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Every time I read about what Big Fossil Fuel is doing, I am reminded of the scene in the movie "€œThe Hunt for the Red October"€, when the executive officer of the Konovalov (an Alpha class attack submarine of the old Soviet Union) screamed at his Captain "€œYou arrogant ass, you have killed us!"€. This occurred as one of several torpedoes fired by the captain at the Red October acquired the Konovalov as its target. I am paraphrasing the fictional executive officer because the situation between Big Fossil Fuel and the human race is similar to what happened in the movie. The fictional submarine captain was so focused on the killing of the Red October, he developed a very severe case of tunnel vision. While he fired off torpedo after torpedo, he forgot to keep track of his torpedoes. He made one mistake after another resulting in the destruction of his own submarine by his own torpedo. Big Fossil Fuel has been so focused on profits and big bonuses for its Executive Suite officers, it developed its own severe case of tunnel vision; it forgot it was part of the human race.  It is constantly firing off one attack after another at its perceived enemies/critics. While Big Fossil Fuel has been attacking environmentalists, regulators, competitors, and renewable energy suppliers, it has ignored the torpedo with the name EROEI Ratio. And that torpedo has acquired Big Fossil Fuel and the human race as its targets.

Before reading the rest of this paper, please read this article The inevitable demise of the fossil fuel empire in the Guardian by Nafeez Ahmed. It will provide you with a very good preface to this paper.

Since the best data available concerns Big Oil, the focus of this paper will narrow itself to Big Oil. The EROEI Ratio will put Big Oil out of the business of energy supplier for the human race. It will also then take out Big NatGas, Big Coal, and Big Nuke, but later. So, what is EROEI Ratio? The acronym stands for Energy Returned On Energy Invested. This ratio is one of the primary components of the concept called Peak Oil€. The full title of Peak Oil is Maximum Rate of Production of a Non-Renewable Commodity€ which is usually depicted as a bell shaped curve. The EROEI Ratio graph looks like this:

Chart of Energy Returned On Energy Invested Ratio. It is used to determine when to stop drilling.
The dot on the left side represents domestic oil in 1930 having a ratio of 100:1. The middle dot is 1970 at 30:1. The right side dot is 2010 at 15:1. The question is; €œWhat will be the ratio by 2020?€ The ratio will be in the single digits, but most likely 2:1. These are only estimates because of the shroud of secrecy that covers all recent data.

How and why would EROEI torpedo Big Oil? Simple, when the ratio hits 1:1, you stop drilling for oil to burn or you go out of business very fast. How does an oil company know when it is approaching 1:1? While the exact time is difficult to predict because of corporate secrecy, a good estimate can be made from comparing the capital expenditures (CapEx) against production revenue (ProdRev) from their quarterly reports. When the CapEx budget is increasing while ProdRev is decreasing over a considerable amount of time, this is an indicator of decreasing EROEI Ratio. Then use Linear Algebra (straight from high school math) to determine when these two lines cross each other and that is when the ratio is 1:1. I will leave it to those who have access to the hard numbers of these oil companies to calculate the current estimate of when these companies stop being oil companies. According to recent Bloomberg reports, some shareholders are already doing the math. And, so are the banks who were loaning these companies billions of dollars to continue drilling for oil.

There is an interesting side note that needs to be mentioned here. Production revenue should also be climbing even if the production of oil is declining because the price of oil should also be climbing as it becomes scarcer. But the price has stayed fairly stable in the range between $90 pb and $112 pb for West Texas Intermediate (WTI) and $105 pb and $124 pb for Brent ICE. Why? It appears that when the price of oil breaks out of the top of those ranges, the US and the world'€™s economy suddenly slows down. This has occurred three times in the last 3 years for WTI and twice for Brent.

Price of oil, WTI & Brent over last 5 years. Trend lines added.
The red line is considered the current base line price of oil. Below this line, producers cannot afford to put their oil on the market. Some analysts think this line is already at $90 pb. The black line is the trend line for the bottom of each trough. The green line is the upper boundary of the range. The world economy does not function well when oil gets too expensive. As soon as oil gets too high, the US and the world'€™s economy abruptly slows down and the price of oil plummets for a few months. However, the trend lines point to a breakout in late 2014 or early 2015. This implies the price of gasoline in the US will also rise sharply above $4.00 per gallon and stay there. More than likely, a new range will be established probably near $150 per barrel WTI.

Now, you would think the oil companies have already done the math to determine whether they are getting close to 1:1. According to one Bloomberg market analyst, they have, because they are conducting what appears to be a "Going Out of Business"€ fire sale of assets. The purchase of XTO by Exxon Mobil has not changed the downward trend of oil production. The number of asset sales are too numerous to list here, but you can find one in the newspaper every two weeks or so. Shareholders are also figuring this out. They have begun to demand that oil companies stop spending on CapEx on extremely high risk projects such as tar sands and extreme deepwater drilling projects. Besides being a high risk for climate change/global warming threats, these projects also are at very high risk of not returning on investments of CapEx.

Who is saying there is extreme risk on not making a positive return on investments? Just about everybody, but let us start with the US Dept of Energy'€™s Energy Information Administration (EIA). It has been putting out the Annual Energy Outlook (AEO) report that has some very revealing charts in it relating to the domestic production of crude oil. The AEO 2013 Early Release has the following chart which was removed from the Final Release report (supposedly because the oil companies objected that banks and other investors might see it and refuse to loan anymore money for future projects).

US Dept of Energy, Annual Energy Outlook 2013 Early Release,, p.1
While oil production will climb at a very fast rate until 2016/2017 period, it will peak near 2019. Then a precipitous drop begins near 2021 which continues until 2029. At 2030, a mysterious leveling occurs until 2040. Upon further study, several components of the chart are highly suspect and when critically analyzed by neutral and highly knowledgeable Non-Government Organizations (NGO), the chart looks even worse with oil production dropping to 3.25 million barrels per day in 2040.

For example, the Alaskan Pipeline is threatened with shutdown because the flow of oil is so low the pipeline cannot operate at all. The reality will soon be no oil flowing from Alaska except in the summer by tanker.

The second anomaly is the "€œOther lower 48 onshore"€.  You will notice the steady decline in oil production (47% over 22 years or 2.1% per year) until it hits 2011. Then, miraculously, the decline becomes an increase until 2019 before it makes it final dive of 24% to 2040. There is no valid economic reason for the temporary increase of future production numbers except to help the oil industry to get more money from banks and investors in order to keep drilling.

For the "€œLower 48 offshore"€, production will decline, not increase, because EROEI Ratio will continue to impede further drilling. It gets very expensive in energy to punch holes in the ocean bottom and only get small quantities of very heavy and very sour crude oil mixed with very high pressure natural gas, like BP found at Macondo #1.

