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  • Today's comic by Jen Sorensen is Tyranny of the collectivists:
    Teaser panel for
  • These Daily Kos community posts were the most shared on Facebook April 14:
    Monica Jones, AZ Transgender woman convicted of the crime "Walking While Trans", by kellybusey

    Americans increasingly rejecting the stock market, cuts Wall Street profits, by gjohnsit

    The Simpsons hit it out of the park, by gjohnsit

  • TPM discovers that it had interviewed accused shooter Frazier Glenn Miller back in 2012: It was not Miller (who allegedly shot three over the weekend at the Kansas City  Jewish Community Center) that TPM reporter Ryan Reilly was interested in at the time. It was Miller's association with Kevin Harpham, the guy who engineered the bombing of a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade in Spokane, Wash., in 2011.
    Miller told us he believed Harpham had been framed because it didn't figure he'd bomb an MLK parade. "He was more of an anti-Semite than an anti-black racist. He focused on what the Jews were doing to us, rather than what blacks do to us. Blacks, they have little power except what the Jews allow them to have. Jews call the shots. But white people, we have no power at all. We have nobody representing us, we have no leaders, we have no organization, we have no unity, no solidarity, we're not even allowed to complain about our extinction."
  • Romney placard disappears from image on John Kasich's re-election  website.
  • One year, one city. A photo today of people whose lives intersected a year ago at the Boston Marathon.
  • Anti-vaxxers kill:
    In communities across the nation, Americans of all stripes are making dangerous decisions to reschedule or forgo immunization, says Alan Hinman, a scientist who sits on the scientific advisory board of Voices for Vaccines, which supports and advocates for on-time vaccinations. [...]

    During a 2008 measles outbreak in San Diego, CDC officials were shocked to find school districts where one in five children were not vaccinated against the disease, she says.

    Last year, California had the largest number of unprotected kindergartners not vaccinated for their parents' philosophical reasons: 14,921. This year, 49 cases of measles had been reported by March. The state had four cases by that time last year.

  • Government says Bundy saga not over yet: On Monday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said the fight between the Bureau of Land Management and outlaw rancher Cliven Bundy isn't over. "We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it's not over." The BLM backed away from a stand-off with Bundy and hundreds of protesters, including armed militia and returned cattle they had confiscated because Bundy refuses to pay fees to graze his cattle on public land.
    Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore said she spent much of the past week with the Bundy family and helped feed some of the calves that were returned over the weekend.

    "It's going to take a lot to revive the calves that were nearly dead when they were returned to the Bundy Ranch because they had been separated from their mothers during the roundup, and a few most likely won't make it," said Fiore, a Republican from Las Vegas. "It's time for Nevada to stand up to the federal government and demand the return of the BLM lands to the people of Nevada."

  • Cultivating insecurity in rookie Wall Street analysts.
  • Two environmental advocacy groups team up to elect climate hawks:
    The League of Conservation Voters and the Natural Resources Defense Council Action Fund are starting LeadingGreen, a collaboration that will steer donations to federal candidates and enlist the help of major donors in lobbying elected officials. Although it was not prompted by the Supreme Court’s decision this month to strike down the overall limit on how much individuals can give candidates and political parties, LCV President Gene Karpinski said the ruling highlights what has motivated the two groups.
  • On today's rerun of the Kagro in the Morning show, it's the April 16, 2013, episode, featuring Greg Dworkin, Armando & Meteor Blades, in the immediate aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombing, discussing all that insanity entailed.

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  •  What Fiore (R-NV Nitwit) won't tell you (15+ / 0-)

    The Bundy Ranch is in a desert.

    None of his neighbors raise cattle any more because you can't raise cattle in a desert.  They get sick and die and you can't make money that way even if the Feds prop you up.

    Visit http://theuptake.org/ for Minnesota news as it happens.

    by Phoenix Woman on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:04:34 PM PDT

  •  sure, and how much of NV is Federal land.... (7+ / 0-)
    Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore said she spent much of the past week with the Bundy family and helped feed some of the calves that were returned over the weekend.
    "It's going to take a lot to revive the calves that were nearly dead when they were returned to the Bundy Ranch because they had been separated from their mothers during the roundup, and a few most likely won't make it," said Fiore, a Republican from Las Vegas. "It's time for Nevada to stand up to the federal government and demand the return of the BLM lands to the people of Nevada."
    Approximately 86% of the state's land is owned by various jurisdictions of the U.S. federal government, both civilian and military.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:05:02 PM PDT

  •  He could, you know, just pay the damn fine (6+ / 0-)

    If Zimmerman could crowd source a million for his legal fees, there's no reason Bundy can't scrounge up the cash to make the government go away.

