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As I wandered my lame single butt over to OkCupid this fine evening via Mozilla Firefox, I was greeted by a message on the main page which began:

"Hello, Mozilla Firefox user. Pardon this interruption of your OkCupid experience.

Mozilla's new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples. We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access OkCupid."

Full text of the greeting at TechCrunch:

http://techcrunch.com/...

As part of the greeting, they provide links to IE, Chrome and Opera to encourage users to switch browsers. A full-on call for lovers of equality to jump ship on Mozilla. I'm loving it!

A household-name website with tens of millions active users and about a million log-ins a day just called your sh*t, Eich.

Your move, Mozilla. Your move.

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  •  Eich's nopology (12+ / 0-)

    Here's his blog post on the matter:

    https://brendaneich.com/...

    He expresses "sorrow for having caused pain".

    However, he makes it clear he wants to be judged by his performance as CEO. He makes no attempt at explaining his donation nor does he acknowledge in any way that donation represented an act of homophobia.

    KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

    by fcvaguy on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 09:53:52 PM PDT

  •  Here, there, everywhere (7+ / 0-)
    I am committed to ensuring that Mozilla is, and will remain, a place that includes and supports everyone, regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, age, race, ethnicity, economic status, or religion.
    But in the outside world, I am committed to ensuring you are totally fucked.  
  •  Isn't Firefox free? (2+ / 0-)
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    WakeUpNeo, Rogneid

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Mon Mar 31, 2014 at 11:19:08 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for this (4+ / 0-)
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    WakeUpNeo, Rogneid, Deep Texan, Tonedevil

    Great initiative by OKCupid to expose the homophobes.

    I have Firefox installed, but rarely use it. Surprised to see that at the time of this comment, I am the sole vote for Opera (currently, the poll has 44 votes).

    Paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. You step out of line, the man come and take you away. - S. Stills

    by ask on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 01:22:51 AM PDT

  •  Well, hell. Almost wish I didn't know this now. (4+ / 0-)
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    Rogneid, Tonedevil, unfangus, ntonlion

    I've used Mozilla software from back in the stone ages and still do. It's running on my Mac as I type this. It's going to be hard to justify supporting Mozilla with this Eich dude running the show.

    I've spent years fine-tuning FF into a useful tool for web browsing, but if I can avoid the likes of Chick-fil-A, Cracker Barrel, etc., I can do the same with Mozilla. The problem is that I detest the Google Empire and attempt to not give them money and/or information ...in that order. I understand Opera is now based on Google Chrome, so they are out. On a Mac, that leaves Safari - which is okay, even though I don't like how they handle bookmarks and a few other things - and maybe iCab. I doubt I would use iCab for secure business purposes, though.

    The solution is obviously for Eich to vacate the CEO position so we do not have to boycott Mozilla software. However, until he is gone, I'm starting - right now - to examine my options and use something else. Luckily, Firefox is the only Mozilla software on my machine.

  •  According to the WSJ, 3 members (5+ / 0-)

    immediately resigned from Mozilla's board upon news of Eich's hiring. His days may be numbered for a variety of reasons. He looks like a slightly hipper version of Ken Starr. What is it about conservative men that makes them look like lifelong mama's boys, with pasty faces and chubby cheeks. Do they not get enough vitamin D? No idea, but apparently they don't get enough sex because they sure are obsessed with everyone else's sex lives.

  •  Time for me to be unpopular again...*sigh*... (4+ / 0-)
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    UntimelyRippd, blw, cjtjc, ntonlion

    So, let me get this straight:

    a) Almost everyone here agrees that corporations should not force their religious/political views on employees. (e.g. Hobby Lobby)

    b) Almost everyone here agrees that corporations which make contributions to political causes with corporate money are legitimate targets for criciticsm, boycott, etc. (e.g. Chik-Fil-A)

    c) Almost everyone here agrees that the acts/opinions of individuals, including what they do with personal money, are distinct from those of their employers. (e.g. defending folks who were were pressured by their employers to vote for or donate to particular candidates or causes.)

    Now, here's a guy who DIDN'T use his corporation's money to fund a political cause, but made a PERSONAL donation just like anyone else who donates to a political campaign...and didn't even hold his current job when he made the donation...and you want to hold his current employer responsible for that individual political activity?