Lastly, EROEI Ratio has already caught up with "Tight oil"€ (actually, this refers to both "€œtight"€ and "€œshale"€). Reports from Bloomberg TV are questioning the ability of shale and tight oil to achieve the fading goal of €œ"energy independence"€. As the sweet spots are drilled out and depleted, the drillers have to move to less sweet spots (lower production rates) which are harder to drill (increased CapEx). So, the drillers have to replace the depleting former high production wells with less productive wells. And they have to drill more of the less productive wells to keep increasing total production. This leads to independent drillers spending $1.50 for every $1 they get from production. That is a fast way to go out of business. This applies for both wet and dry fracking operations.

What is keeping this merry-go-round going is the game the drillers are playing with investment bankers and commodity investors. As long as the drillers are able to fool investors into the false promise of future increases in production, the investors keep giving the drillers money to keep drilling even as the losses continue to pile up. There is an article, The Shale Game, in the Fort Worth Weekly that describes this "game" very clearly. This looks like a bad case of boom and bust. It is worse because as the last financial disaster affected everyone on the planet, this will affect the food on everyone's table instead of their check book.

This article, "Petroleum project costs worldwide benefit Texas prospects", gives perspective on the mindset of Big Oil. Instead of looking at solar at the best alternative, their mindset requires them to go back to past glories and re-drill them.

Before we can conclude, two other pieces of information are required. In the same AEO 2013 report, there is a graph of where the US consumes energy by source and how much. The graph (units are quadrillion BTU) below shows the US needing about 17.3 million barrels (converted from quadrillion BTU) of oil per day until 2040. If we need 17.3 million and will only be pumping about 3.5 million and if we can'€™t take the difference from the rest of the world, we have a very big problem.

US Dept of Energy, Annual Energy Outlook 2013 Early Release,, p.8
The second item is the time it takes to build the infrastructure of alternatives. Nuclear reactors take 6 to 8 years to get operational. Coal powered electric plants take 4 to 6 years and require development of water and coal resources. Same goes for natural gas powered plants. But solar plants take only about 1 to 2 years in the 100+ MWh range to be operational. The low relative cost and speed of construction are the two key factors in deciding what we concentrate all of our resources upon and our hopes for the future.

Back to the original question: Has Big Oil Already Killed Us All? The answer is; Not all of us, just yet. A very large number of us are at great risk and the longer we wait, the larger the number at risk will get.

The other part of the answer depends on how fast can we replace oil before the economy collapses from a lack of sufficient oil supply. If we are looking at 2019/2020 as the tipping point, it gives us 5 to 6 years to build enough solar power to replace the decline in oil supply. Why solar? Because it is the only energy source that can be built in quantity in 5 years. My numbers says we have to get to the build rate of 1 GWh per week. The US built ~2.5 GWh in all of 2013.

This also requires that our transportation system be converted to electricity as fast as possible. President Obama has been working on both solutions since getting into office in 2009. The other action is to use the remaining oil as efficiently as humanly possible.

A final note about the very severe case of tunnel vision suffered by Big Oil and Big Fossil Fuel: Tunnel vision can be fatal. In aerial warfare, pilots would get so locked in on destroying a target, they would forget the danger they are flying into. For example, dive bomber pilots would get so locked on to the target ship they were dive bombing; they would forget they have to release the bomb before they went past the point of no return. The point of no return is where physics says the plane does not have enough room to pull out of the dive before hitting the target or the ocean.

As for Big Oil and Big Fossil Fuel, they too are so locked into drilling and mining fossil fuels, they can'€™t see anything else. We, as a society, must either force Big Fossil Fuel to break out of their tunnel vision or break free of Big Fossil Fuel. President Obama took a step in breaking free this past week with the Carbon Reduction Rule for the EPA. More on the next steps in my next article.

If this article made you think of the future of the human race and what it will take to ensure its survival, please consider contributing to my campaign on my web site. My campaign is to get the word out on the nature of the crisis and what can be done. As the article indicates, I have the vision to see a little into our future. And I also have the knowledge, training, and experience to create workable and effective solutions to the problems we will face in that future. When I assume office, I shall implement what I described in this article and in future articles.

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Originally posted to DavidECozad on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM PDT.

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  •  Good Luck With Your Contest, and Don't Be Shy (10+ / 0-)

    about referencing your candidacy in titles you post here. We're first and foremost about electing more & better Democrats, so you'll get readers and hopefully donors who might be missed even if your title, like this one, interests many of us.

    Let's also promote home and neighborhood solar, which can move us faster than the grid would allow big farm solar and wind.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 12:46:24 PM PDT

    •  It is refreshing to read your priorities (1+ / 0-)
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      Much too frequently I think Democrats get lost in the politics and miss the barn! In Texas there are 36 Congressional Districts, 24 Republican/Tea Party Incumbents and 12 Democratic Incumbents. It will take at least 7 more Democrats being elected from Texas in 2014 to break the yoke of Red Dictates of Federal Initiatives and THEM determining what gets federal funding. Yet even few Texas Democratic Activist realize that NO CONGRESSIONAL RACE IN TEXAS in 2014 is targeted as Red to Blue by the DCCC. Therefore no race in Texas wlll get a share of the funds raised by the DCCC. To be listed on the DCCC's webpage as a Congressional Candidate you must raise $300,000.

      At Texas's State Convention next week there are no plans for the Party to even bring the Congressional Candidates to the state for a "Group" shot let alone let them address the convention! Somehow it strikes me that some of the reasons that there are 2 Republicans in Congress from Texas for every Democrat probably rests as much with us as with the Republicans!

  •  No, I've seen the Mad Max movies (3+ / 0-)
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    Life will go on.

    •  Earth went millions of years (1+ / 0-)
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      between explosions in life. whether it's a natural event like an asteroid or an organism modifying the environment, there will come another period of dead planet.

      that is until life springs forward again.

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 12:57:13 PM PDT

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      •  Millions of years, (5+ / 0-)

        I am talking about today. I am talking about my children and grandchildren. If this situation is not fixed, my children and grandchildren will die. From your comment, I take it you either don't have children or have already let them go forth into the wide cruel world.

        I was raised to fight against what threatens my life and the lives of those I love and care about. I will fight until I am dead or the threat goes away. In this case, Big Fossil Fuel just needs to be educated in how their activities are going to kill us all, including themselves. If they can't be educated, we do the job ourselves and leave them in the cold dark.

        •  I think it is a bit of the old Marine Corp Officer (1+ / 0-)
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          in you David that keeps you fighting for others. I've watched you during this campaign and invariably you are the one who is extending a hand to the candidates down-ticket, doing what you can to help with whatever resources come along. You are gifted at looking at the rules and finding legal ways to get the job done when others seem to hide because it takes time and effort to figure out the process and understand how to work within it and get the priorities covered for yourself and others.

