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Let me be clear here. For the past two weeks it has been entertaining to watch the implosion from Nevada as the faux cowboy Bundy has been revealed as a racist anti government conservative. It wasn't particularly a huge shocker to many here in the community who intuitively spotted the mans racist dog whistles.

Can I ask a simple question though? Are we CNN? Do we need to follow every singular aspect of this story as if it is a missing plane? I hope not. I'm on a bus going to DC right now and have been searching for more news here on Net Neutrality. I understand that it is not a sexy topic and have read Joan's reporting on it but comparatively speaking they are not even in the same league together.

One issue fundmentally changes the nature of the internet, innovation, and our community while the other affects no one beyond outrage over his words and revealing (shockingly) that republicans are racist.

Currently the petition at WhiteHouse.gov has garnered over 21,000 signatures but is still short the 25k it needs to have an official response.

Please go   here and sign if you have not already.

I thought this was a great analogy from our own Pajoly

we can think about this as being more important than just access or even high speed access. It's about what's placed inside that access. Here's another analogy. I'll use Halloween. This might be a little weak...
House 1: There a big tub of pretty much every candy you can imagine, not a one of them the same. The homeowner smiles and invites you dig through and pick a few most appealing to you. Bonanza!
-- That's the Internet today for a high speed subscriber.
House 2: Nice lady there too. No big tub, but a small bowl. Still, none of the candies are alike and she welcomes you to pick the one you want. That ain't so bad. Still boundless choice, no restrictions on what you pick.
-- That's the Internet today for a rural subscriber with no speed access.
House 3: Ornery dude there annoyed by your presence. He points to big bucket on the porch overflowing with just two types of candy - little packs of Amazon candy corn or a piece of Wal-Mart bubble gum. Behind him you can see some pre-made bags, each filled with quite a few of the top brand candies. You say, "Trick or treat!" He says, "Basic or premium. Premium will cost ya." "Umm, basic then please." He reaches in, grabs a piece of Wal-Mart bubble gum and puts in your bag. "Now scram kid."
-- That's kinda like the Internet if Net Neutrality dies.
I am pulling into DC now & writing this on my phone but I can't stress the importance of focusing on Net Neutrality right now over entertaining side shows. I'mnot sure how in the long run how Bundy will change my life but if the FCC chairman Wheeler has his proposed rules adopted we will be turning the internet from a free society into an oligarchy. One lane for those who can pay & one for the poor who can not. Haven't we gone down that road enough already?

Look at the cast opposition coming from Dems in the house & senate. Let's support them and beat back this ever encroaching hydra that will continue to grow new heads with each defeat.

Originally posted to Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 06:33 AM PDT.

Also republished by Kossack Initiated White House Petitions.

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  •  Yes, this is important (21+ / 0-)

    Also, it's a good idea to call or send a letter to your congressional representatives. And the president.

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    by JamieG from Md on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 06:39:40 AM PDT

    •  It is heartening to see a lot of oppositional (22+ / 0-)

      rhetoric coming from our top party leaders on this. Why are isp's so determined to change the internet? Well because of people like me who can't afford 129.99 for basic cable/internet & instead pay 29.99 + a netflix subscription to consume the media I want. To say nothing of couch tuner which is one of the only ways I can watch current programming. These companies are like dinosaurs and have been heavily subsidized by the government but continue to charge more for crappier service than other industrialized nations.

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 06:46:03 AM PDT

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      •  The Democratic Party... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...has spent a lot of its recent history being wrong on censorship and technology, from the Tipper Gore and Fritz Hollings music and video game censorship movements, to the recent FCC decisions made under a Democratic administration.  It's been one area where I've had to hold my nose and vote for Democratic candidates anyway because even as tied to technology as my life and career is, they were the greater good/lesser evil option every time.

        If our Democratic elected officials can actually put policy in place to match their opinions on this topic -- and this is an area where peeling off Republicans that have a strong libertarian streak is possible to get such policy through a divided Congress -- it would truly remove one of the greatest gripes I've had with the party.

