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Joni Ernst and Sarah Palin
Other big Republican efforts to woo women include Sarah Palin's endorsement of Iowa Senate candidate Joni Ernst. Ernst trails Democrat Bruce Braley among women nonetheless.
Republicans are still chasing the lady voters, figuring they should at least be able to run up the 2014 vote among the white suburban women who voted strongly for Mitt Romney in 2012. And now, in addition to pointing to the handful of Republican women running for office and scoffing "See, a woman! Regardless of her policy positions, she can't possible be part of war on women," Republicans are bringing the data:
About three weeks of internal polling and focus group research has identified jobs and household finances as the most important issues among 1,206 likely women voters, according to the Republican National Committee, which commissioned the surveys along with the National Republican Congressional Campaign.

Party officials said Obamacare was also a top issue, with 55 percent of women polled opposing President Barack Obama's signature domestic policy and 43 percent voicing strong opposition.

Hmm. That Republican poll is finding an awful lot more opposition to Obamacare than other polls, like the recent Bloomberg poll in which 32 percent of people thought Obamacare should be repealed, 56 percent agreed with the statement "It may need small modifications, but we should see how it works," and 10 percent wanted it left alone. It's not just that the "Republicans talk to women" poll shows something different than the majority of polls. It's that it's a Republican poll, and Republican pollsters suck.

While women overall are clear in their dislike of the Republican Party, it's certainly the case that there are demographics of women who are likely to vote Republican. And you can't fault Republicans for actually talking to voters other than rich white dudes. But maybe they shouldn't be so quick to publicize polling results that are significantly at odds with other polling, especially given their party's poor track record on polling.

That said, if Republicans want to tailor their 2014 message around questionable polling, I'm all for it.

Originally posted to Laura Clawson on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 07:29 AM PDT.

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  •  I couldn't agree more with: (18+ / 0-)
    That said, if Republicans want to tailor their 2014 message around questionable polling, I'm all for it.
    So am I!

    Please note that lamps in the MAGIC LAMP EMPORIUM are on a genie time-share program so there may be a slight delay in wish fulfillment. (◕‿◕)

    by Mopshell on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 07:45:09 AM PDT

    •  The more GOPers MESSAGE anything at all (6+ / 0-)

      the better for Democrats.

      I'm having trouble naming one single policy area where Republicans have a good idea. I know (a) it wasn't 100% that way once (Emancipation Proclamation was righteous) and (b) some voters still recall more modern better ideas to show how reasonable Republicans really are once you get to know them (Clear Air/Water Act, Affirmative Action) but... yeah. It's been going on two generations since Republicans participated constructively in government.

      That Republican party that some folks remember - and poll positively for - doesn't exist. Maybe, aside from tossing a few morsels to the riffraff, it never did.

      •  I agree, it wasn't always that way (0+ / 0-)

        but we can't give them the Emancipation Proclamation, at least, not as a party. Lincoln signed that as an Executive Order because his party were not happy about it! What a fabulous Executive Order - every other EO pales in comparison and you have to hand it to Lincoln for deciding to go this route rather than expend effort in months/years of persuading the party and Republic at large that it was the righteous thing to do.

        They definitely get Clear Air/Water Act, Affirmative Action etc, even the formation of the EPA which they're now trying to tear down. Heck, even the genesis of the ACA came out of the Heritage Foundation!

        It seems to me that the Koch brothers were the ones at the crossroads redirecting Republican policies down this current track. It seems to me that they are the ones who have taken over the GOP. Last night I saw their agenda for their latest secret meeting last weekend and I'm watching out for signs that party members are following that agenda. So far, multiple threats by GOP Senators to shut down the government again over the new carbon emissions standards seem to have come directly from that meeting.

        So much for the idea that the tea party has infiltrated and taken over the GOP from within; it's the Kochs who are the tail that is wagging the dog.

        Please note that lamps in the MAGIC LAMP EMPORIUM are on a genie time-share program so there may be a slight delay in wish fulfillment. (◕‿◕)

        by Mopshell on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 03:36:13 PM PDT

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        •  Mopshell (1+ / 0-)
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          It seems to me that the Koch brothers were the ones at the crossroads redirecting Republican policies down this current track.
          And the Koch bros are out of touch with reality libertarians , the GOP voters are going to get exactly what they deserve , surrounded by a bunch of bigoted ayn rand crazies

          Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

          by Patango on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 06:04:20 PM PDT

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  •  I once read a David Sedaris piece (14+ / 0-)

    where he quotes some official sounding stat "71% of people _____"  I don't even remember the exact thing, but the funny part was this was immediately followed by the informative "citation" of "(This statistic comes from me thinking of and writing down different numbers on a notepad until I got one that sounded kind of right)"

    I think this methodology has been picked up by more then a few GOP pollsters.

