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Now, it don't matter none whether or not you follow @RubenBolling on the Twitters, 'cause that don't do nothing for our Facebook Like-based economy.

But join on up with Tom the Dancing Bug's INNER HIVE right now, or we're heading straight for recession, and the bank's gonna foreclose on the click farm!

Originally posted to Comics on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 06:50 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Ay-up! n/t (4+ / 0-)

    "A famous person once said, 'You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.' But as I once said, "If you don't teach them to read, you can fool them whenever you like." – Max Headroom

    by midnight lurker on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:05:24 AM PST

  •  Land sakes! I think Ma just got out the hospital! (3+ / 0-)
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    occupystephanie, PSzymeczek, BRog

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:08:30 AM PST

  •  WWJD??? WWJD???? (4+ / 0-)

    What would the Joads do????

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:09:11 AM PST

  •  Love it (5+ / 0-)

    Dog gone good social commentary. Great cartoon.

    "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness," Allen Ginsberg

    by Hermenutic on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:11:37 AM PST

  •  Ahh...the future of Capitalism (6+ / 0-)
    that don't do nothing for our Facebook Like-based economy

    My fire extinguisher of choice, is gasoline.

    by JustBeKos on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:12:37 AM PST

  •  Thanks for another reason... (1+ / 0-)
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    occupystephanie

    ...for Uncle Jeff to stay off of Facebook, Reuben!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:17:08 AM PST

  •  NOT ANOTHER BUBBLE... my eyes can't take it! n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Randian Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of West Dakota!"

    by unclebucky on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:19:58 AM PST

  •  Wal-Mart on Steroids? (3+ / 0-)
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    atana, occupystephanie, indres

    The online businesses have the capacity to do to businesses  all over what Wal-Mart  and mall conglomerates have done to Main Street businesses everywhere they set up shop.

    Do you wonder why Main Street looks so bleak, why family businesses which were profitable  for generations have failed leaving empty buildings?

    "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness," Allen Ginsberg

    by Hermenutic on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:22:07 AM PST

  •  I belong to a generation (12+ / 0-)

    That could never quite figure out what Facebook is supposed to be for. I use computers -- I have an MS in computer science! -- but why would I want to be engaged in endless chatter about nothing with 500 astroturf "friends"?
    If I want to talk to someone, email or phone is much more useful -- and you don't have other people listening in.

    I think the evaporation of privacy rights in this country took a quantum leap when Facebook was invented.

    •  Never saw the appeal of Facebook (6+ / 0-)

      You sound an awful lot like me: MS in CompSci, 20-year career working with computers.  I never saw the appeal of Facebook.  To me, joining such a thing just seemed like work.  I'd have to check my feed every day, not because I wanted to, but because if I didn't, it would pile up.  That's pretty much how I feel about email.  (People who need to get in touch with me have learned to send texts.)  Why would I willingly sign up for something like that if I didn't have to?

      I was told about various people I used to know that I'd be able to reconnect with on Facebook, but the way I see it, I lost contact with those folks for a reason.  It would be interesting briefly and then it would get awkward.

      The biggest reason that social media in general doesn't appeal to me is that I'm a very private person.  I don't like to share, especially not to a general audience of the internet.  Hell, when I got married, I only told my closest co-workers.  The rest of the company only found out when they saw the ring.  The idea of posting random pictures from my life is utterly alien to me.

      I've always told myself that I'd join Facebook if I had to, if one or more people whom I needed to communicate with were on the site and that was the only way for me to do it.  Thankfully, that day has never come.

      ------RM

      •  I would invite you to join (1+ / 0-)
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        Rita5018

        my anti-social-media site, Goawayandleavemealone.com, but I have strict membership requirements.  I'm the only one allowed to join.  It's great though.  No updates to check, no pics to like, and best of all, no ads.  

        "The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago. The second best time is now." - Chinese proverb

        by VALuddite on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 03:47:24 PM PST

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      •  I joined Facebook (0+ / 0-)

        mostly for the OpenID convenience. I have over 800 "friends" - and I look at my feed once or twice a week, when I'm bored. For the most part, Facebook exists in the background of my life. I ignore it, and, mostly, it ignores me.

        •  Oh, and... (0+ / 0-)

          I just checked, it's 650, not 800, and almost none of those are astroturf... almost all of them are people I've connected with outside FB. I teach, and I do let students and residents connect with me (networking is seldom bad), so that's years and years of that. Plus all the nurses and other doctors, plus college and high school and family connections...

