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As everyone who reads my posts can attest to, I am not a Charlie Crist supporter.  I have a very hard time believing that he has done a complete 180 degree turn on EVERY belief he has ever held in politics.  I realize that people evolve.  I realize that people CAN and DO change.  I just don’t believe that Charlie Crist has.  I genuinely believe that Crist wants back into the political game, by any means necessary, and now that means becoming a Democrat and saying all the things he thinks Democrats want to hear in order to get elected.

Most Florida Democrats are so hell bent on removing Rick Scott, that they are either turning a blind eye to the glaring flaws of Charlie Crist, or they simply don’t care, because in their opinion, anything is better than Rick Scott.  My vote means more to me than just removing an incumbent.  My vote is precious to me.  As a Black Woman, I have double the reason to hold my vote close to my heart, and to cast it in a way that truly reflects how I feel.  It took a very long time for Black Americans to get the vote, and even longer for women.

Quick history lesson:

1.Black men were granted the right to vote in 1870 with the ratification of the 15th amendment.The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.”)

2. Women’s suffrage was granted in 1920 with the ratification of the 19th amendment The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged in the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Given the fact that I am Black AND a woman, my vote means more to me than “going along with the crowd”.

The Democrats are supposed to be the party that accepts differing ideas and positions from its members. Democrats are supposed to be more tolerant than Republicans? Right? Well in this case, the answer is wrong.  I have been accused of working for Rick Scott, of being an undercover GOP operative, and a whole slew of other things by those on the left who want me to hand over my vote to someone I don’t believe in.

My response to that is very simple.  Call me what you will.  Imply what you will. My forefathers and foremothers worked very, very hard in order for me to be able to walk into a polling booth and cast my vote for WHOEVER I decide deserves it.  I will NOT be intimidated by anyone.  I will not cast my vote for just ANYONE.

Getting tweets such as this one from rabid Charlie Crist supporters does not and will not make me sacrifice my vote for their wishes.

Please go hereto see the tweet.

Being united on policies and principles doesn’t mean we are united on Candidates.  Being united in a party doesn’t mean that no one can ever have differing ideas.  Being united in a party certainly doesn’t mean calling someone a “GOP Plant” because they don’t support the candidate you support, who by the way WAS a GOP operative the majority of his political life.

If Charlie Crist wants to persuade those who will not be supporting him in a general election, why doesn’t he debate Nan Rich?  What is he hiding that he is afraid will come out during a debate?  Democrats are entitled to vet our options and see them in a side-by-side comparison.  For some reason, Charlie Crist refuses to give Florida Democrats that respect.

It is not the Democrats who won’t vote for Crist that are doing wrong.  It is Charlie Crist.  He needs to prove to voters that he is deserving of our hard earned, fought for, right to vote.  He hasn’t done that, and clearly doesn’t think it is necessary.  Guess what?  It IS necessary.

There are a large amount of Democrat voters in the counties of Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade who WILL stay home and not vote in a general match-up that features Charlie Crist and Rick Scott.

Charlie Crist can change that by showing us why we should vote for him.  I don’t care how loudly he proclaims that he is now a Democrat.  I don’t care how much money he shovels into the coffers of the Florida Democrat party. I don’t care how many of you call me a GOP plant.  I don’t care how many of you scream that not voting is essentially a vote for Rick Scott.

What I DO care about is casting my vote for someone that I think deserves it.  For that, I, and others who feel the same way, should be commended, not condemned.

Either way, I’m casting, or not casting, my vote in a way that allows me to feel comfortable about it.

For those that don’t like it, all I can tell you is that the choice is not yours, it’s mine.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

    by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 11:17:19 AM PDT

  •  Can you please (6+ / 0-)

    flesh out a bit why, exactly, you feel this way?

    I realize that people CAN and DO change.  I just don’t believe that Charlie Crist has.  
    What has he done or not done to make you believe he has not changed?

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 11:23:01 AM PDT

    •  You have it backwards (2+ / 0-)
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      happymisanthropy, lady blair

      I don't have to convince anyone.  Charlie Crist does, if he wants a growing chunk of south florida votes who currently won't be turning out for him in a general election. It doesn't matter why I think this, although him having been a pro-life, pro-gun, Republican until he lost his bid for Senate has something to do with it. What matters is that until he convinces that group of people, who may not be able to win the primary for Rich, but could certainly hand the general election over to Scott by not voting, this election is far from in the bag.  I want my two candidate options to debate.  I want to compare them side by side.  I want to see if I can tell whether he truly believes what he is now saying, live and against another Democrat, or not.  I deserve that much, if he wants my vote.

