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Following the talks between Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, the Russians have pulled back from the border with Ukraine. Dmitry Tymchuk, a military analyst who blogs for the Kiev Post and who gives first hand information about the location of Russian troops, reports on today's post that there are now only 10,000 Russian troops on the border. The Ukraine government had said that Russian troop levels were at nearly 100,000 in the past.

For the first time since the intrusion we breathed a little calmer. Not only is Moscow strongly insisting that it has no intention of invading Ukraine. But it really moved some of its units away from the border.

Was this the result of Putin’s notorious conversation with Obama? I don’t know.

As of this morning, we noted that on our very border remain 10,000 Russian military personnel. This is not a reason to relax: considerable enemy forces are capable of entering the territority of Ukraine from the midst of the Russian Federation in a matter of hours.

Moreover, the “withdrawal of troops” represents constant maneuvers. The military bases and units are moving along the border, and keep approaching it and moving away from it. Therefore, if tonight there is not too many Russian military by our border, tomorrow there might be more of them than within the past month.

But in any case, we have detected the lowest concentration of [Russian] troops. And that’s something.

Tymchuk also reports that Belarus, an ally of Russia, has ruled out allowing Russia to use their territory as a springboard for an invasion. Depends on whether you believe Lukashenko.

Belarus will not be the springboard for the invasion of Ukraine.

This morning, during our update on the forces of the invader, we deliberately omitted the enemy troops stationed in Belarus. It was done after our consultations with Ukrainian government agencies.

Later, [acting President Oleksandr] Turchynov, after his meeting with the President of Belarus [Alexander] Lukashenko, officially confirmed this information. Belarus is insisting there will be no invasion from its territory.

We don’t mind, but we will not stop monitoring the situation. It is hard to believe Lukashenko, who previously recognized the annexation of Crimea.

A few hours ago, I posted about an NBC News story in which they saw few signs of an impending invasion and suggested that it was blown out of proportion. The article, however, was incomplete. The reporter only went from Kursk east when much of Russia's troop strength was concentrated in Klimovskiy, directly north of Kiev. This was based on the supposition that Russia was planning to peel away a corridor for Crimea and link up with Transnitria in Moldavia. The reporter drove along the roads; however, tanks and artillery could have easily been concealed in the wooded areas or fields. However, it did make the point that the Russia-Ukraine border is completely porous in some areas. In other words, if Russia had really wanted to launch an all-out invasion of Ukraine, they could have done so already. Russia has a clear military superiority to Ukraine given that Obama has ruled out the use of the American military.

Today, Kerry and Lavrov met for four hours regarding Ukraine. While no deals were signed, they agreed in principle on a few things.

But both nations support diplomatic solutions and “meeting the needs of the Ukrainian population,” Kerry said.

Lavrov said at a separate briefing that the discussion was “very, very constructive” and that he and Kerry agreed to work with the Ukrainian government to improve rights for Russian-speaking Ukrainians and disarm “irregular forces and provocateurs.

But Ukraine angrily rejected a plan to turn it into a federated state.
“The ultimatum and the didactic tone of these statements demonstrate that as the real aggressor Russia does not accept any control over its own behavior. Under the barrels of its machine guns, this aggressor demands only one thing — the complete capitulation of Ukraine, its dismemberment, and the destruction of Ukrainian statehood. Russia’s proposals for federalization, a second official language, and referendums are viewed in Ukraine as nothing less than proof of Russia’s aggression. We sincerely regret that Minister Sergei Lavrov had to voice them.

"We would like to propose to the Russian side that before issuing ultimatums to a sovereign and independent state, it turn its attention to the disastrous conditions and complete powerlessness of its own national minorities, including the Ukrainian one. Why does not Russia give substance to the federalism which, incidentally, is in its official name and which remains a meaningless, declarative concept?

"Why not give additional powers to the national subjects of the federation, whose development is being suppressed today as harshly as during the tsarist and Soviet times? Why not introduce other official languages aside from Russian — languages spoken by millions of Russian citizens? Why not hold referendums on broad autonomy and, if necessary, the independence of the subjects of the Russian Federation?