          (I did have ~300 astroturf connections through an iPhone game I was playing, but I quit the game and deleted all those "friends" last week.)

    •  I actually use FB for political purposes (7+ / 0-)

      Through FB, I am able to keep up with events with several different organizations I follow.I'm an admin for a news page for Occupy.  I further my own MoveOn petitions via a page for them. And I stay in touch with those in my state and around the world who identify as Occupy.

      Using FB and an Occupy identity, I am able to organize with others on matters of concern. For instance, my recent diary Bayer Does Face Plant describes a protest of the Bayer Bee Care Tour. On FB, I am able to alert Occupys on the next tour stop. They kind of snuck into town here and we only had less than 24 hours notice.

      So, though I would rather have something else, I will use whatever tools I have to organize.

      We have it within our power to make the world over again ~ Thomas Paine

      by occupystephanie on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:23:21 AM PST

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      •  Husband uses FB (4+ / 0-)

        for organizing promoting his band/ music. He chats and shares online with musicians all over the world. His band's tunes got played on Swedish radio via the net. So it does have a purpose for organizing online communities be they political or art. Social media usage works if your not just harvesting likes or 'friends' and instead are using it to work your analog and digital community. He's very careful what he puts on FB and works it selectively.    

        I don't do FB cause I really don't like Zuck and his ilk. 9bn. for Whatsapp. all to stop the bleed of young'uns who don't want mom and dad looking at their online carrying on's. Too bad that there is no decent alternative to FB. or any of the giant internet companies that provide the flowing stream of global communication.        

      •  Well, I do like that use of FB (2+ / 0-)
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        occupystephanie, isabelle hayes

        but of course it's vulnerable in many ways, and I certainly don't see FB evolving in directions to make things safer for Occupiers.

        But there are people working on new secure protocols that must give governments and the NSA nightmares. If we could have social media based on those, it could give us another decade or two of freedom before TBTB figured out ways to compromise it.

    •  How will you ever know (0+ / 0-)

      if your parents like you if you don't have bookface?

    •  So don't use it like that (0+ / 0-)

      I lost touch with a lot of my friends after college.  FB has reconnected me with them, big time.  I don't have 500 astroturfed friends; the ~100 people on my list are all legit.  And by keeping the list to people I actually know, it means the chatter isn't endless.

      FB is what you make of it.  It's okay not to want to make anything of it, but there are many ways to use it, and it looks silly when you say you don't use it because one of those ways doesn't suit you.

    •  I have a fake name and persona on FB (0+ / 0-)

      because I have a retail store and wanted to claim the FB page for it, but FB would not allow me to do that unless I'd already joined FB.  FB creates thousands of un-owned website FB pages for tons of businesses, you just have to go in and find your business and claim your page, which will mean you can then upload photos and add information and post to it...  they check you out to make sure you're the real owner (they called the store) and then you are allowed to "own" and post to your store's page.

      Sounds crazy yet it is true.  So my store has its own FB page, we post info about sales and such on it, and my cat runs it (which is to say, I used my cat's name when I created my own FB identity.)

    •  OMG (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      enufenuf

      Oh my... I thought I was the only one!  I'm a 41 yr old married mom of 2 kids who also happens to have a BS in Computer Information Sciences and have been freelancing as a computer consultant in my rural-ish area for over 20 years.  

      I don't like Facebook.  Its visually chaotic with little to no obvious way of organizing what's posted.  If I want someone to know something about my life, I'll send them an email or call them on the phone.  If its a bunch of someones, fine... that's why gmail lets you put more than one address on an email. :)

      I don't like Twitter or other similar services.  I am far too wordy to keep my comments to 255 characters!

      I have a cell phone that I can text on, but I hate texting.  Keyboard is far too tiny and I figure by the time I actually get done pecking at those miniscule keys I could have just said the same thing faster by calling the person in the first place.  Touch screens hate my fingers... no idea why but every time I try to use one its a bad experience.  My husband always asks me why my phone is never on.  I tell him "my cell is for my convenience, not yours or anyone else's"  :D

      Speaking of the husband, he's the techno-geek of the family.  He loves Facebook and uses it all the time.  He's got an Android phone that never leaves his side and zooms through touch screens like a speeding bullet.

