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Last night, Bill Maher called out Democrats for running away from defending Obamacare, which would only lead to more defeats come November.

Now last week in this space, I congratulated Democrats for finally learning how to use the right words to sell their ideas.  This week, I'm going to ask for something in return — that they actually own those ideas.  Stand your ground.  when a Tea Partier says Obamacare is a government takeover, say, "I wish!"  Because that would mean Medicare for all!  (audience cheering and applause)
Video and full transcript below the fold.


And finally, New Rule: Crazy idea division.  Since there's an election coming up, Democrats might want to say something about what they're proposing to do for America sometime between now and November.  (audience applause)  Crazy idea.

Everyone is predicting disaster for Democrats in the midterms, and their response seems to be, "Yeah, sucks to be us right now."  Well, maybe that's because their basic talking points always start with an apology.  Like, "Obamacare is far from perfect, but...."  NOTHING'S PERFECT!!!  But you don't start with pointing that out about something you're supposed to like!

"Hey Bob, how's your wife?"

"Well, she's not perfect, but she beats masturbating alone."

(wild audience laughter and applause)

Now last week in this space, I congratulated Democrats for finally learning how to use the right words to sell their ideas.  This week, I'm going to ask for something in return — that they actually own those ideas.  Stand your ground.  when a Tea Partier says Obamacare is a government takeover, say, "I wish!"  Because that would mean Medicare for all!  (audience cheering and applause)

And you know, Medicare is hugely popular in America.  So let's see.  Getting behind something that's hugely popular, for all.  No, too hard a sell.

A year ago, Kaiser polled Americans on what they thought of Obamacare's individual provisions.  80% liked the idea of exchanges.  76% liked kids staying on their parents' plan.  71% liked Medicaid expansion.  Two-thirds liked the ban on pre-existing conditions.  Half the people in the survey were like, "Hey, why don't we get Congress to do these things?"  Oh, you mean the things the Democrats had already done, but are keeping it a big secret?

No wonder the Republicans have such an easy time selling their argument about Obamacare, which is basically, "Hey, we tried it, and it was a big failure."

How about volleying that one back with, "WHAT?!  We're still signing people up, for Christ's sake!  How can we even know if it's a failure?"  What we do know is that Sarah Palin and Rick Santorum said it would kill their children.  No, you guys are thinking of assault rifles.  (audience laughter and applause)

We also know that in 2010, Republican Senator Tom Coburn said, "There will be no insurance industry left in three years."  Always the drama queens!

The Republicans run ad after ad of Obamacare horror stories, but where are the success stories from the Democrats?  You just need someone who's seen a gynecologist, not Bigfoot!  (audience laughter)

Shoot a college kid on your phone!  "Hi, I'm Tony, I got the clap on spring break.  Good thing I was on my parents' plan, cuz now it doesn't hurt when I pee.  Thanks, Obamacare!"  (massive audience applause)  It's not like you're trying to sell a Vince Vaughn movie, this is a good thing!  (audience laughter)

And while we're on the subject of the Democratic Party owning what they should be proud to own, this guy is a perfect example....

(audience cheering)

Jimmy Carter is a perfect example of the way Democrats meekly go along when the Republicans create a false meme like Carter's "failed" presidency.  Failed by whose standards?  We may not have had a great economy in the '70s, but I'll tell you something else we didn't have — a war.  (audience applause)  Carter was branded a wimp, but the real wimps are the Democrats who never had his back for the achievement of never firing a shot while in office.  (audience cheering and applause)

And the courage of being the last President to ask Americans to sacrifice.  And yet, when Obama talks fondly about a President from his youth, he cites Reagan as an inspiration.  But Obama's supposed to be an environmentalist.  He should be inspired by the President who put solar panels on the White House roof!  (audience cheering and applause)  Not the President who came after him and tore them down because he thought the sun was interfering with Nancy's astrology!

Originally posted to BruinKid on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 05:15 AM PDT.

