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I am quoting an email in it's entirety.

Senator Mark Kirk of Illinois (Actually, he's from the Chicago Imperium, and we from the other end of the state don't consider that entire chunk of territory to even BE Illinois!) sent this little tale to my in-box, thinking that I would be as easily fooled as too many of the low-functionals down here.  

Luckily, he was WRONG and now I can expose his little "horror story" right here.

I'm copying it entire,  with only the web- and social-media- link garbage stripped out.

Note that he is soliciting other "tales" from the ill-informed (and outright liars??).

I will reply to the contents of this email, after the mandatory cheesy-poof-of-doom, below the fold:

"Mark Kirk
U.S. Senator for Illinois

Dear Friend,

8-year-old Wyatt from Creal Springs, Illinois was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes two years ago. Wyatt's dad Jeff pays over $11,000 in medical bills ever [SIC] year. Jeff would do anything for Wyatt, but because of Obamacare, Jeff will now be paying an additional $4,000 ever year--a 36% increase in yearly costs. The increased cost threatens Jeff's ability to pay for Wyatt's college education, Jeff's retirement, and many other needs.

Unfortunately, stories like these are all too common. Across Illinois, thousands of families have seen costs rise, hours cut and plans lost. After four years of Obamacare, millions are worse off than they were before. I want to hear your story, so that I can better advocate on your behalf against this disastrous law, and we can replace Obamacare with legislation that is truly affordable.

Contact me by clicking below or share #YourStory on Facebook, Twitter], Instagram or YouTube:

It is an honor to represent you in the Senate.
Very Truly Yours,
Mark Kirk
United States Senator
OFFICES:
Chicago
230 South Dearborn, Suite 3900
Chicago, IL 60604
Phone: 312-886-3506
Fax: 312-886-2117    
Springfield
607 East Adams, Suite 1520
Springfield, IL 62701
Phone: 217-492-5089
Fax: 217-492-5099    
Washington, DC
524 Hart Office Building
Washington DC, 20510
Phone: 202-224-2854
Fax: 202-228-4611"

How big a TALE can he tell and not have his nose over-balance him?  I wonder just how long it has grown since they clicked "SEND" on this one?

And JUST HOW GULLIBLE do they think we are?  Don't they know that SOME of the people aren't IDIOTS?

Now, to "Wyatt and Jeff."  Frankly, at face value, if the story is true, "Jeff" is an IDIOT of the highest water. Illinois has child health insurance with sliding scale deductibles and programs JUST for juvenile diabetes.  If they had a private insurance policy that left them holding an eleven-grand sack every year, well, that insurance sales-twit saw them coming!!

If he had insurance before the ACA, and it covered juvenile diabetes care with eleven grand left to pay out of pocket, it was a JUNK PLAN and they HAD to drop it when the ACA went into effect.  OR amend it to have LOWER out-of-pocket expenses!

So, as far as I can see, it's not possible, unless this "Jeff" moran [SIC - You've got to LOVE this meme!] CHOSE to keep his JUNK policy and continue to pay about five thousand dollars MORE than the legal maximum for out-of-pocket expenses.  This could be his choice perhaps, but that would have been HIS choice and no fault of the ACA!!  So, he's either MASSIVELY STUPID, or that's lie number one.

Now, I'm a native of the area where this supposedly takes place.  I KNOW this place.  I can POINT to "Creal Springs."  Heck, allow me my good boots and a good day for a hike and I can WALK there!  

It's in the Shawnee National Wildlife / National Forest areas, and other than geese and farming (now that we've almost gotten done with strip-mining coal and destroying the land thereby), it's DIRT POOR.  There are NO jobs to speak of.  These is NO industry to speak of.  Other than the scenery, fishing, and hunting, there is NOTHING much down here but prisons and prison-guard jobs (or prison sentences!).

The Creal Springs, Illinois area is just rife with poverty.  I seriously doubt that anyone down there MAKES $11K a year!  It's REALLY THAT poor.  And the fat-cats from Daley-ville, AKA The Chicago Imperium, DON'T GIVE A SINGLE SOLITARY CRAP.

The high-sulfur coal they used to strip-mine out of the ground (leaving all the scars, pollution, and toxic waste and run-off) is no longer economical to burn anywhere, so the mines are almost all closed.  (I think some of it is winding up as yellow smog in CHINA, actually, but don't quote me on that!)

The nasty, dirty stuff has so much sulfur in it, that you can find lumps of nearly-pure sulfur laying on the ground in places where the seam was exposed, where you can walk on what is left of the mine.

