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I have had enough.

I think Jack Kingston is a nice enough guy, but he has the odious task of coming up with themes and talking points for the house.

His latest nonsense is requiring children to sweep floors to qualify for free school lunches. Not only is this degrading, but it is morally wrong. All these kids did was to commit the sin of being born poor.

Ideally I want a Progressive Democrat with high name recognition and good credentials from the district.

Failing that I will take a local Progressive Democrat from within the state with good credentials from the district.

Failing that I will take a Progressive Democrat with good credentials from elsewhere in the state.

Failing that I will take a Progressive Democrat with high name recognition and good credentials from a neighboring state.

Back against the wall I am willing to relocate to the 1st District and take a run at Jack myself if the support is there. *I was born in S.C. and have kin throughout the south.

I want to hear from those knowledgeable about the district. The best I can tell there is not a Democratic contender for this seat. let's find one and build the support base that makes this seat winnable.

My checkbook is open.

Come on people, I'm not angry I am determined.

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  •  Tip Jar (4+ / 0-)
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    rbird, bkamr, Odysseus, LakeSuperior

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

    by leftover on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 05:34:08 PM PST

  •  A progressive (0+ / 0-)

    is not going to win in an R+9 district. Spend it on someone useful. Maybe a demosaur can ride Nunn's and Carter's coattails to eke out a victory, but you're not going to get a progressive to win. Don't even bother.

    TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (TBD - Likely Celia Israel-D)

    by Le Champignon on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 05:43:38 PM PST

    •  That's the spirit, we don't stand a chance (3+ / 0-)
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      leftover, Odysseus, rbird

      give up and go hide.  Duck and cover.

      Don't forget to complain about those spineless Democrats while you are at it.

      The sun's not yellow, it's chicken. B. Dylan

      by bgblcklab1 on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 06:23:18 PM PST

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      •  I don't (0+ / 0-)

        Because I recognize political reality.

        TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (TBD - Likely Celia Israel-D)

        by Le Champignon on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 10:02:11 PM PST

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        •  There is a strong possibility the GOP (0+ / 0-)

          won't have a nominee until the late July runoff, and that his coffers will be low after fighting a crazy primary.  We may get really lucky and get somebody crazy for the GOP nominee.  Plus coattails from Nunn and Carter that could be competitive.

          Admittedly, if we do have a candidate in place to compete in coastal Georgia with well filled coffers and a good ground game, it probably won't be somebody particularly progressive by national standards.

          Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

          by benamery21 on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 10:58:43 PM PST

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          •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

            I'd love a John Barrow type who could make this district competitive in a good year, and then lock it down with incumbency. Winning an R+9 seat with a Demosaur means we can lose one of the "swingy" seats like NH-01 or NH-02 (whichever one Shea-Porter represents) without it being quite so fatal to our chances at taking the house.

            But we can't run a progressive, or we get creamed. It's either we lose with 200 progressives, or we win with 200 progressives and twenty or so moderates/conservatives. I choose the latter.

            TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (TBD - Likely Celia Israel-D)

            by Le Champignon on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 11:09:01 PM PST

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    •  Even if what you say is true, (6+ / 0-)

      and it is a fact that the last time a Democrat held this seat was 1993.

      If we don't fight we can't win and win lose or draw, I want the GOP to know that they are in a fight.

      The false narrative that we should only put our money in the winnable seats has gotten us to where we are today.

      I don't want just the winnable seats. I want to take the fight to the heart of the cancer and burn it out.

      Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

      by leftover on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 06:43:24 PM PST

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      •  By all means (0+ / 0-)

        run a Democrat. I'm in favor of the Fifty State strategy, with some exceptions like Idaho, Wyoming, or Utah which are so far gone as to be pointless.

        Just don't run a progressive, because you'll lose, and you'll lose badly.

        TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (TBD - Likely Celia Israel-D)

        by Le Champignon on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 10:03:13 PM PST

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    •  We should be running progressives... (5+ / 0-)

      ...for every seat in the country. If there are unprogressive Democrats in the running in these supposedly unwinnable red districts that you say we shouldn't bother with, then what's the harm of a progressive running? If there are no Democrats running, as in Texas, where, IRCC, seven districts had no Democrats in the running in 2012, then what's the harm?

      Parties are built (or rebuilt, as the Democratic Party desperately needs) one piece at a time. Every precinct in the country with five or more Democrats ought to be organized so that those five can recruit five more, and so on. Writing off districts is a mistake.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 08:16:48 PM PST

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      •  The harm.. (0+ / 0-)

        is money wasted. Most states have filing fees, for one. Imagine if the candidate had given that money to someone who could actually use it. Now imagine if the national party spends money on this progressive. Again, money wasted that could be used in PA-06 or FL-13 or NY-04 or NM-02.

        I don't care if the seven Democrats who live in TX-36, for example, have someone to vote for. It's a lost cause, and the person we nominate is invariably going to lose by around forty to fifty points.

        In a realm of infinite resources, I'd absolutely agree with you. But money is tight. Our opponents spend hundreds of millions more than us every cycle because they are in cahoots with corporate America. Our opponents are better at organizing their voter base because their voter base is convinced that the world will end if they don't vote Republican. In order to even compete with that, we need massive, targeted GOTV operations. That means trucking in volunteers from precincts with few Democrats into precincts with many Democrats. It's maximizing bang-for-the-buck - nothing more.

        And not every district is winnable. Even as loose as I am with the so-called "rules of elections", and even as optimistic as I am ... we're not going to win districts like TX-36 in the next several decades unless the entire population is resettled elsewhere.

