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More fringe views from the American Taliban, this time it's a Scott Esk, a candidate for Oklahoma's House District 91, who was responding to voter questions on his Facebook page:
Esk posted some old testament scripture that referred to homosexuality being punished.

Someone asked – “So just to be clear, you think we should execute homosexuals (presumably by stoning)?”

Esk responds – “I think we would be totally in the right to do it. That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

Morris spoke with Esk by phone and asked him about the statement.

Esk said, “What I will tell you right now is that was done in the old testament under a law that came directly from God. And in that time, it was totally just, it came directly from God. I have no plans to, you know, reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins.”

But, that's not all. The publicly available posts on his Facebook page are a treasure-trove of nuttiness including his participation the extremist John Birch Society:
Post inviting people to John Birch Society film screening
He also seems to have a problem with the Mexican residents of Oklahoma (which was too long and rambling for a screenshot):
Well, I had a facebook friend denounce me basically for being concerned about a large group of Mexicans at the "Plaza Mayor", formerly Crossroads Mall, in south Oklahoma City. I replied to him, and he quoted some of my early replies to his facebook page, but not my later ones. He unfriended me, and now I can't even see what in the world he said about me, but I can guarantee you this: He wasn't very pleased with my concern. Here is the scenario: A large group of several hundred Mexicans was at what I've always known as Crossroads Mall an hour and a half before any of the stores were open. But there was one store they were lined up to get inside. It had no signs indicating the activity going on there. Rather than making a ruckus there, and seeing no security guards nearby, I called the Oklahoma City police on their 911 line to report what I had found. I was criticized for calling 911 for a non-life-threatening emergency, but I didn't know any other number to call, and as long as dispatchers were on with me, they never offered to give me another number or transfer me to another one. The dispatcher kept asking me what crime they were committing. I said I suspected that many of them were guilty of being here illegally, for which we have legitimate federal laws (that unfortunately are not being enforced by a federal govt which has an agenda counter to enforcing that!). Long and short of it, the police never sent anybody out to even check on the situation, and the immigration number they gave me only gave me the opportunity to leave a message, and they never responded to this day either (???)

Now, in response to this friend who apparently thinks I'm an idiot for being concerned about this, as I already mentioned, our federal government is given very few responsibilities by the Constitution, 17 in all, and 1 of the 17 duties in Article I, Section 8 is to "To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization", which is commonly accepted to include protecting our borders to discourage foreigners from crossing it illegally. In light of our federal government's foaming eagerness to take on powers outrageously outside the 17 given in the Constitution, but its abysmal failure to protect our borders, we have many who are in our country illegally, and they're mostly Mexicans. I am like many of my constituents who want to see illegal aliens of all appearances driven out of Oklahoma by any means that's ethical. I was criticized for assuming that just because somebody appears Mexican, he's automatically illegal. Well, there's nothing automatic about it, but I have no way of knowing just by looking at him if he is or not, and because of illegal aliens, mostly Mexicans, coming here in droves, there's a good likelihood that a Mexican seen here is here illegally. Now, in a crowd of several hundred apparent Mexicans, do you think it's likely that they're all here legally? No complex math involved here. I believe I'm like many other Oklahomans who welcome people of all ethnicities who are willing to jump through the necessary immigration hoops to come over here legally and contribute to Oklahoma's and America's greatness.

I was accused of being a racist by the guy who unfriended me after he heard about SOME of my reasoning for calling law enforcement about the very unusual sight at the mall Saturday. I asked him and another fellow who was critical to define what they thought racism meant. Neither of them was using the dictionary definition, and I cautioned them that I would call them on it if they applied that term to me improperly. Go to dictionary.com. 1 of the definitions of racism there deals with believing that one race is superior to another, and also hatred for a particular race, or races that 1 is not a member of. Well, I'm here to tell you, I have friends that are black, hispanic, Indian, Middle Eastern, Oriental, etc, and I've never entertained racist attitudes toward them or their ethnicities. And to say that one has a racist attitude simply because he desires to see criminals dealt with properly shows a great degree of ignorance.

Finally, to those who wrote me off as a racist or having 'big government ideas', couldn't you at least have had the decency to let me know, if you also have a problem with illegal aliens costing us huge amounts of tax dollars and other big problems, what is your way of dealing with them? And don't be general and just say that we shouldn't say such things as "Your papers, please". I'm running for State Representative to replace the term-limited Mike Reynolds in District 91 in south Oklahoma City, and I'll be interested in doing whatever is ethical and Constitutional to get these criminals out of our state, and it resonates very well with my constituents, and many outside my district in Oklahoma who have talked with me about this major problem. I like the idea from Arizona that a policeman, stopping a motorist, once finding that he is not here legally, can start proceedings for deporting his illegal butt, and I'm for HB 1804 in Oklahoma which was supposed to stop folks from getting state govt dole if they're here illegally. I wish to also see language that makes any meddlesome bureaucrat who seeks to interfere with the implementation of such an Oklahoma law a felon, to be punished with fines and/or jail. I'm profoundly disappointed that HB 1804 is not being enforced, and those of us who believe in the rule of law need to be persistent in standing up for oppressed Oklahoma taxpayers being forced to foot the bill for the problem the federal government absolutely won't take care of!

Originally posted to Scout Finch on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM PDT.

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  •  Christo-Libertarianism (21+ / 0-)
    Someone asked – “So just to be clear, you think we should execute homosexuals (presumably by stoning)?”

    Esk responds – “I think we would be totally in the right to do it. That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

    Libertarian Party founder David Nolan created the pledge in 1971. ... real libertarians wholeheartedly reject the use of force to achieve political or social goals.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:04:14 AM PDT

  •  Someone should ask him about divorce. (26+ / 0-)

    Jesus had very strong words about divorce. None that I know of about homosexuality.

    His rambling answers on FB suggests he's not very "aware".

    He may be useful to tar the gop in OK as crazier than Oklahomans would like their pols to be.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:21:44 AM PDT

  •  Money quote: (15+ / 0-)

    "That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize..."