    But that'd be letting "the man" win.

    The Cake is a lie. In Pie there is Truth. ~ Fordmandalay

    by catwho on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:05:12 PM PDT

  •  People have forgotten how horrible these diseases (15+ / 0-)

    are. We give them names like "chicken pox" or "the measles" and they seem quaint relics of a by-gone era. Something you could, in good conscience, opt out of getting treated. What we've forgotten is those by-gone eras where full of childhood obituaries.

    GOP 2014 strategy -- Hire clowns, elephants, and a ringmaster and say "a media circus" has emerged and blame Democrats for lack of progress. Have pundits agree that "both sides are to blame" and hope the public will stay home on election day.

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:06:04 PM PDT

  •  Return??? (8+ / 0-)
    said Fiore, a Republican from Las Vegas. "It's time for Nevada to stand up to the federal government and demand the return of the BLM lands to the people of Nevada."
    Those lands never belonged to Nevada. Nevada owns very little land, and they are already owned by the people, including those residents of Nevada.

    What the Federal Government should NEVER do is hand our land to the Nevada Legislature ... Ever!

    You are already proving that you have no idea how to manage it!

    ps ... If it were to be returned to anyone, then Mexico would get it, and quite frankly I'd trust Mexico before I would trust the Nevada State Assembly.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:07:21 PM PDT

  •  Just wondering, when is DailyKos (3+ / 0-)

    is going to have an offer like this: Amazon offers workers $5,000 to quit  (hint to DK overlords - I'd be out of here for even half of that!)

  •  Re; Bundy, FAUX News, and Keystone XL (11+ / 0-)

    So the RW media was championing the rights of a criminal rancher and all his RW nutjob followers defying the federal government.... I wonder what they say about all the ranchers and farmers protesting against the Keystone pipeline? Or do I even need to ask?

    "I grew up on an Iowa farm castrating hogs!" - Joni Ernst, Iowa Senate candidate (TMI)

    by Fordmandalay on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:11:59 PM PDT

  •  EPA releases greenhouse gas emission inventory (5+ / 0-)

    CONTACT:
     Julia P. Valentine
    valentine.julia@epa.gov
     202-564-0496
     202-564-4355

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
     April 15, 2014

    EPA Publishes 19th Annual U.S. Greenhouse Gas Inventory

    WASHINGTON – The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) released its 19th annual report of overall U.S. greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions today, showing a 3.4 percent decrease in 2012 from 2011. The Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks, which is submitted annually to the Secretariat of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, presents a national-level overview of annual greenhouse gas emissions since 1990.

     The major contributors to the decrease in emissions from 2011-2012 were the decrease in energy consumption across all sectors in the U.S. economy, and the decrease in carbon intensity for electricity generation due to fuel switching from coal to natural gas. Other factors included a decrease in transportation sector emissions attributed to an increase in fuel efficiency across different transportation modes and limited new demand for passenger transportation.

     Greenhouse gases are the primary driver of climate change, leading to increased heat-related illnesses and deaths; worsening the air pollution that can cause asthma attacks and other respiratory problems; and expanding the ranges of disease-spreading insects. Climate change is also affecting the frequency and intensity of heat waves, droughts, and other extreme weather events.

     Under President Obama’s Climate Action Plan, EPA is taking steps to address carbon pollution from the power and transportation sectors, and to improve energy efficiency in homes, businesses and factories. This includes increasing fuel efficiency for cars and light trucks for model years 2012-2025 that, over the lifetime of these vehicles, will save Americans more than $1.7 trillion. In addition, we are increasing energy efficiency through the Energy Star program that saved Americans more than $26 billion in utility bills in 2012.

     According to the report, GHG emissions in 2012 showed a 10 percent drop below 2005 levels. Total emissions of the six main greenhouse gases in 2012 were equivalent to 6,526 million metric tons of carbon dioxide. These gases include carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride.

