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A poll worker hands a sticker to a voter at a polling place in Charlotte, North Carolina October 27, 2012. REUTERS/Chris Keane
I sound like a broken record, and I'll continue to do so until November: If Democratic base voters turn out, we win.

In the past, we've watched from the sidelines as Democratic campaigns chase after "independent" voters to try and win elections. We've long had a base advantage over the GOP, but the likes of the DLC and Third Way were obsessed with those independents (which were actually either apathetic or tea party voters). So, campaigns were geared less toward base mobilization, and more towards being Republican-lite.

And we lost a lot.

Recently, we've seen a party moving away from that approach. President Barack Obama won with a pure base mobilization strategy. Even more dramatically, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe did so as well in Virginia—a southern border state. There are simply more of us than there are conservatives, and as long as we turn out, happy things will happen. But, of course, our voters are the least likely to turn out, and that disadvantage is amplified in off-year non-presidential elections.

But again, Democrats are definitely learning:

The [Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee] is taking lessons from 2010 — when, in the wake of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision that prohibited government restrictions on political spending by corporations, individuals and labor unions, it poured the majority of its financial resources into trying to match Republicans in television ads. And it is using as models successful 2012 efforts in Montana and North Dakota, two states that were not presidential battlegrounds but which elected Democratic senators (Senators Jon Tester and Heidi Heitkamp) through the committee’s robust field effort that helped increase the turnout.

“Television is a fundamentally persuasive medium, and by transferring those resources to targeted mobilization, you see a party whose path to victory goes through changing the electorate, not through winning over the opinion of typical off-year voters,” Mr. Issenberg said. “Campaigns are realizing that the smartest way to win the next vote is by mobilizing a nonvoter than by trying to win over a voter.”

To summarize, putting all their money into ads to try and keep up with the Kochs and friends was a loser. Putting that money into a robust field operation that identified core Democratic supporters and made sure they turned out, was successful.

And this matters. In Georgia, Democrats estimate that there are nearly 600,000 unregistered African Americans. Romney won the state by 300,000 in 2012. Compounding the problem, Democrats also estimate that about 600,000 Georgians who voted for Obama won't turn out in 2014 on their own initiative to vote for Democratic Senate candidate Michelle Nunn.

But you don't hear Democrats talking about appealing to southern rednecks with Confederate flags anymore. There are more base Democrats in Georgia than conservatives. If we get them to vote, we win.  It won't be easy, but sure beats trying to win over mythical independents and Republicans.

Originally posted to kos on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 09:50 AM PST.

Also republished by Kos Georgia and Daily Kos.

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  •  The fact is (27+ / 0-)

    that if everyone who was eligible to vote but doesn't, did, the candidate those voters selected would be the winner.

    Because the majority of eligible voters don't vote.

    The focus should be not only on getting out the "base" but also on registering and getting out people who have never voted, who don't choose to participate in the system. The majority of them, I believe, lean well to the Left.

    •  Agreed. Long-term, Dems need to register voters, (17+ / 0-)

      including those who are 'turned off' by the current dismal state of affairs. The challenge is that the people who are most in touch with local precincts and LDs tend not to have either the resources or the personal motivation to look decades ahead.

      GOTV is still critical, in any given election, and kos amply makes the case that when Dem voters turn out we win.

      •  The deciding factor in the old days (6+ / 0-)

        was for the candidate to do his/her job by representing the people of his her state, with an eye on the country just because we live in the USA.

        None of that is true today.  I can name 2 people in the US Senate I would vote for.  One is not a Dem, and the other one is the woman I hope will be POTUS or VP after the 2016 election.

        Why should we donate money and time to elect people who are owned and manipulated by the corporations that own the world?

        I guess you say that while believing that electing any Dem is better than allowing a Republican to be elected with a no-show vote.  Is that right?

        That's what so many of us did every election for the past 15-20 years.  How do you like what they did?  I don't, and I am sorry I didn't do something to help Hillary beat Obama.  But I won't vote for her as a stand alone candidate.  I think there are many people like me who don't care anymore.  Give us a candidate like Elizabeth Warren and I bet we'd come out in droves, but we have to wait for 2016.

        I'll show up to vote for Diana DeGette with enthusiasm.  Michael Bennett and Udall...not.  I will mail in my ballot.  That's all I can commit to.  

        •  ooo now you have to tell us (3+ / 0-)

          who the not a Dem is!

          you can;t drop a bomb like that and then go hide :-D

          oh wait, I just figured out you must be talking about Bernie.  Never mind.

          Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
          DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
          Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

          by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:19:29 AM PST

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        •  Run for office, yourself! :-) Give it a try! (0+ / 0-)

          Even at a local level (city council, park board, whatever). One learns a lot about the electoral process. And it's not so money-driven at the most local levels -- no TV ad buys, etc. You might win! :-) In most competitive races, you'll see that it's hard as heck to win an election, requiring a lot of hard work. Even if you don't win, it's the best education about American democracy. It's not all pretty, in fact it's a messy sausage-factory, not for the squeamish nor ideological puritans. I think you'll have more empathy for politicians, once you try it yourself -- that doesn't mean you'll like the current crop of Senators any better, nor the system, but you'll have a deeper understanding (useful for when you campaign for President Warren, or Senator  DeGette).

          electing [almost] any Dem is better than allowing a Republican to be elected with a no-show vote.
          Yes. While also working to cultivate better Democratic candidates. Starting with the 'farm leagues' at the lowest levels -- like you! :-)
          I am sorry I didn't do something to help Hillary beat Obama. But I won't vote for her as a stand alone candidate.
          I'm not sure of your point, here. I don't think Hillary would have been any more progressive than Obama in 2008-2012, in fact I think she would have given even more support to Wall St banksters and the Fortune 500. (Reminder: she was on the board of f'ing WalMart.) I think she'll be a better President in 2016 than she would have been in 2008. I'm still worried about her DLC/3rdWay leanings, and the corporate elite looking for payback from the Clinton machine. I'll vote for her if she's the Dem nominee, but I'm open to other choices in the primary, including Warren.

          I'm still very glad we did not end up with President McCain (and Vice President Palin), or President Romney.

          I'm glad you'll vote, at least, even if you're cynical about much of the system.

    •  reality check (9+ / 0-)

      A nation deserves its gov.

      Spend five minutes talking to an American citizen outside a wal mart or target and find out how much they understand their gov policies then you will understand America's future as a third world nation.

      Americans actually think capitalism has something to do with personal freedoms and the larger their military the safer their nation is and the more guns they have the  safer they are in their homes.

      •  capitalism does have something to do w/freedom (1+ / 0-)
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        but it's the opposite of the way they think it does!

        Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
        DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
        Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

        by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:20:08 AM PST

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      •  Walmart Shoppers (1+ / 0-)
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        My local Walmart is one of the favorite hangouts for people collecting signatures for state propositions.

        The favorites seem to be related to Gun Ammo and similar. People line up to sign these stupid propositions and I just walk by shaking my head every time.

        I'm in a rural county east of Sacramento and that might have something to do with it but who knows.

        My invisible imaginary friend is the "true" creator

        by Mr Robert on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:22:05 AM PST

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        •  A few years ago, some tea party freak was trying (1+ / 0-)
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          to collect signatures for an anti-tax measure that would have severely impacted our schools.  This idiot approached me as I was getting out of my car in the supermarket parking lot.

          First off, this guy's form was completely off-putting. He should have NEVER approached me as I was getting out of my car.  My initial thought was i was about to be panhandled!  He should have stood on the sidewalk (or behind a table if the property owner allowed it) and had a sign that clearly indicated why he was there.

          Then the guy proceeded with a very pressured, quick speech about taxes, big guvmit, and freedom.  I declined to sign his petition and he just went off on me.  I yelled back, "I have kids who go to these schools, and guess what?  Great schools cost money.  It is foolish to sacrifice the next generation's future so some Cadillac driving retiree could save a penny on the dollar in sales taxes."  (Did I mention he was a senior citizen)  He yelled more at me as I proceeded to walk into the store.  I turned back and said, "Gee I hope you have the store's permission to be here, because I'm about to tell the manager that you are harassing their customers."  

          I did just that.  They know me at this store since a school buddy of my grown son was a manger there at that time, AND he was on duty.  Hah!  He let me know that there is a process an organization can go through to get permission to set up a table for petitions.  It isn't difficult and costs no money, but a lot of organizations just don't do that.  They show up and roam amongst the cars.  He also said the store does want to know if their customers have problems with these free-lancers.

          •  They have never approached me (0+ / 0-)

            in the parking lot. They all have a table set up close to the entry/exit in front of the store and they seem to behave themselves. At least that's the case with my local Walmart.

            The local Cost Less Foods also allows certain organizations to set up shop in front of their store and that's a different matter. They can be a little obnoxious. They will smoke within feet of the entrance and some of them will harass you if you don't donate to them.

