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John Nichols reports today at nation.com that Bernie Sanders "is prepared to run for president of the United States." It is not an announcement of his candidacy, but rather an interview with the Independent Senator from Vermont.

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I don't believe that I am the only person out there who can fight this fight, but I am certainly prepared to look seriously at that race.

Q. When you say you are "prepared to run," that can be read in two ways. One is to say you have the credentials, the prominence, the following to seek the office. The other is to say that you are making preparations for a run. How do you parse that?

A. If the question is, am I actively right now organizing and raising money and so forth for a campaign for president, I am not doing that. On the other hand, am I talking to people around the country? Yes, I am. Will I be doing some traveling around the country? Yes, I will be. But I think it's premature to be talking about (the specifics of) a campaign when we still have a 2014 congressional race in front of us.

There is an extended Q&A at the link, wherein Sanders explains.

This isn't news, but there are a lot of folks here who might support Sanders in a presidential bid, especially due to his views on the financial crisis of 2008 (to present).

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  •  This could be a great way to shift the discussion (12+ / 0-)

    back towards the center. I'm afraid the 2016 elections are going to degenerate to how right can we go.

    I doubt he would win the Democratic Primary, but I'd vote for him.

    Sanders, Warren, and Dean are three of my favorite politicians. We need more like him.

    He has real integrity, intelligence, and courage.

    "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

    by HoundDog on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 10:38:17 AM PST

  •  If he runs as a Democrat (8+ / 0-)

    I would likely support him over Hillary.

    However, if he runs as a Naderite, no go for me.

    In the Q&A, while he doesn't directly answer the question, he seems to realize the consequences.

    KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

    by fcvaguy on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 10:40:48 AM PST

    •  Riiiight. (2+ / 0-)
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      Because the two-party system MUST be preserved at all costs.

      (Are there facepalm smilies on this site?)

      •  I accept that I'm insuffuciently pure (4+ / 0-)

        but I think my position is a reasonable one given that I'm posting on a blog dedicated to more and better Democrats. If Sanders runs as a democrat, I will support him (unless O'Malley runs in which case it will be a tough choice).

        Sorry thats not good enough for you. And I refuse to have to defend the fact that I'm a Democrat on this blog. So, have fun facepalming.

        KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

        by fcvaguy on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 10:58:48 AM PST

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        •  You DO realize that advocating for poltical (3+ / 0-)
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          parties these days is akin to being for the Mets or the Yankees, right? It's worthless since we're being screwn by both parties.

          I know it makes your life nice and neat to fall in line under the big D but you are part of the problem. The longer we cling to the evil of two lessers, the longer we are left with the never-ending shit sandwiches.

        •  Don't you think (4+ / 0-)
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          that the vast majority of people asking for restraint would love to live in a country where it is possible for a Bernie Sanders to get elected president. But political reality is political reality and he isn't going to get elected and a third party candidacy at this time can only lead to a disastrous Supreme Court and the havoc it can create as it enables the right wing to do all it's mischief.

          Look at Nader in 2000. His candidacy was the definition of counter productive. If he had dropped out of Florida prior to the election we would not have had either Roberts or Alito appointed to SCOTUS and we wouldn't have had Citizen's United. Do you think that the Green's agenda was advanced more under a Bush presidency than it would have been under Gore? Unless we change to a Parliamentary system third parties are counter-productive. The problem is an apathetic and disengaged populace sitting at the middle of the political divide. That's reality, and by splintering off on the left the only effect is to give the election to the most retrograde people on the political spectrum.

          I am way old. I went to an all white school and remember  white only drinking fountains. I remember having to sneak a copy of Lady Chatterly's lover because it was outlawed. I remember when it was open season on gays. I could go on, but the point is that progress is being made. Of course it is slower that any of us would like, but given the mindset of the electorate we have little choice unless you are thinking of either violent revolution or an Arab Spring type of uprising. But neither of those are going to happen. People are too comfortable for those to succeed. Electoral politics is all we have and it is an untidy business where fanatical purity is almost always counter productive.

          The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

          by Pirogue on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 12:02:47 PM PST

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          •  Got nothing to do with fanatical purity (1+ / 0-)
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            It's got to do with not spending my Social Security and Medicare on war.  

            I know where Sanders stands on Social Security and Medicare.

            I don't have a clue where Hillary Clinton stands on either.  Are cuts on her table?  When is she going to tell us?  

            If the Democratic Party doesn't want me voting for Sanders or any other alternative they better make their own positions on these issues as totally clear as Bernie makes his.  

            Don't blame me if they don't.  This is supposed to be a democracy not a monarchy and I'll vote as if it still is.

            •  And if we wind up (1+ / 0-)
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              with a President who is beholden to the Tea Party then ask yourself if you think you would be better off.