    Money doesn't talk it swears.

    by Coss on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:30:24 AM PDT

  •  When will the Christians get that (13+ / 0-)

    THEIR Bible is the New Testament?

    Christ stood against much of what the followers of the Old Testament found acceptable.

    Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Kurt Vonnegut

    by ToKnowWhy on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:35:16 AM PDT

    •  also, keep in mind.... (12+ / 0-)

      ....that within mainstream Judaism (where the Old Testament is our Torah), there is great debate about the "man lying with man" passage in Leviticus 18, so often quoted by homophobic right-wingers.

      It's not at all clear that it was meant to denounce homosexuality, it makes no mention of women whatsoever, and many Jewish historians and theologians think that the common translation of the noun in that phrase as "abomination" is incorrect.

      It's also found in a section which prohibits a man "lying with" his menstruating wife.  Yet fundamentalists usually omit that one.  :)

      Anyway, just wanted out point out that even for those of us who aren't Christian, many of the lessons of the "Old Testament" and their relationship to the modern world are highly debated.

      Here's just one of many links discussing the topic of Leviticus 18 from a Jewish perspective: http://www.religioustolerance.org/...

      SUPPORT MARRIAGE EQUALITY!! Lovejoy: ...I believe marriage is described in the Bible! Homer: If you love the Bible so much, why don't you marry it?

      by erzeszut on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:52:30 AM PDT

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      •  Here are the verses you referenced, Leviticus 18: (0+ / 0-)

        19-23: (This is the New English Translation.)

         “‘You must not approach a woman in her menstrual impurity to have sexual intercourse with her.  20 You must not have sexual intercourse with the wife of your fellow citizen to become unclean with her.  21 You must not give any of your children as an offering to Molech, so that you do not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord!  22 You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act.  23 You must not have sexual intercourse with any animal to become defiled with it, and a woman must not stand before an animal to have sexual intercourse with it; it is a perversion.

        Leviticus 18 is basically a list of sexual taboos.

        Leviticus 20: 9-16 has a list of taboos with death penalties (including a man lying with a man as with a woman.) Sexual taboos in verses 17-21 carry lesser penalties.

      •  However he is not coming from a Jewish (2+ / 0-)
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        perspective but a Christianist one (and probably King James Only).  Notice how he talks about how the death penalty would be widely applied for all sorts of things, rather than it being pretty much impossible to get a death sentence.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 02:36:43 PM PDT

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      •  You also forgot... (3+ / 0-)

        about usury and the charging of interest. If these fundamentalists are going to go all OT BS...they better be ready to follow the whole thing or none at all.

        What's even funnier...I believe Jesus or Paul said that whatever you use to judge others...that is what you will be judged by. So...if they want to stone someone for being homosexual...they better get ready to get the same treatment for divorce/adultery/masturbation/porn or anything having to do with a sexual nature.

    •  Jesus wasn't the puitative son of Odin or (4+ / 0-)

      Jupiter, and he was supposed to be the Messiah and a whole lot of other shit that dies that entire gob of myths together. One cannot just read the passages one likes.

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:27:46 PM PDT

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    •  Depends on the flavor of Christians. Historically, (1+ / 0-)
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      the Old Testament is still Holy Writ.

    •  Let's not do the (3+ / 0-)

      / New Testament Good" thing. Appalling shit can be found in every holy book I've ever seen, certainly including the New Testament (Revelation anyone??) -- and I say that as a Christian pastor. The issue for people of faith is not whether there's more or less appalling shit in our particular book, but rather, how are we gonna deal with it? Which parts of scripture will we lift up; which will we lay aside, what's our criteria for distinguishing between the two? It's not about, this book is better than that one.

      •  I was aiming more for the words and actions (3+ / 0-)

        Attributed to Christ himself. I can get behind that

        Revelations are someone's attempts to be a soothsayer.

        Why that drek was included as canon, I will never understand.

        The only thing known of the author of Revelations is his name was John. Not John the Apostle, just a dude named John.

        Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Kurt Vonnegut

        by ToKnowWhy on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 08:11:49 AM PDT

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        •  Revelations was a revenge fantasy against (4+ / 0-)

          the Romans since that is what they expected Jesus to do when he returned. Unfortunately end-times theology has gotten extremely destructive and pretty much demolishes the fairly peaceful message of Christ. For instance a desire for world peace to them means World Domination and the coming of the Anti-Christ. And they just LOVE projecting that onto Obama.

          Nevermind that every generation since Jesus died thought the end was near and they found many "signs" to "prove" it.

          Revelations is like an inkblot test. You can read anything you want into it.

          I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

          by Pixie5 on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 04:33:05 PM PDT

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          •  Revelation (1+ / 0-)
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            Revelations was a revenge fantasy against the Romans since that is what they expected Jesus to do when he returned.
            With A. LOT. of help from the stories of the destruction of Pompeii and Herculaneum by the 79 CE eruption of Mount Vesuvius.

            We had no idea of just how much help these stories were until the letters of Pliny the Younger on these matters were discovered in the 16th century.

            more info on the destruction of Pompeii

            "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

            by thanatokephaloides on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:36:02 PM PDT

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        •  Some of you might be interested in (1+ / 0-)
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          reading "The Jefferson Bible" which are only the words of Jesus taken from the NT. It allows one to really focus on what Jesus taught without the extraneous text getting in the way. It is really a nice little book. Many Unitarian churches give it to the child during the ceremony of "dedication to the religious life" which takes the place of baptism.

          •  I've always liked the Unitarian approach... (0+ / 0-)

            ...If I absolutely HAD to make claims of a religion, I'd go with them.  They even have atheists like me in their congregations and are quite comfortable with it.  Their idea of the "god within all (nature, people etc.)" or more plainly, the creative force that infuses every aspect of our world for those who didn't believe in a deity, is beautifully affirming.

