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Yes, it is way too early to talk about 2016. But, since there have already been so many Hillary 2016 pro and con diaries posted and I have spent way too much time complaining about Hillary, I thought I would instead discuss why I am backing Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley.

Here's my brief list of why he is my choice for 2016:

1. He is acting like he's running. He's been going to Iowa and New Hampshire frequently in the past year or so. And he's already making an impression in Iowa. Also:

2. He has a long list of progressive accomplishments to run on. I don't care all that much about rhetoric. I am more interested in action. This is some of what O'Malley has done as Governor:

Passed DREAM Act
Signed Same-Sex Marriage Act and then campaigned extensively for voters to affirm SSM rights at ballot box
Repealed Death Penalty
Raised the Minimum Wage
Set-up offshore wind farm
Increased spending on education including expanding pre-K
Capped tuition at Maryland public univiersities
Increased Gun control measures
Minor Marijuana decriminalization

3. On the issues that matter to me most (education, immigration, voting rights, environment), his views align with my own and he isn't all talk:

Immigration:

He passed the DREAM Act in 2011 (now 36,000 undocumented immigrants have access to in-state tuition); the state gave driver’s licenses to tax-paying undocumented immigrants in 2013; and in April of this year, O’Malley informed the Department of Homeland Security that Maryland would no longer comply with the Secure Communities program that facilitates the deportation of undocumented immigrants.

Maryland has the lowest Hispanic unemployment rate at 5.1% (compared with 9.1% nationally)

“He’s very clearly the most pro-Latino and pro-immigrant governor in the country,” Torres said. “He believes we are all immigrants, for centuries we are immigrants. He calls us new Americans because he believes it is a really good way to describe the contribution of the immigrant community.”

4. He is working his ass off for 2014. He's been doing GOTV efforts in his home state of Maryland. He was just in Iowa campaigning for the Governor and Senate races and in Wisconsin. He understands the importance of party-building and is willing to take it to Republicans:
“When Pope Francis urged American Catholics to fight poverty, Congressman Ryan thought he said, ‘Fight the poor,’ ” O’Malley said, according to a copy of his prepared remarks to the Democratic Party of Wisconsin’s Founders Day Gala in Milwaukee.
5. He believes in progressive ideals as shown by his actions while in office and great speech in Iowa this past weekend.

Here are  some highlights from the speech:

A stronger middle class is not the consequence of economic growth -- it is the CAUSE of economic growth.

The proof is in the results
.Maryland is creating jobs at the second fast rate in our region – in fact, our state has created about 9,000 jobs in the past two months alone.

Not only do our people now earn the highest median income in the nation, but we're also rated one of the top states for UPWARD economic mobility.

But progress is also about creating a more just, more inclusive, and more secure future for our children.

With a belief in the dignity of work -- we expanded and protected collective bargaining rights.

We don't attack and belittle our teachers. We support them.

With a belief in the dignity of every child's full potential -- we passed the DREAM Act in Maryland.

And with a belief in the dignity of every human being -- we passed marriage equality in Maryland.

Together, we have driven crime down to 30-year lows in Maryland and we passed an important gun safety law that focuses on school safety, mental health reform, and stronger background checks for handgun purchases.

And because climate change is real, we've expanded renewable energy…, accelerated energy conservation…, and reduced greenhouse gas emissions.

Progress is a choice.

We do not move forward by chance.

Hope drives belief. Belief drives action. And action achieves results.

6. Sen. Tom Harkin is an O'Malley fan. Harkin is one of the few politicians whose opinions I care about. He's one of the people that made me start taking Howard Dean seriously. Here's what he said about O'Malley this past weekend:
Harkin described O’Malley as “a great progressive Democrat and someone we can look up to as we move forward in America.”
7. He has fundraising ability:
Meet the money: Has many bases covered as one of the party's top fundraisers. Raised more than $1 million for President Barack Obama's re-election campaign and in December ended his year as finance chairman for the Democratic Governors Association.
8. He's young (for a presidential nominee) and the future of this party.

On a less important note, the superficial nonsense that matters in presidential elections is in his favor as well. O'Malley has an interesting life story, he is hot, has an adorable family, he was made into a character on The Wire, etc. Yes, this is stupid stuff but it matters to the beltway media and casual voters.  

When I bring up O'Malley's potential as a presidential nominee, here are the criticisms I've heard and my defense of them:

1. His 2012 DNC speech was a dud. However, I've seen him give some great speeches and he's not the only person who has comeback from a bad DNC speech.

2. He had that one bad appearance on Meet the Press. He's had other great appearances on MTP. Not terribly worried about one bad appearance.

3. The Maryland Obamacare exchange rollout was a disaster. Yes, it was. But, by 2016 I think that will be a nothingburger. Maryland is moving to purchase Connecticut's Obamacare exchange that worked so well, is suing the contractor who built the Maryland exchange and has still enrolled over mm people in Obamacare.