        Everyday Magic

        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
        -- Clarke's Third Law

        by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 11:30:44 AM PDT

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  •  As I am on my phone Dailykos won't let (25+ / 0-)

    me edit my diary right now but I wanted to amend this before it got derailed:

    AS OF JANUARY 15, 2013:

    To cross the first threshold and be searchable within WhiteHouse.gov, a petition must reach 150 signatures within 30 days.

    To cross the second threshold and require a response, a petition must reach 100,000 signatures within 30 days.

    The Terms of Participation were updated on January 15, 2013. View our Terms of Participation Archive page to see the previous version

    This makes it even more important that we keep this at the forefront.

    “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

    by Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 06:50:23 AM PDT

    •  Well, ain't that news! (10+ / 0-)

      I guess as of not-2012, they're not as interested in interacting with us as they were before...wonder why?(snark)

      Srsly, I'm heartened that there is congressional opposition, but it behooves us to remember that the guy who's advancing this is an Obama appointee. I signed the petition days ago, but I'm skeptical about its potential impact.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:08:44 AM PDT

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  •  Think about it (17+ / 0-)

    What would it be like to not have a free (in the sense that it is not owned) internet.  

    The internet is a powerful contribution to learning, activism, politics, commerce - you name it.

    This is no time to have big business or congressional influence messing with the internet and what it does for you and I, our economy and our freedom.

    If anything, we should have a free - absolutely free - and secure internet available to and funded by our tax dollars.  In fact, we nee Obamacare for the internet, auto insurance and  home owners insurance.

    Comcast is ripping me off to the tune of $75/month for internet access mostly because there are no viable other options in my area; I would love to pay the $75/month for a free, open and POWERFUL (speedy) internet to include WiFi.

    •  I would love to have free wi-if through out (15+ / 0-)

      the country. We have a lot of the infrastructure in place to make a project like that happen but as we have seen in 20 odd states that have passed laws prohibiting the local governments from providing free wifi (thank you ALEC & Koch bros) we face an uphill battle in accomplishing that. We have to hold the line on net neutrality & no amount of "Netflix is teh evil using der bandwidth" is going to convince me that at the heart of this issue is maintaining an open, free & innovative playing field that doesn't go all Ayn Rand & pick. "Winners. & losers in life"

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 06:57:52 AM PDT

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      •  Former Mayor Menino of Boston (11+ / 0-)

        (Boston's longest serving Mayor, by the way, and he only retired because he has cancer and that's another diary) wanted to have free wi-fi for the city of Boston.

        Yep, the same old Boston-Italian guy who personally raised the Pride flag outside City Hall every June and made sure it flew ALL MONTH and campaigned like an old Ward-heeler, and was called "Mumbles" by everyone including Barney Frank (who also mumbles) wanted to have free access throughout Boston to the internet. Why? Because he thought it would be a great equalizer and help economically disadvantaged students.

        Say what you want about Mumbles, but his heart was always in the right place.

        Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

        by commonmass on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:34:36 AM PDT

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    •  That's just it right there. (2+ / 0-)
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      Comcast is ripping me off to the tune of $75/month for internet access mostly because there are no viable other options in my area; I would love to pay the $75/month for a free, open and POWERFUL (speedy) internet to include WiFi.
      I'd have a lot less of an issue with the FCC's proposed rules gutting net neutrality if the consumer really did have a choice between multiple providers; as our right-wing friends might say, let the market decide whether consumers want an internet limited to those websites that can pay, or an open and free internet. I think the choice would be pretty clear.

      But that's not the case thanks to corporations colluding with one another to "carve up" territory, and with state and local governments to give themselves monopolies over high-speed internet. Some states, at the behest of cable giants, have even made it illegal for municipalities or other public entities to set up internet service as a city-run utility or implement free wifi.

      I'd be willing to make that deal: Let cable companies have some easing of the rules to make certain sites faster (but none slower than current base rates)—so that Comcast et al. could make deals with, say, Netflix to get better streaming, but couldn't slow Amazon down to a crawl because they couldn't pay.