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  •  Maher gets it: (41+ / 0-)
    "Hi, I'm Tony, I got the clap on spring break.  Good thing I was on my parents' plan, cuz now it doesn't hurt when I pee.  Thanks, Obamacare!"
    It's that simple.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 05:24:20 AM PDT

    •  if single payer was enacted (0+ / 0-)

      the U.S. private hospital system wouldn't accept the patients because they like having a two-tiered medical system.  One for the very rich and one for the rest of us.

      •  Right (24+ / 0-)

        Which is why Single Payer has failed so spectacularly in other developed countries.  Oh, it hasn't failed?  Then your comment makes no sense.  I'm sure US hospitals would love to refuse emergency room care today to the uninsured but they can't and do you know why?  Because it is illegal for them to do so.  You may be opposed to Single Payer but don't think for a second that anyone else here is going to fall for your "concern."

        Arrrr, the laws of science be a harsh mistress. -Bender B. Rodriguez

        by democracy inaction on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:09:11 AM PDT

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        •  We would have to enforce mount sinai (0+ / 0-)

          to accept all people

          they won't even accept ACA plans.

          •  Many of the specialized (11+ / 0-)

            hospitals that have a good reputation were left off of insurance policies by THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, not the hospitals.

            Several hospitals in the Pacific Northwest have found themselves left off of the preferred providers list of all but one or two of the available plans.

            This includes a two cancer institutes, and a regional childrens hospital. There is also been some problems with policies eliminated hospitals across state lines a problem when the nearest hospital is in another state.

            The only way to discover the problems is to try it out and see what will work and what won't . I have insurance for the first time in 10 years because of ACA so I am a fan even though I currently very healthy I have seen what happens when people get sick and end up loosing everything.

            I would rather see single payer and the elimination of the insurance companies from this all together.

            It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

            by PSWaterspirit on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 01:56:23 PM PDT

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            •  Nobody (0+ / 0-)

              Nobody every promised that anyone could go anywhere they wanted for medical treatment and pay whatever they wanted.  This is a market based system that has to push costs down over time to survive.  If a hospital demands huge payments, they'll either have to find clients who can pay it on very expensive plans or they'll need to figure out a way to get their costs down.

              We paid extra for our plan to access our preferred treatment networks.  I hope that Cardiologist knows how much my wife likes him.

              William Hamilton practices Law and is a writer and community activist in the Charleston, SC area. He can reached through www.wjhamilton.com

              by wjhamilton29464 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:39:32 AM PDT

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        •  Speaking of refusing emergency care, Gov. Nathan (7+ / 0-)

          Deal wants his friends in Washington to reconsider the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act. Because of his refusing to expand Medicaid in the state, some hospitals are already in financial trouble. That's how the Repugs who didn't expand plan on fixing that problem, refuse them service at the emergency room doors. Nice, right?

          •  Gov. Jan Brewer in Az (1+ / 0-)
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            Pulled that kind of heavy-handed cutting of the Medicaid program.  It doesn't take too long before there are news stories about people who died because of the cuts (yes, even local media in Az reported it).  She was so beat up from that debacle in 2011 that she even (reluctantly) accepted the ACA Medicaid expansion a couple of years later.

            Understanding is limited by perspective. Perspective is limited by experience. America is a great place to live but it limits our ability to understand.

            by CindyV on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 10:04:06 AM PDT

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          •  SC (0+ / 0-)

            South Carolina expects to see several rural hospitals in poor areas close this year.  Of course those people will just travel to urban areas to get care.  The Republicans blocking Medicaid expansion don't bother to explain that far ahead to the tea party.

            When they're drunk or careless, the tea party announces that they really just hope to drive the poor and disabled out of the state, proving they know very little about poverty.

            William Hamilton practices Law and is a writer and community activist in the Charleston, SC area. He can reached through www.wjhamilton.com

            by wjhamilton29464 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:41:38 AM PDT

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      •  Not really. The 1% don't get sick often enough to (0+ / 0-)

        keep all those private hospitals in business.

        •  Go one further. (3+ / 0-)
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          The 1% use concierge doctors for house calls and if they need elective surgery that can wait a while, they go to foreign countries FOR THE CHEAPER PRICE as in Medical Tourism! They do not use insurance as they self pay everywhere and look for the best deal available. I read about one guy that took his corporate jet over to Belgium for a knee replacement. His quote here was $76k but in Belgium even as a foreigner his bill was only $6k. Even if you add a few nights at a hotel that is a huge savings.