            I attended one service with some friends and it was extremely simple: no grandiose appeals to the deity/ies, no pomp or costumed bufoonery (priests in robes waving gilded sticks or pots of burning resins) and the only point where a 'prayer' was even asked for was a simple meditation in whatever form the members of the congregation preferred.  There was even a pack of wolf-dogs there to share things with us as an example of the beautiful forms Nature can take.  Then, when it was over, we all shared a communal meal the members had made--a potluck communion.  Very cool folk.  :-)

            If we acknowledge our fears, then we must also acknowledge the consequences of our actions when we react to those fears. Hate is based on fear, fear comes from a lack of understanding. When you understand, it is more difficult to hate.

            by TheProgressiveAlien on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:39:28 AM PDT

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        •  "Attributed" a century later (1+ / 0-)
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          The oldest of the four gospels is estimated to have been written at least 90 years after the crucifixion.  There are no actual firsthand, eyewitness accounts of anything Jesus is supposed to have done.  Or said.

          I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

          by mojo11 on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 06:10:07 AM PDT

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          •  eyewitness accounts (0+ / 0-)
            "Attributed" a century later

            The oldest of the four gospels is estimated to have been written at least 90 years after the crucifixion.  There are no actual firsthand, eyewitness accounts of anything Jesus is supposed to have done.  Or said.

            Or that he was an historical biological human being at all.

            We only have one such direct evidence for Pontius Pilate, an inscription. And, if I recall correctly, that one was only discovered in the 1990s.

            "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

            by thanatokephaloides on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:39:13 PM PDT

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            •  Even if you accept (1+ / 0-)
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              that Jesus was, in fact, walking among us and doing the stuff he did, all of the evidence is hearsay and should, as such, be inadmissible under rules of evidence.  And if the evidence is inadmissible, how can you use it to make law?

              I feel like I should end that with something in Latin... but I don't know Latin.

              I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

              by mojo11 on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:56:51 PM PDT

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              •  prima facie (0+ / 0-)
                Even if you accept that Jesus was, in fact, walking among us and doing the stuff he did, all of the evidence is hearsay and should, as such, be inadmissible under rules of evidence.  And if the evidence is inadmissible, how can you use it to make law?

                I feel like I should end that with something in Latin... but I don't know Latin.

                How 'bout "hac non est causa probata prima facie" ??

                (this is not a proven prima-facie case)

                :-)

                "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

                by thanatokephaloides on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 02:14:16 PM PDT

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        •  apocalypse (0+ / 0-)
          I was aiming more for the words and actions Attributed to Christ himself. I can get behind that

          Revelations are someone's attempts to be a soothsayer.

          Why that drek was included as canon, I will never understand.

          In the age when the Christian Canon was being decided -- the reigns of the Roman Emperors Constantine I to Theodosius (306 to 395 CE) -- the kind of literature called "Apocalypses" were very popular among Christians. The Christian Bishops who decided which books were to be canonical knew they needed to include at least one Apocalypse to keep these people happy.

          It is my understanding that they canonized "Patmos John's Bad Acid Trip" because all the other available Apocalypses were much worse! As in "Vogon Poetry" worse!

          Shudder!!

          "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

          by thanatokephaloides on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:29:20 PM PDT

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          •  Vogon Poetry (2+ / 0-)

            Only the 3rd worst in the universe.

            The official worst poetry in the universe...
            The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
            They lay. They rotted. They turned
            Around occasionally.
            Bits of flesh dropped off them from
            Time to time.
            And sank into the pool's mire.
            They also smelt a great deal.
            Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Greenbridge, Essex

            Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Kurt Vonnegut

            by ToKnowWhy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:27:43 PM PDT

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  •  This is almost comical... (4+ / 0-)
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    Except that it is NOT.  OMG, I cannot believe his ramblings, they only make for a stronger case for his racism, intolerance, & hatred (yes, I believe he would fit the dictionary.com definitions of the above)...

  •  Argh! (3+ / 0-)
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    How many ways can we say the bigot is strong in him?  

  •  So he's a Cafeteria Libertarian (9+ / 0-)

    as well as a Cafeteria Christian.

    That's impressive.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:10:21 PM PDT

  •  Maybe OK needs those bans on Sharia law after all. (18+ / 0-)

    "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

    by yg17 on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:10:45 PM PDT

  •  By all appearances . . . (5+ / 0-)
    [W]e have many who are in our country illegally, and they're mostly Mexicans. I am like many of my constituents who want to see illegal aliens of all appearances driven out of Oklahoma by any means that's ethical.
    I think that that sentence would have been more correct if the last word were "ethnical."

    I remember a time when you wouldn't have seen a politician publically admitting that the reason they want to drive people from their borders is because they look different, so, I guess, 1 point for honesty, -5000 points for political savvy and -10,000 points for enlightenment.

  •  O O O O Oklahoma, where the wind goes (23+ / 0-)

    whistlin' through the brain.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:22:47 PM PDT

  •  It's unfair to Oklahoma bash over this. (4+ / 0-)

    There are plenty of people there who are embarrassed to see that stuff going on in their state. We had a preacher here in Rhode Island who was advocated that, before it was fashionable to be a fringe wacko extremist preacher, and I wouldn't want it said that he reflected on my state.

    Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

    by RhodeIslandAspie on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:28:50 PM PDT

  •  What's wrong with stoning homosexuals? (7+ / 0-)

    I've done it LOTS of times--you just pass them the joint!

    "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

    by leftykook on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:32:59 PM PDT

  •  Asshole (2+ / 0-)
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    That's it, just asshole.

  •  Unbelievable (1+ / 0-)
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    This is just criminal. But, I guess we live in a democracy and we have free speech. But, this makes me really angry.

    KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

    by fcvaguy on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:52:00 PM PDT

    •  He can say evil crud like that as free speech... (0+ / 0-)

      ...but we're also free to tell him to go to his fictional hell for being a bigoted asshat.  Or vote the fucker out if he ever gets into office.  Hope the vote completely goes against this pimple of a human being and he never gets in to begin with.

      Mind if I be angry with you?  This creepy, low-browed xenophobe really grinds my gears.

