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Last night, Bill Maher closed with a New Rule explaining just why right-wing radio is so abundant.

The fact is, today's Republicans aren't built to governing.  They don't want to go to the Moon, they want to howl at it.  That's why just the fact of getting elected means you're already damaged goods.  Unless you go to Washington and act like the single biggest prick in the room every time, you're suspect.  Which is why there's really only one man currently in government who the base completely trusts.  I'm talking, of course, about Ted Cruz.

He's the guy who best understands that high office is just a higher form of talk radio.  Every other Republican is suspect in some way.  Rick Perry told them they should have a heart.  Eww.  Mitch McConnell holds a gun like a girl.  And Marco Rubio is pretty soft on Mexicans for an Italian.  (audience laughter)  John McCain is against torture, and he was tortured, flip-flopper!  (audience laughter)  Chris Christie actually touched Obama during Hurricane Sandy, when he should have lured him to the Pine Barrens and hit him with a shovel.  (audience laughter)  And Michele Bachmann compromised on gays by marrying her husband.

Video and full transcript below the fold.


And finally, New Rule: Tea Party people have to explain something to me.  I know you can't stand the unemployed, those takers who don't work.  But if you're the hard workers, why do you all have so much time to listen to talk radio in the middle of the day?  I mention this because last week brought the news that powerful Republican Congressman Mike Rogers was leaving the House to join an already long list of conservative radio hosts that includes Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, Michael Savage, Monica Crowley, Dennis Prager, Herman Cain, I could go on.

But who could blame you for thinking, "Geez, aren't there enough right-wing radio hosts as it is?"  No.  Never.  There are never enough!  Why?  Because the Tea Party always has room for one more voice in their heads.  (audience laughter and applause)

Now politicians have left elected office for TV and radio before, but it says a lot about Congress that someone as powerful as Mike Rogers is doing it.  He's the head of the House Intelligence Committee.  And he said about leaving his post, "Yes, it is an important position, but I think I'd like to try and move the needle on the debate."

Yeah right, because if there's one job where you can never effect policy, it's in the branch of government that writes policy.  The place for that is AM radio.  Because why continue in the proud tradition of Daniel Webster and Henry Clay, when you can follow in the footsteps of Bubba the Love Sponge?

It actually makes perfect sense because the GOP has kind of become talk radio — an echo chamber where people are not interested in actually legislating or compromising or fixing America, just in screeching about how liberals have ruined it.  So why not do it on the radio?  The money's better, and no one can see your toupeé.

And if your show's a hit, you get to put out one of those conservative books where you fold your arms on the cover.

Like you're trying to block a Mexican from coming over the border.  (audience laughter)

ANA MARIE COX: Or...!

MATT TAIBBI: Or you're Rob Lowe.

Or Rob Lowe, that's right.

ROB LOWE: Folded arms.

Truth is, there's never been a better time to quit government, and go into the lucrative business of bitching about government.  It worked for Joe Scarborough, and Mike Huckabee, and most famously of course, Sarah Palin.  The one night stand of Alaska governors.  When Sarah announced she was resigning as governor, she said:

SARAH PALIN (7/3/2009): It may be tempting to just keep your head down and plod along... but that's a quitter's way out.
Yes, only by quitting was she not quitting.  You see, Sarah realized she could have a greater effect on influencing stupidity from outside of government.  And pledged to work to elect people just like her.  Just not her.

The fact is, today's Republicans aren't built to governing.  They don't want to go to the Moon, they want to howl at it.  That's why just the fact of getting elected means you're already damaged goods.  Unless you go to Washington and act like the single biggest prick in the room every time, you're suspect.  Which is why there's really only one man currently in government who the base completely trusts.  I'm talking, of course, about Ted Cruz.

He's the guy who best understands that high office is just a higher form of talk radio.  Every other Republican is suspect in some way.  Rick Perry told them they should have a heart.  Eww.  Mitch McConnell holds a gun like a girl.  And Marco Rubio is pretty soft on Mexicans for an Italian.  (audience laughter)  John McCain is against torture, and he was tortured, flip-flopper!  (audience laughter)  Chris Christie actually touched Obama during Hurricane Sandy, when he should have lured him to the Pine Barrens and hit him with a shovel.  (audience laughter)  And Michele Bachmann compromised on gays by marrying her husband.  (raucous audience laughter)

Originally posted to BruinKid on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 05:30 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (148+ / 0-)
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  •  Also enabling the career of one Bill Maher ... (3+ / 0-)

    who has endless fodder to react to.