     EPA prepares the annual report in collaboration with other federal agencies and after gathering comments from stakeholders across the country. In addition to tracking U.S. GHG emissions, the inventory also calculates carbon dioxide emissions that are removed from the atmosphere through the uptake of carbon in forests, vegetation, soils, and other natural processes (called carbon “sinks”).

    More on the greenhouse gas inventory report:
    http://www.epa.gov/...

     R092

  •  Here's a question I have for the anti-vaccine (13+ / 0-)

    crowd: to they take their cats and dogs to the vet for vaccination? If they don't, they are endangering the community times two.

    Here in Maine, we have had several bad outbreaks of Whooping Cough (pertussis). It has killed hundreds of elderly folks and people with lung diseases like COPD. I'd die if I got it, I can tell you that.

    If I were a parent, I would not allow my children to play with non-vaccinated kids. I would be tempted to home-school them, as a matter of fact.

    These people are a menace to society.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:19:52 PM PDT

    •  Vacinated canines will always have a (7+ / 0-)

      leg up on humans when it comes to exposure to the rabies.

    •  God knows (7+ / 0-)

      If I had had children you can bet they would have been vaccinated. This anti-vaccination stuff is nuts.

      This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

      by Ellid on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:35:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I got all of mine, as did my younger brother (6+ / 0-)

        (though he didn't get the smallpox vaccination, but I have the scar on my left arm to prove that I did). The other year I got a booster for Whooping Cough because we've had all these outbreaks.

        When we were kids, you could not be admitted to public school without proof that you'd had your shots. As it should be.

        Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

        by commonmass on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:42:31 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I got my smallpox vaccine when I was nine (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          commonmass, JeffW

          And I had such a horrible case of coxpow that my doctor was convinced I would have died if I'd actually caught smallpox.  He'd been practicing for years and had never seen such a bad case.

          True fact:  a few years ago I went to my doctor for a blood draw.  It was a warm day and I wore a sleeveless top, so of course my vaccination scar was visible...and would you believe the phlebotomist had never seen one before????  Turned out she worked primarily with kids, and of course they don't get that vaccine any more....

          This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

          by Ellid on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 02:00:30 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  Measels, mumps, German Measels (rubella), (3+ / 0-)
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        wishingwell, T100R, JeffW

        smallpox, whooping cough, and polio. That's what we used to have to have for public school.

        Actually, maybe not polio: I remember getting the vaccine AT school.

        Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

        by commonmass on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:45:49 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Get them as an adult, too (5+ / 0-)

        Turns out the whooping cough vaccine wears out after 20 years and needs a booster.

        As a 26 year old I had the disease and let me tell you IT SUCKS.

        I was good and got a proper TDaP booster after that, but I wish I had known to get it when I was 21-25, when it's recommended these days.

        The Cake is a lie. In Pie there is Truth. ~ Fordmandalay

        by catwho on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 01:30:09 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  My kids got all the vaccines except... (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        commonmass, JeffW

        My son did not do well with the pertussis vaccine so only received it once.
        And my kids got the chicken pox a year before the vaccine came out. (darn it)

    •  answer... (0+ / 0-)

      What happens to your argument when the vaccinated person passes the disease to other vaccinated individuals?

      That’s why a fully vaccinated 22-year-old theater employee in New York City who developed the measles in 2011 was released without hospitalization or quarantine. But like Typhoid Mary, this patient turned out to be unwittingly contagious. Ultimately, she transmitted the measles to four other people, according to a recent report in Clinical Infectious Diseases that tracked symptoms in the 88 people with whom “Measles Mary” interacted while she was sick. Surprisingly, two of the secondary patients had been fully vaccinated. And although the other two had no record of receiving the vaccine, they both showed signs of previous measles exposure that should have conferred immunity.
      Link

      It has killed hundreds of elderly folks and people with lung diseases like COPD.

      Where have you gotten your statistics on pertussis?

      Today, deaths from whooping cough are relatively rare and occur mostly among infants.

      From 2000 to 2008, 181 people died from pertussis; 166 or 92 percent were less than 6 months old, according to the CDC.

      No pertussis deaths have been reported in Maine since 2006, when a pediatric patient died from the disease in Cumberland County, Martins said.