4. He was part of DLC. Who cares? Look at his policy views and what he has accomplished. That's what matters.

5. He has no name recognition. It's 2014. It's too early to care. I am not worried about polling until fall of 2015 and even then only really care about the early primary/caucus state polling. We saw how fast polls can change from 2006 to 2008.

Any thoughts on Martin O'Malley as our Democratic nominee in 2016 even though it is way too early for this conversation?

Originally posted to askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM PDT.

Also republished by Maryland Kos.

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  •  Good on Issues, Not Inspiring (9+ / 0-)

    Has the right positions, but is not a leader or likely to inspire high turnout.  Would make a good cabinet member in a Dem administration.  But keep him away from health exchanges because that failed roll-out was a sign that he is not a hands-on manager or a details person.  Too bad in some ways as he is a good man and a progressive.  Luckily we have far more capable candidates.  Ones who have faced some tough environments, here and abroad.   Maryland is not a tough place to be a Dem governor.

    •  I think he is incredibly inspiring as did (9+ / 0-)

      many of the Iowa Dems who were interviewed after meeting with him or hearing him speak. He also got an enthusiastic standing ovation in Iowa this weekend after his speech.

      He is known for being a hands-on manager and a details person sometimes to a fault. Yes, the rollout of MD's website was bad but that is 1 mistake in a long history of public service. Maryland has thrived under his leadership yes it is hard to get progressive policies accomplished even in blue states. There is a long list of Dem governors who have failed to do that in blue states.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:45:52 AM PDT

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      •  Does he have the fight in him? (3+ / 0-)
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        amyzex, askew, Demi Moaned

        Needs to be able to fight back when attacked and he will be attacked for raising taxes among other issues.  Lacks any foreign policy experience.  Needs a signature issue such as the environment, which would get him greater recognition.   I think Sherrod Brown would make a much better candidate, if HRC does not run.  Winning is essential in 2016 for so many reasons, starting with the Supreme Court.  

        •  Yes, he has fight in him. (5+ / 0-)

          Look what he took on in Baltimore as Mayor and his time as Governor has not been without fight. He pushed through some really liberal items against the wishes of more conservative Dems and Republicans.

          When the major players on Latino and immigration issues considers him the most pro-Latino and pro-immigrant governor in the country, I'd say that is a signature issue.

          See I find Brown to be dull and all talk. He talks the great talk, but he's got nothing to show for it. Has he gotten anything done in the Senate? Brown is known because he gets so much screentime on MSNBC. O'Malley will get more press attention as the primary season starts.

          I think any of the major candidates - Hillary, O'Malley, Patrick, Brown, etc. can win in November. I really don't believe that any of them are significantly more electable than the others. And the GOP is running a clown car show.

          President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

          by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:18:47 AM PDT

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        •  I like Sherrod Brown. (1+ / 0-)
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          askew

          But he's far from inspiring. His positions are great but his charisma is so-so.

          Corporations, which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people, are fast becoming the people’s masters. -- President Grover Cleveland, 1888

          by edg on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:16:21 PM PDT

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        •  Even better, he has the restraint (3+ / 0-)
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          askew, Timaeus, Chi

          not to go off half-cocked. In the gubernatorial debates of 2006 the incumbent Republican did everything he could to get under his skin hoping to prod that Irish temper into action & make him look immature. MOM refused the bait & calmly took him apart.

          Note BTW that damned near every governor "lacks foreign policy experience"--& the national figures (mostly from Congress) that have it usually have a record of votes on national issues that they have to defend. Governors OTOH have executive experience that most Senators & Representatives lack.

          As for a "signature issue," what's wrong with standing up for the middle class? Seems to be working just fine for Elizabeth Warren.

          (Don't get me wrong, I like Warren & Sherrod Brown too.)

          The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

          by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 04:55:43 PM PDT

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    •  Well that's it, isn't it? (3+ / 0-)
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      askew, chicago minx, Catte Nappe

      The candidate needs to have some presence and the diary does not make a compelling case on that front. Anyone remember Michael Dukakis? I was in my early 30's then and didn't follow the process the way I do now, but I always wondered how we ended up with such a pallid candidate.

      "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

      by Demi Moaned on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:52:57 AM PDT

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    •  That will... (4+ / 0-)
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      askew, Gooserock, blueoasis, Timaeus

      make for a boring primary as Hillary is not inspiring either.

      "[I]n the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone...They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand."

      by cardboardurinal on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:00:20 AM PDT

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    •  Martin's speeches tend not to be barnburners (4+ / 0-)
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      askew, Timaeus, Chi, Alice Olson

      and maybe that's what folks mean by "uninspiring." (As for the Convention speech, note that a guy named Clinton got panned in exactly the same situation in 1988, & 4 years later was the nominee.)

      But meeting & greeting, he can be electric. I was in the audience at the victory party the night he won his first term as Mayor & I watched the way the crowd just surged toward him as he came up on stage & when he went to the front edge & bent down & reached for the hands that were reaching for him, it sent a shiver through me, it was so reminiscent of film of RFK campaigning...