    Not that I don't agree with Bill or find Bill funny (though as comedians go I much prefer Colbert or Stewart).

    I just find his reactive approach of "Look! Another conservative said something crazy!" not particularly useful.

    •  Yeah, but he's right on one thing: (29+ / 0-)

      The GOTP has no interest in actually "governing" -- you know, the Old School kind of governing where you actually get stuff done that actually helps someone other than your donors?

      I was listening to Mark Levin on the way home last night (Tune in some time. The comedic possibilities are endless, as is the possibility that his head will actually explode during one of his rants), and Levin said, "A do-nothing Congress is the best we can hope for!" Apparently when things actually get done, it's always the liberals that win because government expands in some way; even when it shrinks in one place, it grows somewhere else, and that's just WRONG! It's WRONG! And as far as Levin is concerned, Congress needs MORE people like Carnival Cruz, not less!

      So while Bill can get lost in his vast sea of smugness and faux-libertarianism, on this subject he's spot-on.

      "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

      by Oliver Tiger on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 05:52:40 AM PDT

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      •  Sure, I don't disagree. Maher's just not (2+ / 0-)
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        particularly useful.

        •  Maher IS useful.... (19+ / 0-)

          unlike many, he put his money where his beliefs are and donated a cool million bucks to help Obama get elected.  And his show, popular with millenials, is one of the very few that takes square aim at the hypocrisy of the GOP.

          Bill Maher is one powerful weapon in our arsenal.  And he has influence among a wide array of politicians and hollywood stars, not to mention MSNBC pundits.  

          We need more, not fewer, Mahers to combat the Right Wing propaganda machine.

        •  His Use (3+ / 0-)
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          I know several men aged 60+ laugh with - and agree with - Maher. They were either "Reagan Democrats" or "Rockefeller Republicans" when they were younger, so they'd politically align with the Obama/Holder Democratic Party today, but like good Baby Boomers they dance to the tune coming over their radio - which is rightwing. They're kinda racists, now that they're too old to want to dance with women who aren't White.

          However, Maher is intellectually macho enough that they recognize him as a peer. And they laugh at his jokes. So they get his message. Which saves them from being rightwing dittoheads.

          That's his use.

          Also I find him funny. Until he runs across some of his own narrowmindedness ("libertarianism") and the funny evaporates. But most of the time he's funny, and he's nearly always correct when he's funny. So that's a use too.

          "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

          by DocGonzo on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 01:57:43 PM PDT

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          •  Hahahhahah ... you have won me over! (0+ / 0-)

            I will agree that Maher's use is to keep old, white Baby Boomers in the Democratic fold.

            I didn't say he was completely useless!

            I simply believe it's the rare case when Maher wins anyone over who doesn't already agree with him.

        •  bill is useful! (1+ / 0-)
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          Make no mistake, he can take us to places we never considered before and that't why he's very useful.

      •  Or even really that funny. (1+ / 0-)
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      •  I guess that means Mayor Emanuel (3+ / 0-)
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        The GOTP has no interest in actually "governing" -- you know, the Old School kind of governing where you actually get stuff done that actually helps someone other than your donors?
        So Mayor Emanuel is a repuglican?
        Why, you ask, would Emanuel refuse to relinquish some of the half-billion dollars a year that is going into his slush fund? Perhaps because he has been using it to enrich Chicago's corporate class, including some of his biggest campaign donors.

        For example, just after Emanuel took office, he used the slush fund to finance a $7 million subsidy that will benefit a grocery chain. The CEO of that chain's parent company gave Emanuel's campaign $25,000.

        Emanuel also delivered a $29 million subsidy to support a new skyscraper development plan. Opponents of the subsidy told CBS that the money is simply financing "a very expensive corporate plaza" for the building. Now here's the kicker: The building will house the new Chicago headquarters of a law firm whose employees have given Emanuel more than $125,000.

        http://www.nationofchange.org/...