      In return, the cable companies agree that all of the infrastructure they have laid is now common-carrier (like Ma Bell), and consumers will now be free to contract with whatever internet service provider they choose over the common cable network. Other ISPs will have to pay the cable-layer a fee for using their infrastructure, but that fee will be tightly regulated and controlled, directly related to the cost of maintaining and expanding that infrastructure to the benefit of all ISPs utilizing it. And they drop any support of state laws banning free public wifi.

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:48:32 AM PDT

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      •  That's not technically possible. (0+ / 0-)

        At least, not without building out a completely separate, parallel set of infrastructure.

        In order to achieve a "fast line", what that means is that the routers a provider is using to send traffic along their network are configured to prioritize packets from another source...which as a consequence, reduces the priority of every packet not given that sort of priority.

        You can fake it by doing what Comcast/Netflix did by interconnecting their networks inside a data center, since that has the effect of reducing round trip time and latency, but once that traffic's on its way to you, it's still given the same priority (or at least, subject to the already existing traffic shaping rules) traveling through the network.

        Everyday Magic

        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
        -- Clarke's Third Law

        by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 02:26:39 PM PDT

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  •  Signed. (12+ / 0-)

    Seriously sign please sign sign sign.  Prove that more than 200 people read this website and care.

    When we talk about war, we're really talking about peace.

    by genethefiend on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:03:42 AM PDT

  •  This is why today's "left" sucks (18+ / 0-)

    It fixates on all the terrible things the other side does and all that's wrong with the US today instead of focusing on actually DOING something about it. We're like a movement of "concerned" rubberneckers gawking at the accident on the side of the road but doing nothing to help the victims.

    Sorry, folks, but all this outrage and concern--the basis of MSNBC's allegedly "progressive" primetime and morning weekend shows--does NOTHING to fix anything. It just gives one the illusion of doing something useful and allows one to pat oneself on the back for being better than those other people.

    Bundy is this week's Christie, to be replaced by next week's faux outrage. Meantime, there's actual problems out there that need to be dealt with.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:06:33 AM PDT

    •  Outrage is useful... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...but only insofar as it spurs action to correct it.  I know that I've lost sight of that at times (hell, I think you've been one of the ones I've lost it on), and it can be really easy to lose sight of the actions we need to take as progressives and liberals if all we do is feed on outrage rather than using it to inspire sound policy and prudent action.

      But like I've said elsewhere in this thread, you don't even get to hear about the outrageous things that happen without an open Internet.

      Everyday Magic

      Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
      -- Clarke's Third Law

      by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 12:39:30 PM PDT

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  •  I have missed the information about (5+ / 0-)

    The recent court ruling and this proposal.  I thought the court ruling was going to interfere with net neutrality. I'm just confused.

    The 'shift' is hitting the fan.

    by sydneyluv on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:09:54 AM PDT

    •  The court case is the impetus (3+ / 0-)
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      The great debate is over who should do what about the ruling.

      The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District Columbia Circuit on Tuesday ruled that the FCC does not have the authority to implement the rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Web traffic.
      While the Telecommunications Act of 1996 allows the FCC to "promulgate rules governing broadband providers' treatment of Internet traffic," the commission cannot contradict Congress, Judge David Tatel wrote in the decision. "Given that the Commission has chosen to classify broadband providers in a manner that exempts them from treatment as common carriers, the Communications Act expressly prohibits the commission from nonetheless regulating them as such."
      The court's decision, he said, means that "confusion over the proper role of the FCC is greater than ever."
      http://www.computerworld.com/...

      To add to the confusion this issue plays into the endless rox/sux wars on whether Obama is displaying evil corporatist tendencies in "allowing" this to happen.

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:54:03 AM PDT

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  •  and while we're at it, less shiny object du jour (17+ / 0-)

    and more attention on the greatest threat facing the next few generations of humanity, please?