      The people Martin meets seem to sustain him, but one of the things that's saddened me over the years is how the higher he aspires, the less time & opportunity he has to reach out to them--too much fundraising, too many speeches & debates & conferences. Goes with the territory but it makes me more than a bit nostalgic for the days we were knocking on doors in northeast Baltimore asking for votes one at a time...

      The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

      by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 04:45:02 PM PDT

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  •  HE will make a good Secretary of {something} (2+ / 0-)
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    askew, rb608

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:37:18 AM PDT

    •  Veep. (4+ / 0-)
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      rb608, askew, antooo, JamieG from Md

      "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

      by We Shall Overcome on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:47:12 AM PDT

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      •  Doubtful (3+ / 0-)
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        askew, FG, JamieG from Md

        Unless he really starts getting out in front of some issues or pulls impressive numbers in Iowa/NH.

        I don't think any candidate is going to be looking for an ace in the hole to make sure Maryland votes blue.

        Biden got on due to popularity numbers, foreign policy creds to shore up a perceived weakness in Obama and his ability to relate to Obama's worst demographic:  Working Middle Class Whites.

        Edwards got pulled in due to soaring popularity, his 2-Americas schtick, and to actually have one person on the ticket that other human beings could relate to.

        Lieberman got tapped partly for foreign policy but mainly because he was a very outspoken critic of Clinton's moral character during the Lewinsky/Impeachment process.  This allowed Gore to simultaneously claim credit for the positive things of the Clinton Administration while showing a clean break from the negatives.  Also, because his very public observant faith, although Jewish, would help deflect the GOP's attacks on traditional faith and values memes.

        O'Malley needs to bring more to the table them 2 terms as MD-GOV.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:00:11 AM PDT

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        •  And what did Bill Clinton bring to the table? (2+ / 0-)
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          askew, blueoasis

          Two terms as Governor of Arkansas? A lousy speech at the 1988 Democratic Convention? A shady reputation for the ladies?

          Give Dems credit, we can make our own choices

          •  Clinton wasn't recruited by a poltician (2+ / 0-)
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            JamieG from Md, Timaeus

            to round out a ticket.

            He took his case directly to the people and they liked what they heard.

            O'Malley is certainly free to do likewise but the topic at hand was his viability as a Vice Presidential pick which is inherently a decision based on political strategy.

            Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

            by Wisper on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:59:08 PM PDT

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  •  Who Cares? It's 2014 (3+ / 0-)
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    askew, mmacdDE, Gooserock

    He's good and has possibilities but ... Who Cares? It's 2014

  •  Looks the part, well spoken, soft spoken - could (12+ / 0-)

    he be a velvet hammer for the left? Could he be the champion of the Elizabeth Warren wing of the party, a toned down, more "consumer packaged" version that might be able to appeal to the middle and independents? I think his vanilla seeming personality could be interesting with a populist message. A softer sell.

    "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

    by We Shall Overcome on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:39:51 AM PDT

    •  This. I spoke with him last Saturday at an event (12+ / 0-)

      where he was campaigning for Jack Hatch our governor candidate. I liked that he put his progressive accomplishments (listed above) as what he was proud of. He finessed the party divide in an interesting way. How to make a case for one party over another without hammering on partisanship? By saying we need to move forward, not back. He emphasized problem solving and gave examples from his executive experience.

      Yes, Maryland is a very Democratic state. But it offers an interesting geographical advantage: it is south enough to feel south to southerners, and north enough to feel north for northerners. And omg the Maryland accent - I love it.

      On a personal and subtle note: when he talked with people, he listened to them, not scanning for the next important contact. He talked with me, who is not a major party player, with the same interest and focus he gave the honchos. When we were in a mixed group, he still gave the women in the group attention (usually women become invisible at that point).

      Finally, he asked me what I did. When I told him I had been a biochemistry professor at the university but now was an Episcopal priest, he lifted an eyebrow and said, "And respect the dignity of every human being?" That is from the Episcopalian baptismal covenant. I think he must have picked it up during the marriage equality fight. I notice it turns up in his other comments now.



      Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

      by Wee Mama on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:10:56 AM PDT

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      •  This piece is incredibly important in IA and NH: (10+ / 0-)
        On a personal and subtle note: when he talked with people, he listened to them, not scanning for the next important contact. He talked with me, who is not a major party player, with the same interest and focus he gave the honchos. When we were in a mixed group, he still gave the women in the group attention (usually women become invisible at that point).
        As a Minnesotan who wore an orange hat in 2004 while I campaigned all over Northern Iowa for Dean, that is really important.

        President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

        by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:20:46 AM PDT

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      •  Maybe I need a nap... (3+ / 0-)
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        askew, Wee Mama, Timaeus

        ...but how is "moving forward, not back" an interesting finesse of the partisanship divide issues? (Other than it's probably one of the most bipartisan stock political phrases)

        “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

        by Catte Nappe on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 01:41:57 PM PDT

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      •  Wonderful post. (2+ / 0-)
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        Wee Mama, askew

        Re the Maryland accent, I was raised in Maryland and certainly have it.