    The problem is that David Sedaris was trying (rather successfully) to be funny while the GOP is trying (epically unsuccessfully) to run the country.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 07:46:40 AM PDT

  •  I'm sure that all Republican women (16+ / 0-)

    are stridently opposed to being able to get health insurance while having preexisting conditions, and that they're opposed to their children being able to get health insurance. Yep.

    •  This white suburban woman ... (0+ / 0-)

      I did not vote for Mitt and I live in Michigan.  I know many other white suburban women that didn't vote for him either.

      I hate being lumped with all the hateful white voters.  I am not like them and never have been.

  •  The Caution is That Perhaps They're Polling Likely (16+ / 0-)

    MIDTERM women voters.

    Last midterm women swung significantly toward the Republicans, so the Republicans are building on a record of success.

    The good news for us is that beginning the minute after that midterm, the newly elected Republicans threw off their sheeps' clothing and began teabagging the ovaries out of their female consituencies. So hopefully this year there is a lot less inclination of women to swing right or for lefty women to sit out.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 08:04:36 AM PDT

  •  Oh they are so Skewed nt (7+ / 0-)

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 08:20:34 AM PDT

  •  I'm glad Republicans "talk to women" (13+ / 0-)

    But the Democrats listen to women.  I'm so very glad I'm now a Democrat.  George Waste Bush was the final straw for me.  As far as I'm concerned, all Republicans lie like rugs.

  •  If Republicans want women to vote for them (9+ / 0-)

    They need to stop treating us like shit.

    Simple.

    My dogs think I'm smart and pretty.

    by martydd on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 08:35:20 AM PDT

  •  Interested in questions & sample set (4+ / 0-)
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    I wonder if you were able to examine the mechanics of the poll it would become apparent as to how they arrived at the result. Obamacare will always be unpopular with those who are Obamaphobic. The Affordable Care Act however is doing far better,.

    Braily should tailor ads that show Ernst's policy stances would break the rural healthcare system and endanger great medical resources in Des Moines and Iowa City. Her poll numbers will sink.

    Also there are many insurance companies in Des Moines I think some top executives could be found who would tell about the positive effects of the new reform, also they might throw in there are no death panels.

    The past, present, and future are equally compelling; none of the three are easily understood.

    by Grey Panther on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 08:35:43 AM PDT

  •  Lets compare polls and see who's is bigger (2+ / 0-)
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    If you can't fix stupid does that mean the Republican party will always be broken?

    by gypsyrose on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 08:35:43 AM PDT

  •  That's a poll a mama grizzly would be proud of, (3+ / 0-)
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    you betcha.

  •  Look at all that pink (4+ / 0-)

    How could any woman not vote GOP with all that pink?

    No War but Class War

    by AoT on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 08:39:32 AM PDT

  •  PREIBUS: (6+ / 0-)

    "Go out and find me a poll that says women don't care about women's issues."

    Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

    by The Termite on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 08:39:54 AM PDT

  •  when you read the linked article (6+ / 0-)
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    some of the reasoning and strategy of the polling is revealed.  White, suburban women voters in what may be a limited number of states.   Which would explain the skew.   It would be informative as to how to get some better turnout and support for local races within predominantly red suburban districts.  But they were going to win in those districts in any event, weren't they?

    What we may be seeing is rearguard actions to save what they thought were safe districts.  If you are polling your most reliable group of voters and barely get over 50% on something you've sold hate on for four plus years, what that polling is telling you is that close to 50% of your 'women' voters might defect to the Democrat.

  •  Sometimes I wonder about polls (2+ / 0-)
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    I know that a lot of polls are not exactly on the up & up because of how they select who they poll.  If a polling agency polled predominantly poor, underprivileged minority women, they'd get one set of results that would be entirely different if they polled mostly middle-to-upper middle class white women.  

    It also depends on how a question is asked.  For example, if a question started with : "Many reports have shown that democrats are more "pro-women" than republicans.  Do you 1) strongly agree 2) agree 3) strongly disagree 4) disagree".......it would get a far different result than a question like: "Do you believe that democrats are more, less or equally favorable to women's issues than republicans?"  