            Back before Xmas some old fart with "Victory Village" made some snide remark as I was leaving the store which pretty much guarantees that they will never get a dime from me.

            My invisible imaginary friend is the "true" creator

            by Mr Robert on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 01:48:20 PM PST

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          •  money? (1+ / 0-)
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            Money will not save public education in America. education in America is still an industrial model.

            Children are born with a desire to learn but the time they reach the       forth grade most are turned off by the system that allows schools to be run by administrators for administrators. not for the benefit of the teachers or the students.

            Individualism has its drawbacks in education. America is becoming a second rate nation on its way to third world status.

            Not to get upset every empire finds ways to self destruct.

            Think of a nation that spends 50 to 60% of its national taxes on its military but yet allows its infrastructure to self destruct.

            •  Sorry, but money DOES matter. Both of my parents (1+ / 0-)
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              were lifelong teachers and my son and a niece just started their careers in education.  

              My mom with a M.A. in Education and a M.A. in Special Education put as many years into her training as I did to get an M.D.  I'm paid an obscene amount more than she ever was.  My Mom and Dad would literally scrounge around for loose change in the house and car to buy paper, pencils, and books for their students, items that sometimes didn't get supplied by the school district or the students' parents.  

              Money was always tight at home, and my mom went back to work after having us much sooner than our friends' moms did, if they ever returned to work outside the home at all.  At least my parents spent most of their years as educators during a time when teachers were afforded more respect than they are now.  Now, they are public enemy number one, blamed for everything that is wrong in our schools. Even back then, my mom would point out to us that she could have been a lawyer or had a medical degree for what she had invested time wise in her education, the implication being, do that, not what I did.

              My son took a job in a rural school district 2 1/2 hours away from here, where our "wealthy" school district now has 40 plus elementary students per teacher/class and just cut the number of teacher's aides in half.  They used to have one aide in the morning and another in the afternoon (can't have full time aides since the district can't afford benefits).  At the high school level, music, art, foreign language, advanced math and science classes have all been cut or reduced.  Also laid off; the counseling staff.

              My son had a year of experience at a charter school that was going to downsize for the current school year.  The owner of this charter school was certainly motivated by making money.  The downsizing was implemented to improve the bottom line. Funny how charter schools can be run by for profit companies, but a public school administrator begging for needed funds is considered an enemy of the taxpayer.

              When my son received notice that his contract wouldn't be renewed the following academic year, he contacted everyone he knew in the area and surrounding districts only to learn that not only were they not hiring teachers and staff, but they were going to have to let people go.  He felt fortunate to be hired where he was.  His position is directly federally funded since it is a Title 1 school.  

              Not much direct federal aid makes it into the local school district here where the median home price and per household income is the highest in the state. I don't think a majority of our citizens here want what is happening in our schools, unless they have children they probably don't know what is going on.  Because of a lack of civic engagement and apathy, we have allowed the tea party freaks to vote down needed funding because, FREEDOM!!!

              So until you experience, as a child, watching your teacher parents carefully pull books, paper, crayons, pencils, and stickers out of the family desk, to take to their students who have less, because the district can't afford it, please don't tell me it's not about money.

  •  In other news: If the Earth continues (13+ / 0-)

    to spin, the sun will rise in the east.  Yes, folks it really is that simple.  Turnout turnout turnout!

    “...To allow the market mechanism to be sole director of the fate of human beings and their natural environment... would result in the demolition of society." - Karl Polanyi (The Great Transformation)

    by DaveV on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 09:56:16 AM PST

  •  I'll add a broken-record reminder: Congress (23+ / 0-)

    is on the ballot this year, not Obama. Your feelings on the latter should not affect your voting on the former, especially if the election is contested by a Republican.

    While you dream of Utopia, we're here on Earth, getting things done.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 09:57:41 AM PST

  •  Amen brother (6+ / 0-)

    GOTV, plain and simple.

    •  Amen. 2010 purists, Hillary supporter/whiners were (0+ / 0-)

      a much help for the TP.

      •  I should really hide-rate this (4+ / 0-)
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        Shahryar, bryduck, Tool, raboof

        for propagating this zombie lie. It has been demonstrated over and over and over again that self-described liberals voted in 2006 and 2010 in near-identical rates, but that fact seems impossible to penetrate the skulls of reflexive hippie-punchers.

        Maybe you should try to read the fking article for comprehension this time. What part of OBAMA'S BASE DIDN'T TURN OUT were you unable to understand?

        Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

        by milkbone on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:16:00 AM PST

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    •  Votes have to be earned. (4+ / 0-)
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      Mr Robert, commonmass, AlexDrew, Tool

      The Democratic Party needs to show it fights for working Americans, not just that it is the lessor of two evils. I'm sick of well to do Democratic politicians throwing in the towel at the first obstacle, and then telling people worrying about feeding their kids or going homeless that they did the best they could.

      Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

      by rhonan on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:22:24 AM PST

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      •  I wonder (1+ / 0-)
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        AlexDrew

        if there is any way to communicate this to Senate Dems, short of primary threats.

        Primaries never seem to be on the agenda

        Hillary Clinton criticized China for letting Snowden go

        by GideonAB on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:32:50 AM PST

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        •  Nearly impossible without party support. (0+ / 0-)

          I know my two Democratic Senators have no fear from a primary challenger. As long as they keep the backing of major donors, they can outspend almost any grassroots challenger. In the years I have been voting for Patty Murray, I've watcher her go from the Soccer-Mom in Tennis Shoes of her first campaign, to the consummate DC insider who had no problem crafting a budget deal that hurts working families. Then the other day watch her vote for a farm bill that targets only 14 states, including ours, for SNAP cuts. Even so, there is no chance of a successful primary challenge being mounted. That's why I support public funding of elections, with a complete ban on private money.

          Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

          by rhonan on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:48:47 AM PST

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  •  Key Word would be "IF"... (3+ / 0-)

    History would indicate the answer to be "No".

  •  I'll sound like a broken record (7+ / 0-)

    when I say this:

    REJECT KEYSTONE and we turn out.

    Approve it and you have 2010 all over again.

    Thems the facts. Want the most energized part of your base to turn out? Reject keystone and we may retake the house.

    “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

    by Tool on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:06:37 AM PST

    •  Single issue politics? (15+ / 0-)

      Want the most energized part of your base to turn out?

      No -- we want all the rest of the folks to turn out.

      If Latinos voted in full force in Texas, the state could turn blue.  Don't you think, say, immigration reform, unemployment benefits, Obamacare, and women's health rights are more important there than Keystone?

      •  OK, fine. (5+ / 0-)
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        Tool, PorridgeGun, misterwade, quill, Mr Robert

        Expand Social Security, renew unemployment insurance, restore those SNAP cuts, push John Conyers' Jobs for All Bill, and reject Keystone.

        Then we'll turn out.

        I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:30:13 AM PST

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      •  And if you don't give a shit if we turn out (4+ / 0-)
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        misterwade, Tool, quill, Mr Robert

        but you want the rest of the folks to turn out, better get moving on that government-created jobs program, restoration of SNAP, expansion of Social Security, and restoration of unemployment insurance.

        Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to throw the Wall St criminals in jail, either. Better late than never.

        I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:43:39 AM PST

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      •  Keystone should not be so pivotal (5+ / 0-)

        If you are an environmentalist, how do you argue against Keystone when the tar sands oil is going to be extracted anyway and the alternative means of transporting it are far more dangerous? Freight rail transport of crude oil has increased more than 8000% in recent years, and older less safeguarded pipelines are also not a better alternative.

        I can't imagine Keystone approval having anything like the kind of impact Tool is predicting--unions support it pretty solidly and they are a huge part of GOTV for the dems. Best thing to do with Keystone is to use it for leverage, get extended UI benefits and/or an increase in the minimum wage for it. The best arguments against it are now moot.

      •  Single issues add up. (3+ / 0-)
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        play jurist, Tool, Noodles

        A mother trying to feed her kids worries more about SNAP than other issues. The retired, and those close to that age, care a great deal about Social Security. Sometimes it is a single issue that is enough to get someone to get up and wait in line to vote. Why should someone do that when they don't see a difference between the two parties on the issues they care about? KeystoneXL is an excellent issue to illustrate that. If we had a Democratic party operating from a cohesive progressive philosophy. KeystoneXL would be DOA. Same with TPP.

        Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

        by rhonan on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:32:15 AM PST

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        •  These are the voters we need to focus on (0+ / 0-)

          I myself do not favor single issue voting but it is a real factor for a number of people. I have one or two issues that certainly are my soapbox issues, but I still think it's wise to pay attention to the overall picture. Republicans have used single issue voting very successfully for decades, so it does work.

          If nothing else though the problem with it is if we are effective on certain single issues and fix them, those voters will then tend to drift away because in their mind their job is done...