We burned local coal for heat when I was a kid.  There was a coal-fired box (A "StokerMatic.") which sat in the middle of the living room, and which belched billows of yellow smoke at frequent intervals - INSIDE THE HOUSE!

You could taste the sulfur, and I mean that in all seriousness.  NOT burning this stuff, for heat, for power, for fuel for ANY reason, is a good thing for the whole world!

But that's where the Big Money Corporations used to make their piles.  (Mr. Peabody, anyone?  Muhlenburg wasn't the ONLY county he hauled away!)  And all that the imbeciles in our government can do is scream about "Bringing Back King Coal!"

Short-sighted fools.  They keep harping on coal, instead of trying to move on and get OTHER industry and jobs in here.  But that's another rant for another time.

Back to "Wyatt and Jeff."

Let's stipulate they actually HAVE been paying eleven grand for insulin and needles and test strips and meters and such.  It's really NOT bloody likely, since the state has child health programs JUST for this sort of thing and they most of the time GIVE the insulin and the rest away, for usually a FOUR DOLLAR CO-PAY.

I called my rural health center clinic and ASKED specifically how much a juvenile diabetes patient could expect to pay out of pocket last year, and they said a couple hundred dollars a YEAR, in all, for the insulin and everything, under the state child health plans.  Medicaid COVERS this stuff.

(The only thing that might mitigate this is, according to the clerk in the clinic, was if Poppa Jeff was in the $250,000 a year or higher income bracket.  And at that income level, he gets NO SYMPATHY FROM ME. He can bloody PAY the whole bill for all of my marbles!  So says the aulde-pharte medical retiree, care of the Illinois State University Retirement System, who is married to a teacher covered under the Illinois State Teacher Retirement System. ("Covered" IF we can get her to retirement BEFORE the butt-munches in Springfield renege even MORE on the contract they made with her over thirty years ago for retirement benefits!))

(Again, another rant, for another time.)

Now, let's assume that he is NOT a budding millionaire, and is like nearly everyone else in the Creal Springs area, or to keep it simple, let's say they're "POOR AS DIRT" like all their neighbours.

So, if he isn't a millionaire or close to it, the state of Illinois child insurance program pays for his insulin and such, as I said before.

And if he is in the middle somewhere, and had a JUNK policy, which he would have had to demand that he be allowed to keep, which -shafted- him for that eleven thousand for insulin, then under the ACA:

HIS MAXIMUM OUT-OF-POCKET OUTLAY IS NOW NOT ELEVEN THOUSAND BUT A BIT OVER SIX THOUSAND

(if I recall the law and its' provisions correctly).

Therefore he SAVES about $5000 a year over the expenses he has now, rather than having to PAY $4000 MORE!

To actually have to pay $15,000 (the original eleven plus the 'new' four) for insulin and his son's diabetes care, considering that new $6000-odd ACA cap on out-of-pocket expenses, his insurance costs would have to be

OVER NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR ABOVE THAT.

Silver Plan? Gold?  SCREW THAT!  It would have to be a freaking RUBIDIUM-PLATED, DIAMOND-STUDDED, PLUTONIUM PLAN DRIPPING GOLD-PRESSED LATINUM to cost that much!!

And diabetes supplies under an ACA-approved plan, Silver level (sort of like mine perhaps, which is where I got these figures, the booklet that came with my plan), would cost at MOST $50 a month for BRAND NAME non-generic, non-"plan" insulin. That's $600 a year.  Same for test strips and lancets, at MOST another 12-months' supply at $50 a month.  So from $11,000 we're down to $1,200 for supplies and insulin.  Make it $1500 to not miss anything and make the right-wingers happier.  That's still a LOT LESS than ELEVEN THOUSAND!

MY plan however has a "mail-in" prescription system, for diabetic supplies it's all-but mandatoy to use it.  The total cost listed in my plan handbook for diabetes supplies (2 types of insulin, strips, lancets, a meter -- new every two years at most, syringes, alcohol wipes, and ALL) is $44 a month.  $524 a year.

NOT $11,000.  NOT $15,000.  Not even $1500.

So, there's lie number twenty-seven-gazillion-and-six, another de-bunked ACA "Horror-Lie," and another Tea-Publican propaganda screed missing the point.

Incidentally, yes, I -did- reply to the message from the "Honorable" Kirk unit, just before I UNSUBSCRIBED from his Spam-generator.  I would be willing to bet that he (No, not really him, but his staffers; I'm no fool, this fat-cat doesn't give a RIP what I or anyone other than the Koch Brothers has to say) didn't enjoy reading it.

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  •  Kirk is a fraud (12+ / 0-)

    Your anti-Chicago remarks are out of line.

    The rest of your diary makes good sense.