              This simple reality that you guys don't seem to want to confront is that we live in a country populated by an electorate that has an apathetic, ill-informed group of voters in the middle of the spectrum who ultimately are the ones who decide the elections. As long as this is the case voting for a third party candidate is going to deliver the presidency to the conservatives at a pivotal time in history. Because of changing demographics the Republicans are on the ropes and understand that their time is limited. They have mounted a desperate campaign to corruptly influence both public opinion and the electoral process. The only way they can succeed is if the Supreme Court turns a blind eye and enables their efforts at voter suppression, corrupt campaign financing, using the gerrymander, weakening education, expanding the privatization industry, etc. They need only one more appointment and they will be in a position to change the law in ways that may take generations to undo.

              The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

              by Pirogue on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:39:29 PM PST

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      •  Well how else will we get a bipartisan bargain (0+ / 0-)

        to destroy what's left of the New Deal?  

        •  what's the alternative? (0+ / 0-)

          a third party?

          KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

          by fcvaguy on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:05:54 AM PST

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          •  One alternative is sending a message loud enough (2+ / 0-)
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            to scare them out of it.  

            Third party is fine with me if my only choice is a hawk who is on board for gutting entitlements.

            I assume Sanders would not run if he felt there was any hope whatever of progressives having any influence on the party before 2024 at the earliest.

            I mean what are we hearing already? SFTU and start polishing the Crown.  Wait for your marching orders.  Your position on the issues will be delivered with your marching orders.  We don't want to hear from you, we will tell you where to stand when you salute, bow and curtsy.

          •  heh, keep trying... (0+ / 0-)

            "But I do apologize, JVolvo, for you are arbiter of all that can and cannot be discussed and I bow down to your supremacy when it comes to what can be written on this website." WinSmith 1/22/2014 - "OK" JVolvo 1/23/2014 (sorry, Clive)

            by JVolvo on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 02:57:13 PM PST

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      •  Because (6+ / 0-)

        a third party candidate puts the country in greater jeopardy of having a Supreme Court vacancy filled by another Scalia-Thomas-Roberts-Alioto. Such an outcome would allow the Republicans to go full bore on their whole agenda of voter suppression, empowerment of the rich, facilitation of corporatism, degrading of public education, giving preference to theocratic ideals, allowing big money to purchase elections, diminishing the rights and voice of workers. And these are only the enabling part of their agenda that can send us spiraling into a right-wing nightmare of a state because they denude us of the power to oppose them.

        We should also consider current issues like reproductive choice, gender rights, equal opportunity, public accommodation, environmental protections, etc.

        It is not meant personally if I paraphrase James Carville and say, "It's the Supreme Court, Stupid".

        The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

        by Pirogue on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:15:39 AM PST

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        •  Oh, and I forgot (2+ / 0-)
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          enabling privatization which is a biggie when it comes to perpetuating the attack on progressive values.

          The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

          by Pirogue on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:23:14 AM PST

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        •  interesting, what the president does in office (0+ / 0-)

          is dwarfed by the Supreme Court nomination potential, the defining issue is who they would put on the Court. An oligarchy, as Jefferson warned after Marbury v. Madison, government by judiciary. Elections are already futile except for candidates promising to attack the Court's usurped jurisdiction.

        •  There are couple of others who could (0+ / 0-)

          accept responsibility. There are two liberal judges in their seventies who could resign so that President Obama could name their replacements. I believe that Justice Ginsburg is 79 and in poor health. Why wait and take a chance.

          The argument against Sanders is that he spoil Mrs. Clinton's chances of winning, which of course assuming that she will win without Sanders in the race. I wouldn't bet the house on that assumption. In fact I see the odds against Clinton being elected regardless of whether or not there is a third party candidate.

          A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

          by slatsg on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 04:40:06 PM PST

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          •  I absolutely agree with (1+ / 0-)
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            you about the liberal judges. I think we should mount a campaign to get them to do just that, but even if they do you have Kennedy in the middle who might retire or become incapacitated at any time. Shit happens, something could happen to any of the Justices. The point is that there is a good chance the next president will be in a position to make a radical determination regarding the direction of the Court. I beg you to consider what will happen if a Tea Party beholden President is in power then.

            It has been several generations since the Warren Court shook things up in a major way. The Neo-Cons want nothing more than to reverse the trend and God knows what we might see if they get a majority on the court. There is no doubt we are teetering on the brink. They need one more position to gain an unquestioned majority.

            The argument against Sanders is not an argument against his vision, it is an argument against a third party candidacy and how it could easily result in a Supreme Court that enables the Neo-Cons agenda to send the country on a bleak course it might take several more generations to correct. If you don't think the Supreme Court is a primary concern when it comes to presidential politics then perhaps you think everyone is over reacting to the Citizens United decision and have greatly overestimated the damage is is doing to society.