          •  I think single-issue voters are myoptic too. (1+ / 0-)
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            I wasn't talking about that, so much as everybody has issues that are more important to them. When you feel that your party is repeatedly throwing the interests of working class voters under the table, there is often one issue they care about that keeps them motivated to go to the polls, even when they are questioning whether it even matters. Leave voters in the lurch on that one issue, and it becomes the straw that broke the camel's back.

            Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

            by rhonan on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 06:35:38 PM PST

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      •  All those issues (0+ / 0-)

        you listed are important and I very much believe Texas will be blue within the next two cycles but they all require something Keystone does not.

        Legislative action.

        Passing republican obstructionism.

        Keystone requires a pen & there is no downside to rejecting it.

        “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

        by Tool on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 01:13:57 PM PST

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    •  I reject this analysis (12+ / 0-)

      Sorry, but I think there is a huge gulf between the energized base and the people who aren't voting in off-year elections.

      In fact, I will bet that most of the people who are on the fence as to voting in 2014 have never heard of Keystone, and if you explained it to them for 30 seconds would not care about what they learned.

      What motivates Kossacks to sign petitions and write letters is not what gets a young person minimally interested in politics to the polls.

      I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

      by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:23:04 AM PST

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      •  Well, to be fair, Tool--whom I have met-- (3+ / 0-)
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        is a young person. And he votes.

        Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

        by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:27:34 AM PST

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        •  I am not a single (4+ / 0-)

          issue voter. As a young person I take into consideration student loan debt, unemployment cuts, privacy/intelligence gathering at the NSA, cuts to education, ALEC bills, Medicare/Medicard, social security or "entitlement reforms , gun control and many other issues that affect myself, my family & my country.

          Most action on any of those issues has been delayed, stalled, and watered down by Republicans & third way conserva Dems.  

          90% of the country wanted some form of gun control legislation pasted.  Didn't happen due to gun lobby.

          70 - 80% wanted sons form of a public option. Didn't happen due to insurance lobby.

          Now a great many young voters, millennials, first time voters, activists, volunteers, and people concerned about climate change or shall I say the "climate lobby" do not want this pipeline to go forward. It is uniquely in the hands of President Obama to give his base a win when progressives continually lose. If he squanders this opportunity to energize at least 20% of his most devoted base then we will not have the GOTV turn out we need to reclaim the House.

          It is not about being single issue or having a purity test but about giving your base a win finally after 5 years of shit sandwiches. Climate change is not a single issue, it is ThE issue. I went to a few local OFA meetings and the consensus of the 20 something's was if this pipeline passes, you can forget my vote.

          “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

          by Tool on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:43:24 AM PST

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          •  Good thinking but ... (5+ / 0-)

            the people who go to OFA meetings are not the people we need to turn out.

            It's the people who have never voted in an off-cycle election in their lives and who don't even know who their Congressional Representative is.

            OFA types are very useful, but what they are useful FOR is persuading the roughly 1,000 times as many low-information low-motivation voters to turn out.

            I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

            by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:46:37 AM PST

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            •  Right. I agreed (5+ / 0-)

              But if you've gone door to door in the past you know it can be harsh. It is way easier to convince people to vote when you can point to a list of accomplishments like "Hey we rejected the pipeline" & Hey we got unemployment extensions passed, or "We expanded social security"!

              Way harder to motivate other people to vote when your message is "hey we tried really hard and no one got what they wanted so we have to embrace the suck".

              Base needs a win to turn out and to be energized to spread the message. If OFA types aren't motivated then we aren't going to reach all the people we need to overcome the gerrymandered districts.

              There is no political downside to rejecting the pipeline and it stops the Koch brothers from making another 100 billion dollars.

              “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

              by Tool on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:56:31 AM PST

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              •  So you think rejecting Keystone is (3+ / 0-)
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                the single biggest issue that you'll need as a door-knocker?

                I think that would require most voters to know about, and also care about, KXL.

                I think that showing them progress on minimum wage, gay marriage, and the EPA regulating CO2 might help. Among other things.

                Because it really does suck to have this Congress, for America and for the Earth.

                I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

                by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:10:06 AM PST

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              •  people do not care about accomplishments (1+ / 0-)
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                connect with emotionally and they will crawl over ground glass to vote

                WE care about particular accomplishments, but most voters are not like us

                Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
                DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
                Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

                by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:22:26 AM PST

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              •  can we be sure that a win would (1+ / 0-)
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                have that effect?

                Voters can be hard to fathom

                Hillary Clinton criticized China for letting Snowden go

                by GideonAB on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:36:56 AM PST

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              •  Keystone is only a blip concerning climate change (1+ / 0-)
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                The only thing which will fix that monster of a problem is a long period of Democratic control over the Congress, the White House, and eventually a Supreme Court with a liberal majority.

                BTW, while it certainly isn't single payer by any means, the ACA isn't a shit sandwich. And getting Republicans to back down on the shutting down the government, getting them to raise the debt ceiling, and now admitting that income equality and mobility and lack of opportunity are real issues, are not what I would call delivering us a shit sandwich.

                Nor was holding on to the White House by a good margin, and adding seats in both houses of Congress in 2012 when it looked like we were initially destined to lose seats in both houses. I'm sorry, while I understand Keystone is a soapbox issue for you, whatever the result you can't let that keep you or anyone from trying to get out the vote in historic numbers for an off year election.

          •  As a guy twice your age, I applaud your (5+ / 0-)

            engagement on the issues and your activism. I wish more people of your generation were as passionate as you are about politics and climate change.

            Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

            by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:47:01 AM PST

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      •  Single issue? Like abolitionism? (1+ / 0-)
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        There are a lot of us who care a lot whether the president is really serious about stopping climate change. To stop changing the climate it is necessary to leave the tar sands in the ground. It should be our national policy that such resources are a bridge resource to insulate North America from global price shocks while we transition off of fossil fuels. Hence, from both an ecological and "energy independence" standpoint we should want that oil landlocked and not have export pipelines built. If industry gets the infrastructure they want it opens up a reserve that represents 75% of North America's emmissions in a fair share 2c scenario.

        This is a single issue, but it is a matter of life or death. Dismissing climate voters as "single issue" is as morally hollow as saying the same of abolitionists. Hundreds of millions of lives are at stake. The alternative to climate denial is taking those stakes seriously. This shit is fucking grave.

        I agree, however, with your point that most people, due to the utter failure of the media to accurately report basic scientific facts, don't care that much one way or the other. But that point doesn't support your argument. For a great many it's not a crucial issue. For an informed minority it is, and the Democratic Party needs to show us that despite the Manchins and Landrieus if we elect them they will do whatever they can to avert the looming climate crisis. If they lose even just 5% of voters because the president approves an export pipeline for the worst oil on earth for climate change it will be significant in many districts.

        Passive renunciation is not the whole of wisdom.

        by play jurist on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 01:36:05 PM PST

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        •  My most important issue is campaign reform (0+ / 0-)

          I believe that getting money out of the hands of politicians and limiting the campaign season and how much money can be spent by anyone on political speech (i.e. having equal speech) is the one reform which would be the mother of all liberal issues which I think we to have changed. I believe it would birth the greatest number of solutions for all those other issues we are concerned about.

          With that said, if I waited around for campaign reform to become the driving issue for progressives, and ultimately the  Democratic party leadership, I'd never get myself or anyone out to vote for quite a while to come if I needed my soapbox issue made real before I help with all the other issues.

    •  Good grief. More 2010 purist mentality. If you (2+ / 0-)
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      don't oppose one issue (pipeline) we'll show you. We'll not oppose TPers getting reelected. How did that work in 2011-2014?

    •  Who do you mean by "we"? (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Good try, but any focus on policy or values (2+ / 0-)
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      or morality will likely receive a contemptuous response of some kind. This is a diary about getting people elected, and as we all know moral values have nothing to do with getting elected.

      I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:40:06 AM PST

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      •  Give Tool a break. He's passionate on this. (2+ / 0-)
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        Someone has to be. He's a good guy, and a good progressive. He has an opinion. Let him have it.

        Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

        by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:51:52 AM PST

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        •  Thank you Commonmass:) (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't mind  the pushback. I would be faster in response if I wasn't on my way to class on a bus:) I come to dailykos to learn and be challenged. I'd love to be proven wrong or shown another way we can motivate the base that doesn't require anything but the presidents own actions and we get to bypass the entire republican House.

          “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

          by Tool on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:00:25 AM PST

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          •  Stick to your guns, Tool (metaphorically (2+ / 0-)
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            of course).

            You're right. Or, rather, you're closer to right than the uber-pragmatists.

            I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:07:56 AM PST

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        •  I'm on Tool's side in this. (2+ / 0-)
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          I was being snarky, Bitchy, too. But not at Tool.

          I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:00:45 AM PST

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          •  Tool is an amazing young Democrat. (2+ / 0-)
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            I met him at NN 12 and was very impressed by him. We need more like him.

            Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

            by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:03:32 AM PST

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            •  Thank you:) you are making me blush with (2+ / 0-)
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              the praise. I know I'm right that in rejecting keystone we have an electoral winning issue. He'll wasn't half of the SOTU address dedicated to telling us that the President will bypass congress when he can? Well he can bypass them on the pipeline and give voters a clear reason why they should turn out. "All of the above" energy policy doesn't fly with 20 something's who are engaged.

              “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

              by Tool on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 12:57:01 PM PST

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              •  Doesn't fly with anybody with their eyes open. (0+ / 0-)

                I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

                by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 04:29:08 PM PST

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    •  What affects people is unemployment, abortion... (0+ / 0-)

      ...an other restrictions on women's rights including wages. Speaking of wages that affects everyone, not only minimum wage earners but as the president said last week "America needs a raise!" And people are restricted freedoms if they are gay, immigrants (including legal ones) people of color who are restricted from voting, liberal jobs bills not even allowed to be voted on or taxes raised on the wealthiest...etc. etc. etc.

      All things which should be targeted towards Democratic voters who are oppressed by the Republican congress. This is where our money and efforts need to be spent. And there is a bonus. If you get enough Democrats fired up to show up at the polls, especially if it becomes late breaking news come September and October, it might cause some independents to conclude that it's time for the GOP to go.

      Either way Keystone will not effect whether I vote or encourage others to vote. I think Obama, overall, is much more sympathetic to the progressive view this time as is the Democratic leadership, if only because we have changed the dialogue and they must get behind it. That will encourage us rather than discourage us as he completely ignored his base's advice in 2010.

  •  I hear there are people who have never voted. (19+ / 0-)

    I can't imagine that, because I vote in every election I can. I don't care if it's a school bond issue or a by-election to fill a vacant Selectman seat or a regular election for Congresscritters or President, I vote. Every time.

    I personally like the broken record you're playing, Markos. People have to get out and vote, and those of us who do already need to help motivate those who don't.

    Our Republic functions best when everyone votes.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:07:08 AM PST

    •  i have never missed an election (1+ / 0-)
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      my mom, who also never missed an election, would have been horrified when she was alive

      and now that she is gone she would probably slap me silly from the next life if I failed to vote

      Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
      DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
      Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:23:47 AM PST

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      •  I come from a family of immigrants, and I (1+ / 0-)
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        get that. One would think that immigrants and people of color would always vote. But not necessarily. That's what we need to change, and that's where we come in--we've got to GOTV and help those who would like to vote but aren't quite motivated, or don't have their "papers" in order.

        My dear late Grandmother couldn't vote today in a lot of states because she never had a birth certificate. She got Federal security clearance based on her baptismal certificate (in Church Slavonic, she was Russian Orthodox) back in the 60s. Today, in many states, she'd be denied the right to vote.

        This move to disenfranchise people is real, and it's Republican. We must counter this, and we must be steadfast in our efforts.

        Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

        by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:28:54 AM PST

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  •  nothing on Immigration, the slashing of (3+ / 0-)
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    food stamps,  not extending unemployment...  all these things will, or should, help get out the votes.

  •  This is a topic that has driven me nuts (3+ / 0-)
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    throughout the nineties and early 2000's. Oh, how I WANT to believe the Democratic Corporate Powers That Be have finally gotten this message. Thank you for writing this piece, your facts seem to indicate movement in the right direction - which would be LEFT, of course!

  •  I think voting is fun (8+ / 0-)

    Telling the old ladies what street you live on, Filling out the circles, hearing the ballot go cha-chung. I can't imagine people not wanting to do it. It the second most fun experience after a car wash.

    Why do I have the feeling George W. Bush joined the Stonecutters, ate a mess of ribs, and used the Constitution as a napkin?

    by Matt Z on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:09:59 AM PST

  •  Most Independent Voters Are Republicans Who (8+ / 0-)

    hide who they are, or just ashamed to admit they are a republican.  Moderates are not the same as independent.  Going after independents is a losing candidates game.  If you are trying to get independents over to your side late in the game than you are losing.  Democrats need to give their base something to come out and vote for.  Sometimes the candidate is not enough.  The democratic candidate needs to offer something to the base that makes them want to come out and support them.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:11:34 AM PST

    •  There are unenrolled voters in some states (4+ / 0-)

      who are not crypto-Republicans. Massachusetts is such a state. Many unenrolled voters in that commonwealth vote Democratic. But on the national level, I think you're probably correct.

      Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

      by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:16:07 AM PST

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    •  disagree in part.... (0+ / 0-)

      the sympathies of non-voters will vary by state. Non-voters in places like Vermont will think differently than non-voters in Arizona. Rule of thumb is that they'll break roughly similar to the partisan ratio. So going for indies or non-voters in blue states will generally be more profitable than in red or purple states. My takeaway from the OP is that (hopefully) the national Democratic party has figured this out, and will make inroads in red & purple states because they're not going to keep wasting time & resources going after indies. Watering the message down for squishy non-voters runs the risk of losing base votes (and manpower) in the process. And then you get 2010.

      I do agree that these days there seem to be a disproportionate number of disaffected right-wingers that aren't self-identifying as Republicans for whatever reason. But I don't think this class of citizen is evenly distributed in every state.

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      by nota bene on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:51:58 AM PST

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  •  Specifically for Georgia... (13+ / 0-)

    I live in north GA, the reddest of the red portions of the state, I'm a county chair and I've ran (am running) for state house, so let me add a bit more perspective:

    1) Yes, core Democratic vote is the first concern. In my part of the state, that gets you to about the 25-30% range. Now, other parts of Georgia are much more Democratic friendly. But even there, expecting the Democratic vote to turn out THAT much is putting too many eggs in one basket. So, we need to go a bit further. For a state-wide campaign, that gets you up around 38-40% ballpark if you do a good bit of voter registration successfully.

    2) Independents. In the TRUE sense of that word, with 'independent' being a very narrow range of voters, given their typical turnout, a Democratic candidate can achieve about 2/3 of that vote if they're sensible and the Republican candidate is BS-crazy...which they usually are. That will add another 3% or so.

    3) Younger voters. Another demographic that trends are way, the trick is getting them out. Statewide, with a good push, a Democrat can add about 3-5% more to their total, putting them in the mid-40% range.

    4) Leaning Republicans. These are people who self-identify as conservatives but aren't diehard Republicans. You DO HAVE TO WIN some of these people over in Georgia to win the race. But, as you can see, its not a huge amount, and by targeting parent-aged voters, particularly female, it can be done.

    So, no, it's not just about the base vote, although that is the first concern. In a state like Georgia, it takes a multi-level approach.

    •  Thank you. You know your field work! (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm tired of Advice from Above, to the effect that we can disregard this group or that.

      Of course, you make sure the regulars are with you. And much of what you say to them will resonate with the disaffected, and maybe also with the ex-blasé who can be energized when they see how a vital interest of theirs (health care, everyone?) is being undercut by some zealot.

      As for the others, capitalize on descriptions of facts that show how Far Out the other guy is. What the ads say will be similar to all groups. It's the smart and diligent field work that produces necessary turnout in off-Presidential elections.

      Tom is describing field work in virtually EVERY state.

      2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

      by TRPChicago on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:45:41 AM PST

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    •  Go Blue Georgia! (0+ / 0-)

      Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
      DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
      Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:24:39 AM PST

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  •  California shows this works (7+ / 0-)

    Agreed. In the 70s and 80s, the Reps found an expandable constituency by bringing more evangelicals into the electorate and ensuring they turned into/became staunch Republicans.

    In the 90s and 00s, Dems in states like California, wittingly and unwittingly, facilitated the rapidly expanding participation of emerging constituencies among Latino and various Asian American, and African American potential voters. Guess what? Dems win. We also win majorities of most young folks.

    Time to go national with what has worked here. The model exists.

    •  speaking of California.... (0+ / 0-)

      I think we might be seeing Pete Wilson's Prop 187 mistake get repeated on the national stage this year with the xenophobics' refusal to deal with immigration reform. It's going to be fun watching Pelosi & Reid try to sucker the House far-right fringe on this issue in 2014.

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      by nota bene on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:00:26 AM PST

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  •  The myth of the base (2+ / 0-)
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    was the reason 2010 happened is often repeated.

    It is a myth.  The drop off from 2008 to 2010 was nearly identical from the drop off from 2004 to 2006.

    By all means lets try and duplicate the success of 2012 - but it is wrong to argue the falloff in 2010 was unique.

  •  If we don't Vet candidates (1+ / 0-)
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    it won't matter Who we elect.  Voting records of all pols is where the rubber hits the pavement and if We don't inform ourselves - regardless of party affiliation - The consequences of voting for the Least Bad and a voting straight Party Lines are a matter of recent record & tells us it won't matter much who gets in, imo!

