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Back in 2012, when Romney was making Obamacare's employer mandate to cover birth control in health insurance policies a thing, polling showed that he was barking up the wrong tree. Even with Catholics. That Public Religion Research Institute showed 55 percent support for the mandate. That support is still there, and stronger than ever.
Most Americans—69 percent—support the requirement that health insurance plans pay for birth control, a new survey shows. […]

"Overall, 69 percent of respondents supported mandated coverage of birth control medications in health plans, with significantly higher odds of support among women, black, and Hispanic respondents," they wrote in a report published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

While 77 percent of women support the mandate, a very respectable 64 percent of men do, too. The least amount of support is in the group that has the least need for it, people 60 and older. But still, 62 percent of them believe health insurance plans should include birth control. African Americans register the highest degree of support at 81 percent, followed by Hispanics at 76 percent.

Unfortunately the survey that matters most right now politically, with the Hobby Lobby challenge to the law being considered right now, is what five old men on the Supreme Court think.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 09:09 AM PDT.

Also republished by Feminism, Pro-Feminism, Womanism: Feminist Issues, Ideas, & Activism and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (35+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 09:09:09 AM PDT

  •  Thanks Joan nt (7+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 09:13:33 AM PDT

  •  Nit: What 5 Old Men SAY. (1+ / 0-)

    There is no important relationship between what conservatives say and what they think.

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    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 09:23:33 AM PDT

  •  We must fight back. (8+ / 0-)

    The purpose of  the Hobby Lobby case is to delegitimize birth control as a form of preventive healthcare. The forced-birthers want people to view birth control as something slutty women use, and that will make it easier to restrict access to it. Just like abortion is viewed as something other than a cheap safe medical procedure, and that has made it easier to defund access to it, or outright ban it as we're seeing today: http://rhrealitycheck.org/...

  •  5 old mostly white Catholic men. n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  I need some help here. (0+ / 0-)

    My family has never been in a Company Sponsored health plan that excluded birth control. Abortions, yes.  We could discuss whether abortion is just birth control, but I won't go there.

    You can get rubbers at any drug store.

    You can get a month's worth of pills for $10 bucks a month at Walmart.

    Why does this have to be described as "free"?  Because it ain't free, someone is paying for it somewhere.  

    If the apparent preference for abortion as the preferred method of birth control is the preferred procedure (despite our leaders repeatingly saying "available yet limited in response to political winds) and it is available, why the kerfuffle?

    Serious here. Please explain this.

    "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

    by EdMass on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 10:06:38 AM PDT

    •  Because, by describing it as free, rather (5+ / 0-)

      than something she earned as part of her earnings, it's made to be something given to her.  We all know someone paid for it, but saying free means it's not her.  And that means that men and old people are paying for it, which is something they can get outraged over.

      "Harass us, because we really do pay attention. Look at who's on the ballot, and vote for the candidate you agree with the most. The next time, you get better choices." - Barney Frank

      by anonevent on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 10:15:59 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Cheap Birth control pills??? (4+ / 0-)

      To get pills, you need a prescription, which means a doctor visit.  And only $10???  Maybe some brands, but I know that when my daughter was prescribed them back in about 2005, her doctor insisted on a specific type, which wasn't covered by her insurance, and they were $50/month.  Maybe somebody can explain the types and why some are cheap.

      I look out and all I can see is white.

      by Andy Cook on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 10:53:28 AM PDT

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      •  expensive birth control choices (4+ / 0-)

        While a few birth control hormones are very cheap due to being around forever and generic for eons, there are always newer, more modern blends of hormones that may cause less side effects or simply work better for certain people than the old ones. You would drop your jaw is you saw the birth control pill selection at your neighborhood pharmacy! Regular dose, lo dose, 21 day 28 day, 2 hormones, 3 hormones, even chewables. Some women go through 3 or 4 different ones before finding the one that causes them the least emotional imbalance/weight gain etc etc. Some brand names have 3 or 4 generics. man y doctors find that one in particular works for the majority and won't prescribe anything else, even if it's 75 bucks after insurance. if you are lucky enough to be able to use/tolerate the most common generics (Sprintec, Tri-Sprintec) you can get them for as low as 10 dollars without insurance at Walmart or wherever. But that's it. Just those 2 as far as I know. But yes you still have to pay for a doctor visit and hope you are able to take the cheap ones.
        If a woman is paying monthly premiums for her health insurance why should she NOT be able to get what she is paying for??

        •  Sorry for the typos. n/t (0+ / 0-)
        •  I am not aware (0+ / 0-)

          of an insurance plan that does not cover birth control.  Hobby Lobby is about aborticants if I understand correctly.  Their existing health coverage covers and provides for birth control.

          What health insurance are you talking about?  Or birth control = abortion?  Which?  What?

          Oh, for those commenting on the cost of a Dr's visit to get a prescription, isn't that why we support Planned Parenthood and other such clinics?

          "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

          by EdMass on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 11:48:05 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  You're behind the curve, man (2+ / 0-)
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            They're launching a stealth attack on birth control by claiming (falsely, and against all scientific evidence) that "certain types of" birth control are "abortifacients" and it is "against the company's religion" to "have to" have their health insurance policy cover them.

            They had NOOOOO problem with it whatsoever as long as Bush the Lesser was in the White House. Draw your own conclusions as to why they're kicking up such a stupid fuss now.

            As to Planned Parenthood, it too has been viciously, mindlessly, and pointlessly ravaged by the Reich Wing "because abortion".