          You understand that lots which is business as usual is counterproductive and lost which should be a "no brainer" seems to be lost on lots of folks. I guess that is one thing that set you apart even in those "old days" when you were much "younger." Assessing the realities and setting priorities and accomplishing them with others is a sign of leadership. We definitely need more of it in Congress. Unfortunately much of those who "lead" are heading us over the edge of a seemingly bottomless cliff.

      •  This planet hasnt been dead since the first life (1+ / 0-)
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        appeared. Life never had to start over from scratch.
        Life got knocked back quite a few times, severely several times. But the planet hasnt been dead for billions of years.

        •  Death of humanity and death of the planet (4+ / 0-)

          are two different things. You are right the planet will go on after the death of humanity even if it is only as ice worms or bacteria. I am not concerned with that perspective. I am concerned about my children and grandchildren surviving the energy drought that Big Fossil Fuel is forcing on us.

          Big Oil, especially, has been using their power to keep themselves as the sole supplier of mobile energy to society. For over a century, that worked out for both sides of the equation. But Big Oil is showing signs they can't keep up their side of the bargain. Big Oil needs to either take up the task of supplier of solar power or give their money and power to those who will.

          •  Humanity wont go extinct, neither will (1+ / 0-)
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            higher forms of flora and fauna. It will mean the 'end of civilization as we know it' as they say in all the movies.
            The Earth will be inhabited by a considerably smaller number of people dwelling in the new temperate zones. If theres a billion instead of 7 or 8 billion, it might be better for everyone in the long term. Pretty tuf on those caught in the transition. It wont be like Venus or WATERWORLD. It might be like a MAD MAX movie for awhile. But the really hard part isnt going to come in this century, ie your offspring's lifetimes.

            •  I'm not certain of that. (2+ / 0-)
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              We are a niche life form with a relatively limited climate range. Extinction is most definitely possible. But probability is impossible to calculate due to changing conditions. Those that survive will evolve to the climate.

              Will people burrow and wait it out? Of course but after 100 years genomic mutation due to inbreeding will weaken those pods.

              What will survive will no longer be able to be classified as Homo sapiens.

              •  H. sapiens once had a population of around 10K - (2+ / 0-)

                about that of a couple of very small towns- total. That was the bottleneck and is entirely possible to revisit. I don't think that total extinction is likely, but a very low, scattered and variable population on that scale is at least possible. A population stabilizing in the neighborhood of 100K to a few million, across at least 5 continents, is more likely. Boom & bust cycles of population more like most other species seem likely as our ability to compensate, (via technology) for variations in climate and other conditions erodes.

                The first several generations, especially in the developed world, would show an enormous leap in mortality due to the length of time and number of generations that modern medical intervention has allowed non-survivable conditions to live and breed offspring. That first winnowing will be brutal.

                About inbreeding: Look to the Amazon, New Guinea and the South Pacific. Our genetic drift rate is fairly decent, not nearly as high as dogs or cats, but enough that a scattered population of 5-10K should be sufficient to carry on through the leanest times, short of catastrophe or really bad luck with mutations and recessives.  Or really genetically stupid marriage practices like polygamy. Most early societies had fairly strict marriage and incest prohibitions, those would have to be revived and strongly entrenched.

                Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
                ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

                by FarWestGirl on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 07:21:35 PM PDT

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                •  You are assuming that 10k will interact (1+ / 0-)
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                  I'm envisioning islands of 1% in whatever habitable environs they secure.

                  I doubt their behavior will improve enough to do something about reproduction before it is too late to do so.

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                  by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 07:50:30 PM PDT

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                  •  I agree, the distribution is something we can't (2+ / 0-)

                    really predict and it is a significant factor. Also, that low point is unlikely to happen anytime soon, it might take a hundred years to fall that low, or a thousand. Or we might get sufficient shit together to avert the worst of it. There are too many variables to chose between scenarios, all we can do is project possibilities.

                    Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
                    ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

                    by FarWestGirl on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 10:45:43 AM PDT

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                •  Yes, but why should that be the path when we (1+ / 0-)
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                  have resources at hand which enable us to adapt to the realities of depletion of fossil fuel!  Why wax poetic about the long term evolution of the planet when there is a crisis at hand which with prudent action NOW can avert the deaths of millions of people... especially when some of those will probably be young people who are alive right now and actually may be some whom you know?

                •  That first winnowing will be brutal. (1+ / 0-)
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                  I don't think you have any idea what brutal means in this case. So, lets set a baseline by using Somalia at the time of the movie "Blackhawk Down". A once proud people living in the ruins of a modern capital. The population has been reduced to 25% by starvation, disease, and constant warfare. The population would be reduced by another 50% to 75% if there was not food shipped in from outside Somalia. There are no hospitals, schools, grocery stores, etc. The only farms are protected and controlled by the local warlords. Now, lets add a dash of Syria by the use of chemical weapons. Assad of Syria still thinks he is winning his war so he is only using non-persistent chemicals that linger at a lethal level for a few hours or at most days. If Assad thinks he is losing, he will switch over to persistent chemicals that lasts years. These chemicals will contaminate the soil, the water, the air, and any plants growing in it. But that is not all, yet. Add in the effects of nuclear warfare. Even at the reduced levels of weapons currently available, the world could still induce a nuclear winter. And speaking of winter or a lack of it, lets throw in the final stages of global warming/climate change.

                  Why do I know about this? One of my assignments when I was a US Marine Corp officer was the Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Warfare officer. My job was to protect the Marines of my battery from the effects of those weapons. I took the responsibilities of my job very seriously and studied very hard.

                  WHY! WHY! WHY! Why would you want to subject the surviving 2% of humanity to live in the world I described above for 10,000 to 20,000 years??? Why do that when we could avoid it by working very hard and spending a lot of money to fix it. It is like letting your house collapse because you did not want to spend the money to get rid of the termites infesting your house.

              •  We don't have centuries or even decades! (3+ / 0-)

                You are still thinking on a climate change/global warming timeline. We will be lucky if the oil drought/energy crisis gives us years instead of months.

                And humans don't evolve in the face of sudden mass starvation. We fix it now or we die later.

                •  I sent you the article from the Guardian (1+ / 0-)
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                  which you recommended at the first of the diary that people read because it said precisely what you've been saying for years. You know I hate this doom and gloom prognosis. However, I hate even more not knowing what can be done to avert it until after it is too late.  There are solutions and hopefully you'll be able to get some folks to thinking in terms of solutions.

                  David, the engineer in you always brings you around to practical applications instead of abstract speculation. I wonder how much each person will actually need to do in changing lifestyles and patterns to collectively make a significant change. I know just switching to energy saving light bulbs cut my electric usage by 1/2 a few years ago.  