        "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

        by Superpole on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:49:33 AM PDT

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      •  I'm surprised Mark Levin hasn't been (0+ / 0-)

        eaten alive by his own toxicity.  That man is awful.  He just makes stuff up as he goes along, and uses that low scary voice to scare the hell out of his listeners.  My sister and her boyfriend are two of those listeners who hang on his every word and carry around with them that special kind of hate and fear that's actually kind of scary.

        The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

        by AnnieR on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 03:16:58 PM PDT

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    •  But that's not what he said (15+ / 0-)

      He explained about the toxic relationship between right wing media and the republican party, something that the mainstream media (hello Chuck Todd, David Gregory, Wolf Blitzer) absolutely REFUSE to ever talk about.

      In fake "mainstream" news, both political parties still have the best interests of government at heart, they just have two different ways of getting there.

      But this is a total fraud.

      Right wing media empires and billionaires have taken over the republican party and are forcing it to break the government from within.

      This is THE most important political story of our time, one the "mainstream" media refuses to report on.

      So if satirists like Maher can point this out, how is this simply, as you say, a "reactive approach"?

      •  Well Dems are at it again.... (6+ / 0-)

        attack their friends as well as their enemies.  What kind of purity test does Maher have to pass to speak truth to power?  He has done more to bring to light the GOP's dirty tricks than many if not most of the so-called Leftwing bloggers and posters.

        To hell with pretty tests: Dems should be supporting those who publicly attack the Tea Party and the GOP.  Or risk losing yet again to the Repubs.

        The perfect is the enemy of the good.  The Democratic yearning for perfection - party purity - is no better than the Far Right.

        •  Purity, not pretty. Oops. (1+ / 0-)
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        •  "Attack"? When has "attacking" in the Bill Maher (0+ / 0-)

          sense of the word ever helped?

          Shouldn't we be working to win people over instead of calling them stupid?

          •  We should be calling out the GOP (0+ / 0-)

            on their racist and sexist agenda, and attack their ideology relentlessly.  Yes, attack.

            But if you are more of a "win people over" person, I respect that.  There is room for both.  

          •  No reason we can't do both (0+ / 0-)

            I have no problem with calling Carnival Cruz, Ayn Ryan, PaulBot 2.0, and their ilk "stupid" because that's what they are: Stupid, vicious bullies who want to quell those who aren't them -- and if innocent people get hurt in the process, well, you can't break an omelette...

            What we have to do (in addition to calling them out on their stupidity and their hypocrisy) is reach out to those who keep voting for them and showing them WHY voting for these pugs is a no-win situation for them, because Cruz & Co have just as little respect for them as they do for us "eebil libbrulllz!"

            "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

            by Oliver Tiger on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 03:07:20 PM PDT

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          •  We're never going to "win over" (1+ / 0-)
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            the people Maher is talking about.

            Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

            by skohayes on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 05:18:12 PM PDT

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            •  Agree (0+ / 0-)

              And the people who can be won over, because they're undecided and less informed but willing to change both, may tune in more easily to a snarky approach to a serious subject.  I don't always agree with his viewpoint but there's no doubt that Bill Maher IS smart - like his point about all these "hard workers" or whatever term he used having all this time to tune in these RW talk radio shows.

      •  They don't really wanna "break the government" (0+ / 0-)

        They want 100% of the government loot to go to them.

        "Welfare queens" are anyone not already wealthy mooching off the USG.

        NEW SINGLE! http://johnnyangelwendell.bandcamp.com/

        by Johnny Wendell on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 01:14:47 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for asking WinSmith (1+ / 0-)
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        Comedy, almost by definition, is a reactive strategy.

        First, you have to have something to joke about. So you are reacting to something that has already been put out there.

        Second, in comedy, the audience typically already agrees with you and shares your values. The people watching Bill Mayer typically already agree with Bill Mayer.

        There is a use here in that comedy can and often does make watching more entertaining and therefore people will watch who might not otherwise watch. This is why you'll hear statistics about people under a certain age getting their political information from late night TV.