  •  Possibly another way to make this (13+ / 0-)

    excellent point:

    Without open internet access, what would we know about Cliven Bundy? Would we know that he lies every time he opens his mouth, or would we know what the corporate media wish us to know?

    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

    by sidnora on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:13:27 AM PDT

    •  That is a great point. Without mass communication (8+ / 0-)

      we wouldn't be able to call out Bundy as a racist so darned fast to say the least!

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:27:42 AM PDT

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    •  This, this, 100x this. (3+ / 0-)
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      Remember, there was one media reporter and one media camera there when Bundy held the press conference in which he spewed his original racist claptrap.

      You only know about him because of an open Internet.  Is what he says and the actions he and his ilk/supporters have taken something that should be recognized and denounced?

      Of course.

      But you won't hear about the next Cliven Bundy if we don't preserve Net Neutrality until we can get all telecommunications mediums like cable and wireless regulated as common carriers.  It achieves two goals:  an open Internet so we can hear about events like these, and stops the rent-seeking behavior of companies like Comcast and Time Warner Cable by introducing competition at the service level without requiring your streets getting dug up every time a new competitor wants to come into town.

      Everyday Magic

      Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
      -- Clarke's Third Law

      by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 12:43:59 PM PDT

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  •  Thanks for the diary (7+ / 0-)

    signed the petition the day it went up.
    Also thanks for the couchtuner reference.

  •  Tool! Mimi and I are stuck in traffic! (4+ / 0-)
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    I'm gonna text you now. :)

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    by peregrine kate on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:16:02 AM PDT

  •  There are a lot of petitions going around (6+ / 0-)

    I swear I signed a White House Gov Net Neutrality Petition already.  Is there more than one? This one let me sign it again so I assume there must be.

    Why yes there is a war on women and minorities.

    by karma5230 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:25:19 AM PDT

    •  There are more than one. This one (3+ / 0-)
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      is on the White House's petition website.  If it gets 100,000 sigs, it will get an official response from the White House.  I've signed this one, as well as one that was on the kos front page.

      "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

      by middleagedhousewife on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:23:39 AM PDT

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  •  Can't get through to sign the petition (6+ / 0-)

    I get a message that tells me I have to re-set my password (due to Heartbleed problem).  WH web site then tells me its sending instructions to re-set password to my email address, but....waiting...waiting......waiting.....no email.

    I'm sure they're not trying to discourage people from signing the petition, right?  

    Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

    by Betty Pinson on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:26:33 AM PDT

    •  Keep trying, Betty. I had to do the same thing, (4+ / 0-)
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      and then the link I got was not to the reset password page.  Even so, it logged me in, and I could sign the petition (just open Tool's link in a new tab and click sign if this happens to you).  That site has always had annoying bugs, but people are signing this petition this morning -- 77,791 sigs to go, down from 77,799 10 min ago.  

      "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

      by middleagedhousewife on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:29:21 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for the activism reality check, (9+ / 0-)

    friend.

    Bundy is fun to discuss, but while assholes like him are getting their 15 minutes of fame, really important stuff is happening.

    When we're done with Bundy, you're right, net neutrality and the Trans-Pacific Partnership job-killing trade agreement will still be there and ultimately, more important.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:28:01 AM PDT

    •  I won't lie that it has been pretty (5+ / 0-)

      entertaining the last few weeks watching this guy. Heck we were even talking about it at the meet up in NYC last night. I was counting down & lost a friendly bet about how long it would take Bundy to go full racist. He was at half racist before but the longer he talked...but yeah Commonmass..when Bundy fades this issue will still be here and we really should be focusing our attention on it.

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:44:08 AM PDT

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  •  Right wing racism must be repeatedly exposed (8+ / 0-)

    I recommended this diary for its call to action but I also recommended Teacherken's diary that reminded us of the horrors of slavery.

    The Nevada story exposes the nature of the Republican base, which, surprise, is the blunt tool that the oligarchs use to suppress progressive action. Racism is the motivation provided by the oligarchs to divide and rule and keep the 99% down.