And Pro-Russian demonstrators are making new demands. Specifically, they are demanding to break away from Ukraine and form their own autonomous region in what is now southeast Ukraine.
Demonstrators at a pro-Russian rally in central Kharkov on Sunday called for the establishment of an autonomous republic consisting of southeastern Ukrainian provinces. The meetings in Kharkov were followed by big Ukrainian cities such as Dotetsk, Odessa and Lugansk. The demonstrators urged the southeastern Ukrainian provinces to unite against Kiev.

"We are the successors of the republics of Donetsk-Krovoy Rog and Odessa. We are not the surviving remnants of the Bandera forces. We have been and will be the pillar of our country," Yuri Apukhtin, a Civic Forum leader, told the demonstrators.

He urged the southeastern provinces to unite, create a coordination committee and campaign against the Kiev putschists in a single front.

"We see our place in Ukraine in a historically-shaped southeastern autonomy," Apukhtin said.

The tactics of the demonstrators are clear -- bait the Ukrainians into repressing these demonstrations with great brutality. For Russia, that will "prove" massive human rights violations against ethnic Russians and "force" Putin to "defend" them. And Supreme NATO Commander Phillip Breedlove did an about-face and returned to Europe instead of giving testimony in Washington due to the tensions.
The head of the U.S. military's European Command was sent back to Europe prematurely from Washington amid growing tensions in the Ukraine, a Pentagon official said Sunday.
Hagel considered the decision a “prudent” one since Russian leadership has been cryptic about their intentions of military movements across the Ukrainian border, the spokesman said.
While the Russians have pulled back from the border, tensions continue to remain high.
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  •  If this is true, it's very heartening. (8+ / 0-)

    Massing troops on another nation's border is more often than not a prelude to war.

    Dick Cheney 2/14/10: "I was a big supporter of waterboarding"

    by Bob Love on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 08:27:37 PM PDT

  •  I think the US and Russia (12+ / 0-)

    will split the baby. Russia gets Crimea, the IMF gets the Ukraine. Done deal.

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 08:29:23 PM PDT

  •  Who will be the first Republican... (14+ / 0-)

    to claim that the administration is cooking the books concerning the number of Russian troops?


  •  maneuver warfare at work but hopefully (5+ / 0-)
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    Eternal Hope, duhban, elwior, Lawrence, amyzex

    a reduction in tensions for now....

    Secondly, we have not yet observed the Ukrainian government’s truly remarkable plan to modernize the economy. Because taking out credit in lieu of investments into the future is the doorway to the abyss. And we have been walking that path inconceivably long.

    As for the defense industry itself, today it became known that Ukraine’s state concern “Ukroboronprom” stopped supplying weapons to the Russian Federation.

    Finally. Because it looked as if we were going to help Moscow invade us by supplying it with weapons. So, step-by-step, the Kyivan theater of the absurd around Putin’s invasion finally resembles an adequate response. God willing!

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 08:38:29 PM PDT

  •  Repatriation (10+ / 0-)

    The pro-Russian demonstrator quoted here is telling the truth: "We are the successors of the republics of Donetsk-Krovoy Rog and Odessa..."

    It's clear that the overwhelming opinion in the world is to support the western powers regardless of the coup in Kiev or the will to self-determination that won in Crimea and would win in Russian regions. Selective sovereignty means what it sounds like - it's not the principle at hand, it's the military and economic advantage for your side that is consistently labeled the right side of history. Kosovo - good, Crimea bad. Kurdistan - no way, Tibet - for sure.

    The alarmist propaganda emanating from Kiev and NATO convinced even Correa in Ecuador - himself perhaps worried about renascent separatist activity in Ecuador sponsored by the very indigenous peoples who brought him to power.

    Americans sit in their living rooms worried about Russian invasions while their own armies occupied (well, still occupy more or less) Iraq and Afghanistan - not to mention have military bases throughout Europe, the Islamic crescent and across the territory claimed by the Japanese empire.