      If we acknowledge our fears, then we must also acknowledge the consequences of our actions when we react to those fears. Hate is based on fear, fear comes from a lack of understanding. When you understand, it is more difficult to hate.

      by TheProgressiveAlien on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:47:08 AM PDT

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  •  Tell me we have somebody running against (3+ / 0-)
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    this cretin. 50 state strategy, baby. Dicks saying stuff like this is what it was all about.

    Why do I have the feeling George W. Bush joined the Stonecutters, ate a mess of ribs, and used the Constitution as a napkin?

    by Matt Z on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 01:52:40 PM PDT

  •  Maybe every gay person should send him (4+ / 0-)

    a stone.

  •  It's always fun watching... (3+ / 0-)

    ... an intellectual lightweight wrestle himself to the ground.

    Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

    by The Termite on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 03:03:30 PM PDT

  •  OMG...not another idiotic... (0+ / 0-)

    story about how stupid too many of these Okies are by either being this stupid or supporting the idiots they elect to public office. Left this part of the Bible Noose over 20 years ago and they were stupid then...but I never thought they could get this stupid in 100 of my lifetimes. Was I ever wrong.

    As for whatever piece of the Bible this idiot uses...if he's claiming to use the Old Testament to be this stupid...I hope he's worshiping at a Jewish temple and allowing a Jewish priest to do his sacrifice. On the other hand...if he's not worshiping at a temple...but a church...he needs to actually read an actual Bible...rather than the Duck Dynasty version he seems to love. Too bad he's too stupid (along with the rest of the morons who think he's a good choice for public office) to understand a book he's never opened or a religious leader he would put to death with great joy.

  •  I guess if stoning homosexuals is ok, ... (0+ / 0-)

    then feeding Christians to the lions should rear its ugly head too.
    How these fundamentalists think they will get a free pass while inflicting their hate on others is baffling to me.


    How do you tell your pet slug that you had escargot for dinner?

    by glb3 on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:03:56 PM PDT

    •  Life of Brian does this perfectly . . (2+ / 0-)
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    •  lions (1+ / 0-)
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      I guess if stoning homosexuals is ok, ... then feeding Christians to the lions should rear its ugly head too.
      My big red tom kitty just hissed at you.

      He's related to lions.

      He thinks he is a lion.

      And he DOES. NOT. APPROVE. of feeding Christians to lions.

      Lions deserve better food than that.

      ;-)

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:47:52 PM PDT

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  •  Old Testament Law (4+ / 0-)
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    Since he is relying on Old Testament Law, I wonder when he will kill his wife for touching him while she is in her menstrual cycle?

    I wonder if he walks to church.  In the Old Testament, riding any conveyance is against God's law.

    If he and his family should walk to church (highly unlikely), does he lead the line with his sons behind him by age, then his wife behind the sons and daughters behind the wife?

    Does his wife submit to him just because she is a woman and is supposed to do that?  If not, he can stone her for disrespecting him.

    These Old Testament laws keep going and going in the book of Leviticus.

    But, I don't know how God gave these Religious Reichists the authority to pick and choose these laws.  Can anyone enlighten me as to how the laws of God can be used only when convenient?  Snakes alive!

  •  Yanno, (5+ / 0-)

    ..every police department that I know of has a regular phone number. That's what you call for non-emergencies. Somebody's car blocks your drive? Call the regular number. Somebody stumbles into the store where you work bleeding? Call 911. You see a crowd that looks suspicious, but don't see any crime or any danger? Gee, sounds to me like not in any way an emergency.

    Cogito, ergo Democrata.

    by Ahianne on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:19:10 PM PDT

  •  Turnabout (2+ / 0-)
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    Turnabout being fair play, since I think it's perfectly okay to stone homophobic Christians to death can I do that?

  •  Why do these fucks even read the "old testament" (1+ / 0-)
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    After all it's not their book. They don't keep kosher and that commandment is as clear as day. How about not working on Passover, Sukkot, Rosh Hashanah, etc., letting the land lie fallow every seven years, forgiving debts, celebrating jubilee, observing shabbos. It just goes on and on all the things these people ignore. But they would argue that's the "old law" that Jesus freed them from. Except stoning homosexuals.
    Jews do not practice Torah Judaism and haven't for a millennium. Jews practice Rabbinic Judaism and things like stoning are forbidden. Even the death sentence is questionable.

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:03:06 PM PDT

    •  Wish I could recc this... (0+ / 0-)

      So I'll just say Shalom for your words instead.  :-)

      If we acknowledge our fears, then we must also acknowledge the consequences of our actions when we react to those fears. Hate is based on fear, fear comes from a lack of understanding. When you understand, it is more difficult to hate.

      by TheProgressiveAlien on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:56:05 AM PDT

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  •  Wait. wait... (2+ / 0-)
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    LubbockGayMale, okpkpkp

    ...I thought they were against Sharia law? What happened?

    Twitter: @michaelhag

    by MichaelPH on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:48:49 PM PDT

  •  Let God sort it out... (2+ / 0-)
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    . I was criticized for assuming that just because somebody appears Mexican, he's automatically illegal. Well, there's nothing automatic about it, but I have no way of knowing just by looking at him if he is or not, and because of illegal aliens, mostly Mexicans, coming here in droves, there's a good likelihood that a Mexican seen here is here illegally.
    Likewise, I have no way of knowing if any given man I see on the street (or the one next to him, or the one next to him...) is a rapist.  I can't tell just by looking.  But, I DO know that the majority of the women I know - and the majority of the women they know - have been sexually assaulted at one point or another in their lives.  And, assuming that one man is not responsible for all of these assaults, at least some of the men I see on the streets must be rapists.  So, maybe we should just lock them all up and let God sort it out!
    •  Very good!!! (1+ / 0-)
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      I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

      by Pixie5 on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 04:42:21 PM PDT

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    •  Good idea! What really gets me (2+ / 0-)
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      is the hypocrisy of these so-called Christians as they cherry pick the gospels to find support for their bigotry. They flip between the OT and the NT with abandon while they ignore the context of the verses they quote.

