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One of the half-dozen licensed Texas abortion clinics that may remain open after September 1.
Molly Redden at Mother Jones reports that a draconian year-old law enacted specifically to shut down as many Texas abortion clinics as possible is having the desired effect. A year ago this month when Republican Gov. Rick Perry signed the law, there were 40 licensed abortion clinics across the state. Now there are 21. Come September 1, when a clause requiring clinics to meet the same standards as ambulatory surgical centers goes into effect, the number could drop to six:
The first wave of clinics closed or stopped providing abortions due to a provision of the law that came into force in November 2013 and required abortion providers to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles. [...]

Some things to note: Before the state required admitting privileges, 13 cities had abortion clinics. Now, just seven do. After September, only five Texas cities—Dallas, Forth Worth, San Antonio, Austin, and Houston—will will have abortion clinics. Women in the Rio Grande Valley must now travel to Corpus Christi, a two-and-a-half hour drive, for abortion services. Soon, there won't be a single clinic providing abortions west of San Antonio.

In addition to making it harder for abortion providers to operate, the law also bans abortion 20 weeks after conception and forbids the use of medication to terminate pregnancies. At the time of its passage, anti-abortion lawmakers claimed that tougher requirements for abortion providers were necessary to safeguard women. But mainstream medical groups, such as the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, argue that requiring admitting privileges doesn't increase the level of care.

The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the law in April and foes are seeking a ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court. Texas isn't the only place where these new TRAP laws, Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers, have been passed. Since 2011, legislatures in 30 mostly Republican-controlled states have passed more than 200 abortion restrictions, about equal to the total for the previous decade. In January 2013, according to Michael Keller and Allison Yarrow, there were 724 abortion clinics still in operation. A two-thirds drop from the 2,176 licensed clinics in 1991. Now, the total number, according to various sources, has dropped below 600.

Those 30 states have made it tougher and more expensive for women seeking to end their pregnancies not only by passing the TRAP laws but by requiring women to wait 24 hours or longer after making an appointment for an abortion, requiring ultrasounds, mandating face-to-face "counseling" (often by people who oppose the procedure and lie about its physical and psychological impacts) or the reading of brochures written by abortion foes. All this often means personal and financial hardship.

The class-warfare aspect of the forced-birthers' assault is a key element of their strategy. Affluent women will, of course, always find a way to obtain an abortion. The impact of the abortion-curtailing laws—from medically unneeded procedures like ultrasounds to medically unneeded specifications for clinic design to medically unneeded requirements like hospital admitting permissions for abortion providers—falls hardest on the less well-to-do, the rural and poor. Add in bans on abortion coverage by private health insurance providers and by the new health-insurance exchanges mandated under Obamacare and that class warfare is heightened.

None of these new laws make abortions safer. None of them protect women from bad doctors. None of them have anything to do with women's health. They are all about control.

Originally posted to Meteor Blades on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 11:12 AM PDT.

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  •  Will it motivate young people to go Blue ? (10+ / 0-)

    Will this bassackward step have an upside in future elections ?

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    by indycam on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 11:28:42 AM PDT

    •  It will (7+ / 0-)

      Most millennials are social liberals.

      Millennials aren’t liberals; they are social liberals and fiscal centrists. And it’s largely social issues driving the distance between millennials and Republicans.

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      by Shockwave on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 01:03:24 PM PDT

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    •  That depends entirely... (8+ / 0-)

      ...on if Democratic candidates stand up and make a forceful defense of equal health care rights and access for all.

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      by The Technomancer on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 01:04:46 PM PDT

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    •  not really (1+ / 0-)
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      The people who live in the big cities, the places Obama basically won and are generally represented by democrats, still have services.

      Living outside the big cities in Texas has always been tricky if you wanted services.  It is more expensive unless you have land and can live somewhat of said land.  There is a great deal of subsidies from the city, i.e. telephone, hospitals, but there are still issues.  I once waited over two hours for the albulance and coroner to come to take a body away.

      But the many conservatives seem to like it, and as long as the city folks help pay for their life style, I guess they will continue.

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      by lowt on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 03:47:50 PM PDT

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      •  lights from the co-op (REA) in Texas (1+ / 0-)
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        farm under my feet (not a ranch though it was 20 times more land than "President Reagan's Ranch"), well water (until the oilfield "thumping" tests caved in the well below the casing) and a phone company that made anything outside the county long distance.

        West Texas in the 1970s.

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        by BlackSheep1 on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 06:19:47 PM PDT

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  •  making poorer people poorer, barefoot and..... (21+ / 0-)
    None of these new laws make abortions safer. None of them protect women from bad doctors. None of them have anything to do with women's health. They are all about control.

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    by annieli on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 11:34:03 AM PDT

  •  I wonder who owns the six (6+ / 0-)
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    and if they are getting ready to expand for the business ?

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    by indycam on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 11:42:11 AM PDT

  •  Ok please dont flame me or get pissed, I honest... (4+ / 0-)
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    Ok please dont flame me or get pissed, I honestly know just about nothing about abortions so I ask this in complete ignorance.