        About 25 years ago, I was at a small hotel in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and I went out looking for a towel.  The maid in the hallway gave me one, and then declared:  "You're from Maryland, am I not right?"

        Turns out she was a grad student studying comparative linguistics and picked up on my location from one short sentence!

        In my small law firm, we deal with people from all around the world, and I guess I'm probably better than most at picking up on foreign accents.  But I could never do that!

        •   I had a post-doc from Maryland - beautiful voice (2+ / 0-)
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          Timaeus, askew

          (and a beautiful heart - if you're reading this, hi, Bill!). I confess one aspect of Obama's election was having a presidential voice that was more engaging to listen to,

          The Maryland accent is one of the most beautiful American accents.



          Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

          by Wee Mama on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 07:57:12 PM PDT

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          •  Be glad Martin was raised in the DC 'burbs (2+ / 0-)
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            Wee Mama, askew

            & not the working-class neighborhoods of Greater Bawlmer, hon--a thick application of the local blue-collar patois makes even folks with genius-level IQs & advanced degrees sound like a doofus.

            (E.g., this may be the only place in the multiverse where you use your paramour to mow your lawn, & take the family downy ayshen for summer vacation.)

            I was raised by refugees from Appalachia, so it's not my native tongue, but growing up in Dundalk it was almost impossible not to acquire fluency in Bawlmerese--& that came in handy when I was politically active in the 70s & 80s, as you overhear a lot of interesting things when the speakers think you're too stupid to understand them. Hon. ;)

            The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

            by Uncle Cosmo on Fri Jun 27, 2014 at 07:39:10 AM PDT

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  •  While I WISH there would be more focus (15+ / 0-)

    on the midterms, with the Daily Diet of dueling Hillary diaries, I have no problem with you discussing someone else who might run.  The little I know about Governor O'Malley has left me with a positive impression. I've read comments alluding to his being bland and uncharismatic but that hasn't been my experience of him.

    I hope he runs: I like his record and I like how (when I've seen him) he doesn't fold and run to the Conventional Wisdom corner.

    •  Yep, I love his record. And he has taken some (4+ / 0-)

      tough stands and backed them up with action.

      I've never gotten the bland label with him either, but he has definitely upped his game since his 2012 DNC speech. His Iowa speech was incredible.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:47:50 AM PDT

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    •  Bland + populist policy might be the right mix (5+ / 0-)
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      askew, Wee Mama, Catte Nappe, Timaeus, MKSinSA

      ... if you're right on the policies that fire up the left but that scare off Wall St and big business types, maybe it's a positive to be a bland messenger. And, if those same populist policies (medicare for all, anti Wall St., pro worker) resonate with independents and some conservatives - maybe a bland white guy is better than Eliz Warren to try to reach those voters.

      Isn't there some overlap between Occupy Wall St and the Tea Party in that they both don't like bailing out Wall St? Maybe it's partly a matter of who is giving the message - a "dirty hippy" or a clean cut white guy.

      "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

      by We Shall Overcome on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 10:52:44 AM PDT

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      •  He signed the estate tax exemption (1+ / 0-)
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        JamieG from Md

        Raising the exemption of a 16% tax from $1 million to $4 million, a gift to the 1%.  Anthony Brown, hopefully our new governor, said he would have vetoed this.  This is a populist policy?

        "Corporations exist not for themselves, but for the people." Ida Tarbell 1908.

        by Navy Vet Terp on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 03:50:30 PM PDT

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        •  Just FTR, friend-- (0+ / 0-)

          a $4M estate does not put you in the 1%. Top 10% maybe, top 20% more like. That includes a lot of folks who worked hard at productive occupations & lived frugally for many years--& who are not the enemy.

          The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

          by Uncle Cosmo on Fri Jun 27, 2014 at 07:44:32 AM PDT

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    •  Bland might be a good thing. (4+ / 0-)
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      askew, Wee Mama, blueoasis, gramofsam1

      Hillary is so polarizing that it may well work to the detriment of the Democratic Party in 2016. A bland but competent president would be a good thing.

      Corporations, which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people, are fast becoming the people’s masters. -- President Grover Cleveland, 1888

      by edg on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:20:47 PM PDT

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  •  Great diary! (12+ / 0-)

    Informative and thought-provoking. I don't know much about O'Malley, but will look for news of him in the coming year.

    I agree that low name recognition is no big deal in 2014--how many knew much about Obama in 2006?

  •  I haven't taken a position on 2016 yet (3+ / 0-)
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    askew, 2laneIA, JamieG from Md

    however, just from a quick perusal of your diary history, it's clear you're a big Obama fan.  Which makes me wonder why you don't like Hillary Clinton since she and Obama are, on the issues, essentially clones.  Hillary's a little more hawkish on foreign policy, but on practically all domestic matters I have a hard time distinguishing between her and Obama.