                  Those things which individuals can do alone are what I'd call "Low Hanging Fruit."  You did one when you traded your truck for the electric LEAF.

                  However, there are other things which require capital and research. Some require political will to accomplish. Some can be instigated with legislation and others with research grants or grants from the private sector.  

                  Monday we were in a meeting with Tom "Smitty" Smith of Public Citizen. He considers among his greatest accomplishments working on getting passage of legislation which led to the generation of 10,000  megawats of wind power being installed in Texas. Of course he did not accomplish this solo. It was a concerted effort on the part of many people but he was there leading the charge of the "green wind" brigade.

                  There are opportunities for all of us -- for each of us -- to do what we can. Usually when we start looking for a way to contribute constructively in finding a solution, we find that we become enabled and enpowered through association with others who "get it" and "care enough about it" to "attempt to do something about it" and we discover that the solution is closer than we anticipated.

                  I think caring and trying is the key. Being resolved that earth will become dust and being willing to allow it to become dust on our watch are two entirely different things.

                  I'm stubborn. I like working with others (like you) who refuse to merely sit and bemoan the probably fate as the fossil fuel gets sucked out of the ground and the profits get banked off-shore by those who exploited the natural resources and transferred most of the expense for such development to others but kept the spoils for themselves.

                  I know you worked hard writing this series of articles because you really believe that there are SOLUTIONS but we are not moving rapidly enough in the direction which will help us avert the greatest (and unnecessary) loss of life.

            •  Not a MAD MAX movie (1+ / 0-)
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              This article is not about global warming/climate change. It is about a permanent oil drought that becomes a global energy crisis.

              I don't think you understand the severity of the impact of a sudden drop in the oil supply for the 7.2 billion people on this planet. In this country, oil grows our food. Oil transports our food to the processing plants and then transports it to the stores. Oil transport you to the store and back home. Oil picks up your trash and takes it to the dump. Think Somalia in the movie "Blackhawk Down".

              As governments start to crumble, think of those 310 million guns the NRA has pumped into our society. And as people start to die, they take their knowledge, skills, and experiences with them.

              And remember, humans don't go quietly into the long night. They fight to make sure the other guy goes into the long night, first.

              Professor Roper thinks we will stabilize around 1.5 billion. My projections which are based on military history says we will be lucky not to drop below 300 million worldwide. This projection is comparable to the fate of the people on Easter Island.

              As I have said before, we can prevent this die off if we get to work now. Build Big! Build Fast! Build Now!

      •  Google (1+ / 0-)
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        DK, that commenters name, and any petroleum product.

        Or just put on ignore list.

    •  Life will go on (2+ / 0-)
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      if it gets a little help. In my next diary, I will explain just what this problem will turn into if left to its current direction.

      You do understand the Mad Max movies were a little fanciful and loose with the logic of their environment. And in the end, everyone dies including the cute kids.

    •  Life can go on (4+ / 0-)
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      with some help. I intend to give it that help.

      Remember, the Mad Max movies did not have the one, two punch that Big Fossil Fuel is sending our way. First is the permanent energy drought that has a good chance to kill off about 95% of humanity. Then global warming/climate change starts gearing up to kill the other 4.999% of us.

      Why go through all that death and pain? Why not just fix the problem? Solutions are popping up like mushrooms after a soft warm rain. I even have a few solutions that I will be putting into future diaries.

  •  But I thought Oil was one of the 4 Food Groups. (6+ / 0-)

    And the more we consume, the more the economy grows!

    Infinite economic growth in a finite world.

    It's in the US Constitution, bub. Just after the right to own machine guns part.

    Home schooling and the Bible I've never read taught me all I know.

  •  5 or 6 years to "tipping point?" Probably right. (3+ / 0-)
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    But I don't see this sense of urgency in any of our leaders. How will you get them to appreciate the dire situation we are all in? ... How much money you got? Any millionaires or billionaires on board?

    muddy water can best be cleared by leaving it alone

    by veritas curat on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 01:16:42 PM PDT

    •  Urgency in our leaders (3+ / 0-)

      May I presume that you have seen your share of disaster movies where the government/corporation is too scared to tell the public or even let the public know the government knows about the disaster. Most governments are afraid to tell the public anything until it is self evident or the government has a fix. I think that President Obama and his administration started working on it with the stimulus package. Solyndra was one of the unfortunate failures that was expected to happen. Tesla is one of the successes.

      What President Obama needs is a few more people with experience at taking big risks with big and radical solutions and making them work. This is what I did for most of my life.

      It is not how much money I have personally. It is how many people with big money I can persuade to recognize the problem and apply the solutions I found. That is what I am working on now. I am getting a few nibbles from that level of money. But they are a wary bunch and don't like losing anything especially money.

      •  Hard to find big money not invested in (3+ / 0-)
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        Big Fossil Fuel. Good luck.

        I'd suggest putting an active link in your diary:

        for some reason yours is not.

        muddy water can best be cleared by leaving it alone

        by veritas curat on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:56:17 PM PDT

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        •  It just did not occur to me. (3+ / 0-)

          I was too busy making sure I had everything in the article correct and forgot to toot my own horn. Thanks for the reminder.

          Actually, the Big Money that was backing Big Fossil Fuels have seen what I wrote about in the article. They are realizing they need to change horses because the horse they are on is faltering. My job is to attract their attention to the solutions (the new horse) I have found. My job for most of my life was to find the technologies and the methodologies that made a product come into being. That is what I am trying to do here.

          •  Kosmail me links to your posts (4+ / 0-)

            When you post them and I'll republish them to the appropriate groups in order to expand the audience.

            •  Thanks, I will notify you. (1+ / 0-)
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            •  Thank you! (2+ / 0-)

              Every bit of help is appreciated in getting the word out. We need more foot soldiers -- especially those who are comfortable in the virtual domain and social media.

              If you are going to be in Dallas next week, come by the Dallas Convention Center at 1:30 Friday to room C142. David is one of the "presenters" at the Public Infrastructure "Pork Barrel" Caucus.

              In the Exhibit Hall his booth is 114 next to the Ready for Hillary booth. We welcome folks as volunteers. You do not have to be a delegate to volunteer or to attend the issue caucuses on Friday.

              •  Sorry I'm up in Portland (2+ / 0-)
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                Not planning on Texas in any context.

                Let me know and I'll repost stuff for you.

                I need your support, my paypal is:

                by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 10:25:44 PM PDT

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                •  Great. We need virtual help (0+ / 0-)

                  Wearing as many hats as our staff wears means that anything that can be covered virtually really helps in up hill challenger campaigns in red territory. However, the demographics of David's district has changed. Many of the Democratic Progressive voters, however, live in apartments and they are more expensive to track and reach.  That doesn't mean it can't be done.