    Shouldn't a place performing a surgical procedure, which I believe abortions are unless im wrong, meet the same standards as any other out patient surgical center?

    I understand that the purpose of these laws is to eliminate abortions, but sometimes the laws make sense in the abstract.

    I wouldn't want any person in my family having any procedure done in an unregulated and possibly unsafe clinic. After what happened in Pennsylvania with Goznell im surprised all states, both red and blue havent stepped up inspections of clinics. I hate when politics takes precedent over safety.

    •  I suggest you learn more about early term (23+ / 0-)

      abortion procedures.

      Unregulated and unsafe is what people will turn to when there are no longer safe, clean, appropriate clinics staffed by legitimate doctors widely available.  The "over-requirements" for abortion clinics, closing down nearly all clinics, will result in more self-abortion attempts, and more dangerous practioners who have no idea what they are doing.

      Safety is what we had.  Making it worse is what these intentionally restrictive laws do.

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      by YucatanMan on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 11:57:37 AM PDT

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    •  To answer at least this question (19+ / 0-)
      Shouldn't a place performing a surgical procedure, which I believe abortions are unless im wrong, meet the same standards as any other out patient surgical center?
      No.

      I'm not a surgeon, but I can say from experience that not all surgeries require the same level of facilities.  Putting a few stitches in a laceration is not the same as open heart surgery.  Having wisdom teeth extracted is not the same as a kidney transplant.

      The factors influencing the comprehensiveness of facilities are dependent on the invasiveness of the procedure, the risks of infection, and the potential complications among others.  I cannot speak to where a surgical abortion lands on that scale; but I'm perfectly willing to accept the opinion of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists on this one.

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      by rb608 on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:03:50 PM PDT

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    •  I had an early term abortion that was done in (22+ / 0-)

      an exam room at a clinic that was no different from the exam room at my GYN's office. The procedure did not involve scalpels, knives or anesthetics. It was quick, easy and painless.

      To this day, 38 years later, I don't understand why it could not have been done in my own GYN's office.

    •  Early term abortions are pretty minor surgeries. (18+ / 0-)

      They don't even require incisions.  Indeed, many women have essentially the same procedure to remove uterine polyps.

      A lot of these laws require things like doctors to have admitting privileges to local hospitals.  The hospitals, being owned by "Catholic" corporations or other religious organizations, refuse to grant them privileges for theological reasons... but some also refuse to grant admitting privileges because the doctors who perform the abortions admit too few patients.

      That's right -- the procedures are so safe that there are simply "too few" cases with complications for the hospitals to give the doctors admitting privileges.

      And, of course, in the case of serious complications, doctors will transfer patients to hospitals.  It's not like this can't happen if they don't have admitting privileges, it's just a bit more paperwork and hassle.

      Others of these regulations involve things like how wide the hallways are.  How does this impact the safety of the patients?

      You might say, well, why not get an office with wider hallways?  Lots of landlords aren't willing to rent to abortion providers.  Even if they themselves aren't anti-choice, they risk anti-choicer harassment and violence if they rent to clinics.  Same with contractors and builders.  They may well say, "Look, I'd like to work with you, but these people are threatening my family."

      It's about driving clinics out of business, not making them safer for patients.

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      by cai on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:39:52 PM PDT

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      •  Yep. Here is my piece on the Mississippi... (9+ / 0-)

        ...doctor whose admitting privileges with an abortion clinic kept him off the state's health board:

        In a state with a black population of 37 percent, the 11-member health board has one African American member. It would have had two if Republican Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves hadn't kept the nomination of OB/GYN Dr. Carl Reddix from reaching the Senate Health Committee for confirmation last April. Then-Gov. Haley Barbour, also a Republican, had appointed Reddix to fill an unexpected vacancy on the board in the summer of 2011. Reddix served in that post until Reeves's action got him removed 10 months later.

        Reddix was ousted because he had agreed over a decade to provide emergency services to the state's only remaining abortion clinic, the Jackson Women's Health Organization. Reeves's spokewoman said at the time "he felt that [Reddix's] association with the abortion clinic was not appropriate in a role that would shape health policy for the state." Reeves said he wanted a qualified physician instead.

        Reddix, born in the Mississippi coastal city of Biloxi 54 years ago, graduated from Tougaloo College, then earned degrees from Tufts University School of Medicine and Harvard University. He completed his residency at Johns Hopkins Hospital. Clearly short in the qualifications department. His role for the clinic was straightforward. He didn't ever provide an abortion, but he was ready to provide emergency help if something went medically wrong. He says he was called upon only a couple of times to do so in all the years he agreed to help if the need arose.

        The real problem with Reddix was that he had "admitting privileges" at a local hospital. The legislature last year passed a law that requires abortion clinics to hire only those physicians with hospital admitting privileges, a medically unnecessary practice, as a means by which to close the state's last remaining abortion clinic. North Dakota Gov. Jack Dalrymple just signed a similar law designed to close that state's last abortion clinic in Fargo.