    President Obama essentially enacted Hillary's 2008 health care reform plan, minus the public option.  On dealing with Wall Street, Obama took the advice of former Clinton Administration folks like Geithner and Summers; Hillary has said that we shouldn't be demonizing Wall Street, not different from Obama's approach.  Like Obama, Hillary has signaled that she is open to some kind of "Grand Bargain" to cut Social Security and Medicare benefits.  Hillary is now pro-gay marriage after "evolving", just like Obama.  In 2008 Hillary signaled she would pursue some kind of economic stimulus plan upon taking office, and I'm sure she would've done exactly what Obama did on that matter had she been president.  Like Obama, Hillary in 2008 proposed letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire.  And the list goes on and on.  Any other differences between the two are stylistic as far as I can tell.

    I guess I'm a little bit at a loss as to why there appears to be some resistance from Obama supporters to a Hillary Clinton candidacy since there is so little daylight between her and Obama.  In fact I would think they'd be the biggest Hillary fans out there since a Hillary Clinton presidency would for all intents and purposes be a 3rd Obama term since I can't discern what exactly she would do that would be a dramatic departure from what Obama would do.

    •  Point taken (4+ / 0-)
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      puakev, askew, Woody, blueoasis

      For some Obama supporters, (me, for instance), his Presidency has been one long disappointment, as I thought his policies would differ from Clinton's.  Not so much.  Now I still do not support Clinton, and I have long since lost faith in the President's intent to rule as he ran in 2008.

      •  I supported Obama in 2008 (3+ / 0-)
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        askew, 2laneIA, JamieG from Md

        and frankly I haven't been that disappointed in him for the simple fact that he's governed more or less as I expected him to.  I knew he was an incrementalist and pragmatist.  I never expected him to govern in bold strokes since, if you look at his proposed policies in 2008, he offered nothing of the sort.  His health care plan was more or less what he said it would be.  The Stimulus he signed was actually much bigger than the one he'd discussed in the campaign.  It took him a while, but he eventually did raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans though he had to compromise on the figure (Americans making more than $400K instead of $250K).  

        My main disappointments have been with immigration, climate change, and his plan for helping distressed homeowners.  He obviously did not press immigration in his first two years despite saying in 2008 that he would.  He also didn't address climate change aggressively until recently.  He also said he'd use TARP money to aggressively help distressed homeowners but the plan he put forth was pitiful in its execution and scale.

        Having said all that, going forward I would like a candidate who will govern more boldly, who will be more unapologetic and aggressive in pressing a more liberal approach to government, and who will provide a significant departure from Obama.  Not that I dislike Obama, but clearly his approach has been inadequate in really changing our country's trajectory.  His economic approach has not restored prosperity - most of the country still thinks we're in recession.  Obamacare is a great first step, but it hasn't reduced premiums for most Americans - mines are going up significantly (again) this year.  Inequality has gotten worse under his watch.  And perhaps most significantly, Obama has not restored peoples' faith in government's ability to solve our problems.

        Obama tried his best and did what he said he would do, but it's obviously not nearly enough.  Something bigger and bolder and different is required.  

        •  He has done things he said he would not do as well (3+ / 0-)
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          ...such as his efforts to cut Social Security, contra what he campaigned on.  

          He and Biden both were for-real constitutional law professors but we are still murdering people from the air in targeted killings where the victims might just be holding the wrong cell phone or in the wrong place.

          He has done Wall Street's bidding on a lot of fronts, from the appalling handling of the mortgage crisis and so-called settlement, to the efforts to get trade agreements drafted in secret that will be terrible for consumers and workers, to the education policy that amounts to a war on teachers for the benefit of the companies that want to siphon off education dollars for private profits.  While he wasn't pressing on immigration he was busy deporting record numbers of people and detaining them in conditions that are a national disgrace.  

          I am not open to the argument that he did the best he could for Americans generally.  He has done a fine job for our betters.

    •  I don't want to turn this into a Hillary bashing (9+ / 0-)

      diary as there are so many of those already. But, here is why I don't back Hillary:

      1. Character - I have a huge problem with the lies she tells on a frequent basis. That Bosnia Sniper lie was pretty much a permanent dis-qualifier for me because it was a lie a crazy person would tell and she told it with a straight face like it was no big deal.  In addition, she took credit for being a big part of FMLA and the Irish Peace Treaty while not being a major player in either bothers me immensely. I hate resume inflators and people who take credit for other people's hard work. Yes, all politicians do it but she does it so often I find it worrisome.

      2. Her Iraq vote. And no, Obama would not have voted for it if he was in the Senate IMO.

      3. Lack of serious accomplishments - I care less about how much time someone spent in a position than what they did while in that position. While Obama was in the Senate, he got 3 bills enacted in 3 years. Hillary was there for 8 years and got nothing done outside of naming post offices. She nibbled around the edges and that is it. I want someone who is going to get something done while President not just talk about getting stuff done.

      4.  Too much of a hawk on foreign policy. The largest differences between Obama and Hillary are on foreign policy and she's been wrong on all of them - Iraq, arming Syrians, etc. She ripped Obama for saying he'd meet with Iran without preconditions. He was right about that.

      5. She's the past of the Democratic Party. Let's build on the future. I want someone younger who understands the American public today.