            The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

            by Pirogue on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:12:12 PM PST

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      •  In a first-past-the-post system, (2+ / 0-)
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        without ranked preference or instant runoff or a parliamentary government,

        There are probably good ways to reform the electoral system so third parties are more viable, but at the end of the day, they'd still be part of coalitions and more relevantly, in a world where one person and one person only is elected President, third party runs are at best futile, and at worst counterproductive.  Obviously, we can imagine a scenario in which "Democratic Socialist" is one of the two main parties, but that's still within the two-party paradigm and if we get to that point, it means so many problems will have been solved a Sanders run wouldn't be necessary.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:28:27 AM PST

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      •  You write that as if... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...the two-party system is somehow up for negotiation in the present American political environment, such that people actually have to make an effort to "preserve" it.

        That is quite simply not the case. Given the governmental and political structures that exist in this country, in terms of national politics the two-party system is, for better or worse, a reality, and will continue to be so long as that system continues to exist in something resembling its present form.

        Those who labor under the fantasy that the two-party nature of our present national political system is negotiable aren't "threatening" anything that needs "preserving." At best, they're spitting into the wind; at worst, they could actively hurt the one party out of the two that is closer to their values.

        Only one of those outcomes is bad for the country, but the fact that those are the only two possible outcomes is a signal that the idea that the two-party system in current US national politics is somehow up for negotiation does not deserve to be taken seriously.

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 12:52:48 PM PST

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    •  I don't see him pulling a Nader (0+ / 0-)

      Nader was (and still is) all about Nader. Bernie really cares for the country.

      And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

      by Pale Jenova on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 09:03:20 PM PST

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  •  I'd work IL for him (3+ / 0-)
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    In a heartbeat!

    ~Arianna_Editrix-- I willingly accept Cassandra’s fate, To speak the truth, altho’ believ’d too late

    by Arianna Editrix on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 10:46:33 AM PST

  •  Hey, what's the deal with the rate of tips and rec (5+ / 0-)
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    this afternoon?  It's been deader than late Friday night for the last four hours.

    Is there a superbowl, a war, a DK convention, or some big thing I wasn't told about? Why am I always the last to know.

    I have a couple of articles to post but I don't want to waste "bait" if no fish are biting.

    Maybe this is like one of those Sci Fi movies, where aliens have hypnotized the whole town, and we're the first to notice anything is wierd?  

    Hello, is anybody out there?

    Please check in and rec or tip something just so we know you are okay.

    "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

    by HoundDog on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:05:20 AM PST

  •  *sigh* Turn out the lights... (1+ / 0-)
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    Ted Cruz president? Pardon my Vietnamese, but Ngo Pho King Way.

    by ZedMont on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:12:02 AM PST

  •  Unless he plans to contest the Dem primary... (5+ / 0-)

    ...this is a non-starter.  He risks splitting the left with the Dem nominee and greatly increases the chances for a Republican President.

    •  Against Andrew Cuomo? (0+ / 0-)

      He would split the left 99/01. The 01 would consist of a few pearl clutchers and corporatists who are probably more afraid of Bernie Sanders presidency than a Republican one.

      But against Hillary, you are absolutely correct. But Bernie is smart and he knows that.

      And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

      by Pale Jenova on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 09:05:16 PM PST

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  •  I'd vote for Sanders even if he ran as a (3+ / 0-)
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    Republican. No doubt about it.

    “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

    by 420 forever on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:39:02 AM PST

    •  A Thaddeus Stevens Republican (0+ / 0-)

      I'd switch to Republican in order to vote for him!

      And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

      by Pale Jenova on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 09:05:51 PM PST

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  •  I petitioned him to run in 2012. (6+ / 0-)

    Even set up a website and thousands of people signed the petition.

    Although he decided not to run then, I'm glad to hear he's considering running in 2016.

    The most serious problem in American politics today is that people with wrong ideas are uncompromising, and people with good ideas are submissive and unwilling to fight. Change that, and we might have a real democracy again.

    by Eric Stetson on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:45:43 AM PST

  •  I'm prepared to vote for him (2+ / 0-)
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    Why in God's name would I want to vote for Hillary? The company she keeps, the people who pay her bills and the policy she espouses are all conspiring to subjugate the rest of us.

    Hell yes, someone at least in the vicinity of the Left needs to run. If it costs her votes, that's great because maybe the Democrats will pull back from its corporatist, oligarchial, fascist-lite move rightward.

    I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

    by pajoly on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 12:37:06 PM PST

    •  I don't think Hillary and Bill are concerned about (0+ / 0-)

      paying their bills. They have a net worth of more than $100 million.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 01:39:03 PM PST

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      •  Thanks for making my point (0+ / 0-)

        Where do you think those millions came from?

        Sweetheart investments and speeches to bankers and oligarchs.

        I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

        by pajoly on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 02:11:35 PM PST

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        •  Nearly all on Bill's side as Hillary was in the (1+ / 0-)
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          Senate and then Sec of State. Hillary is just now on the speaking circuit and raking in the coin.

          Ben Bernacke, joined the gravy train scoring $250,000 for one event in Abu Dhabi. Beats working for the Fed or being a college prof.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 04:34:17 PM PST

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