      "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

      by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 11:32:27 AM PDT

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      •  Sure it does! (4+ / 0-)


        It doesn't matter why I think this,

        That's why I asked, actually.
        although him having been a pro-life, pro-gun, Republican until he lost his bid for Senate has something to do with it
        So...you don't think he could have changed, since say, the Trayvon Martin travesty? That came after his "losing Senate bid"

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 11:35:37 AM PDT

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        •  apparently (0+ / 0-)

          I don't think he has changed, since in my first paragraph I stated that I didn't believe him. Isn't that what I said?

          "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

          by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 12:00:55 PM PDT

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          •  Are you not willing.. (6+ / 0-)

            to defend your accusation? His failure to convince you is not necessarily his fault. I want to know why you disbelieve him.

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            by Le Champignon on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 12:15:37 PM PDT

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            •  LOL! (0+ / 0-)

              All you need to know is that I don't believe him, and won't be voting for him. Isn't that what matters? I don't have to defend why I don't believe him.  It is enough for me that I don't.  If it isn't enough for you, that's too bad, because you don't control my vote.

              "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

              by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 12:19:39 PM PDT

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              •  Why the hell post a diary then? (10+ / 0-)

                If you aren't going to defend your stances in it it's pointless to voice them. I support your right to do so regardless, and I can understand not wanting to vote the 'lesser of two evils'. I'm suspect of Crist as well, but if he can ram just Medicaid expansion through that would save hundreds of thousands of lives, and that's enough to get my vote.

                I suppose it's much easier for me. I have Jason Carter, an honestly pretty decent candidate if not a 100% Progressive, vs a corrupt asshole Nathan Deal.

                Regardless of all that, I'd genuinely like to hear your overall gripe about Crist. Is it simply (Simply as in simple to understand, it IS a good reason) his past stances on things and his party jump? Because people do change their opinions rather rapidly, it does happen. So has something he's done made you think he's not being sincere?

                •  Excuse me? (0+ / 0-)

                  I'll post whatever the hell I want to post. Whenever and wherever I want to post it.  Just like I will vote the way that I want to vote, and it won't be for Charlie Crist.

                  "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

                  by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 02:07:23 PM PDT

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                  •  the truth comes out (4+ / 0-)
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                    Just like I will vote the way that I want to vote, and it won't be for Charlie Crist.
                    That is just a wee bit different than your earlier statement that you wanted to see him debate first.  
                  •  Good for you. (3+ / 0-)
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                    wilderness voice, roycej, trkingmomoe

                    All those Democrats who voted for Ralph Nader felt their votes were precious, too.  So good luck if Scott is re-elected.  Hope you'll like living in the New Texas.  Oh, and you're black and female?  Yeah, that will be very precious in the New Texas.

                    "American conservatism is still, after all these years, largely driven by claims that liberals are taking away your hard-earned money and giving it to Those People. " Paul Krugman

                    by yippee ki yay on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 02:51:27 PM PDT

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                    •  I'm Black and Female (0+ / 0-)

                      and living in Florida now.  What is your point? My vote is precious, and I'll do with it what I choose.  Why is that hard to understand?

                      "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

                      by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 03:47:52 PM PDT

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                      •  It's not hard to understand. (1+ / 0-)
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                        wilderness voice

                        I just wanted to point out the folly of your thinking.
                        Let's see;
                        1.  What did the people who voted for Nader get?
                        2.  Do you like standing in long lines in order to exercise your precious vote?  Minorities are predominately disenfranchised of their Constitutionally protected right to vote.
                        3.  You must not care about the right to choose what happens to your body or even if you get paid equally for the same work done by men.
                        The good news is you've got plenty of time to consider the pros and cons of your decision.

                        "American conservatism is still, after all these years, largely driven by claims that liberals are taking away your hard-earned money and giving it to Those People. " Paul Krugman

                        by yippee ki yay on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 05:00:19 PM PDT

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                  •  That is just not going to endear you to anyone (1+ / 0-)
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                    wilderness voice

                    here. At all. There are people here fifteen years on that still can't get over their Ralph Nader fixation. They'll have you for lunch, and it probably won't be as a guest...

                    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

                    by lunachickie on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 03:32:42 PM PDT

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              •  Wow (3+ / 0-)
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                quill, wilderness voice, VeggiElaine

                So is this what you meant by your diary title, then?  Damn, I was simply trying to get a little insight.