  •  Anyway.... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    commonmass, justiceputnam

    I'm juggling trying to finish a MendelMax that's starting to hit several impasses until I can ferret out help or better instructions and trying to overcome inertia and get my art going again.

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:21:56 PM PDT

    •  Update (0+ / 0-)

      I just got an salvaged ATX power supply to start up and run without a PC around it. For the first time in my life!

      "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

      by Stude Dude on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:44:04 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Bundy Ranch - The Koch Gestapo Beerhall Putsch? (15+ / 0-)

    Notice that Harry Reid criticizes the Kochs and ta-da! Suddenly the right wing Koch controlled groups like Americans For Prosperity are making Bundy a martyr for freedom. And the usual flabby jackhole conspiracy nuts start running around with AKs.

    These land use cases often follow the same pattern - someone ignores years of warnings from local or federal agencies and is making a nice profit (never running an orphanage or Girl Scout camp) through the illegal use of public land.

    In this case the guy has been grazing cattle on public BLM land without paying grazing fees for 20 years. This BLM land he's been using illegally gets lumped in with "the Bundy Ranch" by the conspiracy people.

    And he's been overgrazing the land with 5X more cattle than were ever approved. I think that's the point of seizing the herd - he's got hundreds more cattle than he can legally support on that land, which is essentially a desert. This becomes the "desert tortoise" argument, and as we all know, the Endangered Species Act equals UN Agenda 21. The point is that rules like this exist exactly so parasites like Bundy don't reduce federal land to a new Dust Bowl.

    Also, the Bundy Ranch where his family has lived since the 1890s is almost certainly a land grant from the federal government, who thoughtfully went in and killed the Indians before giving the Bundys their land in the first place.

    There's the typical scenario where the "hero" has been a parasite on the system. Oh and no doubt it will turn out he's been grubbing every agricultural subsidy he can get while flipping off the government.

    Then the milita clown car show up with lots and lots of people who don't have jobs, but plenty of money for weapons and travel from out of state. Want to bet how many of them are drawing federal pensions and disability? I bet 1/3 of them claim they are too disabled to drive. You'd better wear ski masks guys!

    And then there is this business about the solar energy farms. This all about the militias organizing to get the tyrannical iron heel of solar energy off necks of Americans. Did you just spew coffee onto you computer screen?

    What you have are the Kochs who are the nations biggest petrochemical and pipeline tycoons who have no interest in seeing local people getting clean power and profit from desert sunshine. The local people need to be bludgeoned to allow their land to be fracked and have Koch pipelines run across their property. Let them get a taste of clean energy and watch that tide turn. And now we are seeing the curtain pulled back on the Koch's private heavily armed Gestapo, which is still only loosely organized but operational.

    It would take only a minor investment to have them acting like Russians in Crimea......oh wait, they are behaving like the Russians - outsiders showing up with AKs hoping for a confrontation with the government.

    And where were these clowns when Canadian company Transcanada was trying to seize land in Nebraska for the Keystone pipeline? Gee, need I even point out that the Kochs build pipelines and they are biggest non-Canadian holders of tar sands leases.

    Finally, the Chinese solar energy project somewhere near (like 10 miles from Bundy) was canceled a year ago.  So BLM web pages about this project were taken down which has the CT crowd screaming "Coverup!" Reid broke ground on a solar farm on an Indian reservation that's 50 miles or more away from Bundy.

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:23:12 PM PDT

  •  Anyone see a twisted irony (8+ / 0-)

    in a racist attempting to kill Jews, but instead killing a Catholic and two Methodists apparently because he couldn't tell the difference?

    "You cannot win improv." Stephen Colbert (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6tiaooiIo0 at 16:24).

    by Publius2008 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:29:47 PM PDT

  •  Mrowka one big-talking whitecoat (7+ / 0-)
    said Rob Mrowka, a senior scientist for the Center for Biological Diversity. "It's backing down in the face of threats and posturing of armed sovereignists."
    A good example why we want scientists to do science, not to dictate public policy.  Pretty easy to talk big when it's not your life on the line.