    “Industry does everything they can and gets away with it almost all the time, whether it’s the coal industry, not the subject of this hearing, or water or whatever. They will cut corners, and they will get away with it. " Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D, WVa

    by FishOutofWater on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:40:22 AM PDT

    •  Thank you (4+ / 0-)

      Why can't both stories be important?  What's next, a diary called "Less Net Neutrality, More Climate Change."?  There's room for everything here.  Disparaging one story to promote your own is the wrong way to go about these things.

      "Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred." Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by djbender on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 07:57:10 AM PDT

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  •  Wow! thanks for the pushback (5+ / 0-)
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    I dared to make this comment

    "Wow, does this site ever give Bundy a lot of (1+ / 0-)
    attention. Really is he worth it?"
    and I got over a dozen replies defending the coverage and the usual "if don't like it, don't read it."

    I think the rec list should be current, articles shouldn't stay on for more than 24 hours. And maybe the dozens of articles on the same subject could be pooled into a blog-a-thon or something.

  •  This is good advice (3+ / 0-)
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    for dailykos in general.  This blog is not nearly the forum it used to be.  There's too much "a republican said something stupid!" (gasp) reporting.  Usually the republican is someone that doesn't matter.  It's a scandal that people like Hunter are front page diarists.  This sort of thing doesn't bode well for where we're at as a party and indicates, I think, a general sense of disarray.  We need to focus on what really matters and it's not things like this.  Obsession with Chris Christie is another example.

  •  Are you African American, Tool? (8+ / 0-)

    I honestly don't ask to pick a fight, but African Americans have another perspective on when the expiration date expires on Cliven Bundy's newsworthiness. African Americans are appropriately freaked out by Bundy, and the right media who stoked insurrection, and the small army of heavily armed white supremacists who were prepared to engage in a gun battle to murder federal agents.

    I agree with you that Net Neutrality is a very important issue, and I believe that your intent is a good one, but to wave you hand and unilaterally say, "all right, you've cared beyond the amount that I have determined is appropriate, now discuss only the issues that I care about", is a privileged position to argue from.

    Let the market place of ideas determine what people here will and won't discuss.

    This revolution is not scheduled!

    by harrylimelives on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:06:24 AM PDT

    •  Not just African Americans feel that way (6+ / 0-)

      I really think we all should get to decide what topics are important to us and want to focus our attention on. An armed band of white supremacists taking a stand against federal law enforcement and refusing to comply with of federal laws, and getting away with it (for now), is kind of a big deal in my book.

      •  And you get to voice this opinion... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...because Net Neutrality isn't totally dead yet.

        There was one press camera and one press reporter there when Bundy made the racist comments.  These statements don't even reach your eyes and ears without an open Internet.

        I get your feelings about this, and Bundy's stances, actions, and racism DO need to be brought to light, and have light shined on them from every angle.

        And the only way that will continue to happen going forward is if we have an Internet like we have today to do so on.

        Everyday Magic

        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
        -- Clarke's Third Law

        by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 10:46:38 AM PDT

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    •  How did African-Americans find out... (0+ / 0-)

      ...about this armed, racist insurrectionist in the first place?

      Net Neutrality and an open Internet.

      My privilege might be preventing me from fully appreciating the African-American point of view here, but this one seems like a clear-cut case of logic.  Nobody even knows/hears about this shit at the speed that we did without an equal, open Internet.

      Don't get me wrong, you're bringing up an extremely valuable point and perspective...but you're getting to do so because you don't have to buy the "Blog and News" package from your internet provider on top of your regular service to make this post.

      The right-wing's latent racism from top to bottom doesn't get exposed nearly as fast as it did without equal, non-privileged access to a multitude of blogs -- remember, this dude had all of one reporter and one camera present when he made the racist speech.  Without the net, our knowledge about him is that he's just a crazy armed insurrectionist, not a crazy armed racist insurrectionist.

