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This ad will sound awfully familiar to you, if you've been following the saga of debunked Obamacare ads. This isn't from the Koch brothers, for once, at least not directly. It's from the Republican Governors Association. The RGA says this about the ad: "Gregg Hughes, a South Carolina small business owner whose company ObamaCare has cost jobs."

Hughes doesn't actually say in the ad how Obamacare has cost jobs for his company. He says that he received notice of a rate increase in insurance premiums. And we all know that no insurance company ever raised rates before Obamacare became law, right?

But the egregiously false claim that the RGA makes is the one showing in that screen shot in the video above: "34,000 jobs could be lost" because of the law. If this is sounding vaguely familiar to you, it's because we've debunked that claim already, previously over Medicaid expansion. But it's the same lie.

At least, that's according to a study that the South Carolina Hospital Association conducted. It concluded that expansion "would generate approximately $11.2 billion between 2014 and 2020," and "South Carolina’s total annual economic impact of the increase in federal funding due to the Medicaid expansion will be approximately $1.5 billion in labor income, $3.3 billion in state economic activity while generating nearly 44,000 new jobs in the state by 2020." The net gain for the state until 2020, the study says: "a surplus of approximately $9 million."
For those keeping score, that's one unsubstantiated claim about the impact of Obamacare on one small business and an already debunked claim about the impact of the law for the whole state of South Carolina.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (34+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 11:08:24 AM PDT

  •  Thanks so much for the debunking, JMcC! Xoxo (9+ / 0-)

    We're going to be debunking crap like this all through November and probably until 2016! Blech

    I ♥ President Barack Obama.

    by ericlewis0 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 11:21:01 AM PDT

    •  Until a generation has passed (6+ / 0-)

      and everyone has had insurance and better health.

      Until then, we can expect the usual crapola from the right.

      I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

      by woolibaar on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 11:37:44 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  debunking on dkos doesnt get it in front (8+ / 0-)

      Of the same eyes and ears who believe this ad confirms their beliefs.

      Dems have got to start spending some money NOW, and start responding to this crap on a major level.

      There should be a major campaign over the next few weeks, especially when ACA meets it's enrollment goal, to stand up for ACA and let people become acquainted with the facts.

      Today's problems are yesterday's solutions. Don Beck

      by Sherri in TX on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 11:51:03 AM PDT

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      •  You beat me to it. (3+ / 0-)
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        kerplunk, ericlewis0, VPofKarma

        We are up against fact challenged/ fact adverse folks. What we need to do is to narwhal the hell out of 2014. Turn out, turn out, turn out.

        The folks we need to get to the polls don't read Dkos. Heck, they may only vaguely hear the ad.

        Low information voters are too busy (yes, busy women!) to research the falsehoods of AFP et. al.
        They are working jobs if they have them, stretching budgets, feeding kids, going to school. Besides, not much good news is coming out of Washington for them, so voting, even less who to vote for is not on their top 100

        We need to bring presidential fervor to the 2014 elections. I'm not contributing money for ads. I giving money to help turn out. It is the only way to win Nov. 4, 2014.

        "Doubt kills more dreams than failure ever will."

        by never forget 2000 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:22:50 PM PDT

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      •  I wish I could upvote you 10 times. (0+ / 0-)

        Time and again, the Dems have repeatedly sit on their collective hands instead of pushing back against well-funded smear campaigns, no matter how repugnant.  Perhaps since liberals tend to be more tolerant of other viewpoints, they are hesitant to stoop to the bullying tactics of the right. It's time to stop thinking this way. A bully will continue to bully until s/he is stopped by someone strong enough to push back. PLEASE PUSH BACK THIS TIME!

  •  Of course they lie. Their propaganda (2+ / 0-)
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    cocinero, a2nite

    system was rebuilt in the 2000s to make use of the Straight Line Persuasion technology.

    Emotional appeals are everything.

    What they aim for is a full on conversion moment, where the target comes to believe in the GOP like motherhood, the flag, apple pie, and money.

    What else? And telling truth is dnagerous because truths connect to the always sloppy reality. Lies are simpler. They work better in the system.