    The story of an enormous Russian military build-up was a fabrication used to increase international tension sufficiently to take attention and support away from the rest of Ukraine that would like nothing more than to be repatriated to Russia. The break-up of Ukraine, begun by anti-government agitators rioting in Kiev, was halted, superseded by the threat from the west that further secessionist successes in the Ukraine would inevitably lead to military and economic conflict between Russia and NATO in the Donbas. More than protecting the territorial integrity of Ukraine - the goal of western propaganda is to legitimatize continued control of the most economically viable regions in the Slav lands currently under the control of Kiev.

    •  we get it (2+ / 0-)
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      nachtwulf, TofG

      it's Obama's fault and America is a horrible nation

      Der Weg ist das Ziel

      by duhban on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 09:24:39 PM PDT

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    •  I'm fine with referendums. (5+ / 0-)

      But they must be done freely and fairly, with ample opportunity for all sides to debate the issues and with monitors in place to ensure that they are fair. There were many problems with Crimea's referendum. There was voter intimidation in the form of soldiers and "self-defense" forces in the streets. There has been massive human rights violations against the Tatars, including marking their houses with crosses like Stalin did. One activist was tortured and killed and his body was only found two weeks later. It was called with two weeks notice, hardly time for sides to debate. And there was no option to vote to continue as part of Ukraine.

      The Russian buildup was fact, as proven by numerous photos posted by Interpreter Magazine, including numerous videos and pictures of tanks and other military equipment moving into place around the Russia-Ukraine border. I don't buy that they are going to invade, but Russia was clearly engaging in a show of force to influence events in Kiev.

      "The cost of liberty is less than the price of repression." - W.E.B. Du Bois Be informed. Fight the Police State.

      by Eternal Hope on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 09:27:39 PM PDT

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    •  From the diary: (11+ / 0-)
      The tactics of the demonstrators are clear -- bait the Ukrainians into repressing these demonstrations with great brutality.
      LOL, that's was the PRECISE tactic in Kiev, yet somehow those western Ukrainians must be "freedom fighters" whereas the Easter Ukrainians are "Pro-Russian" and therefore "bad"...  In face we can IGNORE them - The western Ukrainian coup CANCELLED the last election result, disenfranchising the will of the eastern cities, but somehow they are "bad" but the unelected coup government now in Kiev are "real democrats"...

      Bunch of 1984 style doublespeak...  and many on the left are poisoned with this reflexive cold-war style of thinking.  Sad.  

      •  Indeed, the geopolitics are pathetic (8+ / 0-)

        …and repeated so often (yay Libya and Egypt) that I'm always amazed USians fall fof their own propaganda again and again. The game is what it is -- but could we have some intellectual dignity as we speak amongst ourselves?

        The tactics of the demonstrators are clear -- bait the Ukrainians into repressing these demonstrations with great brutality. For Russia, that will "prove" massive human rights violations against ethnic Russians and "force" Putin to "defend" them.
        Now that worked really well in Libya and allowed NATO to have a Holy War and destroy that nation from the air. (Liberating weapons sent to Syria to do the same.)

        But, personally, I believe Ukraine is a wild card -- with people of a very different temperament that the usual nations we RickRoll. The toppling of the democratically elected government of the Ukraine (which is more or less as corrupt as any other government in that region) was fine. It's what the IMF paid for and they are about to pour $18 billion into the Ukraine, once that set the people up to be starved via austerity.

        But there was one big mistake made that screwed everything up. Indeed, one sentence uttered the next day by the victor that changed the entire destiny of the region and put Crimea and the entire Ukraine into play.

        "Russian will no longer be spoken in the Ukraine."

        What is going to happen is that eastern Ukraine will have a vote for self determination and autonomy and independence -- which is a human right throughout the world. It will occur through dogged work and relentless persistence. No protests are necessary. The local people are solid and aligned. And that election day will come. And the entire world will be there, observing.

        And this is where it get's humorous:

        Russia does not want Eastern Ukraine. Russia would like it to remain neutral and not be used to build silos of death pointing at Moscow. But it definitely does not want to absorb it in any way. It is way too fucked up and expensive.