      I really have a hard time with people acting like it is a done deal that Hillary would get everything done that Obama did as President. Obama had a record of bringing together coalitions to accomplish a goal. The one time Hillary really tried that was the healthcare debacle in the 1990s. And many Democratic insiders point the finger at her leadership style for being one of the major reasons it didn't get done.

      For me, Obama is by far the best president of my lifetime going back to Carter. Obama is a big believer in the Art of the Possible. I see that in O'Malley. O'Malley appears to be the closest to Obama on policy, style and effectiveness. He has a history of getting stuff done. I don't think we'll get flag burning amendments and school uniforms with O'Malley. I have no idea what Hillary could do if elected. She may be an amazing president. I've just seen nothing in her career that would convince me of that.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:14:05 AM PDT

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  •  No thanks. (3+ / 0-)
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    He is a dreadful speaker, and appears to be one of those Democrats who is right on social/ civil rights issues, while being wrong on economic policy, unless you are a a corporate CEO or a hedge fund manager.  

    If Maryland welcomes Cove Point and fracking on his watch, there is no chance I would support him in 2016. Howie Klein is underwhelmed by his leadership on inequality.

    Two of O’Malley’s establishment guardians, Senate President Mike Miller and House Speaker Mike Busch, have been force-feeding a $400 million estate tax giveaway through the easily controlled legislature, where the Democrats hold a 35 to 12 seat majority in the Senate and a 98 to 43 majority in the House of Delegates, where Mizeur serves. O'Malley's two legislative lieutenants claim this will keep more millionaires from moving away during retirement, despite the fact that Maryland already has the most millionaires per capita in the nation. In reality, this is nothing more than election-year pandering to the state’s wealthiest three percent.

    Right before the House easily passed the conservative legislation, Mizeur was the only legislator to stand up for the working and middle class, pointing out how the bill would take public funding from education and health care reform to pay for the handout. She then called on O’Malley to veto the legislation. But O’Malley was too busy running to the right of Hillary Clinton to give a straight answer. Same thing for his hand picked successor, Lieutenant Governor Anthony Brown, who instead gave a vague talking point about the need for comprehensive tax reform.

    But that’s not all. After years of waiting, O’Malley and Brown have finally taken up an increase in the minimum wage now that it will be fresh in voters’ minds. But after corporate interests were allied to rip out a provision to index the wage to inflation, it was Mizeur who stood up on the House floor to offer an amendment to put it back in place. How did the New Democrat-controlled House of Delegates-- much of which cosponsored the bill when it had the original indexing provision-- vote? They voted it down 124-8, claiming it would ruffle feathers in the Senate.

    •  Howie Klein also has a tendency to back candidates (1+ / 0-)
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      who don't have a snow ball's shot in Hell like Jay Stamper (D. SC).  I admit, I backed Stamper at first but then all the shady shit about his candidacy leaked out.  Klein has a good blog but is not always the most reliable source.

      Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

      by poopdogcomedy on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:35:27 AM PDT

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      •  Howie backs progressives (1+ / 0-)
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        Not all of them lose.  He does his homework on candidates, and I read what he has to say with interest.  I do not always agree with him, most recently on the primary for Bruce Braley's seat, but he explains where he is coming from, and he backs up his posts with external links.  If a candidate he endorsed turned out to have issues that no one knew about, you can hardly fault Howie for that.

        I particularly appreciate his efforts to call out corruption, malfeasance and stupidity in the Democratic Party.  Doing it for the Republican Party is the proverbial large fish in small barrel exercise.  I think we need to get our own house in order, and the corporate/DLC/ThirdWay/Wall Street wing of the party is where a good housecleaning would be helpful. These are the people who are trying to engineer a Grand Bargain to sell out Social Security to Wall Street, and who are trying to pass trade agreements that would make the original JP Morgan blush with their audacity and rapaciousness. I have seen no indication that O'Malley rejects their approach.

    •  He also backed John Hanger in the PA Dem Gov (1+ / 0-)
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      primary and Hanger's campaign's message was "Don't vote for Allyson Schwartz because she's too pro-choice and they'll run a racist campaign against her because of Kermit Gosnell."  Some of his attacks on Schwartz were legit and I am now happy Wolf is the nominee but Hanger's argument was pretty weak and even he had to move to the center when it came to marijuana.  He was for full legalization but when the polling showed the bigger support for medical marijuana but the support for full legalization wasn't there, he stuck with just medical marijuana.  And I like Hanger and I used to be a Schwartz supporter.

      Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

      by poopdogcomedy on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:39:26 AM PDT

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    •  Do you like President Obama? (1+ / 0-)
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      Do you know that under him, the Federal estate tax has become almost meaningless, with a $10,640,000 exemption for married couples?

      Corporations, which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people, are fast becoming the people’s masters. -- President Grover Cleveland, 1888

      by edg on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:24:55 PM PDT

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      •  What was the exemption in, say, 1975? How does (0+ / 0-)

        that exemption compare, when adjusted for inflation?