    Kirk is a well known "exaggerator."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    There is so much more...especially about his false military career history and "awards" he claimed to have received.

    "It ain't over till it's over."-Yogi Berra

    by mock38 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 01:39:16 AM PDT

    •  But, But... Word is He and Senator Durbin (2+ / 0-)
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      Rogneid, TofG

      are good friends... they are buddies.

      regardless, what is the date of the above letter from Kirk? is this recent?

      "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

      by Superpole on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 04:04:53 AM PDT

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      •  That "Good Buddy" meme. . . (1+ / 0-)
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        OleHippieChick

        . . .caused a Snohomish County (WA))Democratic County Executive, John Lovick to appoint a hard right winger, John Koster, to become the first Snohomish County ombudsman at a salary of over 100,000, thousand dollars a year after he lost an election.  My representative, a Democrat named Sullivan said that Mr. Koster was a good man and I should not judge him by what he said during his campaign for the First District Congressional seat here in Washington.  Three months into his term Mr. Koster's name cannot even be found on the Snohomish County website and he is supposed to be helping residents of Snohomish County with their county problems.  I see the problem as not only conservatives, but Democrats who facilitate for them.  One day soon I am going to diary about this.

        If we are going to elect Democrats, lets elect real ones!

        by waztec on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 08:17:34 AM PDT

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        •  It should be 100,000 dollars. . . . (0+ / 0-)

          . . .the extra thousand I tossed in there is either a Freudian desire for hyperbole, or early Sunday morning proof reading issues. :)

          If we are going to elect Democrats, lets elect real ones!

          by waztec on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 08:40:22 AM PDT

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      •  It came in to my in-box LATE LAST NIGHT. (0+ / 0-)

        Can't get much more recent than that.

        •  Oops. The retired nurse I called? Seems I woke her (1+ / 0-)
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          OleHippieChick

          she had turned in and was already asleep when I phoned last night to find out about juvenile diabetes care and the rest of that.  Looks like I owe her a pie or something to make up for disturbing her....

          She still gave me the information I needed last night, and waited until today to thump me about the head and ears for calling so late.

          Blackberry pie.  Or maybe peach.  Never annoy a nurse. They know where to stick you.

    •  "Out of line"?? You should live in the other half. (2+ / 0-)
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      tobendaro, Rogneid

      THEN say that busting the Chicago Imperium's chops is "out of line."

      You perhaps live in Chicago, I suspect.... That would explain it.

      Check how much difference per capita is spent on kids in CHICAGO and down-state.  Just look at the difference.  If we could swap that, just EVEN IT UP FOR A YEAR, why,, we wouldn't know what to DO with the VAST WEALTH THAT WOULD REPRESENT IN OUR SCHOOLS!!  VAST WEALTH that in their greed and complacency the Chicagoans find "barely adequate."

      WE WISH we had "adequate."

      With that kind of money, even for ONE YEAR, we  MIGHT even be able to upgrade the TWO COMPUTERS in my wife's classroom (That's TWO in TOTAL, for 25 kids; NOT two EACH for 25 kids, by the way.) from PENTIUM II 250 MHz machines with 32 Megs of RAM and a 2-gigabyte hard disk.  That I cobbled together from scraps and bits that were in various junk bins and throw-aways around the area.  And we're LUCKY to have them at all.

      Check how much preferential treatment is given to ANYTHING Chicago, when the other option is ANYTHING down-state.

      Our "representative" from this state district spends so much time in Chicago sucking up to the Repugnicant wheel-horses from good ol' Daleyville, that he has almost FORGOTTEN he lives down here, and he is supposed to represent US and not the denizens of the Gold Coast up there.

      He doesn't even bother to show up here, except when he wants a vote.  THEN he occasionally throws us a bone.  Usually thrown out the window on his way back North to Chicago.  And there turns out to be NO MEAT on it once we actually get a look at it.

      ANYTHING Chicago wants, Chicago GETS, and more than occasionally that's TAKES, from down-state. Funding, jobs, representation, and anything else that's taken a fancy to.

      It's the vote density!  And it's WORSE of course since "Citizens United."

      Why BOTHER giving even lip-service to the bottom-of-the-barrel half of the state when ALL you need is a couple of Chicago districts and you can carry ANYTHING??

      Besides, the big money for being a bought-and-paid-for-politician is all in Chicago.  We can't afford the bribes to get our own representatives to vote for our interests.

      When over half of the geographic area of this state stops being ignored completely for funding, at best, or picked apart like a carcass at a vulture convention when it comes time to rob something back for the benefit of CHICAGO, AGAIN, then perhaps it won't be appropriate to be more than a little upset at having the short, very dirty, end of the stick.