        These are people, however, who, by and large, already agree with Bill Maher.

        I should have clarified better in what was a bit of an offhand comment.

        BTW, I don't think he did nearly as good a job of pointing out the relationship between right wing media and the Republican Party as you did. Again though, that's not his job. He's a comedian.

        I just don't think that comedy (especially of the Bill Maher kind- "you're an idiot if you don't think like me") wins over nearly the number of people we think it does.

        Maybe I'm wrong though. Have you ever won anyone over by calling them a Tea Party idiot?

    •  he's very right on this and on the significance (9+ / 0-)

      of rw radio

      he definitely got this right- this is not about another nut saying something crazy,  what they're saying is scripted and coordinated and blasted from 1200 stations so loony pricks like cruz can repeat them with the certitude of a tin pot dictator or bishop

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 09:26:59 AM PDT

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    •  Half the diaries on Daily Kos are this (0+ / 0-)

      and it's incredibly annoying.

      http://jasonluthor.jelabeaux.com/

      by DAISHI on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 12:14:18 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks for diary. (0+ / 0-)

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 03:31:18 PM PDT

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    •  Not true. (0+ / 0-)

      Maher points out trends before they're popular (obesity, corruption of the food chain for instance).   No one listens.  
      Right here, Maher is pointing out something critical to understanding our enemy:  the right wing nation has come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no need to actually govern.  This has very important ramifications for politics.  For instance, the country is obviously broken.  Therefore, it's up to the Democrats to repair it because they are the only ones with ideas and desire to fix it.  The message is simple and easy to disseminate.  Progressive politicians need to take note that this is the underlying problem and their message needs to be unified in pointing this out to prospective voters.  This is the message:  It's NOT that there's an obstructionist right wing, it's that there is NO right wing.

      What's the difference between the Federal government and organized crime? One's legally sanctioned.

      by FrankenPC on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 09:30:11 AM PDT

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    •  Definitely humor you can move on from (1+ / 0-)
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      But sometimes I need that when I'm depressed and I need that emotional excuse to do something.

    •  I wish I had as much attention to point out right (1+ / 0-)
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      wing folly as does Maher.  And I wish I used it so well.  You may not agree with him on every point, but basically, he is ON OUR SIDE and we should support him.  I wish more people like him were on talk radio.

  •  Things I learned last night. (2+ / 0-)
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    Rob Lowe is dumb as he is pretty. Anna Marie Cox believes women are paid fairly. And Bill Maher was convinced by the GOP jar head that tactical nukes are OK.

    Real Time is my favorite TV program. I've seen Maher in person. But this season has been crap. Pick it up, Bill.

    What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. SAM HARRIS

    by Cpqemp on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 05:57:52 AM PDT

    •  But Ana Marie Cox is hawt though. (2+ / 0-)
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      When she used to make regular appearances on Keith and Rachel, she had this little hair flip that made me swoon.

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

      by zenbassoon on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:35:23 AM PDT

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    •  lowe can laugh at himself (5+ / 0-)
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      that beats a republican 'genius' any day

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 09:31:12 AM PDT

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    •  Guess we saw different shows (3+ / 0-)
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      And Bill Maher was convinced by the GOP jar head that tactical nukes are OK.
      Just standing back and letting the troglodyte rant about starting an unprovoked nuclear war was revealing.

      That guy was one of the dumbest fucks I've ever seen on the TV Machine, and that's saying something.  He didn't even know what a tactical nuke was, and I'm convinced he believed every fucking word that farted out of his mouth.

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 10:49:52 AM PDT

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      •  You're correct... (0+ / 0-)

        Maher confronted him initially, but then said he was one of the few GOP with something inside his head.

        That guy will get us all vaporized. What's wrong with CA?

        What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. SAM HARRIS

        by Cpqemp on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 02:27:14 PM PDT

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  •  Indeed: Permanent opposition (17+ / 0-)

    I wondered, in 2000, how the GOP would manage if it couldn't be opposition. Its entire identity was based on "taking our country back" (they used that in 1996, and in 1980). FoxNews had already perfected its format of today, whereby the evil Government is doing evil things.

    It turned out, it more or less didn't.

