buy it (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      reflectionsv37, Dirtandiron, Skaje

      They want the tourism and tax dollars from out-of-state and they are providing a valuable service to people from out-of-state so it's a great deal for everybody.

      You aren't allowed to take it back home with you, though, which is understandable.  I think it will work just fine.

  •  I smoked legal pot in WA a month ago (0+ / 0-)

    It was great.

    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 05:17:38 AM PST

  •  I'm really happy this is happening. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Dirtandiron, Skaje

    Though I hate using MJ, personally.

    It burns my lungs, and makes me act silly and I cough for days afterward.

    I prefer my booze.

    But I fight for legal weed because it's hypocritical for me to say "I like my alcohol recreationally, but nobody else can have their drugs of choice."

    I also fall in the "Don't like it? Don't use it," camp of thought, but we have all these busy bodies who think that people can't be trusted.

    And Republicans keep talking about how they're the party of "liberty."

    What utter pish.

    An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

    by OllieGarkey on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 06:21:20 AM PST

    •  I recommend vaporizing (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      OllieGarkey

      I hate smoking as well.

      •  It's not as much the smoke as the (0+ / 0-)

        effect it has on me. It's SUPER effective.

        I end up feeling lazy for days afterward. But that's me, it's just not my thing. Also, I vaporize nicotine, and am trying to scale back on stuff I inhale. I like my lungs : )

        But that's just me.

        Anyone who feels like they get something from this, that's their business. It's pretty clear that MJ causes fewer societal problems than Alcohol.

        Which to me has a sacred cultural significance being that it's Uisge Beatha, the water of life.  

        An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

        by OllieGarkey on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 09:33:20 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Equal Protection (0+ / 0-)

      At some point, after enough states legalize pot for recreational use (maybe even just California and Oregon, making the entire west coast a legal cannabis zone, and also taking in a significant number of US citizens living in states where it's legal due to the size of California's population), and after the Fed statutes are amended to remove marijuana from the "Schedule I" designation, a successful legal argument will be made that marijuana users are owed the same 'rights' to buy and use the substance as those who use alcohol.

      That means no more work prohibition if it happens to be in your system residually. Still can't be or get high at work, of course.

      No prohibition on the amount you can possess, except in public (maybe). I mean, there are no regulations concerning how much alcohol you can possess at home, and unopened containers are not illegal if in a vehicle.

      This also means that states (and the Feds) will have to come up with accurate and verifiable criteria for how to measure impaired driving. After all, most experienced marijuana users can drive quite well after getting fairly high. Back in the day, we used to all agree that you come down really quickly if you are pulled over by the cops.

      Feel free to list any regs, or societal norms that affect cannabis, but not alcohol, that I've missed...

      It will be interesting going forward>>>

      You meet them halfway with love, peace, and persuasion ~ And expect them to rise for the occasion...

      by paz3 on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 12:28:33 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Was it mostly seeds? (...and a serious question.) (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Dirtandiron

    What is the legal position on home-grown.  Does the new CO law expressly forbid it, or is there any type of 'personal consumption' exemption?

  •  Truth -- (0+ / 0-)

    Were you and your buddy driving high while surveying the shop scene? It would have taken some discipline to keep all that fresh bud in your lap all afternoon -- after waiting three hours, no less -- just to survey the new retail environment.

    "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

    by Mogolori on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 08:32:10 AM PST

  •  Yawn. (4+ / 0-)

    Just another day in beautiful Colorado.  While the news coverage leading up to the day was widespread both locally and nationally, the event itself was a yawn.  Nothing to see here.  Colorado is not burning.  Children still aren't addicted to pot, the state is thriving and the skiing is wonderful.  Nothing to see here, so just move along.

  •  The dope economy (0+ / 0-)

    Is finally here! All the SF scenarios from 60s-70s novels like Bug Jack Barron, Illuminati, etc. are going to be tested and played out. How much booze gets sold on the black market to individuals? If it's readily available, why would anyone mess with it? I personally have always preferred decriminalization to legalization, but when neighboring states see the money flowing into Colorado's coffers, and know that some of it is coming from their citizens, it will be very difficult for them to resist joining in. Look at the proliferation of gambling casinos on the East Coast, first it was New Jersey, then it was West Virginia, now it's Pennsylvania, Delaware and Maryland. Virginia doesn't want to join in, but how long are they going to let their citizens go spend their gaming dollars elsewhere?

  •  Classic Tweet! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    retro postmodernist

    From @pourmecoffee:

    Pot is legal in Colorado and at least one, maybe two of these people are presidents. Hippies won. Deal with it http://pic.twitter.com/...
    https://twitter.com/...
  •  The gov'mint 'tax stamps' will be RFID tags (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    chmood

    Marijuana will be the first product to be monitored from conception to final use with RFID tags. The new generation ultra high frequency chips slated for use can be read from 50 feet away - just like the new passports and the proposed smart driver's license.

    I suppose they could put monitors on highways to check movements out of state. This remote monitoring will mean police could tell if you have marijuana on your person, car or home without having to stop and frisk you. If you remove the tag before transport or consumption you would be liable to a fine.

    Heh. America - soon to become a nation of pot heads all closely monitored by the state.

    [Neil Postman] In 1984 people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.
    Colorado Readies System for Monitoring Marijuana

    Dec 16, 2013—

    Hundreds of recreational marijuana shops are slated to open in Colorado on Jan. 1. Once that happens, every package of buds or processed products, such as marijuana-laced brownies, will have an RFID tag attached to it, intended to help the state regulate product and ensure that it comes from authorized sources.
    ...
    Marijuana plants are typically grown from stems rather than from seeds; each stem is taken from one plant and propagated to create another one. Once that process begins, the new cloned plant is issued a serial number married to a unique 24-digit ID number on an RFID tag, with the RFID number also printed on that tag. The grower reads the ID number printed on the tag and enters that information into the MITS system via the Internet. When harvesting a plant, the grower discards the plant tag and dries the plant's flower buds, as well as its leaves. It then typically packages the buds and ships them directly to a retailer with a new RFID tag, along with a printed label to be read by state officers as they inspect stores. The printed label will include text related to the plant's origins and multiple other details, while the new tag ID is entered into the MITS system and is linked to the product's history, including the tag ID number of the plant from which the buds were harvested.

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site