    •  Huge grin on my face for that one! (0+ / 0-)

      Perfect snark!  I've had a hard time figuring out the selective 'logic' of people like that...

      Maybe it's a bad idea, in any case.  I've been told by my therapists to not think about depressing things when I'm already having a depressive episode and that one just hurts my head-meats.  Bigoted, ignorant jerk, that one.  :-p

      If we acknowledge our fears, then we must also acknowledge the consequences of our actions when we react to those fears. Hate is based on fear, fear comes from a lack of understanding. When you understand, it is more difficult to hate.

      by TheProgressiveAlien on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:58:57 AM PDT

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  •  A "Frivolous Divorce"... (2+ / 0-)
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    Is that a legal term in OK?  It feels like you should get a fruity cocktail and a feather boa when you file...

  •  Are you sure that's a photograph of Scott Esk? ... (3+ / 0-)

    Are you sure that's a photograph of Scott Esk? It kind of registered on my gaydar.

  •  Yet... (3+ / 0-)

    another mouth-breathing hater makes his stain on the an already overly stained society.  A society that used to be one of the greatest societies of the world.  Now not so much.... because of a-holes like this one.

  •  Scott Esk (3+ / 0-)

    I'm sure Jesus would agree with this pseudo-Christian piece of s..t. Yea, Jesus would undoubtedly push his way to the head of the line to throw the first stones.

    Every time I think some member of the Republican party has sunk to the lowest depths of moral and ethical depravity, another member - such as Scott Esk - comes along to prove me wrong.

  •  Sexual Orientation is not Chosen (1+ / 0-)
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         Science:  Gender and Sexual Orientation
    During fetal development, if androgens (male sex hormones) are not present, are insufficient in quantity, or are unusable, the brain, body, or both will feminize due to the lack of sufficient male hormones or intolerance to male hormones.  If androgens are present, sufficient in quantity, and usable, the brain, body or both will masculinize due to the presence of sufficient tolerated male hormones.  In humans, genital-gender/sex arises in the 2nd to 3rd months and brain-gender/sex in the 4th to 5th months of fetal development.  The time disparity between the development of neurological and genital sexuality increases the probability of cross-gendering leading to homosexuality and other brain based anomalous gender/sex behaviors.  
    Genetics and teratology.

    Based on an extensive review of the literature on the etiology of homosexuality, biological events predominantly explain the origins of sexual orientation.   While some question the ethics of studying genetic issues related to homosexuality,   in-utero genetic or neuroendocrinological events play a critical role in cross-gendering.   Genetic and in-utero chemically induced sex-altered groups illustrate the paradigm:   Turner's Syndrome, Androgen Insensitives, Testicular Feminizing Syndrome, Klinefelter's Syndrome (XnY), progestin-administered females, Adrenogenital Syndrome, "super-males" (XYn), etc.      At least 450 Species other than humans, in the wild and captivity, exhibit "homosexual" behavior—some with life bonding.   Particularly primates appear to have differing degrees of "homosexual" behavior.   The first evidence of the sex-behavior center came from research on mammals.   Most research involved surgical interventions and the administration or denial of sex hormones during critical brain differentiation periods.   In human female fetuses at risk for masculinizing effects from male hormones, German physicians, using in-utero anti-androgens, have forced female heterosexual genitalia and brain-gender/sex.   Although discussed by Dorner, the use of androgens to force  male brain-gender is complex and can potentially result in brain damage, attention deficit disorder, learning disabilities, hyper-activity, and hyper-aggression.
    Physiology, anatomy, and psychophysiology.

    Numerous studies show male homosexuals in many ways approximate females and significantly differ from male heterosexuals.  Comparing male homosexuals to female heterosexuals, similarities include  muscle structure, sleep patterns, pelvic openings, carry angle of arm, perception, finger dexterity, noticeable acoustic style, visuo-spatial ability, verbal performance, language lateralization, eating disorders, throw-to-target ability, mental rotation task, E.E.G. readings, response to male pheromones, etc.   Compared to heterosexual males, some studies suggest homosexual males appear more prone to left-handedness, stuttering, and reading difficulties, differing brain anatomy related to auditory input, atypical gender and sex behavior, differing lipid levels, more empathy and altruism, larger penile dimension, etc.   Among other research showing brain differences between homosexual and heterosexual males,  anatomical research at Salk Institute comparing male heterosexual and homosexual brains suggests a differing development of the sex-behavior center in male homosexuals.   A more recent UCLA study of the male homosexual brain shows broader differences discriminating male homosexuals from both male and female heterosexuals.   Research on transsexuals has also revealed significant differences in brain anatomy and gonadotropin secretions.
    Hormonal anomalies.

    Direct hormonal evidence shows that male homosexuals and heterosexuals significantly differ from one another.   In blind analysis, Margolese and Janiger accurately predicted sexual orientation.  Some depressives, unknown to be homosexual, may have a similar difference in sex hormone ratio.   Dorner and Gooren injected estrogen into male homosexuals, male heterosexuals, and female heterosexuals with removed ovaries.  They found the luteinizing hormone response of male homosexuals almost identical with these females and significantly different from male heterosexuals.   Similar results are found in male-to-female transsexuals.   Studies, using stringent classification of research subjects, show adult male heterosexuals have significantly higher levels of male hormones than do male homosexuals.   In animals with litters along a placental line, female mammals between male mammals cause post-natal sex-stereotypic male behaviors (e.g., sexual mounting and aggression) in these females.   Dorner hypothesizes that various in humans prenatal and postnatal hormonal administrations may be used to establish specific brain sex/gender outcomes.

    Upsetting a female mammal during gestation can produce cross-gendered offspring.   Stress apparently lowers androgens in humans and crowding causes stress resulting in anomalous social behavior and cross-gendered behavior in mammals.   A similar phenomenon occurs in post hoc research on some homosexual research subjects.   Twice the numbers of male homosexuals were born in war-ravaged Germany during World War II than the six years before or after the war.  