    Until 9/11, the whole GOP was lost. Also, after 2004, when Bush tried to push through Social Security "reform" and other actual agenda points, he was lost. Without an enemy, a sense of being oppressed by an evil, slightly more powerful, Other, there was no unity and no agenda. The press almost did its job with the Energy Taskforce -- it was going to and trying to -- but then 9/11, and we got The Enemy who transformed into Saddam.

    "man, proud man,/ Drest in a little brief authority,. . . Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven/ As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,/ Would all themselves laugh mortal." -- Shakespeare, Measure for Measure II ii, 117-23

    by The Geogre on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:03:21 AM PDT

    •  Fully agree (7+ / 0-)

      The way that Bush and Republicans in Congress interferred in the Terri Schiavo case epitomized their extremely misplaced priorites.   What the right construed as meaningful legislation was a doomed-from-the-start political theater of extraordinary actions.

      In addition to having no proactive agenda, the other basic element that I would add to this analysis is their need for institute fear as the motivating premise for actions and proposals.   e.g, Saddam wasn't just a bad guy, he was a bad guy who had to be feared.  

    •  not just lost; demonstrably WRONG (7+ / 0-)

      That is the part that all our betters keep missing.
      The interference in the death of terry Schiavo was wrong; it was shown the poor woman had long since departed this earth, and her corpse was paraded around in public as a poster for their misplaced, faith-based version of 'life'. It was a disgusting spectacle, and directly contradictory to their professed ethos of keping gubmint out of people's lives.
      they were dead wrong, and deadly wrong about Iraq, about Al-Qaeda, about the economy, Obama's birth certificate, about everything. Can anyone point to a debate where the Republicans were proven correct and the democrats proven wrong in the last decade? two decades?

      They are just as wrong in their incessant whining about government (of which they are a lamentable but intrinsic part) but it is harder to prove that wrongness unless they actually do something that can then be tested (and found to be wrong, again). so the preferred place for this band of vandals is in the opposition; where the constant tantrums and fear mongering can have the effect of preventing anything from happening without having to shoulder the blame for why nothing is happening. Oh, and the donations from megalomaniac billionaires are easier to come by when you can make promises that never have to be fulfilled.

      Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

      by kamarvt on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 08:37:57 AM PDT

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      •  "Demonstrably WRONG" is just so slippery. (1+ / 0-)
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        Some of Schiavo's relatives are still convinced her brain was alive, and that the autopsy showed it was even though, of course, it showed the opposite.

        It turns out that Moynihan was overly-optimistic when he said "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."

        •  insistence is not proof, of course (2+ / 0-)
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          this gets at an even deeper ill; that the loudest voice, the most sincere-sounding liar, the strength of belief, is what determines the soundness or truth of a statement or action. That anything can be 'unskewed'. And being unswayed by incontrovertible proof is actually a testament to one's strength of character.
          This is obviously NOT the case; my sincere belief that my cat is an excellent designated driver will not get me safely home after a night of drinking, no matter how loudly I insist, or how deeply i believe it.
          But an awful lot of people stomp and stagger through their lives under this exact misconception, and an even more awful lot of people know better but foster this attitude for their own gain. Bulls in the china shop of reality.

          Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

          by kamarvt on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 10:16:30 AM PDT

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          •  They act like children (0+ / 0-)

            who put their fingers in their ears and chant so they can't hear what you're saying.  I'm not a believer in Freudian mumbo jumbo, but his description of the Id - impulsive, infantile and completely self-serving - seems like an apt description of these people.

    •  imo talk radio is the enabler for all that (2+ / 0-)
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      mightymouse, travelerxxx
      high office is just a higher form of talk radio
      that's what the GOP has become, mainly because the left ignored it and the talk radio blowhards became gods and became acceptable.

      if it wasn't iraq or sciavo or IRS or benghazi it would be whatever else the stink tanks pumped through the radio.

      opposition uber alles is their purpose and the rw radio monopoly made it so - not fox or any other possible combination of rw assets in media, or their money.

      no other media assets could provide the unchallenged (invisible to the music-loving left) coordinated repetition to an often captive audience of 50 mil a week, dominating messaging everywhere but urban centers.

      the stink tanks could create their own reality, distort reality, distract from reality, at will, for the purpose of opposing everything and anybody progressive.

      and i hope this bit from maher is an indication that he's getting it and hopefully the dem party 'brains' and those at the progressive orgs are too. we don't have a lot of time.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 09:51:08 AM PDT

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      •  The work site radio (1+ / 0-)
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        AM talk radio is "on" all day for people who work in construction. It'll be that instead of music, because the workers will argue about music, but the AM talk radio, whether sports or politics, will be on all day. Sports and politics talk are very alike, too: volume and insult equal entertainment.