      Advocating and acting to protect an open, neutral Internet is what lets us even have the ability and chance to back our African American brothers and sisters when crazy racists like this Bundy bastard rear their head.

      Everyday Magic

      Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
      -- Clarke's Third Law

      by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 10:43:53 AM PDT

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      •  I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you (4+ / 0-)

        that net neutrality is absolutely essential to our ability to expose injustice, discuss it, and organize a response to it.

        But to insist that people stop talking about a particular issue--particularly one involving racism--in order to focus on another issue is not only misguided and somewhat odd, it runs counter to the spirit of net neutrality itself.

        Net neutrality means we get to go where we want and talk about things that are important to us... remember? If people are talking about the Bundy train wreck, then it's because this issue is important to them and not that net neutrality isn't.

        •  What's really important to them about Bundy? (0+ / 0-)

          And by them, I don't mean the people of color that the racism actually affects -- his speech gives the African-American community good reason to talk about racism, especially given how much it effects them.

          Everyone else, on the other hand...

          I see a lot more tabloid chatter about Cliven Bundy and his ridiculous racism, and very, very little about the fact that he and a bunch of manchildren in fatigues pointed guns at federal law enforcement agents, with the women and children out front, and defied the law of the United States that seeks to protect our commons.

          I see very little action.  Since the racism came to the forefront, I see very little recognition of why this cowpie's even in the news in the first place.  Everyone is tut-tutting him for racism.   Conservatives are denouncing his racist speech and views.

          And he's still grazing cattle on public land and being allowed to flout the law because it might piss people off to see federal agents enforcing the damn law.  Congrats, we've just showed the sovereign citizen movement that if they talk about race, they'll just be a joke and have fingers waggled at them for being racist, rather than recognizing that there's now a patch of Idaho where federal law is no longer enforced.  All they have to do is get guns, kids, and their wives out there, and Uncle Sam's gonna roll the hell over.

          It makes every single one of us looks like chumps for paying taxes, doing the right thing, voting for a party that's supposed to make government work, and supporting the policies of that government as best we can.

          But that's not what people are talking about.

          Net Neutrality absolutely gives you and everyone else the right to access whatever content you like and comment on it if commenting is available.  I'd hope that participants of this site have the moral character to use such a right responsibly.

          Everyday Magic

          Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
          -- Clarke's Third Law

          by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 04:27:23 PM PDT

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    •  I am of mixed Latino decent. (0+ / 0-)

      I am not saying that there should be no discussion of Bundy as his situation speaks to issues of racism, white supremecy, property rights, the role of the federal government, exposing the unequal treatment of these "patriots" vs peaceful non-violent protesters and a host of other issues. The title is less bundy, not no bundy, only net neutrality.  At what point does a single conversation though suck up all the oxygen in the room? How many diaries have been promoted & written on the front page on net neutrality vs Bundy? Are we a tabloid? Is this all about out rage? What does the discussion about Bundy do in terms of enhancing progressive ideals? Is it solely about educating people about right wing racism?  What is the end goal here?  

      In my opinion I think the coverage of Bundy had reached the point where we are no longer having a productive conversation but producing click bate lolzs. There have been some really great writing about the historical perspective about Bundy/racism and I've read & recced several diaries about the topic but I believe there is more room on this blog to have more than one intense focus & frankly net neutrality is more important in the long run than Bundy because if there is one thing I know about the right wing is that they are a never ending font of good examples of hate, bigotry, and ignorance. I don't think this conversation will ever really die. We don't however have forever to raise awareness about the proposed FCC rules.

      That's my opinion. I blogged about it. I can't rec any other diaries from my phone since two months ago so if you wanna accuse me of not reccing other net neutrality diaries go ahead. I'm in DC for the keystone rally & running on 2 hours of sleep.

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:33:17 PM PDT

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  •  Tipped, rec'd and republished to (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Brown Thrasher, KenBee, quill, Tool

    Kossack Initiated While House Petitions.