    The federal agents were completely correct to back down.  Bloodshed is not something you should rush into.  People are alive today who can help with the ultimate resolution.  A potential powder keg has not been set off. They sun will set tonight and rise tomorrow.  Pressure can be placed and plans can be made to achieve the objective in shades other than red.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:31:48 PM PDT

  •  Ah, white supremacists.... (6+ / 0-)
    "But white people, we have no power at all. We have nobody representing us, we have no leaders, we have no organization, we have no unity, no solidarity, we're not even allowed to complain about our extinction."
    Wow, that's a Hell of a "master race" you got there.

    I am ever amused at the way white supremacists describe white people as the world's biggest losers.  Indeed, according to white supremacists, white people are such losers that they aren't even aware that they've been subjugated by Jews or the New World Order or whoever.  Normally people can't be conquered and enslaved without actually noticing it happening, but I guess the "master race" is somewhere between cattle and turnips on the IQ scale.

    Taking jokes seriously is the exact mirror activity of laughing if someone says they have cancer. --jbou

    by Caj on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:37:20 PM PDT

  •  OK, Nevada. You can have the BLM land back... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Stude Dude, wintergreen8694, catwho

    ...when you allow nuclear waste to be stored at Yucca Mountain.

  •  Are these kids enrolled in public schools? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eric Nelson
    Last year, California had the largest number of unprotected kindergartners not vaccinated for their parents' philosophical reasons: 14,921. This year, 49 cases of measles had been reported by March. The state had four cases by that time last year.
    The reason i ask is in a lot of states, vaccinations are required in order to be enrolled in public schools.  I see TV ads for enrolling your child in kindergarten and what vaccines will be needed.  My sister in GA says all public school kids there have to do the same, get the required vaccines.

    So most of the anti vacs around here home school their kids or the kids may be in private schools but not public. But homeschool kids still come in contact with other kids and can infect them.

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    by wishingwell on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:58:42 PM PDT

  •  EPA IG on EPA and Petroleum Refineries (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eric Nelson

    The EPA Office of Inspector General (OIG) has recently posted a new report that is now available on our website at http://www.epa.gov/... under "The Latest from the OIG:"

    Report No. 14-P-0184 "EPA Needs to Demonstrate Whether It Has Achieved the Goals It Set Under the National Petroleum Refinery Initiative," April 15, 2014, http://go.usa.gov/...

    The objective of this evaluation was to determine to what extent the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA's) enforcement actions led to sustained compliance under the National Petroleum Refinery Initiative (NPRI, or the initiative). The EPA selected the petroleum refinery sector as one of its National Enforcement Initiatives (NEIs) in 1996. The EPA intended that its NPRI strategy's companywide consent decrees, or legally binding agreements, would lead to improved compliance and reduced harmful air pollutants or emissions as companies changed environmental management practices and reduced their emissions. The EPA officially concluded the NPRI in 2007, when 80 percent of the refining facilities were under a consent decree.

  •  "California had the largest number of ..." (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    J Rae, scott5js, ebohlman

    Let's be careful about wasting time with items that say that California has the largest number of something.  It is by far the most populous state, so all else being equal, it will have the largest number of everything.

    If California has the largest number of something per capita, that might be interesting.  Or if some not-that-populous region does, perhaps: Marin County seems to have an awful lot of anti-vaxxers and it doesn't have that many people.

  •  There's clearly a campaign to discredit (0+ / 0-)

    "anti-vaxers".  Whichever side you're on, this should be obvious.

    (Personally I use vaccines but not all of them.  Some are life-saving and protect us all.  Others imo are just Pharma pushing more crap.)

    But why create such a polarizing campaign, whoever's doing it?

    •  Persistance of fiction (0+ / 0-)

      The anti-vaccine crowd endanger public health and their arguments rest on ignorance and pseudo-science. Should they just be allowed to spew their nonsense and put more and more people at risk? There really isn't much if any credibility to the anti-vaccine arguments, much less the results for the health of individuals or the population. And the perspective is oddly tenacious, even amongst people who are fairly rational in many other things. What you call "a polarizing campaign" is really just stick strong to facts and reason, rather than giving in to the odd persistence of this particular fiction.

      •  I endured a 6 month in-my-face sales program for (0+ / 0-)

        a newly-developed shingles vaccine at my local chain pharmacy.  This is just Pharma, not "science".  