        The left didn't ignore it, but the left doesn't have Clear Channel, and the whole point of the radio syndicates is to be oligopolies. Once Clear Channel and its two competitors came into existence, it was too late already for a left syndicate.

        We have Pacifica. Whoopee.

        "man, proud man,/ Drest in a little brief authority,. . . Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven/ As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,/ Would all themselves laugh mortal." -- Shakespeare, Measure for Measure II ii, 117-23

        by The Geogre on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 12:22:55 PM PDT

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        •  i would argue about the 'ignore' part (1+ / 0-)
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          there is no organized opposition to the rw radio monopoly outside the very valuable rush boycotts that started 2 years ago, never really have been.

          there is no searchable record of what the major talkers are saying, or effort to do that yet- just a few specific efforts.

          the number of times the left has demonstrated at rw radio stations can probably be counted on one hand, even though those stations are the reason protests don't work anymore- the stations are louder so media and politicians can ignore protests.

          and i've had too many conversations over the last 20 years with people who think talk radio needs to be ignored, and many on this blog.

          This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

          by certainot on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 01:10:44 PM PDT

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          •  Good points (1+ / 0-)
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            You bring up things I hadn't considered. One of the powers of the right wing talk phenomenon is the anonymity of syndication. Each station can claim to be quasi-innocent of what a host far far away said. However, when there is protest, the talk radio uses that as a way to boost ratings or ad revenue. (The Howard Stern model.)

            Neil Boorts and Herman Cain are from Atlanta, and the former got plenty of protest when he was just a local voice, and that, of course, was something he used.

            My point was that the Air America experience showed us that the real battle had been lost when Bush 1 and Clinton had allowed media mergers to go unchecked. That had led to more and more market power for highly leveraged, extremely aggressive conglomerates to effectively own the dial -- especially on AM. At this point, the only way a left alternative can happen is as a subscription through college radio, as public radio is largely gone, and the entire AM dial is chartered.

            "man, proud man,/ Drest in a little brief authority,. . . Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven/ As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,/ Would all themselves laugh mortal." -- Shakespeare, Measure for Measure II ii, 117-23

            by The Geogre on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 05:33:41 PM PDT

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            •  those stations are well coordinated nationally (1+ / 0-)
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              (through the national talkers) and locally through the local GOP and think tanks. they usually follow the same topics with the same talking points.

              i don't think the objective should be to try to compete with the monopoly- that won't work if 90% of the left think rw radio is irrelevant.

              the way to fight it is to open more stations to progressives and that can be done if the left finally challenges rw radio - which it isn't.

              in this diary  http://www.dailykos.com/...  i suggest some ways to challenge that monopoly, which only survives because the left ignores it.

              rw radio depends heavily on university sports. all the left has to do is shame some of our universities to stop endorsing it- the monopoly will fall apart as more schools start honoring their mission statements.

              This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

              by certainot on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:21:04 PM PDT

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              •  Yes and No (1+ / 0-)
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                You're correct that rw AM stations survive by college sports, but you're wrong to think that the universities can do anything much about it. The conferences sign broadcast rights deals with networks, and the NCAA negotiates radio as well as TV contracts. The university, if it's popular (revenue positive for the AM station) is almost certainly bound by prior agreements into a collective contract.

                I'll speak to specifics.

                The University of Georgia football is a huge money maker for radio. Georgia Tech is much less so. No, Georgia has its "Georgia Bulldogs Network" of affiliated stations, but the actual negotiations are done via the University of Georgia Athletic Association (which is a private non-profit unaffiliated with the University), which purchases rights from the U. Georgia Tech, on the other hand, /formerly sold rights to its network, and, because there was less demand, it choose stations.