    •  hehe BruinKid is right. :-) (0+ / 0-)

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Mon Apr 07, 2014 at 12:28:35 PM PDT

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  •  thanks for these (22+ / 0-)

    I usually don't have time for these shows (and don't get hbo) but I appreciate being kept current.

    www.tapestryofbronze.com

    by chloris creator on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 05:27:26 AM PDT

  •  Maher NAILS it (41+ / 0-)
    He should be inspired by the President who put solar panels on the White House roof!  (audience cheering and applause)  Not the President who came after him and tore them down because he thought the sun was interfering with Nancy's astrology!
    More than thirty years later Reagan's dismissive attitude to renewable energy still sticks in my craw -- but then what should one expect from an oil company shill?
  •  And....? (21+ / 0-)

    Let's see how many incumbent democrats up for re-election this fall actually stand up and advocate for the ACA, state that it's success is crucial.

    "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

    by Superpole on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 06:16:12 AM PDT

    •  They will here in CA (7+ / 0-)

      (Dem incumbents)

      "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

      by Sybil Liberty on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:16:44 AM PDT

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      •  I live by the quote you mentioned... (0+ / 0-)

        though in a slightly modified form.

        1.  Show up
        2.  Pay attention
        3.  Tell the truth, as I know it - at this point in time
        4.  Be open to outcomes

        I believe it is important to add the extra five words to number three, because what I believe to be the truth today, may change tomorrow in the light of new information.

        There are many people who are willing to tell you their truth, who assume their truth will never change, and probably don't want it to because of what it would do to the rest of their belief system.  

        I believe this is also connected to the idea of a person being able to say "I might be wrong."  If a person isn't able to admit to the possibility that they might be wrong, I doubt they will be able to change their mind.

        I believe it is this kind of attitude, or priority, this inability to admit that one might be wrong, that is indicative of a zealot, as most zealots would rather die than change their mind.  Based on this reasoning, I see little difference between a Muslim zealot and a Christian zealot.

    •  I agree. Mahrer's response to "government (10+ / 0-)

      takeover of healthcare" is exactly mine - "I wish, I wanted medicare for all..."

      I don't get the Democrats these days. Corporate says we're gonna lose - so better get ready for impeachment...

      It doesn't work like that. There were 9 months to go. The election hasn't even begun to get started yet, and there was this massive refrain of "We're going to LOSE!!!"

      I don't get much from Democrats, but what I got was a bunch of whining, defeatist crap bracketing a donation box.

      It really pissed me off.

      I want the Democrats to fight hard. Fight hard so I can put the snarky exclamation pony on the end of the statement,"I wish, I wanted medicare for all..."

      I'm not going to go in and make the arguments for you, as I do not believe them, but the rank and file do, and they could be winning arguments.

      I wrote a comment the other day on this topic, and it is important that Democrats come out strong with conviction linked to Democratic core values: health, fairness, well being.

      Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

      by k9disc on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:28:21 AM PDT

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      •  "I want the Democrats to fight hard". (2+ / 0-)
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        Yes, but do you believe they are going to do so?

        "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

        by Superpole on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 11:13:25 AM PDT

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        •  To win an election, I would hope so. (2+ / 0-)

          I mean, shit man, what's the point to any of it if they won't fight for that?

          I'm used to Democrats not fighting for working people and for a better society and future, or doing so at a pragmatic rate, but I'm not used to them not fighting to win an election.

          I mean it's like they are in the tank - getting shitfaced during training camp.

          "I knew dat he was no brawler and was in it for da wrong reason, but I didn't tink he was a bumb."  /Mick from Rocky

          Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

          by k9disc on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 11:52:50 AM PDT

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          •  I'm Trying to Understand This.. (0+ / 0-)

            "To win an election".....

            Democrats should fight hard to win elections-- why? just so they get a nice, phat paycheck and a Cadillac health care plan for themselves and their families?