                I'm not completely thrilled that the person with the best chance to actually win in November is an ex-Republican, but as you noted, people can change. Feel free to be angry with the guy, but this voter is giving him the benefit of the doubt. You know why? He actually did a half-decent job as governor of Florida when he was a Republican and he's still popular here. And that's more than you can say for Governor Voldemoort, he's a felon and a sleaze who is destroying this state. He has got to go.

                 We ran an unknown entity in 2010 and got beat. We can't afford for that to happen again. Nobody knows who Nan Rich is. Charlie Crist has huge name recognition and he is--whether you like it or not--a Democrat now. And he is polling best out of all of them and we need to get rid of that rat bastard who has just about run this state into the ground.

                You're entitled to your opinion. I'm glad you feel comfortable voting for Nan Rich, but she's got to make it through the primary. Good luck. I hope if she loses the primary, that you'll get in line for Charlie Crist. Sometimes, that's the way we have to roll.
                 

                This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

                by lunachickie on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 02:32:00 PM PDT

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                •  You can vote for him (0+ / 0-)

                  which is your right.  I don't disrespect you for that.  What I won't do, however, is vote for him. I won't "get in line" by any means.  The group of South Florida Dems that feel the same as I do is growing, and growing.

                  "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

                  by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 02:46:58 PM PDT

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                  •  oh really? (2+ / 0-)
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                    The group of South Florida Dems that feel the same as I do is growing, and growing.
                    Anybody at all actually saying so besides your little army of one? Link?
                  •  OK, so (2+ / 0-)
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                    this   is really helpful.

                    What I won't do, however, is vote for him. I won't "get in line" by any means....There are a large amount of Democrat voters in the counties of Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade who WILL stay home and not vote in a general match-up that features Charlie Crist and Rick Scott
                    Putting aside the fact that's your opinion, South Florida isn't enough to carry this state. And I do not believe for a minute that Dems there won't turn out in November to vote for the Democrat, whether it's Charlie Crist or not. I suspect we all want to win.

                    Sorry you feel that way. Like I said, good luck--particularly here, if Crist is the candidate.

                    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

                    by lunachickie on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 02:56:11 PM PDT

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                    •  It isn't just opinion (0+ / 0-)

                      It's fact.  There may not be enough to win the primary for Nan, but there sure are enough that Crist will need them against Scott.

                      "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

                      by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 03:41:59 PM PDT

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                      •  LOL! (2+ / 0-)
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                        wilderness voice, skohayes

                        So where's your cite for this, if it's "fact"? One need not provide such a thing for "opinion", of course.

                        I don't think you speak for South Florida Democrats at all. I've met a bunch of them, and one thing they are not is stupid. They won't sit it out, they've got way too much at stake, just like the rest of us do.

                        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

                        by lunachickie on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 03:52:00 PM PDT

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                        •  It has been written about (0+ / 0-)

                          by others aside from me.  Take a lookhere.

                          I'm not sure why you can't imagine that there will be plenty of South Florida Dems, especially women, who will not vote for Crist.

                          "Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery".......Bob Marley

                          by Leslie123 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 04:11:49 PM PDT

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                          •  Oh, goodie (0+ / 0-)

                            an op-ed blog from the newspaper! Yes, that's so very, very indicative of all the voters in the entire region.

                            I imagine there are plenty of folks who share your "concern", but if you want to add them to the "I'm not voting for Crist even if I have to sit out the election" list, after he wins the primary, you'll find yourself having a real hard time doing it here. You're absolutely free to not "get in line" all you want, but if Crist is the candidate in the general, a diary like this one will get you a visit from Dr. Banhammer in real short order.
                             

                            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

                            by lunachickie on Sun Apr 20, 2014 at 08:52:18 AM PDT

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                      •  ..."Democrat" voters...? (3+ / 0-)

                        First you write this:

                        There are a large amount of Democrat voters in the counties of Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade who WILL stay home and not vote...

                        ...Then this:

                        There may not be enough to win the primary for Nan, but there sure are enough that Crist will need them against Scott.
                        I don't think you're a Democrat voter... I think you're on the wrong website.

                        Poverty is not an accident. Like slavery and apartheid, it is man-made and can be removed by the actions of human beings. —Nelson Mandela

                        by kaliope on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 07:16:14 PM PDT

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  •  Sometimes it is (6+ / 0-)

    just as important to vote against something/someone than it is to be for something/someone.

    And in many cases in our current environment, it is even more so.

