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Lena H. Sun Bacteria found in squid raises concern about spread of antibiotic resistance, study finds, and highlights that risk of exposure to antibiotic resistant microorganisms is not just a hospital issue. The bacteria found, Pseudomonas fluorescens, are resistant to carbapenems, one of our "last-line-of-defense" antibiotics.  

The Center for Disease Control reports that antibiotic resistant infections kill 23,000 Americans per year, and that the U.S. faces “potentially catastrophic conse­quences," if we do not act quickly.

Researchers in Canada have discovered an antibiotic-resistant bacteria for the first time in a food product — raw squid — widening the potential exposure for consumers, according to a report published Wednesday by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. ...

The discovery of such a microbe in food means “the risk of exposure in the public goes beyond people with travel histories and beyond people who have been previously hospitalized,” said Joseph Rubin, assistant professor of veterinary microbiology at the University of Saskatchewan.  ... “This finding means a much broader segment of the population is potentially at risk for exposure. It’s something you may be bringing into your home rather than something you would acquire while traveling or following hospitalization,” he said.

Overuse of antibiotics, especially on factory farms has led to the emergence of broad ranges of microbes that are immune to nearly all of our existing antibiotics, meaning that soon even simple surgeries we've taken for granted will become extremely high risk events that may be too risky.

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This particular kind of bacteria is extra dangerous because it has the ability to exchange genes with other bacteria making them resistant as well.

Sun tells us that the microbes were found in a package of frozen squid purchased in a Chinese grocery in Saskatoon, Canada, which was supplied by a South Korean vender.  

“Whenever we see last-resort antibiotics, such as carbapenems, stop working for another type of bacteria — we are highly concerned,” Jean Patel, deputy director of the CDC’s Office of Anti­microbial Resistance, said in a statement. “Losing carbapenems could mean we are facing completely untreatable infections.”

We need to start a Manhattan style project, to fast track the development of new antibiotics, as well as experiment, with viral phages, and other non-antibiotic ways of killing bacteria. Also, we need to much more aggressively restrict the use of antibiotics on factory farms to enhance profit margins by allowing denser animal packing.

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  •  Tip Jar (39+ / 0-)

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    by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:29:43 PM PDT

  •  healthy squid, just what we need (7+ / 0-)

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:35:14 PM PDT

    •  LOL annieli I needed a good laugh. I missed the (2+ / 0-)
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      David Letterman monologue while listening to MSNBC reruns.

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      by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:03:00 PM PDT

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  •  Where's China Catching the Squid? (12+ / 0-)

    Off their own waters? Is this due to runoff from their lands and their animal antibiotics?

    It's not obvious; they could have ships harvesting anywhere in the world.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:38:54 PM PDT

  •  Physician's responsibilities (13+ / 0-)

    "Overuse of antibiotics, especially on factory farms has led to the emergence of broad ranges of microbes that are immune to nearly all of our existing antibiotics, meaning that soon even simple surgeries we've taken for granted will become extremely high risk events that may be too risky."

    From personal experience and from working in an ER, doctors are giving far too many antibiotics when they aren't needed. I am 71 and I remember being very young and the family doctor prescribing antibiotics for me everytime my parents took me for an office visit.

    Patients who come into an ER with a cough, sniffles, sore throat, etc. ask "can I have some antibiotics, doc?".  Part of their reasoning is they have been prescribed antibiotics for so long that they want them as soon as they think they are sick. i saw doctors try to explain that an antibiotic is not needed for viral illnesses and the patient would complain because they didn't get what they 'came for'. Taking an antibiotic when it isn't needed is not only foolish but it is dangerous. The meds can cause serious stomach upset, kill our natural bacteria and  promote  yeast infections.

    I saw a patient who had to have part of his hand removed due to a MRSA infection. His hand! Evidently it started as staph from a work accident.

    Our meat sources are extremely scary to me. Factory farms are horrible. I've dealt with the old-fashioned feedlot systems and this new and gigantic farm movement is absolutely going to kill a lot of people. I'm so glad I'm a vegetarian.