        And I'd prefer not to have mercury injected into me or my kids.   This is not ignorance or pseudo-science.  It's just skepticism of corporations' "caring" and industry-captured agencies' assurances.  

        I agree that people go way too far with this stuff.  I do use vaccines, and I don't worry about them.  But - sincerely - how does one know what to trust?  Monsanto yells "science" too and that's supposed to make us feel fine about their pesticides.

        •  Allowing concern about Big Pharma to overshadow (0+ / 0-)

          I think you're allowing ideology and your concerns about Big Pharma as a business and industry (many such concerns are legitimate) to overshadow the science.

          The sales program is pharmaceutical industry, most certainly. But the science of vaccination, epidemiology, herd immunity, and so fort is not just Big Pharma tooting it's own interested horn (as Monsanto often provides not exactly disinterested claims). These are indeed matters of science (no quote marks) and well established. There don't come simply and only from industry. Most of the anti-vaccine stuff floating around is pseudo-science, a very incomplete picture, or just downright wrong.

          There is no significant evidence that thiomerosal causes problems, especially the claimed Autism link. It is eliminated relatively quickly (especially in comparison to the methylmercury we encounter mostly through the environment). Out of abundance of caution, and probably political pressure, all of the childhood vaccines no longer contain thiomerosal. Flu vaccines in multi-dose vials may contain it, but flu vaccines are available in thiomerosal-free versions as well. If you want to avoid it, ask specifically for that version.

          It seems to me that the risk is significantly overplayed by the anti-vaccine, or vaccine concern troll crowd. The risks of not vaccinating are far greater, and effect not just the individual who doesn't receive it, but their community and individual members there of, as well.

          •  I basically agree but still don't like thiomerosal (0+ / 0-)

            (I had the mercury taken out of my teeth too.)

            But my original question is still unanswered.  Who is behind the big upsurge in attacks on anti-vaxxers, of whom I am not one?

            I have not seen an upsurge of antivaccine messages, just the opposition.  Who's orchestrating this?
             

            •  Public Health, Orchestration, and Being Fed Up (0+ / 0-)

              Could it be that multiple people or groups are just getting fed up with the whole anti-vax thing and it's refusal to die? But it's possible that there is some orchestration, as you call it, going on here. Public health people, officials, academics, and others, have noticed a problem and move to address it. It's no surprise that they talk to one another.

              In 2013 the Minnesota Department of Health undertook an awareness campaign about the importance of vaccination, and how it protects not only the vaccinated individual but also friends and family. I would be surprised if they were the only health department to undertake such a campaign. The growth in cases of childhood diseases covered by vaccinations has been noted by public health and medical communities. There seems to be a growing consensus that somewhat decreased levels of vaccination and the increased incidence of these diseases are linked. Both have become clearly not mere outliers but noticeable trends.

              On top of it, Andrew Wakefield saw his anti-vaccine paper withdrawn and was struck off the medical register, both highly publicized events, around 4 years ago. Yet the anti-vaccine crankery continues. This also probably has lead some in health care, public health, and the media to think enough is enough. Something has to be done to make it clear that vaccines are good and that the supposed problems the anti-vaccine crowed raise are, well, hogwash.

              I don't think that there is anything underhanded, nefarious, conspiratorial, or suspicious here. But it is time, in my opinion, that good reason, science, and the interests of public health reassert itself instead of letting pseudo-science continue with too weak a response.

              •  Thanks mc for the reply to my question. (0+ / 0-)

                As I said above, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, just someone who likes to make my own choices about what goes in my body.  Sometimes this means using vaccines.

                But there's always something nefarious about Pharma, imo.  Even when the particular products are useful or life-saving the companies are mostly concerned with extending patents, price-gouging, crushing cheaper alternatives, bribing Congress, creating monopolies, influencing researchers and slanting research their way, suppressing public awareness of risks, influencing doctors and hospitals to overuse their products, etc.  

                Just like Big Ag, Big Pharma is not "science" just because some of its products are made in a lab.  Though we can and must use their products, we trust them at our peril.

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    The ignorance, it burns.

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    Censorship is rogue government.

    by scott5js on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 02:18:41 PM PDT

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    Even still, Cloven Bundy should still go to jail for the rest of his life because stealing $1,000,000 from the American People is a very serious offense.

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