            If it's
            Not your body,
            Then it's
            Not your choice
            And it's
            None of your damn business!

            by TheOtherMaven on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 12:28:27 PM PDT

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          •  I am not aware (0+ / 0-)

            if you stopped right there, you'd be right!

        •  I'm glad to hear about the different types now. (0+ / 0-)

          I had to give up the pill (and go for sterilization) by the time I hit 30 because the few choices on the market caused unacceptable side effects. And yes, insurance absolutely should cover this, as many women take the pill for other issues, including irregular periods and acne. Not that it should matter-- it's nobody's business but her doctor's why she takes it.

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          by smileycreek on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 02:05:39 PM PDT

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      •  Just go to those 7/11s that Dolan (0+ / 0-)

        says have birth control.

        I'll always be...King of Bain...I'll always be...King of Bain

        by AZphilosopher on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 07:48:36 AM PDT

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  •  Until we kick enough Congresspeople (3+ / 0-)
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    out of office that are against contraception for women, they won't change, and that means this will continue to influence the Supreme Court.  

    I know we like to say that Democrats have to give us a reason to vote, but this is one more case where Republicans are giving us a good enough reason.

    "Harass us, because we really do pay attention. Look at who's on the ballot, and vote for the candidate you agree with the most. The next time, you get better choices." - Barney Frank

    by anonevent on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 10:17:47 AM PDT

    •  They give you plenty of reasons (1+ / 0-)
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      If the last 3 years of GOP rule in the House and mid-west states is not a good enough reason, then there never will be one good enough.  In 2010 too many thought it didn't matter who was in office and didn't bother to get out and vote.  Each day since brings new examples of how wrong that was.

      The likelihood of their being an opening on the Supreme Court in the next two years seems pretty high.   If the GOP controls the Senate, you can forget seeing any Obama nominee confirmed.    You can expect bill after bill sent to the President repealing the ACA.  You can expect even worse.  Same with the states.   The ACA contraceptive issue is just the harbinger of what will come.

      The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones! - John Maynard Keynes

      by Do Something on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 10:56:07 AM PDT

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  •  Is that a goat? (0+ / 0-)

    Signed, the GOP.

  •  Don't Tread On Me. (0+ / 0-)

    What is that? Some kind of homemade ballerina slipper made from Hobby Lobby bric-a-brac? Haven't women been forced to tip toe around their reproductive rights long enough?
    Well, I'm proud to be a very respectable 64 percenter. Let's dance.


    I envy people who are made of money. I've always wanted to take a ride inside of a vending machine.

    by glb3 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 10:22:48 AM PDT

  •  The Best Thing of the 20th Century (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, arlene, runfastandwin

    has been the development of birth control which completely severs sex and reproduction and as such is used to oppresss women.  That's why the right-=wing fights so hard against it.  

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

    by Kangaroo on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 11:20:09 AM PDT

  •  Has anyone asked their insurer? (0+ / 0-)

    What sort of discount they would get for a policy on a fertile-age female with vs without birth control coverage? I have to expect it would be cheaper with contreception as this having babies or having to chemically or surgically abort them are all way, way more expensive than birth control.

  •  Other Prescription Contraceptives (0+ / 0-)

    Hormonal implants and intrauterine devices (IUDs) are good methods for women who have chaotic lives.  For them, having to remember to take a pill every day can be problematic.  Other women have to cope with men who covertly sabotage their contraception.  Long term, safe and effective contraception is a good choice for them as well.  Unfortunately, IUDs and implants have a high up-front cost that puts them out of reach of poor women.  Having these alternatives covered without a co-pay makes them available for low-income women.

    As I have said before,  Planned Parenthood and low-cost clinics are not McDonalds.  They can be found in urban areas, but women in rural areas have to count on their local physician or practitioner for an exam and prescription.

    Don't look back, something may be gaining on you. - L. "Satchel" Paige

    by arlene on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 12:17:17 PM PDT

  •  It is outrageous in this day and age we (3+ / 0-)
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    are still having to "defend" the right of a woman's control over her own body.  The use of contraception and the choice of its many forms is not just for young women to use for their protection against an unwanted pregnancy, but is vital for the young married women, their husbands, and the  children they already have.  

    How outrageous to not include contraception in your medical insurance package when it is vital to the physical health of the policyholder, her mental health, and if she is married, to the financial health of her family.

    Oral contraception, BTW, is prescribed for several medical conditions, not 'just" to prevent pregnancy.

    Abortion is a legal procedure, and here, again, there are a myriad of reasons other than "just" terminating a pregnancy for termination's sake.  

    A woman's reproductive health whether it be part of a contraceptive regimen, or an abortion, is a doctor-patient decision and action.  Why is their controversy as to whether a woman's reproductive system should or should not be part of her insurance plan?  Certainly, we would never think of doing this to men; Viagra and the prostate is very much a part of their health coverage.

    In this day and age it is outrageous that this topic is still being questioned, undermined, and sabotaged.

    Your health insurance must and should cover your whole being, that is what you buy it for.  

    The bottom line is simply:  If you are against abortion, don't have one; if you are against the use of contraception, don't use it.

    It is  your right, not those 5 men on the Supreme Court, your employer, or your church to dictate to you, and worst of all, to take away your legal right to health protection.

  •  I would think (0+ / 0-)

    99 percent of men would be in favor, but I guess that's just the way I think.

  •  Men like birth control too. (0+ / 0-)

    Why do I have the feeling George W. Bush joined the Stonecutters, ate a mess of ribs, and used the Constitution as a napkin?

    by Matt Z on Wed Apr 23, 2014 at 02:39:14 PM PDT

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