    "Just when you think you've lost everything, you find out you can lose a little more." Bob Dylan

    by weezilgirl on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:43:09 PM PDT

    •  MRSA (10+ / 0-)
      I saw a patient who had to have part of his hand removed due to a MRSA infection. His hand! Evidently it started as staph from a work accident.
      MRSA is staph. Antibiotic resistant staph. (Methacillin-resistant Staphylococcus Aureus)

      I myself am a MRSA patient. An athlete's foot infection became subsequently infected with MRSA.

      I damn near lost my left leg from the knee down. And did, in fact, lost quite a bit of tissue there. And it took me 3 1/2 years to heal.

      I assure you most solemnly, no joy here at all.

      :-(

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:00:27 PM PDT

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      •  I was not even close to what I meant to say. (9+ / 0-)

        I am tired and that is what I meant. So many people don't take staph seriously enough and I wasn't clear at all. I had strep once and ended up with staph in a surgery site from a mastectomy. I remember being in the hospital 10 days with IV antibiotics  and being very concerned for my recovery. No one takes strep seriously enough.

        I am so sorry about your situation. The pain must have been horrible. 3-1/2 years out of your life due to a resistant to antibiotics that used to work is really awful. I hope you are doing well now and without pain. I know my surgery site hurt for months after I got out of the hospital. Interestingly I've had to have 11 surgeries on that site and the surgeon has always suspected the damage from the infection has been the cause. I finally learned what pain pills are for. :)

        "Just when you think you've lost everything, you find out you can lose a little more." Bob Dylan

        by weezilgirl on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:09:54 PM PDT

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        •  Sorry to hear this weezilgirl. I hope you've (2+ / 0-)
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          recovered ok.

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          by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:51:33 PM PDT

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          •  I'm pretty good. (5+ / 0-)

            I fell and tore my rotator cuff three years ago and that was a huge setback. I'm now back to mowing, trimming and digging holes. That is a huge improvement from a year ago. I'm no sissy but the rotator cuff almost did me in. I wouldn't wish that off on an enemy. Maybe a rabid Republican but no one else.

            Thanks, HoundDog.

            “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

            by weezilgirl on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 10:02:27 PM PDT

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        •  our situations (4+ / 0-)
          I am so sorry about your situation. The pain must have been horrible. 3-1/2 years out of your life due to a resistant to antibiotics that used to work is really awful. I hope you are doing well now and without pain.
          Thank you. And I am indeed well; that last day in the woundcare center was nearly three years ago now.
          I know my surgery site hurt for months after I got out of the hospital. Interestingly I've had to have 11 surgeries on that site and the surgeon has always suspected the damage from the infection has been the cause. I finally learned what pain pills are for. :)
          Yikers!

          And I also know what the pain pills are for.

          Like you for me, I hope you are now doing well and are recovered, without pain.

          If you are in need of support, kosmail me.

          ;-)

          "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

          by thanatokephaloides on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 10:55:41 PM PDT

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          •  Glad to hear you are both doing well! (2+ / 0-)
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            Years of recovery and pain is so exhausting and emotionally draining.

            A dear friend of mine is currently dealing with 5 lower disks that are damaged or deteriorating. Watching her moving around in excruciating pain is painful for me. How she copes, I don't know.  The only thing that keeps her upright is her strong core muscles she developed from belly dancing. She's 72 and still dances...even roped me into it. I love it! Gives a girl a chance to dress up in bright colours and gauzy things and get exercise while having fun.

            A fo ben, bid bont. - Welsh proverb. ( translation: If you want to be a leader, be a bridge.)

            by Gwennedd on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 03:36:10 AM PDT

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            •  Gwennedd, (2+ / 0-)
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              what a wonderful experience you are sharing with your friend. I am so impressed that she dances AND you dance with her! I send good vibes to you and your friend.

              “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

              by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 07:04:21 AM PDT

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              •  Thanks! Getting exercise is SO important (2+ / 0-)
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                why not have fun while doing it! There is a whole group of us seniors belly dancing and we even put on a show once a year. Our instructor is my friend.

                A fo ben, bid bont. - Welsh proverb. ( translation: If you want to be a leader, be a bridge.)

                by Gwennedd on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 11:51:04 AM PDT

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                •  You rock! (1+ / 0-)
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                  Walking outside here is too risky because of ticks. Walking on the nearby road would get me run down by a log truck. A treadmill is boring but I've had a lightbulb moment. I'm going to move a small t.v. and watch movies while I 'walk'.