      We both understand the technology of today's world, how it works, what its potential benefits are and what risks people take in using it.  In our business as computer consultants, we have to.  We just have incredibly divergent views on what we personally like to use in our daily lives.

      And get this... we were both born in 1972.  He's actually 5 months, 5 days older than I am.   Its not generational for us... just a matter of personality I guess.

    •  Privacy? Who wants privacy! (0+ / 0-)

      I completely agree. I'm in IT (desktop support) as well, and a former manager suggested I join FB to keep in touch with former coworkers. I joined, and have family who post a lot. I avoid FB, because not only am I a private person of a certain demographic who doesn't feel the need to "share," but also because I feel it's a poorly designed site (cluttered, somewhat hard to navigate, just kind of ugly). It's also always telling me I have notifications, and when I go there, there aren't any. Once in a while I'll "like" someone's post, or tell someone "happy birthday," but that's about it. I feel FB is a huge timesuck.

  •  I liked this and posted it to facebook. Do (10+ / 0-)

    I get a rutabaga?

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:29:23 AM PST

    •  No, but 30 new people you don't know personally (2+ / 0-)
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      global citizen, atana

      ...have just liked you on FB. Better than a rutabaga any day!

      What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

      by TerryDarc on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 09:12:39 AM PST

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  •  Heh. I just did my Facebook account delete (5+ / 0-)
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    atana, DRo, shaharazade, indres, dicentra

    Notice this morning.  Mostly because of Facebook's politics.  Synchronicity.

    Hard to have a government when one-third of your representatives are insane and the other two-thirds have been sold to the highest bidder.

    by Rikon Snow on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:30:35 AM PST

    •  I would love to delete my FB account (4+ / 0-)

      But there are a couple of people I know who live on FB and it is the only reliable way to get in touch with them. If I delete my account, I know any phone or email contact info for them would get out of date pretty quickly, and then I wouldn't know how to get in touch with them. So I leave the account there, but never use it.

      •  I am one of those weirdos (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        atana, dicentra

        who's never had a Facebook account, and never will due to my concerns about privacy.

        It's a shame, because I practically live on the Internet (I've inordinately loved it since I first came in contact with it my freshman year in college, where I used Lynx for crying out loud).  People tell me I'm not missing much for not being on FB, but I'm not sure if I believe them.  Oh well, can't be helped.

        The lack of FB is why I no longer frequent Huffington Post.

        •  you're not missing much (0+ / 0-)

          I left a Facebook about a year ago because I just found it all a bit creepy.  The only time I miss it is when I can't comment somewhere on the 'net for lack of a FB account.   I don't go to HuffPost so much anymore either.   I think there was a move of a lot of people to DKos when HuffPost changed their posting policy.

        •  I don't think it's weird at all. (0+ / 0-)

          Not just privacy, but FB tends to take liberties with what would be considered "intellectual property" in other contexts. All your content are belong to us.  I've never signed up either, and never will.  If I haven't talked to you since high school, there's probably a reason.

          I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

          by mojo11 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:53:16 AM PST

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      •  I have mine set to private (0+ / 0-)

        and only use it for sites that require Facebook logins for making comments (mainly the ESPN comment boards). It's definitely reduced the amount of scrolling spam that made it hard to keep up with game day threads, but it's also reduced a lot of the conversation -- it's harder to have actual discussions during the games because of the interface. Much of my actual game time discussions have gone to Twitter, where you can target the discussion by using hashtags.

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 01:19:56 PM PST

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        •  et tu ESPN? (0+ / 0-)

          Odd, I noticed this morning that NHL.com had gone exclusively to the FB plugin.  Very disappointing.  But what was telling was that there were only 57 comments on a recap of the Canadiens-Penguins game last night.  That's roughly 10% of the comments that a game between those two teams could be expected to generate on a normal day, but this is right after the Olympic break with fans of both teams suffering withdrawal form the NHL.  And a good many of the comments there were fell in the "I have to log in with FB?  WTF?" category rather than any discussion of the actual game.

          You always COULD use the FB plugin to comment at NHL.com, but now they've turned over control of the discourse exclusively to FB.  But I guess they won't miss my keen analysis and pithy commentary enough to reverse that decision.

          I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

          by mojo11 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:59:12 AM PST

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    •  You will find (0+ / 0-)

      that once you create a FB account, it's impossible to ever really get rid of.