    Pheromones and Sexual Orientation
    The vomeronasal system, adjacent to the olfactory system, mediates sexual interest for both males and females.  Findings indicate pheromones play an important role in the identification of sexual objects at a subconscious level.  For male homosexuals research has shown a clearly female neurological and social response to pheromones produced by males.   In addition, preference for human body odors are influenced by gender and sexual orientation.
    Genetics and Neuroendocrinology.

    Augmenting decades old and contemporary research showing more homosexuals are born as the age of the mother increases,  recent research implicates H-Y antigens (resulting from previous male births) increase the probability of adult homosexuality and lack of heterosexual cohabitation by as much as 33 percent.   The sibling sex ration, without implicating H-Y antigen, suggests that approximately 10% of the variance in male homosexual behavior can be accounted for sibling sex-ratio.   Androgen-insensitives (XY females) and partial-androgen insensitives, illustrate the power of genetics in creating a divergence of genetic gender from both behavioral and anatomic gender.   XX females born with male genitalia and behavioral masculinization present a clear case for biologically induced cross gendering.   Many chromosomal anomalies (e.g., X deletion ring, ring X or isochrome X, missing X, XXXX, XYY, XX/XY, X0/XY, XXY/XX, XXY/XY, X0/XX, etc.) are contributing factors to sexual orientation, level of intellect, performance of tasks, etc.   Identical twins are usually concordant in sexual orientation.  Identical twins discordant for sexual orientation can be explained by biological events and reluctance of some to reveal their homosexuality.  There is one study, dealing with 61 pairs of twins and three sets of triplets. In one case all the triplets were homosexual.   Genetic linkage analysis, using extended families, of the X chromosome suggests some familial male homosexuality is likely genetic and passed down the maternal line.   A recent study using only homosexual siblings, found through advertisements in Gay newspapers and magazines, using a limited number of markers without the comparisons in extended families called into question the genetic theory of homosexuality.   Studies of the genetic contribution to homosexuality are often marred by poor subject selection, precise definitions of behavior, over generalization, inadequate methodology, etc.   Based on many studies of male homosexual twins, using very conservative statistical formulae, heritable factors may account for 44 percent of cases.  Research on twins, families, and the adopted implicates genetic or neurohormonal origins for sexual orientation.
    The argument against genetic factors because homosexuals seldom marry is fallacious.   Male homosexuals, subjected to social pressure to marry, often have offspring.   Even if homosexuals did not reproduce, the gene pool would still contain recessive traits, sport genes, and neuro-hormonal influences in-utero leading to cross-gendering.
    Surgery and brain compromise.

    Evidence from neurosurgery challenges the archetypic myth that persons, based on genital sex determination at birth, will exhibit "gender appropriate" or "heterosexual" behavior in adolescence and adulthood.  The first such evidence comes from data on pre-frontal lobotomy patients , some being treated for agitated depression.  Following surgery, some patients became "spontaneously" homosexual.  In line with Money's comments about sex hormone ratios in some depressives,  many of these patients had significant depressive illness.  Apparently, when the frontal area of the brain could no longer suppress underlying homosexual drives, these pseudoheterosexuals reverted to their normal homosexual preoccupation.   In follow-up, patients reported being able to suppress homosexual urges over a long period.  Clinical data shows that as the brain deteriorates with aging, some pseudoheterosexuals are unable to mask their underlying homosexuality.
    In some countries, homosexuals have been "treated" surgically to force heterosexual behavior.  Psychosurgery of the sex behavior center reduces or eliminates homosexual responding in some homosexual males.  Many patients, without psychotherapeutic intervention, become heterosexually active after surgery.  Some become asexual and have no sexual interest.  Psychosurgery in lesbians results in fewer behavioral changes.   After these psychosurgeries, failure to follow-up patients and adverse side-effects are reported, including death from infection..  A German government commission has called for the elimination of these surgeries.   Psychosurgeries to change sexual orientation are not available in the United States.  

    Some males are accidentally mutilated during circumcision.  Because of the ease of a male to female change, they are often sexually reassigned as females.  Some of these "females" are masculine in behavior and many are "lesbian" during adulthood.
    Research shows changes in sexual orientation can result from viral attack of the human sex-behavior center, head injuries, and tumors.   Psychosocial stressors leading to pseudo-sexuality and neurological insult or injury are apparently the only means of significantly altering the expression of sexual orientation.  Excepting neurological changes, no credible sex researcher in the last fifty years has suggested sexual orientation changes after childhood.  Most agree biological factors often mediate sexual orientation.55
    Psychophysiology.

    Autonomic pupillary and penile reflexes, minimally controlled by conscious processes, reliably differentiate between male heterosexuals and homosexuals.56  Male homosexual behavior can be reduced or eliminated using painful electric shock or apomorphine vomiting with or without desensitizing male homosexual to females.57  Ego-dystonic homosexuals "self-referred" or sent by "government social service agencies" often have psychopathology and marked homophobia.58  "Homophobia" is best characterized as a revulsion related to homosexual practices or openly homosexual persons.  Many "cured" male homosexuals continue to have powerful homosexual urges without erectile function with sexual partners.  Despite protracted aversive intervention, male homosexuals continue to have autonomic pupil responses to male stimuli.59  Aversion therapy and other invasive treatments are punitive60 and pose serious ethical concerns.61  For a authoritative paper on "Sexual Orientation:  Science and Society" email dr.murphy@att.net or call toll free at (866) 481-0295.  Get informed and not bombarded.

    •  This post is fascinating. Thank-you for (3+ / 0-)

      the information and the source. It is as I always thought, homosexuals are born, not made. Given this, since we all are created by God, then homosexuals are God's creations just as much as heterosexuals are. Thus, they are just as deserving of our love and acceptance as are any of Gods creations.

    •  Holy cow... (0+ / 0-)

      That was amazing...  Oddly, I've known about a good portion of that material (such as the over 450 species that exhibit homosexual behaviours and the pair-bonding), but the hormonal and other biological stressors hypothesis for homosexuality was one that I didn't know.  Very cool post, sir/madame.