                  “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

                  by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 02:21:52 PM PDT

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          •  Thank you so much, thanatokephaloides. (1+ / 0-)
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            I do have days yet that I take to my bed from the pain. Not often, but a few.  

            “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

            by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 07:02:57 AM PDT

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            •  Damn! (1+ / 0-)
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              Thank you so much, thanatokephaloides.

              I do have days yet that I take to my bed from the pain. Not often, but a few.  

              Damn, I'm sorry about that!

              ;-(
              '
              '

              As I said privately, I'm here if you need me. Do check your kosmail; there's a fresh message there now.

              And I exult in your ability to belly-dance! With my near-destroyed knees, I can't really dance any more (although I do what I can with my arms and while seated).

              You go,girl!

              "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

              by thanatokephaloides on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 12:27:52 PM PDT

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              •  You're thinking of another poster who (1+ / 0-)
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                dances. I run from snakes here on the ranch. :) And an occasional cow who has a new calf.

                Man, knees are the worst. I ruined mine by photographing Indian rodeo for 15 years. But I'm sure they aren't as bad as yours. Did you do something in particular to damage them?

                I still get around except when I'm down. I have a lot of trouble getting up. I was looking into some lower cabinets and scooting around because I couldn't get up. My dogs thought I was playing so they jumped me and pulled me around the kitchen by my jean legs. It was hilarious.

                You can take this to private messaging again if you want to.

                “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

                by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 02:26:03 PM PDT

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                •  knees (1+ / 0-)
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                  You're thinking of another poster who dances. I run from snakes here on the ranch. :) And an occasional cow who has a new calf.
                  snark:
                  You ought to combine these two problems to solve them! Train this into your cows:
                  Snakes are bad for calves.... Snakes are bad for calves....
                  /snark

                  ;-)

                  Man, knees are the worst. I ruined mine by photographing Indian rodeo for 15 years.
                  Yikes!
                  But I'm sure they aren't as bad as yours.
                  Not necessarily; we'd (k)need to compare notes in serious detail (in private) to evaluate that. But each of us has a pretty good idea what the other faces.

                  And you're right, knee trouble just sux. For either of us or anyone else who has it.

                  Did you do something in particular to damage them?
                  Nope. One fine day in 2006 I entered the building I worked in a young, able man and, on the way out, the right knee went crack and down I went! When I finally managed to get out of the building, I was the semi-cripple I am today; the knees haven't ever worked right since, and eventually the left one became involved (probably because of the extra burden it was carrying because I favored the right one).

                  The orthopedic surgeon says that I wore the knees out with the physical activity I used to keep the obesity (a lifelong problem for me) down to a dull roar and to keep my pollution footprint small.

                  I still get around except when I'm down. I have a lot of trouble getting up. I was looking into some lower cabinets and scooting around because I couldn't get up. My dogs thought I was playing so they jumped me and pulled me around the kitchen by my jean legs. It was hilarious.
                  Yeppers, know that one TOO well! And, having no other animals than a pair of cats, they can't even drag me around worth a damn!!  

                  And give your woozles a pet for me!  :-)

                  "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

                  by thanatokephaloides on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 03:48:40 PM PDT

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      •  Sorry, to hear this thanatokephaloides. (4+ / 0-)

        I've been meaning to ask you about your name which sounds Greek to me.

        Thanatos was the death wish force in Freudian psychology which must have borrowed this from some Greek story.

        For some reason I remember kephalis may have something to do with "the head" of something?

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        by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:12:36 PM PDT

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        •  my moniker (4+ / 0-)
          I've been meaning to ask you about your name which sounds Greek to me.
          It's pidgin Greek. And a kludge, at that.
          Thanatos was the death wish force in Freudian psychology which must have borrowed this from some Greek story.
          θάνατος (thanatos) is the Greek word for death.
          For some reason I remember kephalis may have something to do with "the head" of something?
          κεφάλι (kepha'li) or κεφαλή (kephale') is the term for "head".

          The syllable - οίδ- means "like", as in "this one is like that one".

          The tail-end syllable -ης(-es) is for assonance, and to signify "this is a name", as in the tail end of the name Σωκράτης (Socrates).