  •  But I really do like him! (4+ / 0-)
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    shaharazade, TerryDarc, BRog, asterkitty

    I live under the bridge to the 21st Century.

    by Crashing Vor on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:40:39 AM PST

  •  I've often thought Kos should open up a (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mightymouse, shaharazade, asterkitty

    Mojo Store online, where we could actually redeem our Mojo for gifts and prizes, or campaign donations to our favorite candidate. Kind of a progressive version of Green Stamps.

    "You can never sink so low in life that you can't be a bad example for somebody." - my dad

    by briefer on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:46:12 AM PST

  •  I thought Facebook (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    FindingMyVoice, indres, VALuddite

    was just a place for my in-laws to post stupid right wing talking points?

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 07:46:38 AM PST

    •  You could always defriend them (0+ / 0-)

      sometimes friends need to be weeded out and in laws aren't supposed to necessarily be your friends. We have a few friends who are in laws but most of them are just acquired relatives gathered by coincidence. The only time I mess with them is at Christmas or weddings etc. No need to have them dogging your social life with their nastiness.

      •  Mr. Rogers (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        shaharazade

        What would he think about all the be-friending and de-friending nonsense? Harrumph!

        What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

        by TerryDarc on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 09:14:47 AM PST

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    •  FB has been quite useful to see who has been (0+ / 0-)

      putting on a good face as a decent human being all these years, and who's a nutcase.  They may be able to hold it together for the occasional family visit, but they'll unleash the crazy on FB.  They just can't keep it in, they'll post something about FEMA camps or where's the birth certificate, and then you know.

  •  Awesome and true (7+ / 0-)

    Social networking is a bubble, and a way to acclimate us to zero privacy.

    I left Facebook -- which was hard because a lot of people I do really care about and who live far from me stayed in touch there -- about 6 months ago, and have no intention of returning.  I won't use  G+ or Twitter or any of the other social media platforms either.  I think their evangelists vastly oversell their democratizing potential, and vastly underestimate the role they play in piping corporate ruling class ideology into peoples' brains, while sucking any productivity or privacy they had left up into the maw of commerce.

    The internet is not the world.  For many of us who are here, we need to face the fact that we are somewhat addicted and easily seduced into thinking what happens online is what happens in the world.  Most politics still has to happen face to face to be effective. And the most oppressed among us often continue to be oppressed across the digital divide.

    I'm increasingly resistant to answering all my email even.  It was liberating to quit the social media hysteria, though, as a first step.

    •  The money quote (2+ / 0-)
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      DRo, isabelle hayes
      I think their evangelists vastly oversell their democratizing potential, and vastly underestimate the role they play in piping corporate ruling class ideology into peoples' brains, while sucking any productivity or privacy they had left up into the maw of commerce.
      That's why I am surprised by the somewhat blasé attitude by many here, including the site owner, regarding suggestions that the oligarchy might actually be attempting to control the message. I will agree that it certainly isn't a new concept, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a very healthy skepticism about the media, including the internet.

      A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

      by slatsg on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:31:56 AM PST

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    •  They won. They held your friends hostage as (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      atana, Sharon Wraight, xanjabu

      blackmail for using their system. You had your choice keep your friends by playing the game or lose your friends.

      It is easier for some to lose that game. Some people move every 3 years. They have friends and family in all 50 states. They want to 'talk over the back fence' to these people. To keep up with the mundane life's stories. To maintain friendships.

      In order to do that, you have to play the game or be isolated. The younger people are the more vulnerable they are to this blackmail. Losing this game means suicide to many of them.

      Now they have the 2nd (safety net for sloppy) Amendment, and can't be infringed to actually treat their gun like a gun and not a video game controller.

      by 88kathy on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 09:51:46 AM PST

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  •  Dot-Com Bubble 2.0 (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DRo, ssgbryan

    It's not just Facebook (although this cartoon is spot on).
    Twitter is another bubble. So is the Bitcoin industry.
      In fact, many of the best performing stocks over the past year are ones that have never made a profit.

      This echo bubble might be slightly different, but it rhymes.

     I've been thinking about doing a diary about it.

    None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. -Johann von Goethe

    by gjohnsit on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:05:08 AM PST

    •  I would be careful lumping Bitcoin with those (0+ / 0-)

      other two: FB and Twitter. I would also be careful about lumping FB with Twitter. Why not throw text msging in with all that while you're taking a broad brush to the things that powered Arab Spring and are doubtless at work in Ukraine right now.