        I have a somewhat different perspective on estate taxes, because here in Iowa we value family farms. A farm estate may be almost entirely in the form of land and equipment. Without an exemption like this, many family farms would be broken up and turned over to developers. If there is a desire for  confiscatory estate taxes, there should at least be a farm exemption.



        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 04:08:00 PM PDT

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  •  Recc'd for laying out your case well. (2+ / 0-)
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    I disagree with it.

  •  As a Marylander, I'd definitely support him. (4+ / 0-)
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    Incidentally, I'm pleased with yesterday's primary results.

  •  Whether I back O'Malley (2+ / 0-)
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    more or less depends on who else is running.  If Sanders or Robert Reich runs, I'll be in their corner.  But O'Malley could wind up as the best non-Hillary available.

    The Stars and Bars and the red swastika banner are both offerings to the same barbaric god.

    by amyzex on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:11:58 AM PDT

  •  I like him but #3 is more of a problem... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...than you might imagine.  He had everything in his favor and it still was a disaster, so he's vulnerable.

    It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

    by Rich in PA on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:18:54 AM PDT

  •  I don't know a whole lot about him (1+ / 0-)
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    except I remember watching his 2012 DNC speech.  I was less than thrilled.  He seemed to me to have an air of genericness to him, sort of a cardboard cutout in the same sense as Tim Pawlenty.

    I will freely admit that I may be jumping to conclusions, but maybe a "first impressions" post could still be valuable somehow.

  •  I like him but he's a policy wonk first and (2+ / 0-)
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    foremost. Good for governing, not that great for campaigning. Otherwise, a more or less typical liberal Dem from a blue state. Hard to say what his views on foreign policy are.

  •  I do like him. O'Mallye and Warren that works (2+ / 0-)
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    for me though both are East Coasters

    "The poor can never be made to suffer enough." Jimmy Breslin

    by merrywidow on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:32:37 AM PDT

  •  I don't think it's too early to be thinking about (3+ / 0-)
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    2016.  I've been thinking about the 2016 U.S. Senate race in my home state of Pennsylvania where Joe Sestak (D. PA) is already getting ready to take on Tea Party Senator Pat Toomey (R. PA) in an epic rematch.  Right now I am focused on the Senate, the Governor races and a few congressional seats but I like O'Malley and I want him to make Hillary fight for the nomination.

    Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

    by poopdogcomedy on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:32:39 AM PDT

  •  He's the most attractive possibility (5+ / 0-)

    I've seen so far.

    For those who think that he lacks charisma, well, he's no Barack Obama in giving inspirational speeches, but he's much better than either Hillary or Joe.

    His speech at the 2012 Convention:

    Maya Angelou: “There's a world of difference between truth and facts. Facts can obscure truth.”

    by JoanMar on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:33:48 AM PDT

    •  Some people consider this speech to be (4+ / 0-)
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      a bore and a sign he's unelectable. I thought it was a great speech with an underwhelming delivery. I'd still put it in the top 6 of the speeches from the DNC in 2012.

      I think his speech in Iowa this past weekend shows that he has grown as a speaker.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:43:16 AM PDT

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      •  IIRC, didn't he come after some firebrand speaker? (3+ / 0-)
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        Something akin to asking Hillary to speak after a 2008 Obama?
        I thought he did the best he could.
        (can't recall who spoke before him)

        Maya Angelou: “There's a world of difference between truth and facts. Facts can obscure truth.”

        by JoanMar on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:50:31 AM PDT

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      •  Perhaps it was deliberate. (2+ / 0-)
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        A way to not take focus away from the nominee. I mean, look at Clint Eastwood at the Republican Convention. The focus on his talking chair took all the wind out of Romney's sails.

        Corporations, which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people, are fast becoming the people’s masters. -- President Grover Cleveland, 1888

        by edg on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:27:39 PM PDT

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  •  He's been the candidate I enjoyed (2+ / 0-)
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    Listening to speak on the issues more than almost any other than I think actually will attempt to run.

    I don't know if he has the infrastructure to get there, but he is a very fluid speaker to hits all of the issues head on - and he has that folksy demeanor when he needs it.

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle
    Follow @tmservo433

    by Chris Reeves on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 11:39:17 AM PDT

  •  Maybe in 2024. (2+ / 0-)
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    He's only 51, and would turn 62 two days before a 2024 inauguration.

  •  I like him but don't think he can win (4+ / 0-)

    he's not even popular in a state as dark blue as Maryland despite the state doing very well comparatively. That alone raises a big red flag, especially when the media will fall over themselves to declare him as some far lefty because he actually pushes a liberal agenda. If the environment were like 2008 I'd say go for it, but in 2016 I really just want to win when the deck will be stacked against us and the Republican nominee will be even more to the far right than Romney.

    •  I think it is too early to talk about electability (0+ / 0-)

      I think very few people thought that Obama was electable in 2006.