                  When David ran before much of his support came from folks we'd never met who live in Florida and other Gulf Coast States who were not very thrilled (to say the least) at Barton apologizing for BP having to put money in escrow to repair some of the losses to their homes and businesses and the long term damage the environment which is the foundation of their tourism and fishing industries. Those folks had to literally fight their way through the DCCC and the State Party that year to find out if Barton had an opponent.

            •  Kosmail and others who will link to David's post (0+ / 0-)

              Please send me your email so I can add you to his virtual media team. Send it to

              I also recommend that you check out Gregory Perry, the retired Hydraulic Engineer from US Army Corp of Engineers who is running against Kelly Hancock for Texas Senate 9. Gregory will be with David and Tom "Smitty" Smith on the panel discussion in the Texas Democratic Public Infrastructure "Pork Barrel" Caucus Friday, June 27 in C-142 of the KBH Dallas Convention Center at State Convention. Folks do not have to be delegates to participate in the Issue Caucuses. There is no admission for any of the issue caucuses. There is a  $15 a day parking fee for the Convention Center Parking garage but the Convention Center is the first stop on the Red/Blue Lines past Union Station and train is only  $2.50 round trip for students and seniors and $5 roundtrip for everyone else. That includes Dart/Fort Worth T/ and Trinity Rail Express. The rail stop is inside the Convention Center.

        •  Thank you. (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm not bashful. I'll give you a direct link where you can send this guy some cash by ACT BLUE in his quest to retire Smokey Joe Barton from the U.S. House of Representatives. This is someone where every cent you can spare will be used frugally and used to get the message out not only for his own campaign but for the entire Democratic Ticket. There are counties where David is the only Democratic candidate working. (The state party and Wendy Davis campaign are not targeting the smaller counties.)


    •  I think President Obama made a move on it today (1+ / 0-)
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      with his announcement of the OCEAN POLICY. It's not a solution to the fossil fuel depletion, but there are some interesting things occurring in some places with fuel from ocean plants. Of course that has nothing to do with the President's Ocean policy but respecting the earth and not destroying it just because we can is a step in the right direction, in my estimation!

      Another hard fought battle was the revision of the fuel standards for automobiles.  We are way behind much of the rest of the developed world. However, it's a step in the right direction, even if it occurred much later than it should have.

    •  Congressional races are limited (0+ / 0-)

      to $2600 per individual donor each election cycle (Primary and General). The billionaires jump into the super pacs and no, we do not have a super pac. Other federal candidates can give $5000.oo.

      In Congressional races, donations of $25 to $1000 are crucial because of the limits per donor.  Just giving what you'd spend on a fast food meal one day out to a congressional challenger makes much more difference than you can imagine in races like David's. I never cease to be amazed. The folks I least expect to be able to give anything and who neither of us ask, step up and hand us their widow's mite at just the moment when we are scrambling to meet a deadline. It is because of them that we have a booth at the state convention and were able to place a substantial print order with the union bug.

      Donations from working folks and folks on social security add up and thus far we've stayed in the black with most of our donations coming from the "grey folks" who are fighting mad over what is being done to their grand children's generation!

      We know that Grandma's are fierce. I am sandwiched between two incredibly brilliant Grandpa's who are running for political office because they are in overdrive on the endangerment to their grand kids! (The other is Gregory Perry). One of Gregory's quotes (Which I encouraged him not to use) is "we don't have to worry about roads if we don't fix education because without education no body is going "no" where!"

      He's right. I could just see the misquotes: Senate candidate says we don't have to solve gridlock! He doesn't say that but we'd have spent the rest of the election cycle explaining that.

      For you non-Texans, a few years ago the Texas Legislature cut over $5 bill off of school financing causing the most massive cut in teachers and largest teacher student ratio in modern history. The year before we saw a gigantic escalation in development from shale gas via horizontal drilling and fracking. There are exemptions and tax breaks for production using new expensive methods of development. Even though those are now old methods, they were not use much because the benefit did not outweigh the cost.

      All at once almost every new well drilled was horizontal and the price of oil and gas plummeted. They took the exemptions to save their bottom lines and wha-lla! the Permanent School Fund which is the major financing mechanism in Texas for Public School financing lost billions. So the leg shaved over $5 from the school budget to account for the $6.1 billion in corporate welfare given to the horizontal drillers/frackers.  Surprise surprise, within two years the number of under performing schools escalated to alarming rates.  Could there be a cause and  effect? Are there limits on the number of pupils even the best teachers can manage and teach in one classroom? Does any of the date acquired over the years in classrooms all over America say that firing teachers and crowding kids into one class room with no or few teacher's aids impact student learning and performance?

      The truth is that the children in Texas are subsidizing the O & G industry! My point is how we manage our energy and how we produce it and what we subsidize  (old dirty techniques or industry best practices and innovation into sustainables) impacts much more than air and water. In Texas it reaches into the infrastructure of the next generation of America's workforce. Exploiting our natural resources should not be on the backs of the school children!

  •  Thank you for the article and for running (5+ / 0-)

    for office. We need more intelligent candidates like yourself who are big-picture thinkers on important issues such as energy.

    Since you're a strong supporter of solar energy, you may be interested in a private economic incentive program called SolarCoin. Solar electricity generators large and small are granted digital currency at a rate of 1 SolarCoin per Megawatt-hour. I wrote an article about it on Daily Kos here.

    Good luck in your campaign!

    The most serious problem in American politics today is that people with wrong ideas are uncompromising, and people with good ideas are submissive and unwilling to fight. Change that, and we might have a real democracy again.

    by Eric Stetson on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 01:27:29 PM PDT

  •  Everyone who takes part in our oil-dominated (2+ / 0-)
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    energy-intensive economy bears a share of the blame.  Blaming just Big Oil is like blaming the drug cartels for all drug overdoses.

    You can tell Monopoly is an old game because there's a luxury tax and rich people can go to jail.

    by Simian on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 01:46:09 PM PDT

    •  Addiction (3+ / 0-)

      The share of the blame for 99% is extremely small, i.e. 0.000000000001%. It is like saying a 9 year kid he is to blame for his smoking habit that will cause his early and miserable death. All the kid did was to succumb to a multibillion dollar ad campaign that was designed to attack the immature centers of his brain with every type of lure known to mankind to get him addicted to their product.

      Please note that I did not blame just Big Oil, I included Big Fossil Fuel. The addiction of an energy intensive economy started when the economy started burning wood in great quantities at the beginning of the industrial revolution. It then continued with coal, then oil, then natural gas, and then nuclear. Even former President George W. Bush stated very clearly; "We are addicted to Oil!" He was mostly right.