                However, Georgia Tech is now in the ACC. This conference has its own "all schools participating" network, and its Leerfield Sports handles the individual networks. "The Clemson" or "Georgia Tech" or "Tarheel" or "Terapin" network is alike Leerfield.

                Let the NCAA die, and let the accounting tricks get audited, and, yes, the schools will be able to divest. I'm for it. Now, though, we let the billionaires buy the air.

                "man, proud man,/ Drest in a little brief authority,. . . Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven/ As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,/ Would all themselves laugh mortal." -- Shakespeare, Measure for Measure II ii, 117-23

                by The Geogre on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 10:38:03 AM PDT

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                •  i don't buy it that nothing can be done. at some (0+ / 0-)

                  point the university has to agree to a licensing contract. the schools hold the final say, not the NCAA ro learfield, on whether they do or do not want to be part of KKK radio.

                  the university can say they won't renew with learfield or whoever, if the the radio component includes political programing, be it rw of left wing.

                  that wil send a signal to advertisers- it will hurt rw radio. some stations will have to think about giving up political talk and find other content, or maybe they'll offer to balance (i wouldn't trust them tho- they're always puling that shit with so called liberals and moderates).

                  there will be schools out there that will feel pressure to follow.

                  and maybe there's language in the contracts that allows them to pull out of a relationship with a station that, for instance, incites violence, or is racist,  sexist etc. if a station became a KKK radio station, wouldn't a university have the option to break the contract? i would argue most of those stations have been there for years.

                  you sound knowledgeable in this, i have a question. is there a way to find out how much the schools are getting from the radio portion of the licensing agreements?

                  that portion may be a very small part of the total- and therefore easier to separate.

                  i understand learfield keeps that confidential, and the university personnel  may not even know, and that's absurd, considering the fact that all those stations basically work for the GOP and their affiliated think tanks.

                  This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

                  by certainot on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 12:39:34 PM PDT

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                  •  It's very, very weird (1+ / 0-)
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                    There are scandals beneath scandals in this area.

                    Many of the universities punt the negotiations to a booster club that is officially a private non-profit. This is for cause. There was a law suit brought in the mid-1980's against the University of Georgia Athletic Association (which is not part of the U.). The University rents its football stadium to the AA for $1.00 a year, and then it sells the tickets to games for high prices. The U. only gets money on licensing and concessions (the $3.00 Coca-Cola, the programs, the t-shirts). In return, the AA actually built and provides the weight rooms, the track, and all kinds of things that the students can't use because it's not owned by the U.

                    If that sounds corrupt, it's because it is. (The case went to three judges that were all members of the AA. Two recused. The third didn't but dismissed the case.) I don't know who manages the radio rights, but I would venture to guess that it, too, is the AA -- purchasing the rights from the U. for a figurative sum.

                    The problem with the ACC and a number of other leagues is that the leagues made deals. I agree that the leagues should be able to do better, and the universities could put pressure on them, but students and alumni will probably not pressure for anything that reduces their ability to hear the games.

                    "man, proud man,/ Drest in a little brief authority,. . . Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven/ As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,/ Would all themselves laugh mortal." -- Shakespeare, Measure for Measure II ii, 117-23

                    by The Geogre on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 06:53:37 PM PDT

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                    •  yikes. it sounds seriously corrupt. basically ways (2+ / 0-)
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                      of privatizing aspects of a publicly funded university.

                      and using a very loud local radio station endorsed by the university to influence regents elections and who is and isn't acceptable as president/chancellor (i saw all that for the university of co) is a big part of it.

                      i can't imagine that students and faculty and staff would accept this without protest if they had a clue. but most of them think radio is a dying medium that only old white folks listen to.

                      as far as access to games though, i can't accept the idea that the people who actually do listen to the games on radio can't find alternatives, nor the idea that those right wing stations, loud as they are, can't be replaced in many areas with stations that would be very happy to broadcast those games and collectively may even pay more in licensing. or replaced by live streaming.

                      that's another thing- are the licensing cos really looking for the best deal for the uni as far as radio goes? is there a real bidding process going on? is that legal? by packaging the media rights with tv they jack it out of range of other stations. the major tv rw radio associations can dominate. and are.

                      the whole thing sounds really fishy, and something student groups ought to be pursuing- especially since those rw radio stations, endorsed by their beloved sports teams, are trying to defund them, reduce grants and faculty salaries, and kill public ed in general.