      I noticed, however, that almost all of the above dealt exclusively with males.  Are there any studies on female homosexuals?  There must be, but it's something I've noticed in the research style of a lot of studies: they tend to pick only one very small demographic: Caucasian males, mostly middle class.  I personally find this limitation annoying as heck.  :-/

      Thanks so much for posting this!

      If we acknowledge our fears, then we must also acknowledge the consequences of our actions when we react to those fears. Hate is based on fear, fear comes from a lack of understanding. When you understand, it is more difficult to hate.

      by TheProgressiveAlien on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 09:12:51 AM PDT

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  •  Guess he never figured out... (1+ / 0-)
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    Buzzardbill

    this is why his Jeebus keeps sending tornadoes and other horrendous weather through this back-lot of a state...

  •  I DO wish (2+ / 0-)
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    Buzzardbill , thanatokephaloides

    this gentleman would take the time to learn what the word "naturalization" means.  It has nothing to do with who crosses our borders or how, and a whole lot with how they become citizens.

  •  Funny how... (5+ / 0-)

    creeps like this guy never have a thought about gay people defending themselves. If this turd said this in front of me, he'd be knocked out cold on the floor. Best he remain in his hayseed bubble, away from gay people, otherwise, his ignorance would be in big trouble.

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    by JohnnieZ on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 11:56:05 AM PDT

  •  this guy (2+ / 0-)
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    Buzzardbill , thanatokephaloides

    I wonder if he support stoning of latino s he suspects to be here illegally. It kills me when these guys quote the constitution but are perfectly willing to violate same by demanding the papers of anyone who they suspect may be illegal.

  •  Jeez! (2+ / 0-)
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    When these idiots who cite OT laws for their bias/hate, I want to ask if their clothing is 100% natural fiber, without plastic buttons or stretch waistbands.  And did they bring their mother/in-law into their home when their hubbies passed on, and remove them from public view?  And why does he shave his face, in direct violation of OT law?  Shame sir, and shame on the OK voters if they elect you to any office.

  •  Umm... (3+ / 0-)

    Anybody else notice that Mr Esk looks mighty gay himself? Methinks the laddie doth protest too much!

  •  Thanks for the afternoon laugh (1+ / 0-)
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    thanatokephaloides

    "this friend who apparently thinks I'm an idiot for being concerned about"
    "apparent Mexicans"

    I like imagining him voicing suspicion about "a group apparent Mexicans" using Sergeant Joe Friday's monotone.

  •  WOW, because he has "friends" of different races (1+ / 0-)
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    that means he can't be a racist.  How many times have I heard that before and how many times did it turn out to be a lie?  Does he have gay friends who he's willing to stone?  What a charmer.

    Let's see he has some black friends, some Hispanic friends (but note no Latino friends because they're all criminal illegal immigrants, I guess).  He has some Oriental friends, too.  I wonder if they prefer to be called "Asians"?  And Indian friends - are they Indian or Native American?  Oh, he's such a non-racist, he probably has a few of both groups.  And he also has some et ceteras as friends.  I wonder if Yul Brynner introduced them to Esk?  https://www.youtube.com/... Yul Brynner

    A word to the wise is sufficient. Republicans need at least a paragraph.

    by d3clark on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 02:54:40 PM PDT

  •  "...worthy of death?" (1+ / 0-)
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    What?!?  Seriously?  Not that I'm wishing it, but if someone had to be "worthy of death" wouldn't have to be this guy??

  •  Old Testament love, New Testament hate (1+ / 0-)
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    I wish these Christian phonies who are so in love with the Old Testament that they want to bring back "the wonderful days of stoning a sinner" would honestly stop calling themselves Christians, because that's NOT Christians are called to do. Jesus said to those who wanted to stone the woman accused of adultery, "If anyone of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her". So unless you're COMPLETELY WITHOUT SIN, YOU CANNOT be the "first one to cast a stone" at any sinner.

  •  Esk's comment (1+ / 0-)
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    Hmmmm! He is kinda pretty.....wonder if he is a closet queen? They tend to be THE most homophobic.

  •  I wouldn't know where to begin with this mental... (1+ / 0-)
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    thanatokephaloides

    I wouldn't know where to begin with this mental defective but I can start by saying that his "Oriental" friend would most likely want him to stop using that term to label him. And why would anyone think that a white JBS member who assumes the citizenship of others, who can spot them at a distance, who is turned away by the law on that matter, who assumes his assumption of the meaning of an act in the Constitution is correct, or that the Old Testament is the way of justice could be a racist and homophobe? To think otherwise would be foolish.

  •  So if I see a group of white males congregating (1+ / 0-)
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    at let's say a hockey game I can call the police because they all look like members of the NAZI party?  Ok.  

  •  Nice argument for giving great consideration (1+ / 0-)
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    to rejecting all Christians for Public Office.  Bad religion is as Bad religion does.

    "I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians."
    -Thomas Jefferson

  •  Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian (1+ / 0-)
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    Explains Traditional Marriage

    http://www.youtube.com/...

  •  Straight from the BuyBull (1+ / 0-)
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    “Leviticus 20:13 – “if a man lays with another man, as with a woman, he should be stoned.”

    So legal access to marijuana and gay sex means that Coloradoan's will be following the bible:”

  •  Stoning gays. (2+ / 0-)
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    I think all politicians should have to serve 4 years active duty on the front line to weed out these cowardly politicians in the pockets of Nazi churches and big oil.

  •  Idiotic candidate (2+ / 0-)
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    I guess we should raid his house and if he has any clothes that are made of differing cloths he should be stoned.  It never ceases to amaze me how those rectal orifices can get any votes.

  •  What this guy doesn't understand is (2+ / 0-)
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    we have Oklahomo surrounded. Kansas, too.
    Blithering idiot...(or is it blathering...??)

  •  Esk (1+ / 0-)
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    When Esk quotes the Old Testament he is quoting Judaic law, not Christian. If he is Jewish then fine but if he thinks that he is quoting from Christian law, he is greatly mistaken.