      And this addiction lead to the over population of the world. And now that population is totally dependent on an ever increasing supply of relatively cheap and plentiful energy. Since Big Oil cannot keep up with that demand for energy, it is time for them to lead or step aside while solar picks up the baton that Big Fossil Fuel is dropping.

      I am upset that Big Oil is refusing to do either. In that case, I think it is time that society kick them out of the way so we can all survive.

      •  Transitioning, not Cold Turkey (1+ / 0-)
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        Agree, David.  Sadly, to some degree, many of us have become victims of the dirty energy campaign.  After the landmen conned entire communities to sign mineral leases for activity which would later foul our air and contaminate our water, we turn on our televisions to see well-dressed pretty women in movie studios telling us how wonderful and safe shale gas is ~ our energy future.

        Like any addiction in order to kick the habit we must replace that old habit with something new.  I'm not saying the world can go "cold turkey" since fossil fuels control nearly every aspect of our lives from the food we eat, to the products we consume, to the energy used to heat our homes and drive our automobiles.  But let's face it, fossil fuels are an exhaustible resource. The clock is ticking, and we are running out of time.  

        Just as it is not recommended that a drug addict go cold turkey as withdrawal symptoms produce too many unpleasant side effects ~ including violent behavior ~ we must stop the dependence.  This task is daunting.  What we can do now is transition to solar and wind.  And to make that transition happen more speedily, we need to elect politicians who are willing to pave the way for a clean energy future.  This technology is already here.  We just need to get the stumbling blocks out of the way.

    •  I use the train if I can't walk or ride my bike (2+ / 0-)
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      I cut plastics wherever I can. I'm still trying to find a big colander I can afford that isn't plastic. So I make due without.

      I can't wait for hemp Saran Wrap and zippy bags for food storage.

      •  I sold my pickup for a Leaf (2+ / 0-)

        A friend of mine paid me enough to pay for the down payment for a lease on a Nissan Leaf. I am too busted up to walk any distance and riding a bicycle in Texas is painting a target on your back. Although, if I was in my teens, twenties, or even my thirties, I would be riding a bike just like I use to do.

        I recycle all plastics, first by reusing an item until it is broken or leaks, then the recycle bin. If I could talk the City of Arlington into recycling Styrofoam, I would recycle that also.

  •  I like this clearer-eyed view... (3+ / 0-)
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    It's fascinating to hear how oil companies are sweating not only squeeze every ounce of product out of the soil, but to pull the wool over the consumer's eyes while they hurdle the world towards a dangerous tipping point. By this line of thought (that oil will peak in six years), another bubble is about to burst.

    I wonder what the environmental implications will be? Is it reasonable to assume that carbon emissions will drop so steeply after peak that all our current anxieties about CO2 levels will seem out-dated?

    Interesting to think about..

    Once more unto the breach..

    by Wolfbrooks on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 03:06:56 PM PDT

    •  The next bubble (4+ / 0-)

      is not the peaking of oil (that occurred in 2005 or 2006) but the collapse of the political and investment world that is keeping the drilling going.

      The best way to understand the environmental implications if we fail to switchover to solar is to read about Easter Island's history.

      The carbon emissions from the burning of fossil fuels will drop in direct relation to the number of people capable of burning them. The question is how many people will be alive. If we make the switchover to solar for our energy source, carbon emissions will be reduced as we replace fossil fuels. We will still burn fossil fuels until we complete the switchover.

      During and especially after the switchover to solar is complete, one method of storing solar power will remove carbon dioxide from the air to produce methane. The methane will be used as feedstock for producing fertilizers, plastics, etc. It can be used as emergency power generation by burning it in old natural gas power plants.

      •  Unfortunately the energy barons (1+ / 0-)
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        control the political process through campaign donations, soft money, dark money and post governmental "service" lucrative "careers"  They are "vested" in the folks who appoint and appropriate and who can hire or fire the regulators!  The money necessary to suck less and less fuel out of the ground increases as the fuel decreases. So they charge more because of supply and demand and the citizens get rooked into subsidizing them through transfer of wealth by tax breaks/ exemptions, and grants.

    •  When natural gas drilling invaded our town with (1+ / 0-)
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      all feet a few years ago, it became obvious that some of the "bigger" invaders were having trouble getting the investors/and exploration loans needed to drill wells they'd gotten SUPs approved.  I thought then that only a crash of their companies would save us from the emissions. (Those things we can smell, sometimes see, and feel but invariably TCEQ doesn't detect when they show up and file reports. Now it is obvious that some of these "top tier" drillers are going belly up. As the wells age, become less productive, and it costs more to get less out of them, the danger to those living adjacent to them increases.

      Currently, the profit most of the industry is taking is because of subsidies and tax breaks. It is really a transfer of wealth from the working middle class and poor to the energy speculators. When are Americans going to wise up and say "enough is enough!"

      If they'd let us convert to solar in apartment and it were affordable, I'd do it in a flash! It angers me to know that the more I conserve, the higher the rate I pay for electricity! It angers me to see my electric bill jump 3 to 6  times the normal rate EVERY JANUARY because they profiteer off the grid and manipulate it s o that they can pay higher costs to their sister companies and pass that cost along to the consumer.

  •  good thing they have set aside reserves to (2+ / 0-)
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    properly plug and cap and clean up when they are done.

    right? they have, right?....oh.


    This machine kills Fascists.

    by KenBee on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 04:00:07 PM PDT

    •  That is the picture in the Barnett Shale (2+ / 0-)
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      I live on top of the southern side of the Barnett Shale. While I don't have a Gasland problem, I do have neighbors and friends who do have problems with the fracking operations and drilling. One of the fears around here is the fracking companies will be so short of funds when the wells go dry, they will not be able to afford permanently plugging the wells. This is already occurring in Wise County where the Barnett Shale was first drilled.

      Another problem is the belief by the fracking companies that a new wonderful technology will appear out of the clear blue sky. And this new technology will allow them to re-frack the old wells to get a whole new burst of gas from them. But physics says otherwise.

      •  typically they sell the clapped out fields (2+ / 0-)
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        to more fly by night operators whose shoddy practices are famous..those cheat on the regs go for it good old boys..then they are abandoned after being sold to somewhere/somebody salted gold mines. And I suppose they are bundled and insured and tranced and whatever financial horseshit can be scammed.

        No worries, we the tax payers will pay in any number of ways while they golf and yacht.

        This machine kills Fascists.

        by KenBee on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 10:00:24 PM PDT

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        •  You nailed that one square on the head KeeBee. (2+ / 0-)
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          When the Arlington City Council was rushing headlong into gas drilling they talked about how reliable the ones were who were going to drill here. I told them that who we'd get was not who we'd start out with. Even those who were "strong" then aren't strong now. There is a reason why most oil and gas production used to occur out in someone's pasture. Wasn't so good for the cattle but it was safer than having it in high density neighborhoods and by schools and playgrounds!