      Just because YOU do not use them (and there's probably no reason you should) does not mean they are worthless, although Bitcoin is more than I can fathom.

      What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

      by TerryDarc on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 09:27:24 AM PST

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      •  It's a lot harder for message control (0+ / 0-)

        on Twitter, because you choose who to follow and who to not follow. Yes, there are the "promoted" Tweets from assorted corporate sources that show up on the feed on the Web interface (pisses me off that I've been getting NFL combine reports when trying to follow SF Giants news), but those don't show up on independent Twitter clients especially on mobile systems (I'm a fan of Tweetbot for iOS) so they're relatively easy to avoid. I've been able to follow a lot of sources that I would have to spend hours on the computer to keep up with, and have gathered quite a few diary inspirations as well.

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 01:27:47 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Must-see video on this topic (8+ / 0-)

    If you want to know more about the subject of this cartoon, you should watch this:

    Veritasium: Facebook Fraud

    It's 9 minutes long and very informative.  The basic gist is that click farms in south and southeast Asia are rendering any payment to Facebook for post promotion utterly worthless.  The video explains the problem in a very easy-to-understand form.  Facebook needs to get a handle on this, or their entire ad business will collapse.

    ------RM

  •  Hey, none of them clicks are GMO clicks, are they? (6+ / 0-)

    We have it within our power to make the world over again ~ Thomas Paine

    by occupystephanie on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:09:53 AM PST

  •  Greatest problem of our time for the 1%: (6+ / 0-)

    Figure out how to harvest money from people using new media, while simultaneously disempowering them from doing anything like the Arab Spring or Occupy.

  •  I used to feel bad about not posting (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    88kathy, atana

    on FB, but now I'm glad I have not. If I want to touch base with someone in FB, I just message them one to one. No snooping or wasting someone else's time.

    What pisses me off is the ads showing up as user posts and stating it is sponsored by some unknown poster. I would un-friend that "friend" in the blink of an eye if I could figure out who it was.

    AS if an ad "supported" by an anonymous "freind" is any different than any other outbound blanket marketing scheme!

    Zuckerturd better buy up any other social media that he can while he can because he's poisoning the well at FB.

    Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely - Lord Acton

    by Shishkabugs on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:19:51 AM PST

  •  Facebook could be successful in the same vein (2+ / 0-)
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    atana, Sharon Wraight

    as the Tupperware party perfected buying under social gathering pressure and Amway perfected the MLM. Facebook could be way bigger.

    But it won't. Why?

    Because Facebook is not reliable or stable. You can't figure out their security from one minute to the next. How many people want to live in a house where the windows can be locked but not the doors.

    I know from experience an acquaintance on face book can easily establish many identities. That acquaintance has access to all your friends and family. That acquaintance can blackmail you into doing what they want by attacking your friends and family.

    Once a person has multiple identities they can contact you any time they want to and you can't stop them. They activate/de-activate accounts. You can't block a de-activated account.

    So with all this going on where there is no money involved, how safe do you feel spending money on Facebook.

    Yeah Right --- as they say.

    Now they have the 2nd (safety net for sloppy) Amendment, and can't be infringed to actually treat their gun like a gun and not a video game controller.

    by 88kathy on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:39:53 AM PST

    •  There is *no* security on FB (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      88kathy, ssgbryan

      Anything you write there belongs to Mark Zuckerman. He may give you promises about how he will use it, but he can change those promises any time he likes -- or be compelled to ignore them by secret court orders.

      •  Zucker*berg* (0+ / 0-)

        I knew a Zuckerman once, and I always do that :-(

      •  I know and it is very evident when it is (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        atana, Sharon Wraight

        experienced on the micro level. Unexpected results abound.

        Since my family has been going through this attack I have learned more about Facebook than I ever thought possible. Menus change from day to day. The whole mess is UNEXPECTED RESULTS and no rules.

        Now they want me to spend money. YAY. I always spend money when experiencing unexpected results.

        Like my bank. I love unexpected results. I love it when I can't tell who the tellers are, if the bank is being robbed, who is looking over my shoulder to attack my balance when I look away, giving access to all my friends and families accounts to anyone who happens to have hitched a ride with me. It makes me feel so at home and generous.

