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There's a shock, eh? But really, are you as surprised as I am?

Well. Hmmm. So...

Anyone got a list of where Dems aren't running for Congress, Governorships, and Judge against Repubs or Dem conserative types by any wild chance? Maybe one of where they are, and who they might be.

h/t Cassiodorus (who has not endorsed this diary in any way, but I'm riffing off what I took from that diary.)

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The Winning Democratic slogan will be

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  •  Tip Jar (12+ / 0-)


    Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

    by Jim P on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 12:15:35 AM PST

  •  Then why support the electoral system? (1+ / 0-)
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    NancyWH

    But that's fine.. you just keep on voting like a well behaved democrat.

    "The moment some people participating in an action feel they have more of a moral commitment to those who are threatening to attack them than they do to another activist, the game is over." -David Graeber

    by ZhenRen on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 01:19:19 AM PST

    •  Ever hear 'better Democrats' (0+ / 0-)

      What option is there practically? Smashing Starbucks windows? Wear masks?

      The apparatus exists and still has power. Fill the apparatus to our advantage.


      Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

      by Jim P on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 09:55:04 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Never have done that (0+ / 0-)
        What option is there practically? Smashing Starbucks windows? Wear masks?
        Glad you don't attend a lot of direct actions or protests, though, with that attitude about masks. I don't think you would fit in well, due to the current milieu at these events. A lot of the younger protesters these days like those Guy Fawkes masks, and they strongly identify with that V for Vendetta film.

        It does help to keep up with the younger crowd. Makes one more understanding, and tolerant.

        "The moment some people participating in an action feel they have more of a moral commitment to those who are threatening to attack them than they do to another activist, the game is over." -David Graeber

        by ZhenRen on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 01:45:05 PM PST

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  •  I wish I could help you out, but... (11+ / 0-)

    I'm busy at the moment.

    We need to make sure a certain Republican doesn't stand a chance of beating our Pre-Ordained Presidential Candidate.

    Apparently this potential challenger to our Pre-Ordained Presidential Candidate may still be planning a run, even in light of all that's happened over the last few days.

    You never know with those Republicans.

    Besides, everyone knows we're better than them on all the things that count, like making sure Social Security is "reformed," eliminating all our "enemies" with nice, safe drone strikes that don't put our troops in harms way, making sure we keep a watchful eye on our potentially terrorist-infested citizenry, and letting Banksters continue to strengthen our economy without the burden of having some meddling prosecuter nagging them about trivial things that happened in the not-so-distant past.

    We've got this.




    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

    by DeadHead on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 01:44:16 AM PST

    •  Here we go again... (1+ / 0-)
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      Johnny Q

      Just because oafish bully Christie makes big claims and gets coverage from reich wing media... that automatically means he EVER had a shot?

      gimme a break, please

      Hah hah hah hahhhh!! that's a good one!

      got any other funny stuff like that?

      "It is essential that there should be organization of Labor. Capital organizes & therefore Labor must organize" Theodore Roosevelt

      by Superpole on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 06:21:49 AM PST

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      •  It was sarcasm. Why are Republicans (2+ / 0-)
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        DeadHead, Johnny Q

        the main story at DKos? Not positive alternatives.


        Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

        by Jim P on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 09:56:14 AM PST

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        •  "Sorry" I missed the (maybe) Sarcasm (0+ / 0-)
          We need to make sure a certain Republican doesn't stand a chance of beating our Pre-Ordained Presidential Candidate.
          many here actually believe this-- that's why I don't get the sarcasm.
          Not positive alternatives
          .

          problem is the "democrats" in congress aren't doing much of anything important-- and now they have an apparently permanent excuse: a handful of the teabagger mob got elected to congress in 2010.

          weak.

          "It is essential that there should be organization of Labor. Capital organizes & therefore Labor must organize" Theodore Roosevelt

          by Superpole on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 12:45:36 PM PST

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      •  Apparently (0+ / 0-)

        You're under the impression that I pulled the basis for my sarcasm, which you apparently missed, out of thin air.




        Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

        by DeadHead on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 12:33:40 PM PST

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  •  There is no doubt that the slogan will be: (8+ / 0-)

    "We are not them." And it may even be a "winning" slogan, except that it will not be the people who will win.

    •  No, the slogan will be (2+ / 0-)
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      NancyWH, Ray Pensador

      Si se puede. Yes we can. We're the 99%. Stealing slogans from real people, with real things to say. Sheez, practically no one here picked grapes with Chavez, or spent more than a few days at Occupy, if at all, and yet they are all experts.

      Canning these words in mass produced packages, selling them as a commodity, and people all across the land will buy the products again, and again, and again.

      Even most of the people complaining here will buy it all over again, when Nov 4th comes.

      Blablablabla...

      But in the end, for most people, it all comes down to pulling the lever in the voting booth, and then they go home. And nothing changes.