    I know a fellow that worked with a firm that did polling on a national level and he confirmed that this is being done.

  •  caption (6+ / 0-)
    Other big Republican efforts to woo women include Sarah Palin's endorsement of Iowa Senate candidate Joni Ernst. Ernst trails Democrat Bruce Braley among women nonetheless.
    Joni Ernst voted for a "fetal personhood" amendment to the Iowa constitution that would make all forms of abortion illegal, even in cases of rape. The amendment would also make some common forms of birth control illegal and outlaws in vitro fertilization. Other Ernst positions are out of touch on issues that affect women more than men. She wants to privatize social security and she wants to end minimum wage laws. And women may not have been impressed with her TV ad where she points a gun in your face and takes aim at Obamacare -- a law that helps women and children more than men.
  •  Stupid is one of the few things in humanity (3+ / 0-)

    that is truly gender neutral, and the neocons are out to prove it.

    Liz Cheney, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachman, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter - the list of morons who happen to be female - is growing as long as the list of male jackasses. It doesn't surprise me that they're actively recruiting more of their kind... ignorance - like misery - loves company.

  •  Repubs are delusional (2+ / 0-)
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    let's face it, and it's not just some Repub pollsters, the delusion goes straight to the top and doesn't end until reality smacks them right in the face.  See: Rove and Romney, November 2012.  
    Even when confronted with reality, it's only temporary.  They're right back to their delusions after that.  
    It's another reason that nothing gets done in Congress now with Repubs controlling the House, you can't negotiate with delusional people living in an alternate reality.  

  •  everytime i see those signs I think of (4+ / 0-)
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    Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
    DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
    Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 09:03:13 AM PDT

  •  Swine Manure (2+ / 0-)
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    The whole GOP strategy consists of putting up a woman candidate and fooling some of the public into thinking that "hey, we're not that reactionary," women can't be part of a "war on women." Well to paraphrase the Gipper, "St. Ronnie," there they go again," using women to pretend they are not reactionaries. At least Iowa women are not being fooled by hog castrator Ernst and see that her anti-choice, anti-minimum wage platform is nothing but swine manure.  Ernst, Terri Land, Ayotte, McMorris Rodgers and all of the rest of the GOP female standard bearers may have XX chromosomes, but they think just like their white reactionary "Southern fried"male counterparts. Stu Rothenberg said it all. He stated the GOP would be foolish not to "use" Hoosier Cong. Susan Brooks, now a "Bullghazi" "investigator" and her many talents. "Use" is the operative word here. "Use" women as fronts to conceal the real radical right GOP platform. "The only poll that counts is the one on election day," to quote JFK's maternal grandfather. When women vote, we win in Colorado, Iowa, N. Carolina, and throughout the nation. Keep the Senate "Blue." Go Braley! For more on the Braley-Ernst donnybrook, read      

  •  If Jobs and household finances are important to (2+ / 0-)
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    them, they will never vote for the GOP, unless they are already making millions.

  •  Talk Is Cheap. Actions Speak Louder Than Words. (1+ / 0-)
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    The Republicans can schmooze women all they want, but this is one woman who looks at how the Republicans (as a party) vote on issues that are important to women. And as far as I am concerned, their actual record STINKS. Which is why I will NEVER vote for any Republican as long as that party continues to a. try to chip away at abortion and contraception rights (while indignantly claiming that they want the government to "get out of the way" when it comes to the rights of big business and gun owners), b. vote against bills (like the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act or increasing the minimum wage) that benefit working class women, and c. vote to cut programs that overwhelmingly help indigent and elderly women (like Food Stamps, Social Security, etc.).

  •  This is going to be a sight to behold (2+ / 0-)
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    Popcorn and sodee water on me the first round.

    A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny! Thomas Jefferson

    by wbishop3 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 12:05:13 PM PDT

  •  and the tundra tart (1+ / 0-)
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    smirking in her cheerleading costume.

    yep, that'll win them wimmens over (snort)

    "Please proceed, Governor"

    by portlandzoo on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 01:01:51 PM PDT

  •  go to the SHE site and read their canididate's (1+ / 0-)
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    statements. They all read alike:

    I will go to DC and :
    * fight Obama and Reid.
    * vote against Obamacare.
    * reduce government spending & taxes
    * fight for the unborn.
    * FIGHT LIBERALS

    Gee sound familiar. No new ideas. Looks like the old white guys wrote their agenda.

  •  maybe they should call themselves the (0+ / 0-)

    SHEWolves

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