    My Hypocrisy Meter just pegged.

    If what an individual does on their own time with their own politics and their own money is not the employer's business, then this suggested boycott of Mozilla makes no sense.

    If we want the corporate world to remain distinct from the individual world, that position MUST be applied consistently. If Hobby Lobby shouldn't be allowed to influence (or dictate) the private decisions of their employees, then it makes no sense for us to expect/demand that Mozilla influence (or dictate) the private decisions of its employees.

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 07:12:25 AM PDT

    •  It's not really equivalent though. (1+ / 0-)
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      Tonedevil

      Right and wrong matters.

      It's objectively wrong to try to deny basic civil rights to gay people. Prop 8 was nothing but bigotry, and supporting Prop 8 makes someone a bigot. It's not a nice word and it's not a nice sentiment to have to express, but it's true.

      This isn't a difference of opinion where everybody has an equally worthy position that should be respected. It's as simple as bigotry versus equality.

      Would you defend Mozilla's continued employment of this man if he was a member of a white supremacist group, but didn't ever discuss it at work or otherwise bring it into the workplace? This really isn't any different.

      •  I would neither defend nor condemn. (0+ / 0-)

        It's their choice, but they run the risk of being viewed in a negative light if he is involved in hostile activities that become public. He should also be watched closely to ensure that his bias is never demonstrated in the workplace, and if it was legal action would immediately ensue. If he was committed to his group's cause, it wouldn't take long for that to happen. However, if he wasn't, he would probably be ostracized from the group after allowing people his group was against were allowed to advance in the company.

      •  Agreed. I think the differentiation point (1+ / 0-)
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        ChuckChuckerson

        is with a leadership role. To me a Hobby Lobby employee who wants birth control is quite different from the CEO, a very visible role for an organization, being openly homophobic.

        It's also important to remember that OkCupid didn't deny Firefox users access to their site. They merely presented their feelings on the matter, offered ideas for other browsers, and provided a link at the bottom for Firefox users to bypass the message.

        •  Oh, well, THAT'S different... (0+ / 0-)

          ...not.

          Employees are employees. Introducing some arbitrary distinction for "leadership roles" is unnecessary and unworkable.

          Will you track down everyone who ever donated money to David Duke and demand their terminations as well IF they hold a suitably high "leadership role" with some business? There's a fair argument that most Duke donors are racists, but you'll only punish the ones who have risen to a certain level, right?

          Where does one draw that "leadership" line, anyway? Are you suggesting that, while a CEO should be fired for such things, a regional VP or district manager should not?

          Does a demotion count? If they bump a bigot from CEO to Division VP with no public-facing duties, he's still a bigot, right?

          Seriously, you're making a distinction without a difference.

          The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

          by wesmorgan1 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 05:09:11 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  You're right. (0+ / 0-)

            I admit I must agree with your points-- thank you for your reponse. However, your tone is all sorts of condescending. Please consider that in your future replies both to me and to others. I don't mind being called on shitty or underdeveloped ideas and opinions-- that affords me an opportunity for growth through further thought-- but it doesn't have to be done in such a scathing way. Thanks.

      •  So, you're prepared... (0+ / 0-)

        ...to go to any employer and demand that anyone whose political or social opinions you don't like (and this is really what it boils down to, right?) be fired immediately, even if those opinions have not entered the workplace?

        The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

        by wesmorgan1 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 04:48:23 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  But we aren't talking about ANY political (1+ / 0-)
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          nerafinator

          or social opinion. We aren't talking about something that I find personally objectionable but otherwise is worthy of consideration by reasonable people.

          What we ARE talking about is a person that holds the destructive and objectively wrong opinion that certain American citizens are not worthy of equal protection under the law because of who they love.

          And yes, I am prepared to go to ANY employer that knowingly employs someone that is politically active as a bigot and inform them that I will not use their product and that I will encourage anyone I know to not use their product.

  •  I was sold on Firefox (0+ / 0-)

    but now I will start learning more about Chrome.

    •  I'm not so sure (0+ / 0-)

      It's a good browser in terms of functionality, but I'm starting to wonder if I should be pulling away from the Googleplex more. I wonder if there are others feeling similarly.

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