  •  What are the odds.... (2+ / 0-)
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    debocracy, thanatokephaloides

    That a lot of Mexican-looking people include illegals?  Well, what are the odds that a lot of camouflage-attired men with assault rifles include terrorists? Considering that a bunch of guys toting assault rifles have a high likelihood of being Al Qaeda, or ISIS, or Boko Haram, or Al Shabab, or Hamas, I'm sure Mr. Scott Esk would be the very first to call for law enforcement to prepare its drones when a group of these probable terrorists show up and start milling around in America's restaurants and department stores.  

    What are the odds that he would grab his cell and call 911?  Yeah, I didn't think so either.

    Oh, and speaking of odds:  we can now calculate what percentage of Cliven Bundy's gun-toting supporters were in fact terrorists:  two of them, for sure, out of maybe 100?  Which can be compared to the percentage of Hispanics that are illegal.  Probably less than 2%, although this would doubtless be disbelieved by Mr. "Esk" (what kind of a name is "Esk" anyway? and "Scott"?  If you were a foreigner trying to pass as an American, you'd pick the name "Scott", which is the name of an astonishing number of Republican politicians).

  •  Who to stone? (1+ / 0-)
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    So, when do we start stoning people who have had children out of wedlock? Sex outside of marriage? Clearly more grievous sins, according to the bible. Not even the dumbest bible- thumper would condone that, seeing as how it would surely mean they'd have to stone themselves, their children, parents, and just about everybody else they know.  What about liars, thieves and all manner of evil-doers? Hell, let's just get a pile of rocks and start throwing them at each other! It's open season and no one is safe. But wait, I've got a better idea! "Let The One Without Sin Cast The First Stone."

  •  Where does it fit ... (3+ / 0-)

    You (we) need to start asking ourselves some very serious questions ... LIKE - just where is it written that we look to our politicians for our moral guidance - family values - life's principals - etc.  Fact is - it isn't. Just how is it that these (Republicans) are so wise .. they know everything there is about global warming - jobs - economics - what you should believe in - what you should and shouldn't do - who can vote - what women can or can't do with their own bodies ... etc.

    OH WELL, let's face it - the so called Republicans as so screwed up that they are looking for anything they can find to half their death spiral

    Politicians need to focus on legislation ... we will find our own moral - personal - and character building elsewhere.

    Today's so called Republicans are more a COUP than an political party.  That's not an opinion - it's fact.

  •  Sharia Law?? (1+ / 0-)
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    Wow!  This blows my mind.  Back when Oklahoma passed an Anti-Sharia Law I thought it was for the benefit of the pseudo-conservative right wing radicals.  Is it possible that they wanted to protect moderates and liberals from the right wing wackos??

  •  So, he called the cops on the day laborers (1+ / 0-)
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    Scenario:  Big mall, lots of space to hang out, easy to get to.  Hispanic neighborhood.  Early morning.

    This is the DAY LABORER POOL.  These are the guys that get up before the crack of dawn to go down and see if they can get some work.  Construction foremen and groundskeeping crews will send trucks or vans to these places, and basically hire guys 5-20 at a time for a job.  They're usually paid in cash at the end of the job (or the day if it's a multi-day job).  Yes, many MAY be illegal.  Most are just dirt-poor and trying to make ends meet.

    This sanctimonious bonehead needs to have his toys taken away, handed a lunchbox with some cheap sandwiches and a coffee thermos, and made to stand on a corner and BEG for an effing job. Then maybe he'd see a little further beyond the end of his upturned nose.

    The Rich and Spoiled 1%'ers are making the Biker Gang 1%'ers look a lot better than they used to.

    by dcnblues on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:19:52 AM PDT

  •  American Taliban, American Jihadist Scott ESk (2+ / 0-)
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    How can the American people be so stupid? Who witnessed God giving us instructions to stone homosexuals to death, or anyone else for that matter? Who saw God make the universe in 6 days? Who was here to record it? Fox News?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of country are we becoming? This is not only an outrage in our culture and  society, this suit-human bottom feeder should be sent to Syria or Iraq, where he can carry a gun and shoot or stone whomever he likes until he gets what he deserves.

  •  suit-human bottom feeder (0+ / 0-)
    this suit-human bottom feeder should be sent to Syria or Iraq, where he can carry a gun and shoot or stone whomever he likes until he gets what he deserves.
    He should be sent there with NO gun. And while wearing that selfsame suit.

    :-(

    "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

    by thanatokephaloides on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:57:17 PM PDT

  •  Stoning? (0+ / 0-)

    Have you dishonored your family? Shut up.You are an ass.  I don't generally say Hate, but you are a hater.  Go to hell and fast.

  •  The American Taliban is getting comfortable. (0+ / 0-)

    I am fearful of our future if these clueless, xenophobic tea party politicians are able to replicate the beginning's of the Nazi party of the 1930's.  There are so many parallels to our current situation versus 30's Germany. If we do not get out and quash these sick sociopaths soon, we are ONE charismatic leader away from repeating what is now considered to be one of the most heinous moments of modern man. Fox news, Newsmax, Limbaugh, the Koch Bros., etc. should all be arrested for sedition (among many other things) for creating a large enough Petri dish for these people to grow from and gain confidence. How utterly repugnant!

  •  Seriously (0+ / 0-)

    American grown whack-a-doodles. Perhaps he has rocks in his head.

  •  OK....and exactly HOW (0+ / 0-)

    did a butthole like this even get on the ballot in the first place?

    Petition signatures? From whom? I guess the great state of YOKELHOMO has lots of people who will sign ANYTHING!

  •  "The age-old method of eliminating your enemies... (0+ / 0-)

    "...by lining them up and killing them.

    Thank you, Adolph Hitler.

    "Sincerely,

    "Scott Esk, fuhrer in training"

  •  Does he also follow the Bible's instructions for (1+ / 0-)
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    starduster

    …stoning or burning to death those who commit adultery, incest, bestiality, worshipping idols, blasphemy, breaking the Sabbath, practicing magic, being a spiritualist or medium, trying to convert people to another religion, apostasy, cursing your parents, and perjury? Or he just for stoning gays?

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