      •  Oh noez! The corrupt president who stole (2+ / 0-)
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        billions from the country, ordered special interior forces snipers to fire on protesters, was a Ukrainian version of John Gotti, and wanted to make protesting illegal was forced out of office by millions who took to the streets.

        Quelle Surprise!  Quelle Horreure!

        Would you have supported Nixon as he was on his way out?

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 01:03:25 AM PDT

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        •  Which president was that? I don't think they ever (1+ / 0-)
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          had a president/prime minister who didn't stuff his/her pockets/purse since 1991.

          The oligarchs simply jumped ship (again) like the pack of rats they are.

          Putin is going to sit back and watch the Ukraine become Greece. He doesn't like to shear pigs. Too much squeal and not enough wool. He got what he wanted - Crimea back. Europe can keep the pig.  

    •  Another Putin apologist weighs in. U.S and NATO (0+ / 0-)

      evil, Putin good.

      •  Well ... (0+ / 0-)

        Casting the events in Crimea and the Ukraine as 'good' v. 'evil' misses the complex mix of 'good' and 'evil' actions on all sides, and  from all perspectives.

        I don't think that I would call Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin a particularly good man. Perhaps not one at all. I do think that Barack Obama is a good man, but there are many actions taken under his signature that I think are intrinsically evil, recognizing that my designation of evil is mine and that of folks of like mind. Good and Evil are present and possible in the whole range of human activity. When the complex nature of human activity is replaced by single, opposing poles, the result is violent.

        All of the actors and their actions in the theatre of international relations should be thought of in their historical context. This form of analysis opens up the historian or political scientist. Putin's actions are not mere evil, nor merely a land grab, (however much it might actually be); They proceed logically from the Russian national psyche born of the loss of twenty million lives in the Great Patriotic War and millions more lives lost in the displacement of ethnic groups, forced collectivization and the gulag empire of Stalin. They proceed from a national recovery of identity following the collapse of the stagnated regime in the Kremlin, and a resentment for the carpetbagger wildcat capitalist stampede to oligarchy that is generally attributed to the Chicago School hard reboot of the Soviet economy.

    •  How do you figure (0+ / 0-)

      we still occupy Iraq?

      The Stars and Bars and the red swastika banner are both offerings to the same barbaric god.

      by amyzex on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 11:02:23 AM PDT

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      •  You have to get with the program (2+ / 0-)
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        The US has privatized War, Inc. The US troops may have left Iraq but the contractors didn't. There have been thousands in the country since. Now there's going to be more. They operate a lot of the military equipment left behind as well as new drones.

        Role of U.S. Contractors Grows as Iraq Fights Insurgents
        Feb. 3, 2014

        WASHINGTON—Hundreds of contractors working for America's biggest defense companies are taking on a broader role in helping Iraq's military learn to use new weapons in a growing battle against Islamist insurgents.

        Over the next few months, the U.S. government is expected to begin sending more than $6 billion in military equipment to Iraq. The latest deal includes 24 Apache attack helicopters made by Boeing Co and nearly 500 Hellfire missiles produced by Lockheed Martin Corp.
        Still, contractors serve in dangerous areas. In Afghanistan, more civilian contractors were being killed than U.S. soldiers by 2012, according to an analysis by Steven Schooner, a professor at George Washington University Law School. Now, he said, the traditional U.S. military role has been supplanted by civilians who are training and equipping the Iraqi military.

        "The military task has, in fact, been outsourced in Iraq," he said.

        The U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq in 2011 brought the war to an official end. But the U.S. still retains a large presence at the embassy in Baghdad, which is still one of the biggest American diplomatic facilities in the world.

        Over the past few years, the U.S. has been scaling back its presence in Iraq, and even the contractor force has dwindled.

        As of January 2013, the U.S. had more than 12,500 contractors in Iraq, according to State Department and Pentagon figures. The U.S. has significantly reduced that number over the past year.

  •  How is Tymchuk counting Russian deployments? (1+ / 0-)
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    I assume someone is giving him that information, but the front is wide and deep and as he points out the Russians are flowing forces to and from the major points of contact.