        Now they have the 2nd (safety net for sloppy) Amendment, and can't be infringed to actually treat their gun like a gun and not a video game controller.

        by 88kathy on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 09:33:39 AM PST

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  •  I'd like to see an amendment to ... (0+ / 0-)

    The Constitution protecting the rights of citizens of Facebook to freely click their 'like' buttons without living in fear of some jack booted Facebook thug executive monetizing their every action.

    Equal Rights, not Equal Wrongs.


    Who told the Greeks they were any good at making yogurt?

    by glb3 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 09:18:39 AM PST

  •  If those click farms get big enough (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    BRog, ssgbryan, peptabysmal

    do they receive government subsidies under the Farm bill?  What about price supports and crop insurance?

  •  Am I missing (0+ / 0-)

    something here?

    Don't quite get it.

    "The only person sure of himself is the man who wishes to leave things as they are, and he dreams of an impossibility" -George M. Wrong.

    by statsone on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 11:44:04 AM PST

  •  From the Kos Songbook: (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    xanjabu

    Working on the Click Farm
    Lyrics by Admiralnaismith
    May be sung to; "Working on the Highway", by Bruce Springsteen

    Monday night, you're surfing, and you're gonna point and click
    It's gonna blow your mind, about that simple little trick
    Please share to show affection for your mother or your cat
    And you never will believe the thing that happens after that!

    See, to make a site look popular, the owner will employ
    A hundred thousand of us in a factory in Hanoi
    He gives a lot of money to a greasy millionaire
    I get a dollar every time a thousand people like and share!
    And I'm working on the click farm, go to work and stay late
    Working on the click farm, hard at work to up-rate
    Working on the click farm, cranking out the click-bait
    Working on the click farm, working on the click farm!

    That blogger selling advertising, acts like she's the bomb
    It's funny, all her fans have ISPs in Vietnam
    But I take comfort as I rub the carpal tunnel from my hands
    To know there really aren't so many Justin Bieber fans!
    And I'm working on the click farm, go to work and stay late
    Working on the click farm, hard at work to up-rate
    Working on the click farm, cranking out the click-bait
    Working on the click farm, working on the click farm!

        Well, there ain't no windows and there ain't no breaks
        I hunch over the mouse until my eyes hurt and my back aches
        The sites we have to follow, they would make your hair curl
        I need to tell someone about our cruel, cruel world!

    I sent a secret email in a tone of supplication
    To a member of a humanitarian foundation
    The activist made a promise to me on that day
    And he organized their network and said help was on the way!

    They put a website up to tell the world about our plights...

    ...but no one's gonna see it, till it gets a lot of likes!
    So I'm working on the click farm, go to work and stay late
    Working on the click farm, hard at work to up-rate
    Working on the click farm, cranking out the click-bait
    Working on the click farm, working on the click farm!

    (Repeat Chorus)

    "It was all a mistake! I'm dieting and I told my staff to close the FRIDGE!" --attributed to Governor Christie

    by AdmiralNaismith on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 12:36:24 PM PST

  •  i recc'd (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    meinoregon

    even though (gasp) i've never even looked at facebook

    i gather this forum for ordinary internet folk to get together, is sifting them all for the spare change in their pockets

    my guess is that most users, like most worker-middleclass americans, could care less if they're being managed, as long as it gets them distracted from their worries

  •  an instant classic! (0+ / 0-)

    pure gee nyuks!

  •  I am one of the 6.5 billion people* (0+ / 0-)

    who are still not on Facebook.  I can be plastered by ads on every website I visit just fine without having to kneel before Emperor Zuck.

    *give or take a few million

    I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

    by mojo11 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:39:10 AM PST

  •  They're not real likes ... (0+ / 0-)

    They're DEAD SOULS!

    (Google "Gogol" for more information.)

    (I always wanted to say something like that!)

  •  I used facebook for playing a few games… (0+ / 0-)

    Then I saw an ad for a brand new Les Paul guitar at a price I could afford.  Thanks to that ad, I never even check my facebook, the time I would have spent there, I now spend learning guitar at the ripe old age of 51.  Thank you facebook, if it wasn't for you, I'd still be spending countless hours wasting my time there!

    I'm damaged and I like it, it made me what I am! BTW, my avatar is as stollen as my father's retirement fund, the old man died almost penniless. Bankers don't go to prison for breaking our laws, they buy bigger yachts.

    by Damaged262 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 03:07:26 PM PST

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