    I've signed the petition, but just a note to others, had a bit of trouble with the required password reset (heartbleed).  The link that supposedly would take me to the password reset site went elsewhere.  Logging out of WH petitions and attempting to log back in using my old password gave me a new link to the reset site that worked fine.  If anyone else has such trouble, just keep trying.  WH Petitions has been buggy from the get go, but it always works if you hammer at it enough.

    Thanks for this diary, Tool.  77,899 left to go, and it was at 78,006 left to go when I signed the petition a few minutes ago.  This one has good traction.

    "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

    by middleagedhousewife on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:15:34 AM PDT

  •  Thanks, but (5+ / 0-)

    I'll decide when the expiration date occurs on a story about America's ongoing struggle with our inherent racism.

    Besides, it's not like net neutrality and the Bundy story need to be mutually exclusive. People can do two things at once... although I would strongly advise against texting while driving.

    •  Yes, I was reading about both yesterday too. (6+ / 0-)

      I read a lot about the Bundy situation, which is now about far more than just Bundy and his cows.

      Last night, I also took the time to fully read Technomancer's diary on Net Neutrality, (Everyday Magic: A Complete Look at Comcast/Netflix/Net Neutrality), an in depth writing. I learned a great deal about the issue and related technical and policy matters. It took about a half-hour and I am glad I read it.

      That I care about this white supremacist uprising in Nevada doesn't preclude reading about and caring about another important issue. I find it interesting that so many people are saying NN is a huge, pressing issue that is going to end the world as we know it, and yet do not actually take the time or have the interest to learn about it, not even 30 minutes apparently, to devote to actually reading about it. But there's plenty of time and energy to complain that there's not enough diaries about it.

      This seems to be more about a call of "let's stop talking about Bundy now" than actually caring about Net Neutrality. Which I find odd to be honest. I wonder, why is a focus on right wing, republican racism and white supremacist actions something we should stop talking about? I don't think so. Sorry. That matters, just as much if not more than the net neutrality ruling.

      •  Fair point. (2+ / 0-)
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        CS in AZ, duhban

        ..and I'm not just agreeing with you because you're pimping my diary.  Honest!  See my above response to you.  :D

        I'll just repeat my stance that the Bundy issue definitely needs to be discussed, and it should be widely discussed, because it touches on many issues:

        * Racism
        * Use of the commons
        * Gun law
        * Property law
        * Scope of government
        * Government inaction
        * Federal land management policy

        Etc, etc, etc.

        ...but they're all only getting discussed because we have an open, still-mostly-net-neutral Internet.

        All people should be treated equally.  All 1's and 0's should as well.  Making sure the second one of those happens allows us to continue our work to achieve the first in a much more effective manner.

        Everyday Magic

        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
        -- Clarke's Third Law

        by The Technomancer on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 10:52:04 AM PDT

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  •  There's an excellent diary on Net Neutrality (8+ / 0-)

    issues, which has been sitting in the Community Spotlight area since yesterday. For some reason, despite all the people who think this topic needs more attention, it hasn't gotten much notice. Have you recommended it?

    Everyday Magic: A Complete Look at Comcast/Netflix/Net Neutrality

    •  there's probably not enough outrage in the diary (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      doroma, AnnetteK

      Der Weg ist das Ziel

      by duhban on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 10:03:16 AM PDT

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    •  I can't rec diaries (1+ / 0-)

      from my phone but I have read it. Accusing me of "not giving a shit" about the other diaries is a weak argument. I've established myself as posting, reccing & promoting a ton if various discussions on this blog. The title is less Bundy, not no Bundy & as I wrote this there were 6 diaries on the rec list talking about Bundy & 1 diary on neg neutrality in the community spot light.

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 08:42:45 PM PDT

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  •  There is another petition too, the Daily Kos... (6+ / 0-)

    ...petition that you can sign right here. As of this writing, it has 68,716 signers.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 09:55:40 AM PDT

  •  blah blah blah (0+ / 0-)

    There is more than enough time to focus on more than one thing.  

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