            OR, are they supposed to be working for We the People? DOING stuff for We the People?

            "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

            by Superpole on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 12:00:40 PM PDT

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            •  Cmon man... (0+ / 0-)

              Why don't you tell me why Democrats fight so hard to win elections and leave the policy and people behind?

              I know the realities, and so do you. They are beholden to their sponsors.

              But my point is that they should at least be trying to win the election, even if not being a People's Party which it doesn't even look like they have been trying to do.

              Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

              by k9disc on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 12:40:00 PM PDT

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              •  As I understand it... (0+ / 0-)

                and I think it may have been mentioned at some time on DKos, people like the Koch brothers, and Karl Rove, are spending all kinds of money putting out ads saying the Democrats are going to lose this seat, and this state, and they won't do well in the mid-terms.

                They do this  HOPING their ads will convince the ignorant or ill-informed electorate that the Republicans are much stronger than they really are, HOPING it will cause people to ignore their common sense, HOPING to get people to believe it's the truth, SO the Democrats and Progressives WILL lose.

                See how it works?  They will win if people buy into their bogus ads and get discouraged.  They don't care how they win, and many of these people will do whatever they think is necessary to win - which is why we need to stay focused on getting the message out, confronting their lies and half-truths, and flush them out of the system, as we are doing with Rush Limbaugh.

          •  Alex Sink's half-hearted defense of Obamacare (4+ / 0-)

            hurt her, IMHO. The way to win is to say: It might not be perfect but it's better than nothing, which is what you're offering. Health savings accounts, my ass!

        •  We will find people that do (0+ / 0-)

           If the current Dems want to sell out and be weak, we'll fund and replace them with ones who aren't. It's a sane, attached-to-reality version of what the Baggers have done to the GOP

    •  Doggone few I'd say. (2+ / 0-)
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      Generally speaking the Democratic Party is composed either of cowards or they think that their 'stuff' doesn't stink and wouldn't bow to counter any lie or quoted out of context half truth promulgated by the GOP.  And there lies a huge problem.  If a lie is repeated often enough it becomes the 'truth' to the un- or ill informed.  The Rules of Queensberry do not apply when engaged in a knife fight.  I'm also reminded of a saying attributed to Winston Churchill. "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life."  I have to wonder if the Democratic Party has the intestinal fortitude to stand toe-to-toe with the GOP.

      •  Depends on which Dems you're talking about. (2+ / 0-)

        A select few - of which Elizabeth Warren and Alan Grayson come to mind - actually do, and don't apologise for it either.  We need more Dems like them.  More like them, and less gutless corporatist Blue Dogs.

      •  I have to Wonder (0+ / 0-)
        I have to wonder if the Democratic Party has the intestinal fortitude to stand toe-to-toe with the GOP.
        and the "funny" part?

        if a repug wins POTUS in 2016 and finally makes some bold plans to improve our sucky economy, the democrats in congress will clap and cheer and support the plan 100%.

        "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

        by Superpole on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 07:37:04 AM PDT

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  •  OK, the problem with comedians being (5+ / 0-)

    supportive of Democrats is that the Cons have no sense of humor.
    To make fun of their myopia is to insult them. To laugh at their misunderstanding is to demean them. The problem with people who go by their feelings is that their feelings are so easily hurt and then they have another excuse to wallow in resentment.
    What's to be done? Damned if I know. What I do know is that these humorless fearmongers are totally unfit for public office.
    The nattering nabobs of negativism, which was, by the way, a sterling example of transference, have evolved into nervous nellies.

    There is a psychological advantage to pessimism. It means one never gets a nasty surprise. If one expects the worst, then reality is bound to be less fearsome, unless death comes calling and then it doesn't matter.
    To die quickly and soon, as Grayson correctly identified the cons' recipe for health problems, is not a negative when one is fixated on the last days. The last day is also when equality and life everlasting are to be achieved. So, what's the point?

    http://hannah.smith-family.com

    by hannah on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 06:40:02 AM PDT

    •  Making Republicans the object of ridicule is (27+ / 0-)

      a good thing. The anti-science, anti-woman, anti-sex, anti-BIRTH CONTROL, pro-viagara, pro-WAR-as-long-as-I-don't-have-to-fight-or-send-my-kids-to-fight party richly deserves general ridicule.