      Until we're not the butt end of the joke known as "Geographical Equality in School Funding" then Chicago is FAIR GAME for all the gaffs I want to throw at it.  And that's only ONE area where the stick is dirty.  There are HUNDREDS of other ways we get the shaft while Chicago gets the mine.  Roads?  Higher Ed infrastructure? Bridges? Communications? Internet access?

      You name it,Chicago has it and WE DON'T.

      We don't want MORE than anyone else.  We just want the SAME as everyone in Cook County gets for their kids, for our kids.  (START with equal school funding per capita!!!)

      •  As a son of Chicago, (2+ / 0-)
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        msazdem, CoyoteMarti

        who now lives in Indy, I find your need to blame your troubles on the City of the Big Shoulders. Chicago accounts for the vast majority of the state budget.

        Downstate contributes almost nothing, compared to what they receive in benefits and state manufactured jobs like all those prisons you mentioned, which are usually the largest employer in the county. Yet you're whining about how you are getting short-changed.

        My heart bleeds for all the downstate Republicans you call neighbors. They consistently vote against anything that might benefit their constituents, but get re-elected every year by bashing Chicago, or St. Louis, or any other urban area. Do you ever wonder why so many folks resettled in urban areas where they could find work?

        Here's my take on it - the revolution will not be blogged, it has to be slogged. - Deoliver47

        by OIL GUY on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 10:09:27 AM PDT

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        •  The PEOPLE of Chicago are fine. Married one. (1+ / 0-)
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          OIL GUY

          It's the political pandering and preferential B.S. at the expense of the REST of the state, NOT any person or (other than political) group in the place.

          Maybe I didn't make that clear enough, and if so I apologize.  Again, NOT the people.  The crooked POLITICS that leave MY half of the state in poverty.

          •  Chi town (0+ / 0-)

            Chicago has many problems.  But your rant is pathetic.
            I live in DuPage County…not Cook, or Chicago proper.
            I would like to see your real estate tax bill compared to mine or compared to my son’s who lives in Lincoln Park (Chi).  I am paying much freight for schools, etc.  So does he.  
            The Governor of this state is from DuPage County (Hinsdale).  His GOP opponent resides mostly downtown Chicago in a condo overlooking Millennium Park.
            So in the fall election, I will vote for the not- Chicago Dem vs. the Cook County, Chicago mostly GOP guy.

            "It ain't over till it's over."-Yogi Berra

            by mock38 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 03:02:43 PM PDT

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  •  Republicans like stories and the Cons like (4+ / 0-)
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    Rogneid, TofG, hbk, OleHippieChick

    to tell them.
    That's why it was probably a big mistake to deep six the soaps. Limpbough is a poor substitute and the likes of Kirk and Cruz are no better. Cruz reading a children's book on the floor of the Senate was as telling as Dubya sitting in that reading class in Florida while the planes were flying into the towers.
    Who would have thought they'd like green eggs and ham?

    There are people who live in an alternate universe and they like being entertained with stories. That's what FOX TV is, you know, story telling with pictures of pretty people.

    http://hannah.smith-family.com

    by hannah on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 02:27:40 AM PDT

  •  Good job on all those specifics. (11+ / 0-)

    I suggest submitting his e-mail and your rebuttal of it to your local paper. Tone it down -- just the facts -- leaving off your terrific editorial slams, and expose that liar for all to see.

    Being the single intellectual in a village of 1,100 souls ain't much fun, especially when 1,099 of those don't think you're all that smart.--Lucy Marsden

    by Miniaussiefan on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 02:33:23 AM PDT

  •  I see Kirk's flirtation with empathy after... (11+ / 0-)

    his recent health scare was fleeting at best.

    It's like these people take an oath to publicly swear -- black is white and up is down -- just in order to become a member of the GOP.

    "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." - 17th-century French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu.

    by markthshark on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 02:47:55 AM PDT

  •  But did you contact a good reporter? (4+ / 0-)
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    tobendaro, Naniboujou, TofG, CoyoteMarti

    I appreciate reading your research but preaching to the crowd doesn't do a lot of good. There are plenty of reporters left.

    And from whom, exactly, did the email come? If signed by Kirk, he's in hot water.

    Don't talk to the Kos community solely; talk to the world.

    •  It came from mark_kirk@enews.senate.gov (2+ / 0-)
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      Naniboujou, OleHippieChick

      VIA the Senate infrastructure servers.  I tracked back the entire header just to be certain it wasn't a spoof and someone trying to bad-mouth the Senator.  But it's him alright, and he has bad-mouthed himself quite well enough.