    •  Oh KeeBee you do have a sense of humor! (2+ / 0-)
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      They don't even know where the wells are let alone have resources (or a working plan) to contain and cap them!

  •  Snake Oil: How Fracking's False Promise of Plenty (4+ / 0-)

    Imperils Our Future

    Highly recommended.

    Kindle price is only $4.39

    Book Description

    Publication Date: July 24, 2013

    The rapid spread of hydraulic fracturing ("fracking") has temporarily boosted US natural gas and oil production... and sparked a massive environmental backlash in communities across the country. The fossil fuel industry is trying to sell fracking as the biggest energy development of the century, with slick promises of American energy independence and benefits to local economies.

    SNAKE OIL casts a critical eye on the oil-industry hype that has hijacked America's energy conversation. This is the first book to look at fracking from both economic and environmental perspectives, informed by the most thorough analysis of shale gas and oil drilling data ever undertaken. Is fracking the miracle cure-all to our energy ills, or a costly distraction from the necessary work of reducing our fossil fuel dependence?

    I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

    by Just Bob on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 05:24:49 PM PDT

    •  Thanks, Bob, for the info on the book (2+ / 0-)
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      I am a Vietnam era veteran, but I did not serve in Vietnam. I was at the Basic School (the US Marine Corp's company grade officer training school) when the peace accords were signed. So, I went to Okinawa instead.

      I understand the issue of which vet do you want to make the reply. I am always biting my tongue during my campaign.

      •  Ahhh David. (2+ / 0-)
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        It always does my heart good to hear you say that!
        For those who have not had the pleasure of knowing this guy in person, I'll tell you, he's pretty direct. He doesn't waste a lot of time trying to "spin things."

        But he is intelligent enough to realize that sometimes you just have to "consider the mindset of the source" and choose your battles accordingly!

      •  The issues you covered in the diary are covered (2+ / 0-)
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        in the book and much more and at book length. I had the impression you may have used the book as a source.

        Certainly, if we don't change direction very soon, there's going to be another crash. The fracking boom is not sustainable.

        Tell me again, where do I have to move to in order to vote for you?

        I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

        by Just Bob on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 05:33:21 AM PDT

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        •  My district is US Congressional TX6 (2+ / 0-)
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          which is located in north central Texas. It includes 25% of Tarrant County, all of Ellis and Navarro Counties. In Tarrant County, the district includes almost all of Arlington, Mansfield, Crowley, and parts of Grand Prairie.

          The area around the Cowboy Stadium is the most tricky because the Republicans wanted to deny my opponent the stadium just because he wanted it in his district. My opponent is not liked by most of the Republican Party or at least the Tea Party part.

          BTW, the nickname for my opponent is Smokey Joe Barton.

          •  We only have a very tiny part of Crowley (1+ / 0-)
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            They drew 33 out of 6 block by block and put as many Republican voters as possible in 6 while drawing the new 33 to pit the black central city of Fort Worth against the Latino communities of Dallas. I'm Democratic Precinct Chair in one of the few precincts in Arlington which has never voted majority Republican. I have my Democratic Congressman. I didn't have to die to get out of Barton's 6. So i"m working to give the rest of my neighbors a Democratic Congressman. David's District is the one Phil Gramm was representing as a Democrat when he decided ot champion Reagan's "trickle down non economics". Remember, that didn't please Speaker Tip O'Neill and the Speaker removed Gramm from Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee. Then Gramm resigned as a Democrat and ran as a Republican. When he decided to run for Senate, he hand picked Joe Barton.

            There are a lot of folks here in Arlington who have seen it as their duty to work to help someone eventually defeat Barton. David has served as Campaign Manage or Chief of Staff for several of them.   The creation of 33 and the redrawing of 6 gives us a much better shot because the district is now part of Tarrant (with Arlington David's hometown as the epicenter) and all of Ellis and Navarro Counties. Most of the voters live in Arlington.

            The media situation here is a nightmare. It is one, if not the, most expensive fragmented media market in the nation. To successfully run for City Council in Arlington cost more than it costs to run for some Texas Senate districts in less populated areas.

            We are fortunate that several of our staffers have expertise that campaigns usually have to pay big bucks to consultants.  We can stretch a dime farther and make it do more than any campaign I've ever worked in ... and that's not a short list.

  •  So when they report windfall profits every year... (2+ / 0-)
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    So when they report windfall profits every year what they really mean is they need more more money because raping consumers is very labor intensive. Got it.

    Good riddance.

  •  Since there is at least a 40 year lag between (2+ / 0-)
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    tipping points being triggered and noticeable changes in climate I'm afraid we have already done the damage and don't have any time left to turn it around at this point.

    The trillions of tonnes of methane sequestered in the arctic tundras and off the continental shelves have already started to melt meaning the runaway greenhouse effect has already begun. We would need to plant millions of acres of trees like today, all become vegans and/or figure out how to sequester billions of tonnes methane and CO2 out of the environment every day with some new currently nonexistent technology. I try to be optimistic but the more I look at this problem the more pessimistic I get.  

    Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

    by RMForbes on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 08:20:38 PM PDT

    •  The solutions to climate change (3+ / 0-)
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      global warming are the same for preventing the energy drought/crisis. Excess solar power can be stored in the form of methane by pulling CO2 from the air and water. The methane then can be used to make fertilizer for all of those trees we need.

      As for the methane hydride from the ocean beds and permafrost, that is a little trickier. I have some ideas that might alleviate the problem, but I don't know if they would work or not. When I get some money, I will check out those ideas. Or when I get elected to Congress, I will have a talk with the National Science Foundation and see what I can stir up there.

      Keep up your optimism, there is always hope until you are really and truly dead. There might be a real wizard behind the curtain.

      •  Fracking natural gas is dirtier than coal when (2+ / 0-)
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        well head leakage is taken into account. Also, meat production adds more greenhouse gasses, primarily methane, into the environment than all forms of transportation fuels combined.

        We could replace 10% of all our fossil fuels with biofuels produced from our sewage alone and much more if we turned our garbage and agricultural waste including manures into biofuels too (all with existing and scalable technologies). Biofuels produce 85% less CO2 than fossil fuels when burnt.

        Billions of tonnes of CO2 every spring could be sequestered by simply returning to traditional organic farming techniques and stopped poisoning our farm soils and waterways with petrochemicals.

        If we grew hemp as a normal rotation crop we could sequester another billion or more tonnes and replace most every product now made from timber (and petroleum) from hemp. I think it's criminal that we now cut down our forests to produce toilet tissue to be flushed away when we could be making a superior product from hemp.