      And I am not sure the environment in 2016 is going to be all that toxic to us. It will depend if the economy continues to slowly recover or if it dips again.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:04:44 PM PDT

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    •  He took a hit for increasing the gas tax. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      Corporations, which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people, are fast becoming the people’s masters. -- President Grover Cleveland, 1888

      by edg on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:30:44 PM PDT

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    •  Maryland is NOT a "dark blue" state (0+ / 0-)

      Baltimore City, Montgomery & PG Counties, yes. Outward from there the blue bleeds rapidly to purple & then to bright red at the extremities, particularly the Eastern Shore, whose Congresscritter is one of the worst teabagging POSs in the entire House.

      The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

      by Uncle Cosmo on Fri Jun 27, 2014 at 07:52:08 AM PDT

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  •  I like him a lot! (3+ / 0-)
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    One more to add to the list of possibles, and he's definitely on my personal list of hopefuls, too!

    Thanks askew!  

    I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

    by KayCeSF on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:50:51 PM PDT

  •  I like him and I think it's the exact right time (2+ / 0-)
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    for your diary. Never too early to start building enthusiasm.

  •  I don't think it's too early (4+ / 0-)
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    I welcome closer looks at our Democratic presidential bench. I want to know who we have out there as possibilities.

    Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

    by elfling on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 01:18:50 PM PDT

  •  If HRC runs, MOM might have a problem (4+ / 0-)
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    The Clintons came through for him in a big way in 2006, & Martin isn't the kind of guy who forgets that sort of thing. Perhaps more to the point, one wonders how much of the financial backing he might be able to tap for a national run came to him via them, & would be committed to Hillary.

    Martin had a similar problem in 2002 when in his first term as Mayor of Baltimore, he was contemplating a run for MD-GOV. Major Democratic fund-raisers lined up behind then-Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, with the strong suggestion that O'Malley was a young man in too much of a hurry, and a whiff of suspicion that he'd be blackballed permanently in national politics if he challenged her. (NB I have no links, so don't bother asking--it was something conjectured in some circles at the time.)

    If the heavy-hitters of Democratic campaign finance suggest to O'Malley that he stand aside for Hillary ("You're still young, you have plenty of time, it's her turn," yadda yadda) & threaten to dry up his funding, it's really gonna raise the hackles on his supporters. Martin would've mopped the floor with KKT in 2002 & spared Marylanders what was arguably the most inept statewide campaign ever run by a Democrat & the ensuing 4 years of Rethug Bob Ehrlich in the Governor's Mansion; what's going to happen if he stands aside again?

    The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

    by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 01:54:48 PM PDT

    •  He isn't going to pass on the presidency (0+ / 0-)

      because the Clintons fundraised for him in 2006.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 02:11:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Um, I didn't say that (5+ / 0-)

        Fact is, I'm not sure how much of that help was with fundraising. I know both of them came into MD & made appearances with him, & he was suitably appreciative.

        If a significant fraction of the people he'd be counting on to stake him to a national run--or for that matter, to do the groundwork for organizing this far out--are committed first & foremost to Hillary, he may have a problem.

        IMO Martin is too adept at running for office not to have built, by now, more than the rudiments of a national organization and fundraising network that's independent of any other possible candidate. But that's JMO. If instead he found the major players already locked up, then he might need to hang back & wait for candidates to flame out, then swoop in to scoop up the wreckage--or content himself with the Vice Presidency or a Cabinet post.

        The bumpersticker I want: THE LEFT IS RIGHT! THE RIGHT IS WRONG! THE FAR RIGHT IS FAR WRONG!

        by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 02:55:59 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Um, Uncle Cosmo has a great point there. (1+ / 0-)
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        I think he might.  He's playing long-term chess, not just checkers.

        But I hope not.

        I suspect Hillary is going to be unable to sustain a campaign, for one reason or another.

  •  The ticket should be: O'Malley-Warren, (1+ / 0-)
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    which wins by a landslide!

    And I'd just as enthusiastically go for the opposite!

    •  I'd love a O'Malley-Warren ticket. (0+ / 0-)

      I think if O'Malley gets the nod, the VP pick will have to be a woman. That leaves Klobuchar, McCaskill, Gillibrand, Hagan or Warren really. And Warren is the standout of that list, but that would make Warren pretty powerless. She'd be better in the Senate.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 09:33:09 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The exchange is not a nothingburger (0+ / 0-)

    It was a complete management disaster over 200 million dollars of taxpayer money was wasted and probably even more. The Republicans will not let voters forget it will be the focus of every ad along with the taxes he passed.

    •  And the voters will shrug. No one is going to (0+ / 0-)

      care that the website rollout was bad when so many people are successfully enrolled by 2016 especially if the website is fixed by the next enrollment period. And we don't know if they will be successful in their fraud case against the contractor or not.

      And polling shows that the public backs increased taxes on the wealthy. I don't think raising taxes is that big of a deal any longer.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 03:32:01 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thank you. (0+ / 0-)

    I like diaries that lay out new candidates for me to consider.  I like that you laid out his record and where he stands on certain things.

    We need to have more of these rather than the non stop Hiliary rox/sux diaries.

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