      Besides, remember where we are down here in Nowhere??

      NO, there aren't any reporters.  No money to pay 'em with.  No jobs, not much of anything but farms and orchards.  A few really nice wineries, but that's about it.

      Hunring, yes.   Fishing, sure.  

      Jobs?  Nope.  

      The newspapers are dying out, nobody can afford the two bucks a week for five sheets and some slick ads. (Ten sheets on Sunday, with the comics and the real estate sections.)

      The radio and tv?  All "Fox" and "ClearChannel."  Heck, Gush LimpBoy was BORN in Cape Girardeau, MO, less than an hour's drive from here.

      No chance anyone will listen.  We can't afford to buy them or their votes in Congress (Springfield OR D.C.)

      I only post here and one other place just to let off enough steam that my blood pressure doesn't get too high.  I NEVER expect anything to get better.

      That would be foolish and a waste of effort, even just thinking it.

      It's the dead-end of the whole state.  The rich folks in the North end get the gold mine.  We've got the shafts, all over the place, and they're either worked out or full of sulfur and uselesss to anyone.  It's the pits, too.  Strip pits.  Huge holes in the ground surrounded by tailings piles that the coal companies SWORE they would put back as good as new when they got the permits to dig.

      And those promises and two bucks will probably get me a cup of coffee at the local convenience mart.  IF they price hasn't gone up again.

      •  Yes, there are reporters (5+ / 0-)

        Even the national networks will pick it up, because Kirk is using YOUR tax dollars to spread lies.

        The attitude you write about is why we have so many GOP state governments. Trust me, I know. I live in Northern Michigan which is nearly that poor. People vote against their own self-interest, because they think it might get them up a rung in the ladder--to the level of the tenement renter or junk dealer down the street, who is "rich."

        Take your excellent diary and copy it to half a dozen good news agencies or decent reporters. I bet you get a response.

        Read "Deer Hunting with Jesus." It explains a lot why dirt poor areas go GOP.

  •  This diary is unreadble (4+ / 0-)
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    allergywoman, IL clb, FiredUpInCA, Delevie

    I appreciate your trying to debunk some of the anti-ACA nonsense, but you need to learn how to edit a piece so that people can read it and make sense of it.  Stream-of-consciousness writing has no place on a policy-oriented political site.  

    One point jumps out at me, though.  Regardless of how much the father is paying this year compared to last year, he should be grateful and thankful for the knowledge that his son, who has already developed a medical problem as a young boy, will never in his life have to cope with denials because of his medical history.   People with congenital and chronic conditions are among the biggest winners from the ACA.

  •  political machine (2+ / 0-)
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    kerflooey, CoyoteMarti

    there is really no defense for the bizzare political machine that is Chicago. But, if it wasn't for the great metropolis we might not be a blue state. It is the southern and western part of the state that votes republican, continuously.

    you get what you give

    by chicagobleu on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 08:39:59 AM PDT

  •  Could you provide a link to Juvenile Diabetes (2+ / 0-)
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    FiredUpInCA, CoyoteMarti

    assistance in Illinois?

    I can't seem to find anything on it.

    CHIP is available, but only for families making less than $67,000.
    Also, one thing I think you are mistaken on:

    $6,000 is about the top out-of-pocket amount for an individual.  It is double that for a family, but it can be less on higher priced plans.  One way or another, under ACA you pay for it in premiums or deductibles if you do not qualify for subsidies.

    All that said.. this guy's story doesn't sound kosher to me either.  There should be some way to reduce those costs.

  •  I don't need to comment on the.... (2+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, Radiowalla

    gist of this diary since the diarist spelled things out quite well.

    But I'll go just a bit off-topic instead.  

    Mark Kirk, some'll likely recall, had a stroke a while back.  It took about a year for him to actually return to duty in the Senate.

    During that time he collected the same pay and his job was waiting for his return. Would folks like us be treated the same way?

    And this guy is telling us that Obamacare is bad for us?

    To try to be fair, I'll admit that it's not Kirk's fault that he was treated so much better than the rest of us would have been. He simply got himself into a great job. And the same thing might have happened to, say, Dick Durbin.

    But at least Durbin wouldn't collect on a huge benefit like that and then turn around and try to convince us that the comparatively meager amount we've gained with the ACA is actually some plot to impoverish us.

  •  Loads better than your last diary (0+ / 0-)

    I suspect he is indeed telling the story of a father making $250,000 a year or more, as you suggested.  Good work.

    The Stars and Bars and the red swastika banner are both offerings to the same barbaric god.

    by amyzex on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 11:48:28 AM PDT

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