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This bill is a nightmare, and no court would uphold it. As the millions of travel dollars redirect from Arizona, GOP lawmakers will make mad dashes to repeal. It will be a nationwide spectacle.

Good. Bring it on.

One of the worst things about conservative "i hate everyone" lunacy is that it is incremental. Going after women is bit by bit. "Show your papers' laws. Voter ID. Yada yada.

But this one is different. It actually marshals this BS "religious freedom" smarm to argue that people should have the right to discriminate. It allows Anderson Cooper to ask the obvious question to one of the Arizona lunkheads whether someone could deny service to a divorced person - to which he replied "blah blah blah" making it clear that this was a bill targeted solely at the LGBT community.

I want them to pay the price. I want the world to see these religious kooks and conservative fire-breathers for what they are: Haters who try to hide themselves in the cloth of preserving America.

Go on. Sign it Jan. Please. Give the world the weapons it needs to expose your small-minded, hateful and despicable party for what it is.

Originally posted to Fokozatos siker on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 01:36 PM PST.

Also republished by Your Government at Work.

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  •  The existence of the bill is enough (7+ / 0-)

    to expose their small-minded, hateful and despicable party for what it is. It already passed the AZ legislature. It doesn't need to be signed into law to prove that point.

    Arizonans are standing up and speaking out about this abomination. If they succeed in keeping Brewer from signing it then they've done right by their state by championing fairness and equality.

    In the end economics will rule the day. AZ relies too heavily on tourist dollars and this bill becoming law would see an enormous outcry from the tourism and hospitality industry. As they find themselves crushed under the weight of their own self-righteous stupidity AZ legislators will wish they'd never taken up the mantel of bigotry and hate.

    •  They should have spoken before it was passed... (0+ / 0-)

      and even more, TeaPublicans should have read it (all two and one-one half pages), before voting.

      At least those who now claim they didn't know what it actually said.

      Let it pass.  
      Let the StupidBowl committee threaten to leave.
      Let restaurants stop serving TeaPublican Legislators.

      Then they can re-vote themselves.

      The veto is just a good excuse.  Wingnuts can then campaign on "I voted for it but the governor vetoed it."

      So typically TeaPublican.

      "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty (Chris Christie, Antonin Scalia, or Scotty Walker (pick your favorite) said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

      by Eman on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 01:56:43 PM PST

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    •  I would love to see it happen, then watch the NFL (3+ / 0-)
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      JamieG from Md, SixSixSix, jayden

      pull the Super Bowl again.

      The ads would write themselves for Democrats.

      We don't want our country back, we want our country FORWARD. --Eclectablog

      by Samer on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 03:34:10 PM PST

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      •  I was in favor of MLB taking action... (1+ / 0-)
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        Samer

        After the "Papers Please" law was passed. I know the MLB Player's Association released a strong statement of opposition (Latinos make up a large share of membership), but I was hoping they'd move spring training. I guess the logistics would have been a tremendous challenge.

    •  I love Arizona (1+ / 0-)
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      jayden

      and I hate how people have come to view it.

      I lived in London, New York, and S Florida.  As well as short stints in Portugal, Australia and Spain.

      I came out here about 15 years ago, and ohmigod, it is the most beautiful place on earth.

      I am a cynic, but I feel a connection with the nature I feel all around - nature that is just clinging to life.

      So I moved out here on 2.5 acres about 8 years ago,

      From my front and back decks, I can see wilderness all around.  The road to my house is not paved.  All around me is native plants and animals.  And I see much more than when I lived in concrete jungles.

      I have more nature here in the desert than in the cities.  I watch rabbits, snakes, coyotes, packrats and all other creatures pass by my window daily.  And I marvel at their ability to survive here.

      My husband and I have gone exploring all the aboriginal sites, and we have learned so much from the people who have come before us.

      Here, of all the places I have lived, I feel connected with the earth.

      I am marginally aware that many of my neighbors are only here because they found Boca Raton too liberal.  And I am sad for them.

      And I will work against them.

      But that does not make Arizona bad.  

      It makes the idiots who live here that do not learn from their surroundings bad.

      We will not win by boycotts in the long term.

      We will win by people like me moving out here.

  •  Your point is well-taken. (2+ / 0-)
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    Dave in Northridge, skrekk

    I'd say that the fact that Brewer is still sitting on the fence and acting like there are two sides to the "should we legalize genocide against LGBT?" question is just as bad as signing the bill.

    "One of the boss' hangers-on sometimes comes to call, at times you least expect. Tryin' to bully you, strongarm you, inspire you with fear--it has the opposite effect."--Bob Dylan, "Floater"

    by oldmaestro on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 02:28:37 PM PST

    •  Yes, the "dithering" is unconscionable (1+ / 0-)
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      JamieG from Md

      People's lives hanging in the balance, and the governor is playing too cute by half about whether she'll sign it into law or not.

      I would not be surprised if Gov. Brewer "forgets" to sign or veto the bill and it passes into law without her signature. Weaseliest of all possible weasel worlds.

      •  I wouldn't be surprised, either. (0+ / 0-)

        The Brewer scenario that you describe is the first one that occurred to me, too.  There appears to be more pressure on her today, but I think that's mostly grandstanding.

        "One of the boss' hangers-on sometimes comes to call, at times you least expect. Tryin' to bully you, strongarm you, inspire you with fear--it has the opposite effect."--Bob Dylan, "Floater"

        by oldmaestro on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 06:37:01 PM PST

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    •  This bill is not against LGBT (0+ / 0-)

      it is against gay men, assuredly.  But the bible says nothing about gay women.

      But it DOES say a lot about divorced people.

      Or those that eat shellfish.

      Or those who wear blends.

      This cuts several ways.