    •  Yes it will. (9+ / 0-)

      Every Democrat is infinitely better than any Republican.

      •  Even Wall Street/Third Way? (1+ / 0-)
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        All I'm saying is--Vet them. If we don't like the way they represent us---If they are voting for corp benefit and their Own portfolios-shouldn't we challenge that should we disagree?
        But id we don't look-do the research-we too may be voting against our own interests.

        •  and then (0+ / 0-)

          what?  If Dem is standing that fails the vetting, then what do we do?

          Hillary Clinton criticized China for letting Snowden go

          by GideonAB on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 12:22:03 PM PST

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        •  The longer blue controls, the bluer we'll get (0+ / 0-)

          If we set the pace, frame the conversation, govern on the the issues (successfully, mind you), the liberal viewpoint will get broader and deeper across America. Keep in mind, to simply have progressives drive more people to the polls for more wins, in part by our arguments becoming more commonplace as they are this year, the more that will speed up the process towards liberalization.

          You ain't gonna have a lot of progressive control any time soon in Missouri, Alabama, the Dakotas, Arizona or a number of other places. Getting them to turn more pink or purple will take no less than a decade, if they change at all. It will also force Republicans to vote for more truly moderate conservatives instead of extremists to combat a bluer America.

    •  It has been a long time since I have been able to (4+ / 0-)
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      vote for anyone who wasn't "least bad". That includes the President.

      Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

      by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:21:36 AM PST

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    •  Take a look at Progressive Punch's database (3+ / 0-)
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      I have done so and I'll summarize the results.

      Link

      Looking only at votes that matter in this session, in the Senate, the worst Democrat votes "progressive" 1.5x as often as the best Republican (52% to 32%). If you look at medians, it's something like 45 to 1 (90% to 2%).

      That's right - a typical Republican Senator votes "progressive" about 2% of the time, while a typical Democratic Senator votes "progressive" about 90% of the time.

      It's a little less clear in the House. The worst Dem clocks in at 22% "progressive", the best Republican at 38%. Median still looks solid, at about 81% to 4%.

      Those bad Democrats are from swing and leaning Republican districts for the most part. Which is to say, even though some Republicans are better than these Democrats, the Republican that replaced them might bring the full Tea Brained crazy.

      As you can see, the "both parties are the same" meme is utter bullshit and is pretty close to being an HR'able conspiracy theory - not that you said that.

      With very rare exceptions - I'll guess maybe 5 in the whole House - voting a straight party line is wholesome and safe.

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      by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:39:05 AM PST

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      •  I will review (1+ / 0-)
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        I am NOT saying Both Parties are The Same.  I do NOT suggest and infer in Any way people should not vote.

        I'm saying We/Dems have elected some pretty shitty people---and they also need to be challenged.

        There are PLENTY of great New Progs running and we Absolutely must help re-elect the progs we have in office Now.
        But no matter Who they are--they must be vetted, carefully and challenged when we see something "out of place"..at Least ask them about it.

        Dems can be "fixed" (I think). There is, imo--Zero hope for the GOP/TP ilk.

        I'm saying-voting a straight party line-for Dems in this case, without "knowing" who they are aside from ads/speeches etc-is Not vetting and is potentially harmful to the rest of us.

  •  "base Democrats in Georgia" (3+ / 0-)

    Some being Expats of NY and New England who migrated to the south for work.

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:15:43 AM PST

  •  Turnout (4+ / 0-)
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    If, If, If, But our voters are too lazy to turn out in off year elections. There will be more than 40 Million less voters this year than 2012. The Republicans will turn out. What's our problem?
    And don't give me that garbage about how we on the left need someone to motivate us to do what we should be doing all along.

  •  Shorter version (6+ / 0-)

    If our voters are allowed to vote we win.

  •  Reporting from South GA (8+ / 0-)

    I am happy to report that Michelle Nunn's campaign is fully aware of the necessity of mobilizing Democratic voters.  She is touring the state meeting with activists to discuss strategies for this.  Her background in the volunteer sector makes her particularly sensitive to these issues

    Reporting from Tea Bagger occupied America

    by DrJohnB on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:17:58 AM PST

    •  Is that Sam Nunn's daughter? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

      by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:23:14 AM PST

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      •  Yes (4+ / 0-)

        She is a ConservaDem, but unfortunately the best we can hope for from Georgia at this time.  And as I said in the first comment, her background in volunteerism is promising.

        Reporting from Tea Bagger occupied America

        by DrJohnB on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:25:42 AM PST

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        •  I will take a ConservaDem over a Republican (7+ / 0-)

          any day.

          Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

          by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:31:37 AM PST

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          •  Half a loaf versus someone who steals (7+ / 0-)

            your loaf and throws it away because you haven't paid for your school lunch.

            I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

            by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:40:34 AM PST

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            •  Exactly. Look, if Democrats turn out here in (3+ / 0-)
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              Maine in November, we'll elect a moderate-conservative Democrat (Mike Michaud, ME-02) to replace our tea party artifact of a Governor, little Paulie LePage. But Mike is a Democrat, an environmentalist, and an openly gay man. I'll vote proudly for Mike.

              Is Mike a progressive? No. But he's infinitely better than the alternatives.

              Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

              by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:43:42 AM PST

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            •  And then punches you in the face (1+ / 0-)
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              and complains that you broke his hand.

              "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

              by bryduck on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 12:17:31 PM PST

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          •  Not anymore. (2+ / 0-)
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            Conservadems get in power and not only drive the party rightward with votes on policy but also through candidate recruitment and allocation of funds to some Dem candidates while starving others for oxygen. They're more concerned with shutting down progressive and liberal points of view than they are with establishing and furthering Democratic majorities.

            I'm not playing their game anymore. It's because of them, arguably, that we lost the House in 2010.

            I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:53:42 AM PST

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            •  what (0+ / 0-)

              is the right way to play "the game" then?

              What lesson is there to learn?

              Hillary Clinton criticized China for letting Snowden go

              by GideonAB on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 12:18:11 PM PST

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              •  That's a big discussion (0+ / 0-)

                To answer specifically would take a diary series, and obviously even if I wrote a diary series I wouldn't have all the answers.

                If you'd like a general answer: I'd start with building political infrastructure.

                 I'd assess what our needs are and what our resources are. And I'd take a look at our enemies' resources to see if there was anything there I could learn from or co-opt.

                And then I'd build infrastructure to serve our needs, co-opting what I could, inventing what I couldn't. This is essentially what rich American conservatives did starting in the 70s after the Powell memo.

                My guess is that a lot of the initial work would involve building a true alternative media that could reach millions of people without costing millions of dollars. We invented the blogosphere, but it isn't enough. It's the MSM that is driving the price of electoral campaigns higher and higher, so that everyone other than the billionaires are priced out of democracy. We need to find a way to throw a wrench into that process.

                This isn't work most people want to do. It's much more satisfying and concrete to tackle "We need to get 17 more seats!" or "We need to defend 10 seats in the Senate!" The problem is that none of that works at this point. We keep winning elections, and the policy keeps getting worse and worse and the situation in the country keeps getting worse and worse. To quote Luke Skywalker, "Why are we still moving towards it?"

                I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

                by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 04:43:06 PM PST

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                •  this aligns with (1+ / 0-)
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                  some of my own thinking.

                  Senate Dems can use the existing media against the Republicans.  We just need to find House candidate who will push the Dems to do this.

                  Our 2013 pick, Robin Kelly, is not doing this

                  I think we should select candidates who will speak out to get the Senate leadership to push the Republicans hard in the media

                  by GideonAB on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 05:50:03 AM PST

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          •  me too. numbers count when it comes to (1+ / 0-)
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            committee chairmanships and whether legislation even gets to the floor

            Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
            DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
            Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

            by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:25:54 AM PST

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        •  2014 is NOT the year to sit out because the ... (4+ / 0-)
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          ... only Dem capable of winning is a "Conserva-". THAT would be our own unforced error. The margins are just too close. I'll take gaining and maintaining a majority over purity in 2014.

          2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

          by TRPChicago on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:50:41 AM PST

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          •  It's never the right year to leave Vietnam. (3+ / 0-)
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            Enjoy the SNAP cuts, the increased unemployment (without benefits) and the continued assault on Social Security.

            Oh, and more foul shit in the water when the pipelines burst.

            I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:02:26 AM PST

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            •  So, you want to beat some of us this year, to ... (1+ / 0-)
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              ... teach the survivors a lesson? What's the lesson?

              2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

              by TRPChicago on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:19:50 AM PST

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              •  I want to beat some of you....wait, what? (0+ / 0-)

                Please spell it out, cause I ain't getting it.

                I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

                by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 04:28:24 PM PST

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                •  Perhaps I misread your comment stream. (0+ / 0-)

                  The diary is about turnout. You were critical of Conservadems, to the point that when we concentrate on electing Democrats generally, we also perpetuate Democrats who favor rightward policies we don't like.