      Once people are laughing at you they no longer take you seriously.

      Democrats must stop letting FEAR rule their actions.

      Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

      by Catskill Julie on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 07:23:27 AM PDT

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    •  The point is... (0+ / 0-)

      the conservatives in power, and with the money, are trying to keep us ignorant and afraid, because people are easier to control when they are ignorant and afraid.  To me, their constituency is mostly made up of people who are ignorant, and easy to frighten.

      The point is that the basis for their point of view is basically co-dependent in nature, which, in the long run, leads to their living in dysfunctional and addictive ways.

      When you have a person whose self-image is very dependent on how other people respond to them, you will get people who blame how they feel on how other people react to them.  If the image or the feedback they receive is perceived as negative, they will take it personally.

      As the old saying goes, life is 5% what you make it, and 95% how you learned to take it.  Co-dependent people have learned to act like emotional victims, and so, take things personally.

      Of course, as soon as a person blames someone else for how they feel, guess who they will try to change.  It won't be themself.

      I believe this is why the conservatives/republican/tea party people want everything their way.  They want everyone to think and act like they do, so the whole world will give them a reflection they can live with, and one which makes them think they are okay people.

      When they are disagreed with, and their self-image is threatened, and they take something personally, their response should tell you volumes about how ignorant and afraid they are?

      This may not be true for all of the above mentioned, and it may be true for some democrats and progressives as well.  The bottom line, however, is no one out-performs their internal self-image.

      Also, the idea that equality and everlasting life are going to be achieved on the final day is nothing more than an opinion that many people ASSUME is the truth, and so, ASSUME it is a fact.

      If you cannot prove something to be scientifically and definitively true, then you do NOT have a fact, you have an opinion.  Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but they do not get to call an opinion a fact UNTIL it is proven to be true, and I continue to remind everyone of that fact.

  •  Thanks for posting (4+ / 0-)
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    They Killed Will? Those Bastards!

    by blueoregon on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 06:46:15 AM PDT

  •  Carter had a great interview on CNN (25+ / 0-)

    He was interviewed by Erin Burnett who made the mistake of bringing up a quote from Oliver North about foreign policy.  

    Carter nailed it.

    Carter: Oliver North is a Criminal

    Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

    by Betty Pinson on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 07:38:59 AM PDT

  •  Bill Maher is to Democrats what Frank Lutz is to (3+ / 0-)
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    Republicans. Personally, I wonder why Louie Ludwig hasn't been hired to craft the earwigs needed for 2014.  

    Those who fought the war in Afghanistan won it. Get them out of Afghanistan NOW . . . It's long past time. The time has come to repair this country and care for its' veterans.

    by llbear on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:46:06 AM PDT

  •  These Dems are pathetic (3+ / 0-)
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    They're all some combination of the following and need to be replaced with smarter, tougher, more principled and progressive Dems ASAP:

    Conservative
    Corporatist
    Corrupt
    Cowardly
    Craven

    These Dems either stand for nothing except their own power and careers, are too conservative for the party and country, or are too weak or unprincipled to be of any use. They need to be driven out and replaced by BETTER Dems.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 09:07:12 AM PDT

  •  It's nice to see (4+ / 0-)

    a liberal defending Carter's legacy instead of bashing it as I have personally seen happen recently on this very site by self-proclaimed "liberals."  It seems to me that those here that like to bash Carter are the same neoliberal third way DLC "Democrats" that are the biggest part of the problem.

    To hell with them, I agree with Maher.