    If your only choices are Rick Scott and Charlie Crist, I hope to what ever you deem sacred, that you vote for Crist.

    We have seen what Scott is doing to Florida.  I don't know how anyone could live with themselves if they let that happen again - because the chose not to vote because they were not FOR either candidate.

  •  the adjective we Democrats use to describe (9+ / 0-)
    There are a large amount of Democrat voters
    ourselves is Democratic.  Using "Democrat" for this purpose is a ReThug insult.  

    I had a look at that tweet you objected to and agree with it 100%.  So you don't believe Charlie Christ is who he says he is.  Why should I believe you are who you say you are?

  •  I'm not sure why you wrote this diary. (7+ / 0-)

    Did you want people to be interested in why you don't like Crist, and perhaps move them to your side? Obviously not.
    Listen, if you just want to come here and rant and be rude to people who are trying to engage you (quite politely), please stop wasting our time, and put at the top of the diary:

    I came here to give my opinion, and if you don't like it, tough nuggies, I don't have to explain myself to you.
    That will save us all a lot of time in the future, should you choose to post any more diaries.

    Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

    by skohayes on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 02:32:25 PM PDT

  •  Florida? (2+ / 0-)
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    by all means vote for whoever you want..even if that means you get the same thing you always got. I'm sure you're use to it..I know I am. and I don't live there. Hope your vote counts, and that you don't have to wait too long to vote!

  •  "The Florida Democrat Party" Really? nt (7+ / 0-)
  •  Did the diarist mean to write "democratic?" (3+ / 0-)
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    kaliope, lady blair, wilderness voice

    When I see someone calling it the "Democrat" Party, I suspect a stealth Republican.

  •  You have every right to vote your conscience (5+ / 0-)

    but your purity vote affects other people who do not want a  crook for a governor and do not have the luxury to move or even healthcare.  Your vote matters.  One vote matters.  

    I think even as a republican, Charlie was more of a DEMOCRAT than some of the blue dog democrats of the DEMOCRATIC Party of Florida.

      Not casting a vote ..is your right,   Does that no vote mean that Charlie Crist should have not decided to choose which party he felt more comfortable with?  He should have stayed Republican to satisfy just one aspect of democratic voters?   Does that mean he felt his party moved too far right to fit anymore and he should have stayed ?   It's just a label you know.
    Does that mean he does not fit your entire purity test of the perfect platform candidate?  Because even the most liberal of democrats do not satisfy everyone.  There are many democratic types from the conservative, liberal, yellow dog, blue dog and moderate.  I tell you the truth though...Rich Scott appeals to none of the above including many in his own party.

    You are perfectly correct in saying it is your vote.  It is.
    Of course with Rick Scott as governor, you have a chance your AA vote won't count anyway.  He has done everything to suppress YOUR one vote.  Good luck with continuing down that road !

    Just how much Koch do Right Wingers want in their life? . United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 06:08:34 PM PDT

  •  Charlie Crist may not (2+ / 0-)
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    be many the choice of many in the DemocratIC party, but Nan Rich is not the answer, IMHO. I've heard her speak, I know she's sincere, but the GOP will eat her alive. She doesn't have what it takes to run at the state level. I don't deny she is an awesome progressive, she lacks the "it" factor, lacks charisma & lacks national support. I'm not posting to persuade or say you are right or wrong, just adding my opinion to this diary. Our state needs a BETTER leader than the one we have now. But in truth, our beliefs and principles will be irrelevant if voters do NOT vote.

    •  I agree. I have also heard her speak. (1+ / 0-)
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      She is very sincere but is out of her league.  This is going to be a real blood sport when the big dollars from the outside groups come rolling in.

      There are a group of supporters that have worked very hard on her campaign in her home turf that are upset about Crist not even recognizing her as an opponent. Her pole numbers are very low and very few know who she is outside of Miami.  He is keeping his powder dry by not debating her.  He will go after Rick Scott and the deep pocket Republicans that own Scott. This race is going to be real hard ball nasty.

      I saw a week or so ago on the local news were Crist walked up to the current Lt.Gov. and shook his hand while the Lt. Gov. was complaining about Crist's lying about Scott.  Then the reporters chased after Crist wanting him to say something about what the Lt.Gov. just said and Crist shook his head no and said "give me Scott," and walked away.  Crist is in general campaign mode now.  He gave a blistering speech last week raking Scott over the coals.

      Her home town is not going to sit this one out.  'They want Scott's head as bad as the rest of us.

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