                      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

                      by certainot on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 08:04:52 PM PDT

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          •  Don't you think Media Matters (1+ / 0-)
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            keeps up with the radio talkers enough?

            Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

            by skohayes on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 05:34:00 PM PDT

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            •  i talked to someone in the office last year who (0+ / 0-)

              told me basically someone listen to limbaugh to see if he said something worth noting. i don't know how accurate that was but aside from limbaugh and maybe a few others there's no way to read what they're saying.

              media matters reports some outrageous stuff but missed, for eg, when limbaugh said sept 10, 2008, that "obama's head should roll".

              there is no recognition of the totality of the propaganda rw radio is responsible for.

              This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

              by certainot on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:11:58 PM PDT

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  •  Cause there is no shortage of nuts and hatred (3+ / 0-)
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  •  i hope the dem party 'brains' got the message (1+ / 0-)
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    because maher's point here (after many years of focusing on fox) seems to have escaped them for 25 years

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 09:34:06 AM PDT

  •  The reason why radio is right wing is because... (5+ / 0-)

    ...the FCCs Fairness Doctrine was abolished in 1987.  Thanks to Reagan. I was living near Sacramento then and I heard Rushbo on the radio.  I called in and talked to him on air.  I had no idea it was going to become the monster it has become.

    Radio was Goebbels vehicle and it was the way Mao controlled China.  Radio was the key player in the Rwandan genocide more recently.

    People who are attracted to authoritarianism are easily manipulated through radio.  Us progressives and liberals use our brains too much to be so manipulated.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 09:42:35 AM PDT

  •  Maher Keeps Hosting Unwatchable RWNJ Screechers (0+ / 0-)

    Many weeks I just turn it off as soon as the right wing guests start screaming with the very first words from their mouths.

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 12:02:00 PM PDT

  •  Why are all the Bill Maher diaries (0+ / 0-)

    always labeled MUST SEE ?

    http://jasonluthor.jelabeaux.com/

    by DAISHI on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 12:14:01 PM PDT

  •  HE should have (0+ / 0-)

    actually mentioned that the reason right wing talk radio is so prevalent is because they spend so much money to put it on in the air everywhere, not because its actually that popular.

    I love president Obama!!!

    by freakofsociety on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 02:25:27 PM PDT

  •  His first point is something I always point out (0+ / 0-)

    When I join the cesspool of Yahoo comments,  rarely. For the hard workers, they sure have time to pollute every news story with nuttiness all day, every day...But most   are retirees, who were given the freedom of time due to the government enforcing tax laws that allowed a middle class to retire with dignity. Of course they wonder why we can't do it, they do not live in todays America, that they created over the past 35 years.

  •  Its all Advertising (0+ / 0-)

    The reason the right wing media works so good is they talk up fear and sell stuff. Liberals are better able to think so they don't buy the crap (gold, years of emergency food, security systems).

    We need to continue to resist the notion that bullying is some sort of rite of passage. Bullying is killing our children, whether they are gay or "different" in other ways.

    by 207wickedgood on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 04:17:04 PM PDT

  •  Stopped listening (0+ / 0-)

    The vast majority of progressives who listened to KTALK here in LoS Angeles have abandoned talk radio altogether. The conservatives took a great group of informative Progressive off the air and put on conservative liars and hate mongers. We have gone to Television where Stephanie Miller is now and I heart radio where Randi Rhodes is. The owners, Clear Channel, would rather lose listeners than let a progressive message be heard in California. What the conservative owners of Clear Channel do not understand is that most people in California are not stupid like many of the people in the Southern States and we will not be dictated too as to who we will listen to. We know liars when we hear them, we know racist when we hear them and we surely know ignorance when hear it therefore we have left the lying conservatives to reach the very few idiots who have moved to California from the Southern States.

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