          What I was going for was "Death's Head" or something like that. I wanted something to refer to the Grateful Dead (the band), and the traditional term for a Grateful Dead aficionado, the moniker "Dead Head", is almost never available as one of my fellow Dead heads has always appropriated it before I got there. (Including Daily Kos, as you'll discover if you click on the link.)

          My Greek alternative is Necrokephaloides (a closer translation for "Dead Head") but I think "Thanatokephaloides" sounds better.....

          ;-)

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          by thanatokephaloides on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:35:52 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks for sharing this with us Weezilgirl. (4+ / 0-)
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      by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:06:34 PM PDT

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    •  doctor-shopping for narcotic analgesics... (2+ / 0-)
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      ... is already being tracked, so the tracking can & should be extended to ABs.  If someone goes to a doc asking for needless ABs, the doc should be able to say No and then warn them that if they keep looking, they will be subject to penalties (along with whatever doc is prescribing).

      We got the future back. Uh-oh.

      by G2geek on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 01:23:02 AM PDT

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      •  Great idea. (0+ / 0-)

        I always joked about the charts in ER screaming "drugs, drugs, drugs". When a patient saw the triage nurse, she asked what drugs they are allergic to. They would check off every drug but the one they wanted. Hence, no allergies to morphine. :))

        “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

        by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 07:06:53 AM PDT

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    •  There is also the risk of C-diff. (1+ / 0-)
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      I've had it from using an antibiotic too soon after an antifungal. Nasty infection!! And even nastier meds to clear it up. I have heard it can be caused by using too many antibiotics as well

      I'm immune compromised because I take a biologic to help with severe psoriatic arthritis. So getting this infection was frightening. It can be fatal to people like me or the elderly.

      A fo ben, bid bont. - Welsh proverb. ( translation: If you want to be a leader, be a bridge.)

      by Gwennedd on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 03:17:33 AM PDT

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      •  The old saying " medicine is a two-edged (0+ / 0-)

        sword"    certainly applies to you. I hope you are doing well now.

        “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

        by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 07:08:42 AM PDT

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        •  I am, thank you. (1+ / 0-)
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          I went off the Enbrel for a few months after the episode. I found out what it was like to be in severe pain and unable to walk ANY distance or even hold a cup. I went back on the med.

          I decided that living with the risk was better than living a half life of constant pain and ongoing limits to movement.

          A fo ben, bid bont. - Welsh proverb. ( translation: If you want to be a leader, be a bridge.)

          by Gwennedd on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 11:45:02 AM PDT

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          •  Risk (1+ / 0-)
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            I certainly agree with you on living with risks. We can sit in the house or do something. My signature from Mary Oliver says it perfectly. Take care.

            “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

            by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 02:20:18 PM PDT

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  •  By the way, HD, great diary. (7+ / 0-)

    "Just when you think you've lost everything, you find out you can lose a little more." Bob Dylan

    by weezilgirl on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:43:46 PM PDT

    •  Thank you. And thanks for commenting. (2+ / 0-)
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      by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:13:13 PM PDT

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  •  As long as Rand-Friedman Republicans hold sway, (6+ / 0-)

    insisting that government can't or shouldn't be more than a night watchman (not exactly the Framers idea), the idea of our acting quickly will remain absurd. In their eyes catastrophic consequences are preferable and, in some perverse way beyond my ken, vindication.

    Marx was an optimist.

    by psnyder on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 08:58:16 PM PDT

    •  Which is just one reason we have to work extra (2+ / 0-)
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      hard to get rid of enough of them to win back the House no matter what the experts tell us about probabilities.  

      Polls said Eric Cantor was up 34% a few weeks before the election.

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      by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:54:00 PM PDT

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    •  Suppose they see illness (and poverty) as (1+ / 0-)
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      your well deserved "punishment" for sin?

      I have no doubt they see any kind of weakness or social failing in the same way. They have a righteous and vengeful god who visits penance upon those who stray.

      Their sins don't count because they pray and are forgiven.

      A fo ben, bid bont. - Welsh proverb. ( translation: If you want to be a leader, be a bridge.)

      by Gwennedd on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 03:48:04 AM PDT

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  •  Excellent diary and great point, HD! (3+ / 0-)
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    Tipped, recced, and hotlisted.

    "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

    by thanatokephaloides on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:01:28 PM PDT

    •  Thanks, thanks, and thanks. (2+ / 0-)
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      by HoundDog on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:14:22 PM PDT

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      •  if that's in squid and humans are eating it.. (1+ / 0-)
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        ... it will be in sewage and propagate accordingly.  Uh oh.