    Arrrr, the laws of science be a harsh mistress. -Bender B. Rodriguez

    by democracy inaction on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 09:57:34 AM PDT

    •  I'm going to give it to you hard. Carter was a (0+ / 0-)

      massive FAILURE as President and as 2nd term re-lection candidate. The worship of him by some lefties makes me laugh and laugh, how absurd. Look, he FIRED all the realists and antiwar people in his cabinet (and those he didn't fire left), people like Cyrus Vance, in favor of idiot warmonger Brzezinski (at the time Mr. B. was a hawk. Ever since GWB, he turned into an antiwar realist. Mr.B. also has to be top of the list for leaking Carter's debate book to the Reagans, somebody did it, we all know that, but considering Mr. B. wasn't loyal & also worked for the Reagans & GHWB, well then... who else had such sterling qualifications.) Thanks to the hawks & traitors, the hostage rescue mission FAILED.

      I could go on but I'm getting very tired. Really, it is super shallow to think Carter was this great progressive and others failed him. He failed himself, and with so many FAILS the man in charge can't not be responsible. He wasn't a progressive in his last 2years of his term & during re-election, he turned to the Democratic right (hawks, losers, spin doctors {Pat Cadell for chrisakes}, and traitors). It's only long after his Presidency that he's acted and sounded more Progressive. So yes, given it is ACCURATE to bash Carter's weaknesses and not engage in historical revisionism (this is the man who botched his campaign so much he gave us President Reagan).

      I am not a neoliberal DLCer, I am a progressive, but I won't put up with this garbage Carter projection revisionism worship by some prepostorous goofy lefties. Get your history straight. Carter was weak and he hurt the party for the next 3 cycles. Yeah, we need to learn the lessons.

      •  The problem I have with your point of view... (1+ / 0-)
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        is that I don't know why Carter changed.  I don't assume to know, but it appears as if you do.

        I read on another site that Obama has received more death threats than all other presidents combined.  I can't prove that to be true, but it makes me wonder what kind of pressure he faces everyday.  

        I also wonder if Obama wasn't given some kind of early command to lean to the right, by those who have money and power we can't even comprehend.  

        I just read that there are 85 people in the world that control as much money as the poorest 3.5 billion people.  That's half the world's population.  If the people with this kind of money and power wanted Obama killed, it's not out of the realm of possibility they could have it done.  Is it possible that Carter faced the same possibility?  

        How would we know if he was told he'd be killed if that info was ever leaked to the world?  

        It's been said that we get the government we deserve.  I would have to believe that if 75 or 80% of the people in America wanted something to change, things would change in an awful damn hurry.  If the population of the U.S. can be kept ignorant and afraid, I doubt that will happen.  That's why I value sites like this.

        •  Great post, on that topic, and it's something I (0+ / 0-)

          always think about with Obama on the NSA and other security state civil liberties issues.

          Back to Carter, he had a small circle of advisors, smaller than Obama, and also a wider circle of DC insiders, perhaps more than Obama. Last 2 years, he was heavily under Brzenski's influence. I don't know about the pressure, but it's the presiden't job to handle and manage that, and Carter did it very poorly.

          I liked him a lot the first 2 years, but like many who feel betrayed by Obama, I felt betrayed by Carter's last 2 years. I was especially offended by his needless hawkish draft registration which affected me personally. If you didn't register, you'd lose your ability to receive student loans. That evil law is still in place, thanks to Carter. There are so many policy blunders from his last 2 years and campaign blunders, but I'll stop there. That can't all be due to being threatened as President. A lot of it is having good or bad judgment policy and campaign wise, and Carter just had way too much bad judgment as President and as campaigner (excuse me, but the debate book theft to Reagan, botched Iran hostage rescue mission, and the failure to stop Reagan from making a secret election deal with Iran to release the hostages shows a massive underestimation of the GOP and it's unforgivable). Those on the left who worship him tend to only look at his post presidency (which is very good and admirable) and whitewash his actual governing.

  •  Well. Okay. That's a Start, I Suppose. (2+ / 0-)
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    k9disc, nominalize

    Yeah, no doubt. Democrats ought to trumpet their wins. Voters would start to warm up to them. But they cower in the dark whenever someone mentions Obama (let alone "Obamacare"). Where are their heads (don't answer that)?

    But even that's still defending. I gotta say, that's not good enough.

    We need people on the offensive, not the defensive. A defensive strategy is a losing strategy. If you're only on the defensive, eventually you'll lose everything (because no one can win every battle).