      "The moment some people participating in an action feel they have more of a moral commitment to those who are threatening to attack them than they do to another activist, the game is over." -David Graeber

      by ZhenRen on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 02:13:47 AM PST

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      •  Always has been the case. About 1 in (1+ / 0-)
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        Hey338Too

        12 to 16 people are psychologically active, and a large percentage of them become artists, some political. Always and everywhere. In Russian there's the word 'byt' which refers to the baker, shop owner, smithy, the people who make up the daily round of village life. They just want to live okay and take care of their own. It's where the American Theater, borrowing from Yiddish Theater, got the phrase 'bit player'.

        But, what the fuck did you expect to see at a site that bills itself as devoted to getting Democrats elected? Kropotkin? Herds of wildebeests galloping majestically across the plains?

        fyi, my first political action was going door to door in the Bronx raising money to send for the election of JFK. Years later friends, whose folks were ambassadors to the UN and such, were told by their parents to stay away from me. That was the advice of US authorities to them. Whether it was my connections to 'anarchists,' or people going to Cuba, or my own propaganda efforts, I don't know.

        What's funny in retrospect is that we all imagined we were part of a vanguard, or an elite of sorts. We'd talk all democracy and equality and shit, but we had a lot of romance about our imagined far-seeingness.

        fwiw, politics wasn't invented when you first came to notice it. And psychology really really -- no, really -- does precede, indeed shapes, ideation, theory, and dogma. One has to have spent enough time with people from whom there's no possible advantage to you, even feeling good about yourself, to start to appreciate properly one's own motivations in life.


        Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

        by Jim P on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 12:21:57 PM PST

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        •  Wherein you presume to educate me (0+ / 0-)

          using your presumptions about my experience, based on your own personal direction you took in life.

          You speak of what "we all" imagined, as if I am part of your "all". I wasn't.

          I'm not very easily impressed by this kind of personal matrix or paradigm. We each have different experiences to bring to the discussion.

          None of your notions about my reasons for being here, or of what my personal assumptions might be, hit the mark. What arrogant condescension.

          My point above stands.

          "The moment some people participating in an action feel they have more of a moral commitment to those who are threatening to attack them than they do to another activist, the game is over." -David Graeber

          by ZhenRen on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 01:29:38 PM PST

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    •  Well, that and ACA.. (2+ / 0-)
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      aliasalias, Johnny Q

      What else exactly do the democrats have to run on, I wonder?

      the ECONOMY??? soaring child poverty rate?

      based on what I'm reading here of late, I'm encouraged as it appears many of you finally realize we are being played for chumps by the dems and the entire pathetic system.

      "It is essential that there should be organization of Labor. Capital organizes & therefore Labor must organize" Theodore Roosevelt

      by Superpole on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 06:24:43 AM PST

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  •  Write it. (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson

    I agree with Cass myself, but the proper response to 'Hey, the site is overrun by things I don't feel advance the purpose of the site enough' is not to then 'write Why doesn't somebody else write the things I feel are much more important', it's 'I don't think those other things are important enough, and here's what I've written that is what I feel is more important'.

    A list of races in which Repubs are unopposed is a good idea.  An ongoing weekly series of same with updates is a good idea.  A good start would be to put together a group to do such diaries, to recruit writers who share your fervour for the idea, and to put together an initial diary in which you explain where to get such data most easily, and how to condense and present it, so that your group members spend as little time as possible gathering and collating the data.

    I've seen pdf files, I think, with lists of candidates for office at my state secretary of state website.  Your weekly diary round-up could start with just a collection of those files each week, and as you add editors from each state, they could winnow out the races in which candidates are in place, to get just the races that need a body.  Once you get things even more fine tuned, you could maybe add filing dates to the mix, so that you could move races off into a category of 'too late to file, and no Democrat ran'.

  •  I'm w/ the Three Others Voting (1+ / 0-)
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    PhilK

    "We're not them" in the nicely done, hilarious poll.

    because that's mostly how the dems won the last election... We're Not Them!!

    problem is; when it comes to several major policy issues, particularly those involving MONEY, corporate profits, (not) raising the min wage, the PIC, the MIC, pot legalization, etc. etc. the democrats are exactly like the repugs.

    "It is essential that there should be organization of Labor. Capital organizes & therefore Labor must organize" Theodore Roosevelt

    by Superpole on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 06:11:16 AM PST

  •  Where's my 24/7 Christie news, damnit? (0+ / 0-)

    Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall this day light such a candle by God's grace in England as shall never be put out.

    by Bollox Ref on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 07:06:29 AM PST

  •  "Be grateful you have us on your side" n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  . (1+ / 0-)
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    Wordsinthewind


    “Healthy citizens are the greatest asset any country can have.” ― Winston Churchill

    by paulitics on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 08:13:54 AM PST

    •  At this moment 7 of 10 front page (4+ / 0-)

      diaries visible on my browser are about 'republicans bad.' 2 are about climate.

      None are about electable or even challenging Democrats. The rec list is mostly 'bad republicans.' For the last few days it's been about 80% Christie.

      Nice screen shot. Reminds me of that old Dylan album liner-note 'Don't want to go in too far. Just want to go in far enough so's I can say I've been there.'


      Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

      by Jim P on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 10:03:26 AM PST

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      •  It's Called DISTRACTION From: (0+ / 0-)

        take your pick; still sucky economy, soaring child poverty rate, no real, fully funded infrastructure program, troops still in afcrapistan, etc.