        Also may send some humans to the hospital, and propagate in the hospital setting.

        Don't you just love globalized trade?

        We got the future back. Uh-oh.

        by G2geek on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 01:27:03 AM PDT

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  •  This needs ATTENTION…eat chicken? (6+ / 0-)

    This issue isn't just about squid, which I don't eat, as I have worked in too many sewage treatment plants…

    What everyone needs to understand is that antibiotic overuse/misuse puts us all at risk.

    Here in North Georgia, like much of the country, the poultry farms and spreading poultry waste all over puts many, many of us at risk of exposure to microbes that antibiotics don't control. And we've not even looked at exposure from the food we are buying and eating, properly prepared and cooked, or not… [see the Barf Blog for more detail:
    barfblog | safe food from farm to fork
    http://barfblog.com

    Here's a Johns Hopkins School of Public Health article discussing research that shows how just driving along behind a chicken truck hauling chickens to processing, err, slaughter, puts one at risk of MRSA resistant bacteria---it's found on the dashboard of your car if you come upon a chicken truck, or in your air in the car...

    Imagine that you mishandled that chicken, or your salad greens were fertilized with chicken litter…

    the multinational meat processors, now owned by China, seem to be putting us all at risk of flesh eating bacteria, and worse…

    This really needs attention. Cipro for anthrax, or just for poultry weight gain? EU, 2006, takes action. US, not so much, yet...

    Ban on antibiotics as growth promoters in animal feed enters into effect

    http://europa.eu/...

    •  sadly, that horse has long fled (2+ / 0-)
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      full and antibiotics too

      it is difficult to get accurate numbers in the US, but it seems to be about 4 to 1, animal use vrs human?
      here are the numbers for australia
      Australia imports approximately 700 tonnes of antibiotics annually; of this, 550 tonnes are used for either veterinary therapy (sick animals) or growth promotion (higher yields of growth of farmed animals). Of the 33 classes of antibiotics used in animal and humans, one third are classified as of high to medium importance in human therapy.

  •  Need to explore Rife & Russian phage tech (2+ / 0-)
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    Before the west started developing antibotics, they experimented with lysic phages as described in the novel "Arrowsmith".
    Russia became quite good at developing phages, which were frowned on in the West because they are literally contagious cures and effects of clinical trials were very hard to do because the control groups kept contracting the phages and being cured.
    However effective lysic phages  target species of bacteria quite specifically and good ones completly wipe out the target population, so then the phage dies as well, so there arephage management issues of production and storage that must be worked out.
    Rife technology,  also has tremendous potencial for find frequencies which say,  increae the permebility of bacteria's cell to a given antibotic, but again this technology was/is going to be very hard to monitize, because once the frequency and wave form are found, they fairly quickly leak into common usage. I would recommend Spooky2.com as worth a look for anyone interested in this tech.
    While I consider some of the explainations far fetched, I had good results. I have also had good results  with using Neodendium  magnets to manage painful areas at my sternum and under my ribs. I believe that this is because the causitive agent is bacteria that use iron compounds from lysed blood cells to  make themselves tiny ferrite magnets to assist with ordering themselves in a biofilm, and strong externally imposed magnetic feilds disrupt the order necessary for the kind of diffusion control that allows the 500 times enhanced survival bacteria in biofilms enjoy.  

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    by Bluehawk on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:58:48 PM PDT

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    Be careful handling meat was wash surfaces and your hands well. Bacteria die when exposed to high heat.

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    by Kayakbiker on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 10:08:23 PM PDT

    •  Most bacteria die when exposed to high (0+ / 0-)

      heat.  However some of them, including some very nasty ones, require both high heat and high pressure plus steam.  As in being thoroughly saturated with 250 degree steam for 20 minutes.  Merely heating it to 165 or so won't help with those as not only is it not hot enough but it is a dry heat.

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      by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 01:44:56 AM PDT

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      •  Okaaay..going vegetarian! (2+ / 0-)
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        And before anyone tells me there is antibiotics in milk and eggs, remember, I'm Canadian and we don't put that crap in our farm animals.

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        by Gwennedd on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 03:59:07 AM PDT

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