    •  He runs a think tank. (6+ / 0-)

      From the Kiev Post:

      To counter Russian propaganda lies about the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine's Crimean peninsula on Feb. 27, Dmitry Tymchuk has set up the Center of Military and Political Research in Kyiv. He served in the Army air defense from 1995-1998, the National Guard from 1998-2000 and in the Defense Ministry in subsequent years on missions to Iraq, Lebanon and Kosovo. His blogs are translated into English by Voices of Ukraine.
      Tymchuk talks with government sources regularly that monitor these developments.

      "The cost of liberty is less than the price of repression." - W.E.B. Du Bois Be informed. Fight the Police State.

      by Eternal Hope on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 09:18:03 PM PDT

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  •  as long as Russia is cycling troops (3+ / 0-)
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    I will remain nervous. Moving troops around is still the act of possible invasion and certainly one of belligerence.

    Der Weg ist das Ziel

    by duhban on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 09:20:09 PM PDT

  •  With every day that passes it becomes more (2+ / 0-)
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    difficult for Russia to successfully invade Ukraine.

    Ukraine is slowly but surely mobilizing its military, getting it into better shape, and shifting it from the west to the east.  There also seems to be a huge wave of patriotism sweeping the nation in response to Putin's Crimea land grab.

    Furthermore, many Russian "tourists", including Russian Neo-Nazis and members of Russian state security forces intent on sowing discord in Ukraine are being arrested.

    Ukraine is not tiny Georgia and Russia faces an increasingly difficult task if it wants to invade mainland Ukraine.

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 11:49:04 PM PDT

  •  Dmitry Tymchuk - Ukranian neocon (0+ / 0-)

    Who does he remind you of?

    Dmitry Tymchuk's military blog: Threat recedes of imminent Russian military invasion

    3. “South-East,” a new civil movement, was announced at a Kharkiv rally in support of the federalization of Ukraine. The movement includes 30 community organizations located in the city of Kharkiv. Negotiations to “join forces” with Luhansk and Donetsk are currently under way.

    On the one hand, there is little good in the separatists fussing around. On the other hand, we should let them congregate: it will be easier to sort them out into prison cells.

    Dmitry Tymchuk's military blog: Ukrainians not getting truth from their leaders

    Brothers and sisters! Here is the summary for March 27

    The bad news:

    1. No one in the Ukrainian Presidential Administration seems to see any threat from Russia point-blank. Today, Serhiy Pashynskiy, acting head of the Presidential Administration, came out with a rather confusing speech, the conclusion of which was – all reports about a possible attack on the Ukrainian territory in the next few days are “an information attack” of the Kremlin.

    Mr. Pashinskiy believes that anyone talking about the possible invasion are Moscow’s “fifth column.” Based on that, this term should also include me and my colleagues, as well as the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, and even the U.S. intelligence community. Alternatively, this has a hint of schizophrenia.

    More of his writing here.
    Dmitry Tymchuk's military blog
  •  Cowgirl battalion will protect Ukraine from Russia (0+ / 0-)

  •  that Ukranian rejection (1+ / 0-)
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    doesn't sit well with me.

    Leaving aside the fact of who's "right" or "wrong" and how pissed they must be etc..etc...

    that kind of reaction is wrong on many levels.

    Pointing out that Russia is no democratic multicultural heaven just to reject any notion that they could have or could do much better on many levels with regards to geo/demo issues within their borders doesn't help a bit.
    Not even a single word of reconciliation with their Russian descent countrymen.

    At least, be diplomatic damn it!

    "We consider you a part of Ukraine and we will do the utmost to respect you, your language and heritage because all citizens have equal rights under the law."

    Is that so hard?

  •  There really are echoes of nazi ultimatums and (0+ / 0-)

    actions against Czechoslavakia/Sudetenland in Putin against Crimea/Ukraine. Not saying identical, but frightening analogues.

    •  It's always WWII when it come to demonizing the (2+ / 0-)
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      I thought Georgia was the Sudetenland and Bush II the Neville Chamberlain?