      It also protects those of native religion who smoke.  So I can smoke away in my office and piss everyone off, and just say it's part of my religious practice.

      •  Of course. (0+ / 0-)

        On the deepest level (that my mind can comprehend, anyway), this is about a group attempting to force an orthodoxy on a society.  I've been reading Orwell's 1984 again lately, and in "Goldstein's Book" the "author" writes a lot about how the Party's main goal is to protect the orthodoxy by disallowing any deviance from it by any human being.  When these psychos talk about "protecting their religious freedoms," I'm reminded of the slogan "Freedom is Slavery."

        "One of the boss' hangers-on sometimes comes to call, at times you least expect. Tryin' to bully you, strongarm you, inspire you with fear--it has the opposite effect."--Bob Dylan, "Floater"

        by oldmaestro on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 06:47:08 PM PST

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  •  I have to echo this thought (2+ / 0-)
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    Dave in Northridge, sponson

    I keep thinking some state should simply allow itself to become the Republican Dystopia/ Galt Gulch/Biosphere that Tea Partyers dream of.

    I almost hope that some state (Arizona, South Carolina, Texas or any other willing contender) will decide that no environmental or consumer protections are necessary and they decommission every regulatory board, eliminate taxes, require people to own guns, legitimize all discrimination under the guise of "religious freedom", defund public education, privatize every government function they can think of, and then see what happens.

    It won't be pretty.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 02:36:47 PM PST

    •  except unwilling people would still get trapped (0+ / 0-)

      there.
      Jan is just enjoying her last gasp of relevance-- I believe she won't sign it.
      But it's too bad that people have the chance to calculate how mean and stupid they can be before the boycotts and bad press start.

      "People are more than the worst things that they do,"--Chris Hayes

      by chicating on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 05:46:47 PM PST

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  •  Agreed 100% (2+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, skrekk

    Sign it, Jan. We need a court case on this PRONTO.

    •  Bummer for Arizona that they're in the 9th circuit (0+ / 0-)

      and that sexual orientation is now being treated with heightened scrutiny.   This would be an opportunity for SCOTUS to formally adopt that standard too.

    •  Bad test case IMHO (1+ / 0-)
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      Catesby

      because it's distinguishable from Romer. A big factor in Romer was that CO's Amendment 2 singled out one specific class of people not covered by anti-discrimination laws and required them, and nobody else, to fight for the repeal of a Constitutional amendment in order to get such protection, while all other such groups could lobby to get laws protecting themselves through the legislative process, a much easier and less expensive task.

      The AZ bill, on the other hand, leaves all currently-unprotected groups on equal footing, and could be repealed through ordinary legislative means (as opposed to the extraordinary means needed to repeal a Constitutional amendment).

      In fact, I'm not sure anyone could actually show injury from the bill (and therefore have standing to bring a suit) at this time if it became law. AZ's anti-discrimination laws only cover groups that are already protected by Federal law, and the new bill can't override that Federal protection due to the Supremacy Clause. Groups that aren't already protected wouldn't, in any legally relevant sense, become less protected (unlike the situation in Romer).

      So on the face of it, there doesn't appear to be an Equal Protection violation, and therefore the suspect-class designation for GLBT people doesn't come into play. Suspect-class designation only applies to challenges to laws that disproportionately burden the class; it does not confer any protection against discrimination by private actors.

      Unfortunately when smart and educated people get crazy ideas they can come up with plausibly truthy arguments. -- Andrew F Cockburn

      by ebohlman on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 05:10:59 PM PST

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      •  The test case would come (0+ / 0-)

        from liberal companies discriminating against divorced and remarried Christians.

        You bet they will fix the law if they started suffering discrimination.

        •  That discrimination would be a violation of (0+ / 0-)

          Federal law (the Civil Rights Act) and therefore the challenge to the AZ law would be thrown out because the plaintiffs already have access to appropriate redress. Again, the AZ law can't override Federal civil rights laws.

          Unfortunately when smart and educated people get crazy ideas they can come up with plausibly truthy arguments. -- Andrew F Cockburn

          by ebohlman on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 06:30:09 PM PST

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  •  Fokozatos I totally agree. (1+ / 0-)
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    JamieG from Md

    Also the tax payers of a state that supports this type of pre WWII bigotry deserve to have to foot the legal bills for the appeals, and the law suits.

    It never enters the minds of these White pseudo Christians that they might get the same treatment in a business owned by someone of another race, or faith or social outlook.  And if they did their infuriated howls for protection would be heard all the way to the Repub Caucus in DC.

  •  I had the same thought (0+ / 0-)

    but was reluctant to express it. The actual discrimination and damage to individuals in the short run will be minimal in comparison to the damage done to the Republican party if Brewer is stupid enough to sign the bill.

    "It is easier to fool people, than to convince them they've been fooled" - Mark Twain

    by Sarge in Seattle on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 05:25:15 PM PST

  •  I want her to sign it for perverse reasons (0+ / 0-)

    because it upholds the right of anyone to practice their religion in the workplace.

    So anyone who holds to a native religion can smoke in the workplace.

    And I would enjoy putting that to the test.

    Along with discriminating against divorced Christians, or those wearing fiber blends.

  •  How is this law clearly unconstitutional? (0+ / 0-)

    It doesn't expressly single out a class for disparate treatment and the courts generally don't look at a legislature's motive in enacting facially neutral legislation.

    This case seems a lot closer to Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217 (1971) (refusing to enjoin city's closure of public pools in response to desegregation order) than it is to Romer v. Evans, 517 U.S. 620 (1996) (striking down constitutional amendment forbidding municipalities from enacting ordinances that would protect "homosexuals, lesbians, or bisexuals" from discrimination).  And the Palmer Court was a good deal more liberal than the Romer Court.

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