    "Stealing kids' lunch money makes them strong and independent." -- Rand Paul Ryan

    by waterstreet2013 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:19:48 PM PDT

  •  This sounds familiarly vague, (0+ / 0-)

    not vaguely familiar.

    Clevinger, the Corporal and Colonel Korn agreed that it was neither possible nor necessary to educate people who never questioned anything. -Joseph Heller, Catch-22

    by SW Thinker on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:19:56 PM PDT

  •  The cite on the 34,000 stat says it's from Grover (1+ / 0-)
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    VPofKarma

    Norquist's group - so I guess they were the closest thing to an authority the RGA could find to completely misconstrue the CBO report.

    Signature (this will be attached to your comments)

    by here4tehbeer on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:20:40 PM PDT

    •  Grover still has Wednesday meetings to (1+ / 0-)
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      VPofKarma

      hand out the baloney talking points.  Yes, 34,000 jobs could be lost, Nikki Haley could give up politics to become a sex worker, and Grover Norquist could be revealed to be an agent of Putin's secret spy system.  Could, would, should.  Careful now because anybody can play this game.

      Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

      by judyms9 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 03:16:46 PM PDT

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  •  Here's another ad that needs to be debunked. (1+ / 0-)
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    VPofKarma

    It is being aired this week in Iowa by the Coalition for Jobs, Growth and Prosperity, a Chicago-based 501(c)(4). "Why is Obama Cutting Our Medicare?"

  •  Why are flat out lies not illegal? (2+ / 0-)
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    EighteenCharacters, VPofKarma

    Why is politics exempt from truth in advertising?

    Tell Warner Brothers Pictures that Rooney Mara is #NotYourTigerLily.

    by ExpatGirl on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:25:40 PM PDT

  •  Pointing out all the Republican lies (0+ / 0-)

    Is a good thing.

    But what would be better? Democrats need to get off their ass and vote in 2014.

    Instead of concentrating on the negative, Dems need to accentuate the positive.

    But at the age of 67, I think I am giving up on Democrats. They never appreciate what they've got until it's gone.

  •  But are we going to fight this with Ads and $? (0+ / 0-)

    WE must hang together or we will all hang separately. B.Franklin

    by ruthhmiller on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:56:51 PM PDT

  •  34,000 can retire! (0+ / 0-)

    They will not HAVE to keep working because of ACA.

    Don't run thru the screen door, Granny, you'll STRAIN yourself!

    by Tuba Les on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 03:09:51 PM PDT

  •  I love how the campaign against Sheheen here in SC (0+ / 0-)

    consists of simply saying, "Do you know what this guy wants? MORE Obamacare!!" Like, you know, "Can you believe it? This sick liberal actually wants more of this terrible, terrible thing. He wants to EXPAND Medicaid!"

    And you know, it's gonna work. Most people down here, even the ones who would benefit, don't know any different. Because around here, Everybody Knows that Medicaid expansion is just code for another handout to the lazy, undeserving ni - s, and couldn't possibly have anything to do with this state's white people and their needs.

    Besides, if you SHOULD need it while white, you are automatically no better than a ni. And worthy of equal contempt.

    I just despair, sometimes. The unspoken, unacknowledged racism that underlies so much of the political narrative down here is an immovable mountain of shit.

    Even a struggling immigrant Hispanic nurse's aide once complained to me about how the black people just suck all the money out of the economy and yada yada. These tropes circulate in all the non-black cultures like a disease.

    So using Obamacare against Sheheen is perfect. It will kill him.

  •  There are ads filled with lies everywhere and (0+ / 0-)

    every day.   We can debunk everyone of them here but matters not if people believe the lies.  Where are our ads??  We got to do better than 20 to 1.  

  •  Dems Can Be Very Dim..... (0+ / 0-)

    They assume people won't believe these ads.  They assume voters are smarter than that.  That's the standard playbook for Democrats.

    No.  People do believe the negative ads, & yes they'll continue to vote against their own interests.  Then they'll
    blame the dim Dems.  

    It's a win-win for the Republicans.  Are we really expecting them to change their MO?

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