                  My comment was that if we spurn ConservaDems where they are the only candidates with a chance to win, we risk losses for the sake of purity. To which you responded with a list of what I take you to think are lousy political results due to ConservaDem sentiments.

                  So I'm thinking that in the context of this diary, you favor not voting for ConservaDems. In a turnout year. Therefore, I asked what lesson beating a Democrat would provide and to whom?

                  Did I get the stream of comments right? If so, what's the lesson?

                  2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

                  by TRPChicago on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 06:21:06 PM PST

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                  •  First off, every election year is a turnout year. (1+ / 0-)
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                    If we've learned anything, it's that it's never the right year to leave Vietnam--in other words, it's never the right year to challenge the Conservadems for their control of the party. It's always the year when it's too dangerous to do that because Republicans might win. Every election year that same talking point gets brought out.

                    The talking point in question is: "where they (conservative Democrats) are the only candidates with a chance to win." That's a leftover talking point from the late eighties and early nineties when they were often the only candidates with a chance to win.

                    Despite the fact that the American electorate has moved left on multiple issues, we still act like that talking point is gospel truth. The reason Howard Dean got marginalized, other than the fact that a lot of DC pols hated him, is that Dean didn't drink that particular Kool-aid. He really did want to talk to the guy with the Confederate flag on his truck and convince him that his kids needed health insurance too. And he was pretty damned good at it. Which is why Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is in charge of the DNC and he isn't.

                    As a campaign manager myself, rather than continue to traipse after the remains of the DLC Dems and their inheritors, relying on the craziness of my Republican opposition to sell my candidates and hoping that their lunacy distracts the electorate from the fact that I just cut 8 million dollars from food stamps and did not reinstate unemployment insurance, as well as from the fact that I've got Social Security cuts in my proposed budget, I would suggest pioneering a new kind of moderate Democrat: the kind that supports Social Security wholeheartedly (like 87% of the American population) that wants to create decent-paying jobs for the American people by any means necessary (like 77% of the American population) that wants to get Wall St back under control by reinstituting the legal protections we had during the Great Depression, that supports clean energy and energy efficiency, with an emphasis on science, innovation, and jobs; that supports protectionist trade policies to protect American jobs; that shuts down that damned building in the Grand Cayman islands and tells the rich that they have to pay taxes the same as their employees do.

                    These are all moderate positions anywhere outside of the Beltway. And packaged correctly, they'd fly anywhere outside of the craziest tea party districts. I propose a 50-state strategy based on economic populism and equality under the law.

                    I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

                    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 07:05:46 AM PST

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                    •  You're "on a mission to civilize," as Will puts... (1+ / 0-)
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                      ... it in Season One of The Newsroom, and bless you for it. When Charlie, his boss, asks how that is going, Will replies, "Progress is slow but I'm working on it."

                      We just disagree whether that "leftover talking point" from the old days is still valid. I think it is. But if you can put up an authentic liberal-Progressive candidate in marginal districts we might win but haven't in the last couple elections, go for it!

                      2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

                      by TRPChicago on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 07:42:33 AM PST

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                      •  We can't *call* it liberal-progressive. (0+ / 0-)

                        What we do is take the liberal economic positions that most of America agrees with anyway and call them moderate positions and put them into the mouths of candidates that call themselves moderates. That forces conservatives to say "Hey! Those aren't moderate positions, they're liberal!" At which point you say "Supporting Social Security is liberal?" or "Creating decent jobs for the American people is liberal?" And whichever way they answer, or even if they prevaricate, they look like assholes.

                         Honestly, "moderate" is really a kind of weasel-word in politics, because everybody or almost everybody thinks that they're a moderate and that they have moderate positions.  So if you say that defending Social Security, for instance, is moderate, then it becomes moderate.  Just like if Ben Nelson or Lieberman says that the Bush tax cuts are moderate, then those become "moderate." The only difference is that I am basing my definition of "moderate" on public opinion polling. If more than 60% of America agrees with something, I think it's fair to say that that position is moderate in American politics. (It's also, in the most accurate sense of the word "centrist," but that word has been tainted beyond redemption.) So when 77% America says "create some damned jobs at a living wage, dammit, and I don't care how you do it" I take that to be a moderate position in American politics. When 87% of America says "don't cut Social Security--we'll pay higher taxes to prevent such a cut" I take support for Social Security to be a moderate position.

                        Now, of course, it helps to look at more than one poll when you're coming up with these ideas, but after watching polling for the last 2-3 years I have a pretty good idea that job creation, real wage raises, protection of Social Security and Medicare, and equal application of the law to rich and poor seem to be widely, not to say wildly, popular.

                        Gerrymandering of lunatics into lunatic districts is a challenge, but I'd say that constitutes about 80 districts out of 435. That leaves a lot of room to work. We can get around to the crazy districts after we've built up some momentum.

                        Now if I just had a party to work with that would at least give this approach a whirl!

                        Without that party support, what I have to do is figure out how to outdo people who will outspend me 7 or 8 to 1 with a pure grassroots effort. In other words, figure out how to make the low-budget campaign viable. Howard Dean did some great work on this 10 years ago, but we need a new level of innovation. That's where the real work is to be done in electoral politics, that's where the exciting cutting-edge stuff is going to happen--if it happens anywhere.

                        I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

                        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 08:54:25 AM PST

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                        •  Full speed ahead. (1+ / 0-)
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                          You make a compelling case for, ah, Moderation!

                          And as for Gerrymandering the political lunatics even more tightly together and farther away from us ... excellent goal!

                          2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

                          by TRPChicago on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 09:22:47 AM PST

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                          •  Well, thanks! :-) (0+ / 0-)

                            If I come up with anything concrete you'll know it within a couple cycles.

                            I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

                            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 12:03:03 PM PST

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                          •  Concrete meaning--the actual nuts and bolts (0+ / 0-)

                            of outdoing people who outspend you 8 to 1.

                            I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

                            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 12:03:25 PM PST

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  •  So, don't donate to candidate campaigns (3+ / 0-)
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    Donate to GOTV efforts.

    I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

    by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:20:14 AM PST

  •  Texas, Texas, Texas (9+ / 0-)

    If Democrats pushed big-time resources into Texas, pursuing the hundreds of thousands of unregistered minorities, then Texas should go blue - and not just for Wendy Davis as Governor.   If we take Texas in a Presidential race, there simply are no remaining avenues for the GOP to win the Presidency.

    A lot of people don't realize it, but a significant number of rural west and south Texas counties are already blue (heavy Latino).  

    Turning Texas blue is a feasible goal within the next decade - if we devote enough resources into turning out our vote.

    I'll put on my glasses.... and tell you how sweet your ass is. (w/ apologies to Señor Bega)

    by mHainds on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:20:25 AM PST

  •  Never forget: Third Way and DLC are more (7+ / 0-)

    dangerous to Democratic electoral prospects than third-parties ever were.

    I won't believe corporations are people until Texas executes one. Leo Gerard.

    by tgrshark13 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:23:23 AM PST

  •  right on Kos - prime example (8+ / 0-)

    VA Senate (state) special election races this past month.

    VA 6th - Dem candidate tried to do the whole R lite thing - independent / moderate conservatives (as if there are any of those left)-  did not focus on the base turnout and only won by 9 votes

    VA 33rd - Dem candidate (jennifer wexton) came out hard for women rights - mobilized the base to turn out - even on a snowy tuesday.  Won by a good margin

    Takin it to the Streets! time to GOTV

    by totallynext on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:27:24 AM PST

  •  I'm still with Howard Dean (5+ / 0-)

    The guy with the Confederate flag on the back of his truck should vote with us because his kids need health insurance too.

    Dean's strategy was working fairly well, too. Then he got kicked to the curb. Pity.

    Despite some disagreements I have with the guy on the Middle East, I think we could do far worse.

    Again, pity.

    I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:28:41 AM PST

  •  But But But .. fundamentals (3+ / 0-)
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    The quants already have us dead and buried in November, and probably losing the Senate, too. According to that mode of thinking, the election will be determined solely by the economy and historical norms, e.g., the so-called six-year itch, so why bother campaigning at all?

    I'm into nonviolence and all, but some days I feel like bashing those people on the head with their own laptops.

    It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness - Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Fish in Illinois on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:29:04 AM PST

  •  A Cupie doll? Or maybe a free vacation to (2+ / 0-)
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    Venezuela.

    "Fragmented and confused, we have no plan to combat any of this, but are looking to be saved by the very architects of our ruination."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:29:45 AM PST

  •  southern base (3+ / 0-)
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    I think the southern base you talk about is populated by a lot of people that are fed up with Rs and felt they had no choice but to vote for Obama.  Dems play defense too much--and thus, many Americans blame congress--not just the Rs in congress.  If Obama and friends went around trumpeting health care coverage--as if they were proud of the 3+ million newly covered, they would be heard.  If they singled out the names of local politicians who voted against the budget and the debt ceiling rise, and promised not to do the same, they would be heard.  But to just give long winded explanations gets lost on our tweety population.