        EIGHT years of Obama and the democrats in control of the senate.... Mehhh

        "It is essential that there should be organization of Labor. Capital organizes & therefore Labor must organize" Theodore Roosevelt

        by Superpole on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 12:50:45 PM PST

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  •  It's true that stories of republican corruption.. (1+ / 0-)
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    Jim P

    ..failure and general all around malfeasance as their platform, (a necessary guiding principle when what is being sold to the American  people by the RWNJ is the complete opposite of the truth on every issue and in every move they make) gets a lot of front page coverage here @ Daily Kos, but I think that it is really very important to expose the GOP and the dangerous agenda they are paid to enact.

    For way too long Dems have not called out just how corrupt the GOP really is. They are not our "friends on the other side of the aisle"

    - ending all social programs; when "saving it" is lie the republicans are training people to believe, with some success - 2010/PPACA

    - Or that pollution/Global warming is real - Inhofe

    - Or that Voting is still a constitutionally guaranteed right

    just to name a few in a very long list of continuing damage/destruction of society for people

     I have written on the amny things we should be doing while I also targeted the GOP's efforts to stop all progress

    Both important to do as well as trying to expose the glossy corruption that has many on the right fooled.

    And also trying my best to point out that Dems should not fall for the threats that don't exist unless Dems allow them or even aid the RWNJ party and then tried to get Dems to stand up and end the filibuster

    So maybe the Front Page sometimes spends too much time on bashing republicans but there are other Kossacks that regularly report on Dems and what is going on to get them elected; like poopdogcomedy who doesn't get enough notice imo.

    So I 1/2 agree and 1/2 disagree

    As many here have pointed out; the MSM is not the "liberal media" - even that is a lie promulgated by corporate "interests". It is corporate controlled and the main reason that the republican party has survived and exists as a party against all democratic odds: that 1% of the population can control over half the wealth of a nation; that is an absolute lie in every thing they actually stand for - it is NOT working people.

    The republicans party (and the 1% iow's a minority of people that are represented by it) wouldn't exist  without a system of misinformation that give it equal standing and voice; without an MSM beltway to the local outfits that actually helps to fabricate the façade that the GOP is concerned about anything beyond the narrow interests of corporations  

    Until that huge advantage "conservatives" have; $$$ and a bought propaganda campaign/marketing branch they largely control and that definitely includes the beltway press corps, we Dems must make sure to call out what the GOP is:

    A group of mortal individuals tricked. lured. or whatever, by greed themselves to shill for a non-person, non-mortal entitiy(ies).
     Entities built to extract resources, wealth, and anything of value including the power of people to govern themselves.

    We Dems must continue to fight off corporations to hold on to what we have; and that means slamming down and exposing the voice of the corporations - the republican party - a party which exists based on a fundamental untruth - that the controlling forces that support the GOP have even the slightest interest in workers wages; voting rights; women's reproductive freedom; tax laws that would protect labor at least equally to capital.

    None of these things are the concern of the GOP. Not a single one. The republicans party is a corporate fabrication.
    A façade covering a diseased agenda based on greed - a human failing - but one that is considered the imperative of the corpo GOP/Wall Street gamblers of other peoples money and labor

     - imo

    Thx Jim P
    for supporting the need to focus on what Dems should be doing.

    I believe we need to do both though

    P.S. sorry about the long-winded pimping my own self rant, but it's been on my mind lately

    •  Thanks Eric. I hope this is just one of (1+ / 0-)
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      Eric Nelson

      many many follow-up diaries until the focus around here changes to something actually productive. I've been counting the front-page stories once a day for most days for a while, at least what fills the browser window before you have to click 'recent' or 'previous' or whatever it is.

      It's 70% Repubs = Bad. Well, we've known what the Repubs are up to since Newt Gingrich. That's 20 years now. The 'Republicans Bad' thing could be covered with one post. In the format of the Roosevelt Institute when they treat of economy/politics news here.

      It really should be 70% 'we can win this race in Illinois, we can run a probably-losing gem in Molly So-and-so in Kentucky, but get our foot in the door' etc.

      But it ain't. The small percentage of people from the Right who might come to DailyKos aren't going to have their eyes opened and convert their friends from all the trash-talking against Republicans. We've got preaching to the choir. Not elected Better Dems. (And Better Dems is what gets us more Dems, if the polls show anything at all.)

      I've harped a bit recently on the Supply-Side religion of the Republicans. It's been swallowed whole and complete and regurgitated by the Dem Establishment, and is to this moment. Trickle-Down, Privatization, Deregulation, Free Trade. Every now and then there's some lip-service, but there's never been a whole-hearted rejection -- with evidence -- of Supply Side by the Dem Party.

      Thanks again for your thoughtful, as always, and serious comment.


      Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

      by Jim P on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 12:35:39 PM PST

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  •  add to the Poll Pelosi's "embrace the suck" (2+ / 0-)
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    Johnny Q, enhydra lutris

    suck

    without the ants the rainforest dies

    by aliasalias on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 01:37:28 PM PST

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