        That's not to say we shouldn't fight. I'm a huge supporter of dumping massive resources into Texas. But do you want to know why I'm all for that, but not for running progressives in red districts? Because Texas IS winnable. Texas' problem is voter turnout. This can be ameliorated with funding and effort. But TX-36's problem is its ideology.

        Wanna get a progressive in GA-01? Either wait for a lot of old, white MFers to die off, or wait for a lot of black people to turn 18. When the demographics say it's ripe, then we can target it with a progressive. In the meantime, we run Demosaurs like our party NEEDS to do to survive and win. Those Demosaurs will win sooner than your progressives will. And once the seat is ripe, we can have a nice primary battle with the Demosaur, and voila - a progressive in GA-01 appears in due time.

        And for the record, I live in one of those districts whose Republican representative went unchallenged in 2012. In 2014, he's getting a challenger. He's a progressive Some Dude. No one has heard of him. No one will hear of him until they're casting their ballots. When they hear of him, they'll think, "Huh, who's that guy?" Then they will cast their ballots, on average, for Bill Flores, and anyone who even bothered to make a sign for the Some Dude will have wasted their time. Now tell me, sir or ma'am, precisely what is the point of him running?

        TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (TBD - Likely Celia Israel-D)

        by Le Champignon on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 10:24:34 PM PST

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        •  Speaking of turnout: (0+ / 0-)

          Votes cast in 2010 in GA-01 were just 163,719.  In 2006 Kingston won 68.5% of the vote with just 94,961.

          Georgia picked up a seat in redistricting, so the population's probably actually lower in the district now.

          Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

          by benamery21 on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 12:57:00 AM PST

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        •  Some Dudes become household names... (2+ / 0-)
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          benamery21, leftover

          ...if they are serious, not in one election cycle. What we don't need are assistant professors at the community college that nobody has heard of running a symbolic campaign as Some Dude. Those, I agree, are useless or worse than.  

          But city councilmembers running for state legislature and state legislators running for congressional seats can make a difference. Also, one thing that is often forgotten is that even when we lose the district, by having an active, serious campaign we boost the turnout for statewide offices. Do that in every precinct and you give Democrats who may not have a chance to candidates who might not make it otherwise.

          Yes, Texas District 36 is a tough one. But the Democrat got 62,000 votes in 2012 (27%). If that were boosted by 10,000 votes, he would still have lost, but the spillover (combined with spillover from other higher Democratic turnouts in other districts) could have made a difference for governor and other statewide offices.

          Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

          by Meteor Blades on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 08:12:45 AM PST

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  •  I hate to break this to you, but .. (1+ / 0-)
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    leftover

    what you think is a small race costs more that the average person willing to run can afford.  Starting from zero requires personal money.  It's gotta have $5K just to start. And, if you can't program HTML you might as well make it $20K to get an interactive site created.

    •  That is not a problem. (3+ / 0-)

      As I said my checkbook is open.

      Bring on the Progressive Democrat and let's get to it.

      Yes I can write HTML, XML, XSLT, Java, python, PHP, C++
      And CGI connectors to SQL for that matter.

      I am willing to commit time, talent and treasure.

      I will not allow the GOP to frame poor children as undeserving slackers ever again.

      Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

      by leftover on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 06:34:24 PM PST

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  •  Sorry, don't have a clue... (7+ / 0-)

    ...I'm in New Mexico.  I admire your enthusiasm.  I was a big supporter of the old fifty-state strategy.  We really do need people in as many races as we can.  You can't win if you don't put a team on the field.

    Join Essa in a revolt against the gods. Continue the fight, Causality.

    by rbird on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 05:55:08 PM PST

  •  Thank you, that is exactly my thought. NT (0+ / 0-)

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

    by leftover on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 06:35:52 PM PST

  •  Uh, Kingston isn't running for reelection (3+ / 0-)
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    LakeSuperior, benamery21, leftover

    He is running for Senate.

  •  GA-01 is an Open seat (2+ / 0-)
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    leftover, rbird

    Kingston is vacating the seat to run for Senate.  There is a spirited GOP primary ongoing, and it is possible that a less competitive candidate (for the general) might win the GOP primary.  It's a crazy broad field primary race.

    Lesli Messinger (our 2012 nominee) may be running for the 2014 Dem nomination.

    2014 exploratory committee

    http://www.leslimessinger.com/

    2012 campaign site
    http://www.messinger4congress.com/

    Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

    by benamery21 on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 09:43:42 PM PST

  •  There's already a Democratic candidate in GA-01 (1+ / 0-)
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    leftover

    Her name is Lesli Messinger and she was the 2012 Democratic Challenger to Rep. Jack Kingston.  Now that GA-01 is an open race, Messinger is effectively not running against Kingston so that frees up a bit of burden on her end.

    Here's the information for Lesli Messinger for Congress:

    Lesli Messinger for Congress:  http://www.messinger4congress.com/

    Donate:  http://www.messinger4congress.com/...

    Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/...

    Twitter:  https://twitter.com/...

  •  Amy Tavio (3+ / 0-)

    Yes, Leslie is running again this year. However, she had to be taken to court by at least two people, including at least one high level person in the campaign to get paid (even though the campaign had the money to pay them). I would not support her if you had a choice.

    Amy Tavio has also declared that she is running. She helped set up the Bryan County Democratic Party and is a member of the DPG. She appears to A) be a lot more honest and B) better organized than Leslie.

    Here is her FB page:
    https://www.facebook.com/...

  •  We got ourselves a dog that can bite in this fight (4+ / 0-)

    Look up Amy Tavio met her yesterday at MLK parade. Real smart, middle of the road anti-politician. I think we got ourselves someone that can win. Look her up amy4congress.com

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