      With Crimea now being the new Sudetenland does this also make Obama the new Chamberlain?

      I find it interesting when people here compare Putin to Hitler and call him a Nazi. Russians killed ten times as many Nazis during WWII as the Allies did.

      Russia has long banned neo-nazi parties unlike the US where you can find shit like this going on.

      Of course, when the US allows these groups it's "free speech". But if another country tolerates them, then they are labelled nazi supporters.

      Putin may be a hard-nosed prick but he certainly is no nazi. BTW, the US is full of hard-nosed pricks. You will find them running American banks and corporations.

    •   Russia --with a GDP of only $2 Trillion-- is NOT (1+ / 0-)
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       going to mount war of conquest against
       a NATO backed by the $17 Trillion GDP of USA and the $17 Trillion GDP of the EU.

      Plus George Friedman, founder of US corporate intelligence firm STRATFOR, noted in "The Next 100 years" that Russia is facing a demographic crash-- that her population may decline from today's 145 million to as little as 90 million in 2050.

       Compare Russia's population density of 21.5 /sq mile to that of western Europe and it is pretty clear who
       is going to press for more Lebensraum in the coming decades.  

      The Sudetenland analogies reflect ignorance of the fact that Germany invaded Russia -- Russia didn't invade Germany --in the 1940s.

      Sometimes I think Ward Churchill had a point with his Little Eichmanns observation.   Last time I checked, Putin had not killed 500,000 children in Crimea with sanctions.

      But while the US justice system ferociously defends the right of corporations to buy the US Congress, it confessed itself unable to rule on the justice of a "university" breaking a contract with a tenured professor.

  •  NBC News - International hype unfounded (1+ / 0-)
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    Tour of Ukraine-Russia Border Finds No Signs of Military Buildup

    All is not quiet on the Western Front, but the drumbeat of war along the long Ukraine-Russian border is nowhere near as loud as it sounds in Moscow.

    According to dire warnings from U.S. military and intelligence officials, Russian President Vladimir Putin, fresh from his daring annexation of Ukraine’s strategic Crimean Peninsula, has concentrated tens of thousands of his forces on the border with Ukraine. Camouflaged and concealed to throw off U.S. spy satellites, the warnings say, the heavily armed combat troops and special operations forces are coiled and ready to spring across the border into restive regions of Eastern and Southern Ukraine such as Kharkov and Donetsk, where pro-Russian populations are eager to be annexed by Russia, just like Crimea.

    Top Russian officials – including Putin himself – have denied any such troop concentrations near the Western border. One minor Ministry of Defense official, who didn’t want to be named because he wasn’t authorized to comment, told NBC News that there had been training exercises – war games – in the border region but, once ended, those troops and armor returned to their bases. “All of this international hype is completely unfounded,” he told us earlier in the week.

  •  Russia has no more right to rewrite (0+ / 0-)

    the Ukrainian Constitution than we have to rewrite the Iranian Constitution.  But if they have reduced the number of troops on Ukraine's border, that's progress.

    The Stars and Bars and the red swastika banner are both offerings to the same barbaric god.

    by amyzex on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 11:00:18 AM PDT

  •  When you say (0+ / 0-)
    Russia has a clear military superiority to Ukraine given that Obama has ruled out the use of the American military.
    you seem to suggest that the US would have a local unilateral military superiority if only it would exercise it.

    Do you really mean that?

    Play chess for the Kossacks on Join the site, then the group at

    by rhutcheson on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:03:27 PM PDT

    •  I'm not saying he should. (0+ / 0-)

      Obama has to respect the wishes of the American people. This is not our fight as far as our military forces are concerned.

      "The cost of liberty is less than the price of repression." - W.E.B. Du Bois Be informed. Fight the Police State.

      by Eternal Hope on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:43:25 PM PDT

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      •  The US, even NATO, have no chance (0+ / 0-)

        of prevailing in a military confrontation in Ukraine.

        Your phrasing suggests that the geography is Obama's fault.

        Play chess for the Kossacks on Join the site, then the group at

        by rhutcheson on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 12:53:52 PM PDT

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