    Actions speak louder than petitions.

    by melvynny on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:32:53 AM PST

  •  I sound like a broken record (1+ / 0-)
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    As a tweet put it, the current generation will ask "what is a record?"  And that is the one most prone to not coming out to vote, is it not? :)

  •  hot damn (3+ / 0-)
    “Campaigns are realizing that the smartest way to win the next vote is by mobilizing a nonvoter than by trying to win over a voter.”
    Howard Dean had this figured out ten years ago, but I hope this means the rest of the party is coming around....

    You WANT me on that server! You NEED me on that server!

    by nota bene on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:35:05 AM PST

  •  Also, by the way, (4+ / 0-)

    It's way past time that we pay attention to the role of the party and its organizations (DNC, DSCC, D-trip) and the leaders of those organizations in elections. These guys are like the wrestling bookers for electoral politics, and their decisions on who to push and who not to push have gotten real interesting in the past several years--and those decisions have received little discussion.

    Rob Zerban and Barbara Buono would like to know how much the Democratic party actually want an increase in the number of Democratic officeholders.

    This is an interesting tidbit from last cycle. Apparently challenging Ryan wasn't really a priority, even with a candidate with good numbers who raised 2 million dollars by himself.

    Not interested in being the party's chump anymore. They have questions to answer, and not all of them are about policy.

    I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:36:19 AM PST

  •  I commit (2+ / 0-)
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    to mingling around a bit and helping as many unregistered voters as I can to get registered. Even if I have to pay for the Birth certificate, if that is the issue, that they don't have a copy. Even if I need to take them don't to do it. I Will Every Chance I can find, I will at least offer it. I will express or try to impress the need for the people to all vote.

  •  It really is this simple. nt (1+ / 0-)
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  •  It's a mistake to assume that any constituency are (1+ / 0-)
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    "our voters".  Votes have to be earned, with results.  The days of thinking that you have any group "locked up" on election day are over.   The recent vote for Christie here in NJ shows that to be the case.   That's why everyone is working so hard to make sure that he won't get a chance to replicate that result on a national basis.  Hell, even the Republicans are working against him now.

    Politicians that can win independent of their party are considered dangerous.   Today, however, mass media and Twitter make it easier to run as a "free agent".  We will be seeing a lot more of that, mark my words.  

    “Most people are willing to take the Sermon on the Mount as a flag to sail under, but few will use it as a rudder by which to steer.” ― Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

    by SpamNunn on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:38:39 AM PST

  •  Heh. (1+ / 0-)
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    When some of us made that case 10 years ago, we were peremptorily dismissed as naive and unrealistic "purists".

    "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." ~Frederick Douglass

    by ActivistGuy on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:38:52 AM PST

  •  So where's the GOTV strategy? (1+ / 0-)
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    So where's the dailykos "get out the vote" strategy?  
    How are we going to help?

    •  Knock on doors and tell people Republicans (2+ / 0-)
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      are crazy. They'll probably believe you. May not go to the polls on that account, but they'll believe you.

      And what else will you have to say at the doors, after all?  When the Democrats are cutting SNAP, allowing unemployment insurance to lapse, and putting Social Security cuts into their budget. To say nothing of comparing the baby boom generation to a nuclear weapon that's going to destroy our future (awesome kickoff to the cycle, Sen. Durbin, thanks).

      I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:48:32 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  there will be plenty of GOTV diaries (0+ / 0-)

      this summer as voter registration deadlines approach

      Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
      DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
      Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:29:14 AM PST

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    •  My strategy would be (2+ / 0-)
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      a) Identify Obama voters who voted in the presidential but not in the mid-terms, particularly in swingy districts.

      b) Find ways to convince them that voting in the mid-term is key to helping Obama get to do the things they for Obama to do in the first place.

      I'm sure OFA has the resources to do this, and I'd be willing to give money to them if that was their strategy.

      Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

      by milkbone on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:29:52 AM PST

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    •  There are several. Here are a few I've seen work. (0+ / 0-)

      Contested primary- A contested primary actually RAISES voter awareness.  It helps if the candidates are particularly colorful or one is head-and-shoulders better.  Ideally, two candidates are good, but as we saw with the NY mayor's race, have a whole bunch! It will make the other side jealous.

      Grass Roots- Mobilize community groups, religious groups, etc...  Labor and teacher unions are always good go-tos, which is why Republican governors are trying to decimate them.  But we are becoming a more diverse nation.  Don't overlook ethnic community groups.  And if you happen to run one of these, host your own candidate's forum.  Don't wait for the candidate to reach out to you.

      Do you have a wide circle of friends?  Host a candidate's forum yourself.  Have voter registration forms available, too.

      Get Involved with the Local Party - they have the resources and, hopefully, the mobilization skills.  If you excel in those areas, they could use your expertise.  If not, they could use your time and energy making phone calls, delivering literature, coordinating rides to the polls on election day.

  •  Can you all smell it? (1+ / 0-)
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    Something's changing.  Battle lines are being drawn.  This is a hill that we mush take and hold if the human race is to evolve.  I believe more Americans are on board with this notion than ever before.  Also, from seeing the polls and seeing what the Republicans are doing to their own voting base, everyone is on the tipping point.  I'm usually an unrelenting cynic about the human race.  But, I can sense a shift happening.  We'll see how it pans out.  I'm going to be hopeful.

    What's the difference between the Federal government and organized crime? One's legally sanctioned.

    by FrankenPC on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:41:03 AM PST

  •  Our voters (2+ / 0-)
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    Sorry but we can only win if we appeal to everybody, men and women, blacks and whites, straights and gays.

    Not every white male is a bigot.

  •  50 state strategy. GOTV. Go Democratic Party! n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Randian Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of West Dakota!"

    by unclebucky on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:53:46 AM PST

  •  Chained CPI is loser (1+ / 0-)
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    The president's 2015 budget proposal is due out Mar 4. The WH isn't saying whether Chained CPI will be there again this year. IMO congressional democrats should be pushing Obama to drop this, and pushing HARD.  Republicans being allowed to say the president wants to cut your Social Security could prove to be fatal come November.

  •  I live in PA. (6+ / 0-)

    I will be voting for whatever Democrat is running against Tom Corbett in November.

    If this Democrat is not 100% to my liking, I will still vote for him or her.

    If this Democrat is not even 51% to my liking, I will still vote for him or her.

    If this Democrat turns out to be the Phillie Phanatic or a talking pierogie, I will still vote for him or her or it.

    Tom Corbett needs to go away, and any Democrat will be an improvement.

    Vote with your heads, not your hearts.

    Vote.

    And if you sit on your hands, please keep your whining to yourself.

    How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

    by BenderRodriguez on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 10:57:22 AM PST

  •  And it helps to have voter (3+ / 0-)
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    friendly issues on the ballots in the states - like minimum wage raises.

    ALL of our institutions have been hollowed out by the greed ethos. There are none left with heart intact or souls for that matter. So the zombie is all around us - me

    by glitterscale on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:00:04 AM PST

  •  If the Democrats want Working Class votes, (2+ / 0-)
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    Maybe they shouldn't throw us under the bus so easily. Why should the long-term unemployed for for Democrats that were not willing to fight for EUC? Why should a mother trying to feed her kids vote for Democrats who allowed a farm bill that cuts SNAP to pass? Why should workers who are worried about keeping their jobs vote Democrat when President Obama and Secretary Kerry both support a trade deal, TPP, that will ship even more American jobs overseas? Why should anyone who cares about the environment or global warming vote for a party that has not completely rejected KeystoneXL? I listened to my Rep in early December promise with Nancy Pelosi  that no budget deal without EUC would pass the House. He sure was silent about breaking that promise. I'm not wasting my vote on him again. I'll vote for whatever Socialist Alternative candidate runs against him.

    Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

    by rhonan on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:11:54 AM PST

    •  Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. (0+ / 0-)

      It's the same as not voting, to me.  Prove otherwise.

      •  KXL = neither perfect nor good. (1+ / 0-)
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        It's an export pipeline. Canada wants to triple production of the worst oil in the world for climate change, but they can't do that and sell to the upper midwest because they'll flood the market and drive down prices.

        Climate change has reached its abolitionist moment. What we're saying is the equivalent of "no new slave states" and we expect that to be the policy of top Democrats: viz. the president. No new fossil fuels infrastructure.

        Passive renunciation is not the whole of wisdom.

        by play jurist on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 01:53:59 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Who is talking about perfect. (0+ / 0-)

        If you were being executed, would you rather vote for the executioner who will use a firing squad, or the one who will have you broken on a wheel? If all the Democratic candidate is offering me is a less painful death, why should I chose them over someone who will fight at my side? I watched my supposedly good Democratic Senators for for a farm bill that targets our own state, along with 13 others, for SNAP cuts, while sparing red states across the country. Tell me how voting for a Socialist Alternative candidate, even if the Republican had won, would effect that Senate vote? How could the Republican have voted worse.

        Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

        by rhonan on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 06:19:53 PM PST

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  •  It's the inequality, stupid! (0+ / 0-)

    The latest Pew/USA TODAY poll is here.

    Almost 90% of Democrats—liberal, moderate, and conservative alike—think the government should act to reduce the gap between the rich and everyone else. 61% of moderate/liberal Republicans agree. Hell, 40% of conservative Republicans are on board.

    I look forward to hearing what the Republicans' response to this overwhelming rejection of their policies will be. Benghazi?

    What is valued is practiced. What is not valued is not practiced. -- Plato

    by RobLewis on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:14:52 AM PST

  •  my mom first told me that when I was (1+ / 0-)
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    in elementary school

    she said:  "there are more Ds than Rs and when we all show up, we win."

    "But some of us live in places where it is harder to vote and that can hurt our numerical advantage."

    I was getting this explanation in 1965 after Johnson got his huge congressional majorities

    plus ça change...

    Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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    by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:18:12 AM PST

  •  AND THE WAY YOU GET D'S TO VOTE... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...is to get people energized to vote the whole ballot. Those lower ticket races tend to affect people closest to home. Some candidates might actually live in their city. In Boulder County we publish a Democrat recommended voter guide, making it super easy for voters. We've done it since 2008, it's a targeted list so you aren't wasting your time, and people look forward to them being dropped on their doorstep. It's an easy canvass project.

    There is no Independent Party — in Colorado, we call them unaffiliated's, although they call themselves "independent". But in my personal opinion, they consistently DON'T VOTE. And I've figured out calling yourself an "independent" is a convenient way to blame everyone, not to be involved, and to not actually DO anything — except complain, of course.

  •  EVERY VOTE MATTERS! (0+ / 0-)

    Lynwood Lewis won his election for Virginia State Senator by 11 votes.

    Yes. The recount added 2 votes to his original margin of victory, and he won by ELEVEN VOTES.

    This headline:

    Democrat wins Virginia Senate recount, giving Gov. Terry McAuliffe’s agenda a crucial boost

    COULD have been written this way:
    Lynwood Lewis wins control of the Virginia Senate by 11 votes.

    People see national elections in terms of hundreds of thousands of votes, and they don't see how it would hurt anyone if they just didn't make that effort to vote.

    But state and local elections are ignored by many of those who regularly show up every four years for presidential elections. We desperately need to reach those voters and engage them for all elections, because decisions made at the lower levels of government are more likely to impact your everyday life, especially when the Republican bozos in Congress refuse to do anything worthwhile.

    "I think in America, the opposite of poverty is justice." Bryan Stevenson

    by gfre on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:21:46 AM PST

    •  My reply is further downthread.... (1+ / 0-)
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      If Virginia Dems want a better result, a very elegant answer would be to coordinate the precinct captains for GOTV on election day.  Arlington County is very well organized and has a good model to copy.  Fairfax seems to have it's act together as well.  But outside of that, the counties are a hot mess--even in areas where Democrats are concentrated.  

      Get involved.  You don't have to run for office or even run a campaign, but get involved.  

      Get a group of friends together and organize a candidates' forum.  

  •  Get off message boards and work on turnout (0+ / 0-)

    I have said for the longest and everyone needs to put a big focus on the websites that we have to ensure Democrats turnout in record numbers for  midterm in 2014

  •  Well, I've already started hounding my 27 year (1+ / 0-)
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    old daughter to make sure she gets her registration updated (she moved).  Told her "there are some people I want you to vote for in November".  I'm hoping if I keep after her and get her in the habit of always voting, she will keep it up after I'm gone.  Maybe I should make that a stipulation in my will :)

    “To the world you may be just one person, but to one person you may be the world.”-Brandi Snyder (in memory of my Nick)

    by YellowDogInGA on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:38:08 AM PST

    •  I cast my first ballot while at college in (0+ / 0-)

      Michigan. I voted for Gov. Blanchard and I voted for Dukakis and Bentsen for President.

      I'm glad I didn't have any betting money on that election.

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      by commonmass on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 11:41:22 AM PST

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      •  Well, in actuality, you did, (1+ / 0-)
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        but didn't realize it.

        I'm glad I didn't have any betting money on that election.

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        by bryduck on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 12:20:29 PM PST

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  •  there must be some way that we can motivate (0+ / 0-)

    the Dems. to get to the ballot boxes this November, as maybe we need to treat it like it is a Presidential election somehow. We just cannot afford to let any more clowns ( GOP) in Congress. Period.

  •  Register voters but EDUCATE registered voters. (0+ / 0-)

    Here's the deal.  Two years ago, I was pounding asphalt in Cantor's district on behalf of his opponent, Wayne Powell.  I kept running into REGISTERED DEMOCRATIC VOTERS who didn't know who he was.  Two days before an election is TOO LATE to try and talk someone into voting for someone they don't know!!!!!!

    The precincts were uncoordinated.  There was no down ballot literature available for polling stations.  It was a TRAVESTY.

    And who is running against Cantor this year?  Can someone tell me?  Is this someone (Mr. Powell or otherwise) talking to minority groups and churches?  There are a ton of them.  I walked through apartment buildings where the directory looked like a list of ambassadors to the UN.  Meet with the Indians, the Sri Lankans, the Thai, the Cambodians.  Let them get to know you.  They already hate Cantor, so half your work is done.  Do this now.  Don't wait for November.

    Precinct captains should be meeting now to coordinate candidate forums and down-ballot literature.  Be ready.  Don't do this when everyone's trying to sneak in a late summer vacation.

    Virginia, get your act together or I'm taking my talents to North Carolina, where I know people are organized.

  •  Primary Bad Democrats (0+ / 0-)

    One way to get Democrats to turn out in November is to primary bad Democratic elected officials between now and then. Not only does it give Democrats something useful to vote for in primary season, but it also gives them someone useful to vote for in November, instead of Republican-lite.

    How about DKos focus on primarying bad Democrats starting now? Instead of so many other activities not nearly as important.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 12:28:52 PM PST

  •  Reference to Howard Dean? (0+ / 0-)


    But you don't hear Democrats talking about appealing to southern rednecks with Confederate flags anymore.

    If this is a reference to Howard Dean, what he actually said was

    I intend to talk about race during this election in the South, because the Republicans have been talking about it since 1968 in order to divide us, and I'm going to bring us together, because you know what,white folks in the South who drive pick ups with Confederate flag decals on the back ought to be voting with us and not them because their kids don't have health insurance and their kids need better schools too.
    I really, really wish he had found a less clumsy way to say this, perhaps he could have just stopped after "drive pick ups".  But given the context, it's clear that he's talking about addressing their economic concerns, not pandering to their racism.

    I do think we need to spend some effort going after all of the working class white folks who've been screwed by the 1% and told that it's the liberals and the blahs and the Mexicans taking their money.

  •  Am I actually voting for Democrats when I vote? (0+ / 0-)

    I do and did the right thing. I vote for the Democrat in every election, national and local. But am I actually voting for Democrats? I voted for Obama twice and so far things are much worse for the middle class, workers and the poor and Wall Street and the Banks and Corp America has never in the history of this country done better. For the first time in history under Obama SNAP was cut not once but TWICE! Who voted for those cuts that Obama is going to sign, the Senate Democrats including one that I voted for (never again) Senator Charles Schumer.

    I’m so sick of my only choice being the lesser of two evils for even the lesser of two evils is still evil.

    Maybe more Democrats will come out and vote if we really had someone worth voting for. Most of us know that these days when we vote for the Democrat we are still really getting a Republican or at the very least someone who owes his or her heart and soul to the top 1% not to us.

  •  Democrats are stupid when they don't vote. (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans are stupid when they do.

  •  I hope the president remembers his base ... (0+ / 0-)

    when he considers whether to approve an export pipeline to facilitate the tripling of production of the worst oil in the world for climate change.

    Passive renunciation is not the whole of wisdom.

    by play jurist on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 01:22:01 PM PST

  •  They are not "your" voters if they don't vote. (0+ / 0-)

    The presumption astounds me.

  •  Guaranteedway to energize Democratic voters (0+ / 0-)

    Put an increase in the minimum wage on the ballot in as many states as possible. And while we are at it, energize the youth vote with marijuana legalization on the ballot as well.

  •  Republicans have perfected the art of voter... (0+ / 0-)

    ...De-mobilization. TV may not be effective in mobilizing the base, but it can be very effective in turning voters (particularly young voters) off from voting.

    Henceforth I ask not good fortune. I myself am good fortune. Walt Whitman

    by Sacramento Dem on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 08:56:47 AM PST

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