    So, this is a good start, Bill, but next week, let's go on to things the Democrats could be on the offensive for:

    An amendment clearly eliminating corporations from personhood.
    An amendment clearly delineating women have an absolute right to control their own reproduction.
    An international minimum wage.
    Repeal of all subsidies and tax credits for the fossil fuel industry.
    Cutting military spending back to the 5X level.
    Things like that.

    I suspect if the Democratic Party stood for something the voters would respond. Apparently, based on what we've seen on the other side, they don't even have to get it right. They just need to stand for things and stand for them loudly.

    Voters respect that. Voters like a loud asshole with an opinion. Just look at Congress if you don't believe me.

    If they picked a few things from the list above, so much the better.

  •  Most of the appeals for funds I get from Democrats (1+ / 0-)
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    Shockwave

    are to defeat the Koch brothers.  I don't care for the Kochs and they aren't running.  I would rather support a Dem who tells me what they stand for not who they are against.  They are not going to out raise the Koch money so fight for what you believe in...health care, restoring food stamp cuts and unemployment, creating jobs, whatever.  Most of the people I know don't know or care about the Kochs.  

    •  Yeah, just who ARE these Dems?? (0+ / 0-)

      It's as if the people running the campaigns for the various Dems aren't really committed to the Democratic Party and are bored by real, down-in-the-dirt politics.

      Where are the LBJs?  The HHHs?

      Maybe they weren't saints, but they actually believed in something and campaigned as if they did.  The current crop of Dems seem to be just putting in time until their retirement benefits max out.

      However, it's a lot easier to just give up, but still collect that paycheck until November.  Easier to concede an election before it starts than have an in-your-face campaign that may have come up a little short on your resume when you try to hired in the next election cycle.

      We'd still have separate-but-equal if this crowd of milquetoasts had been in office back in the 1960s.  LBJ predicted his work cost his party the South for a generation; the wimps in the Democratic Party have lost it for several more, at last count.

  •  Bill Maher is a big single payer supporter (1+ / 0-)
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    He understands that Obamacare is a step towards single payer.

    As a matter of fact I may MC an event at his producer's house to support single payer very soon.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 06:19:42 PM PDT

  •  Here is the correct response (0+ / 0-)

    to the wingnut assault on healthcare reform

    Who teaches the Dems to never mention the good things that GOPers hate?  

    The robb'd that smiles steals something from the thief. -- Shakespeare

    by not2plato on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 05:26:42 AM PDT

  •  Tip'd for @BillMaher (0+ / 0-)

    Yes, he has some goofy ideas, like vaccines can be bad; but name me anyone else with his bully pulpit willing, able and standing up and shouting to the nation regularly; that Republicans and their ideas are bad for the Nation, bad for our Republic, and need to be stopped, and it needs to be now?

    Cause I don't see anyone else doing it, except Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.


    "I like paying taxes...with them, I buy Civilization"

    by Angie in WA State on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 02:32:01 PM PDT

  •  It is why (0+ / 0-)

    people think the Democrats really want what the republicans are doing because they show no balls. Stand and fight is not in Democrats vocabulary. They want to lose.

  •  Signups (0+ / 0-)

    Healthcare signups continued through the weekend here in Charleston.  Our Navigators are working solid all day today.  Hundreds singed up in our area over the weekend.

    Obamacare isn't magic and it's not the internet.  It works when one American who cares sits down with another for about an hour, listening to them, helping them understand their options and finally letting them make a choice.  People are nervous and frightened, but they're very grateful for the help, even when they're locked out because our state blocked the medicaid expansion.  At least they know that someone cares.

    William Hamilton practices Law and is a writer and community activist in the Charleston, SC area. He can reached through www.wjhamilton.com

    by wjhamilton29464 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 07:35:56 AM PDT

  •  Support your President (0+ / 0-)

    President Obama did an amazing act of leadership ensuring that all Americans will have health care. I am so confused by the hypocrisy of the right when they stand against abortion, but cut food stamps and make it difficult for women to obtain birth control. As Christians we are called on to speak of the least of His people. The test is not for the poor; the test is for a country to show compassion for all its people.

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