        Yes there are solutions but I don't see the oil cartels and Monsanto's of the world giving up their strangle hold on our economy any time soon.

        Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

        by RMForbes on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 10:14:32 PM PDT

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        •  The oil cartels are in the same boat (1+ / 0-)
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          as we are. Their production of energy is decreasing because they are shipping a heavier and more sour crude. The heavier the crude, the lower is its energy content and the less the gasoline that can be made from it.

          This means the oil cartels will get weaker as the amount of usable oil products decrease in quality. Saudi Arabia's oil production is dropping to such a degree, the king announced a project costing $135 billion to build solar power and nuclear power plants to reduce their own consumption of oil to produce electricity. They need the income from exporting oil and burning it for electricity is a revenue loser.

          As for Monsanto, it will get rich selling seeds for food plants that need less fertilizer and less water.

          •  Nope...not buying it at all (1+ / 0-)
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            The oil cartels and the transnational corporations like Monsanto are not in the same boat as we are and creating a monopoly of food seeds is just another disaster in the making that will very likely end up killing millions of us ordinary folks.

            Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

            by RMForbes on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 07:59:34 PM PDT

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        •  You are right RM. (1+ / 0-)
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          Natural Gas is only cleaner on the consumption end/ not on the production storage or transportation!
          David and I were at the meeting for the NCTCOG Air Check Committee this week where data was presented showing that the gasoline and d. engines used on pad and compressor sites emit much more than were calculated thus pushing the region farther out of Air Quality Attainment. Most of the toxins are not even measured and the standards set are much higher than are known to be safe for human health. We haven't even met 2008 standards! The difference is the escalation of natural gas drilling in the region and the winds from the SE where the cement kilhs operate and where there are coal powered fuel plants.

      •  I'd love to get David and Dale Henry together for (0+ / 0-)

        chat. Dale used his multiple runs for Texas Rail Road Commissioner (Texas's Energy/Gas Drilling supposed to be regulators) to educate folks on water and petroleum engineering. Dale was one of the project engineers who helped to get California law changed to buy back excess energy created by wind power. He has patents on so many O & G procedures that it boggles the mind. People continue to come up with ideas they think are new and find that Dale has already patented them and field tested them but the industry had no will to implement them because they just flat out don't want to change their same old same old way of doing things, even with it is safer and even when make more money with the new processes because they capature product which was going into emissions!

    •  I understand. (2+ / 0-)
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      I get really discouraged and frequently think that we've let the battle consume our lives. For years it seems that life revolved around TCEQ and EPA hearings and City Council meetings where they red stamped gas well after gas well.  I have to remind myself that there are a few wells that didn't get drilled (one right under the window of a critical care nursing home). I have to remind myself that there are some changes in the gas drilling ordinance for the good but by and large we are still living in an industrial park instead of neighborhoods and everywhere we go there are emissions and there is no one even attempting to evaluate the "cumulative" impact of these emissions from various sources including over 350 natural gas wells in a 99 sq ft city. And hey, that's not even accounting for several thousand other wells within 10 miles of us!

      I think it will take the "crash of the petroleum empire" for us to be saved from the greed of our neighbors and elected officials! Unfortunately, those who orchestrated this drama take others -- the unwilling dissenters -- the modern day prophets who the town elders already know what we are going to say before we even approach the podium-- with them.

      I think it is ok (and probably even necessary) to be pessimistic. However, I can't let my pessimism deter me. To do so red stamps their abuse. to be quiet and ignore it makes me part of the abuse.

  •  The 3 fold increase in oil by rail to the west (2+ / 0-)
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    coast in the last three years is a threat. Permits are issued for 1 mile long trains of tankers full of crude-oil. It's being stored in Puget Sound for example where new tracks are going to destroy precious wetlands. The trains rumble through populated areas. There's no guarantee that these HazMat trains can avoid accidents and they will be deadly like Lac Megantic. Permits are being handed out fast and furious like Big Oil rules the day.

    Spike in oil trains precipitate rail safety concerns along West Coast

    U.S. residents along the scenic Columbia River are hoping to persuade state regulators to reject plans for what would be the Pacific Northwest’s largest crude-oil train terminal, the proposed destination for at least four trains a day, each more than a mile long.

    The fight over the terminal underscores a new reality on the West Coast: The region is receiving unprecedented amounts of crude oil by rail shipments, mostly from the oil boom in North Dakota, Montana and parts of Canada [Tar Sands dilbit].

    It's being stored on the West Coast in anticipation of Congress lifting the ban on US oil exports. The North American continent is being threatened and destroyed to satisfy the Asian market for oil. You could say Big Oil is killing us all.
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      small freight trucking company during the Carter Administration. I remember the long lines at the gas station and how we couldn't even find antifreeze to put in our cars that winter. My brother-in-law came home one day and threatened to go get some antifreeze out of the warehouse where the oil companies had boxcar load after boxcar load stored so they could price gouge.

      That is off topic but your comment caused a flash back. Many of us in Texas voted for an amendment for rail relocation in the '90s. The deal was that existing rails through the heart of big cities would be relocated and the rail company which owned existing lines would grant row for transit rail. BSFS fought for rail relocation at taxpayer expense. Then they bogged down commuter rail by demanding that the commuter rail operators assume 100% liability for anything that happened on that track even if it were the fault of the owners of the track!

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        into my neighobrhood every week and Arlington is the largest city in the USA without transit! Recently at the Cowboy Stadium 5 blocks east of me George Strait had the largest concert audience in the history of the USA.  Those parking lots are concrete. They have created a flooding nightmare especially for Six Flags Over Texas. That pavement is empty much of the week. It could be really CONSTRUCTIVE if the pavement were solar cells working to create energy. There are three churches in my neighborhood with several blocks of parking lots each. Those are also empty most of the week. When folks come in and present practical plans for these folks to capture the sun for a profit, they'll rush out like they did when the gas men came offering signing bonuses.

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      When Eric Cantor went down to defeat, a number of legislative items went down with him. As went Immigration Reform, so will go the plan to export crude oil. The ban was first put in place for the oil refinery corporations. The refineries make a lot of money by buying relative cheap domestic oil (WTI @ $106.30) and selling relatively expensive oil products (Brent @ $114.54). Most of the refineries are own by the vertically integrated major oil companies and are making a mint of money. They might not be producing enough oil, but they can still money on what they have

      So, the integrated major oil companies are not going to support lifting the ban until this leveraged deal turns against them.

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        people into office. They make it because Legislators vote tax breaks and subsidize old outmoded destructive processes but someday eventually some will die off and some others will get elected.

        With a little help from a lot of our friends inside and across the nation, it just might be you!

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