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        by Meteor Blades on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:56:31 PM PDT

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    •  We agree on one thing for sure (10+ / 0-)

      politics is taking precedent over safety. The Republicans are actually forcing women to seek the health care (that they are legally entitled to receive) in unsafe and sketchy places. Rachel Maddow did a piece a few month's back about what's happening in south Texas - it was awful. I am sickened.

    •  Those standards are already met ... (8+ / 0-)

      and generally vastly exceeded. Abortion clinics are usually the safest clinics one could possibly go to.

      Standards enforcement at abortion clinics is incredibly tight. Mess up the size of a q-tip and the anti-abortioners will have regulators in the clinic within an hour.

    •  No. I can't remember right now which state it w... (9+ / 0-)

      No.

      I can't remember right now which state it was (there are so many) that required doctors to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.

      The doctors were denied admitting privileges. Why? Not because of any opposition to abortion but simply because the doctors in question would not - could not - admit the bare number of patients required for admitting privileges.

      That's how safe this procedure is (far safer than childbirth). These regulations are purely a means to shut down clinics. Please don't buy into the fiction that the players in question are simply trying "to protect women's lives". Nothing could be further from the truth.

    •  Nobody wants to sanction dirty or unsafe clinics (1+ / 0-)
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      but the unnecessary regulations being pushed allegedly in the name of safety are cynical and unnecessary in the extreme.  

      What's REALLY unsafe are back-alley abortions for women who don't have the resources to travel hundreds of miles and stay several days.  

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      by lgmcp on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 02:06:54 PM PDT

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    •  this is exactly why they are getting away with it. (0+ / 0-)

      Average person thinks like you and lawmakers take advantage. At least you asked even though you were in fact led astray somewhat already, seems to me.

      In additon to how simple a procedure most abortions are, there seems to be a misunderstanding of how much admitting privileges would be necessary. In any state, if a medical emergency happens in a doctor's office or anywhere, people call an ambulance, it takes you to an ER, and you are treated. That is what happens in abortion clinics everywhere in the rare event that there is an emergency. Anti choice lawmakers dupe the public into thinking that without a doctor with admitting privileges, abortion patients with emergency complications can't get emergency care in a hospital. Even a Catholic hospital would not turn away someone who is profusely bleeding or is having a life threatening reaction to sedation (both rare).

      One thing...why assume as you seem to that there very well may be no oversight and no rules abortion clinics must follow just because they haven't up to now had to meet the surgical center rules? You do in fact go all the way to "unregulated and possibly unsafe". Think about it.  There are hundreds or more abortion clinics in the US, and many in blue states. Since we see red states adopting surgical center standards for abortion clinics only now, we can deduce that states have never seen that standard as necessary before. Wouldn't it seem doubtful that, say, the abortion clinics in MA may be unsafe and not regulated (by other sets of rules and standards) just because they don't have surgical center standards? That is another way these people dupe people like yourself- sometimes act as if there aren't already rules and regulations clinics must follow. I guess they know somehow some people would assume this.

      Dentists who sedate people and extract wisdom teeth in hour long procedures are regulated as well. No one talks about them having to meet the standards of surgical centers with a sterile OR environment. Most abortions take 5 min. They do not cut into tissue...

      (disclosure:worked as medical assistant to abortion doctors in clinics for 10 years)

  •  This is what I don't get: (14+ / 0-)
    The class-warfare aspects of the forced-birthers' assault is a key element of their strategy. Affluent women will, of course, always find a way to obtain an abortion. The impact of the abortion-curtailing laws—from medically unneeded procedures like ultrasounds to medically unneeded specifications for clinic design to medically unneeded requirements like hospital admitting permissions for abortion providers—falls hardest on the less well-to-do, the rural and poor. Add in bans on abortion coverage by private health insurance providers and by the new health-insurance exchanges mandated under Obamacare and that class warfare is heightened.
    I thought people like Perry's brand of GOP folks don't like poor people or people of color--especially poor Tejanos and immigrants. Wouldn't they encourage them to practice birth control and have abortions?

    I suppose it's their "Christianity" at work here, though you'd hardly know it from the way they treat these babies after they are born.

    If I held Perry's or Brewer's or any of these folks professed views on immigration, the poor, and minorities, I'd make sure there was free, comprehensive family planning--including abortion services--available in every neighborhood.

    The cognitive dissonance here is really abrasive.

    BTW, I do NOT hold their views and am neither in favor of eugenics nor do I hold their views. On ANYTHING.

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    by commonmass on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 11:46:38 AM PDT

  •  The only way to fight back and end this (12+ / 0-)

    ridiculous war is to treat abortion like any other medical procedure.  Why can't any OB/GYN preform abortions?

    Why are we forcing women into clinics that put them at risk? At risk, not from the procedure, but from those who don't want them to have the procedure?

    I have never understood the reluctance of the medical profession to treat an abortion the way they would treat any other legal medical procedure.

    •  Abortion procedures aren't taught as most... (16+ / 0-)

      ...medical schools anymore, another fruit of the forced-birther movement.

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      by Meteor Blades on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:08:27 PM PDT

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      •  Wow. (13+ / 0-)

        I took a look at a report from the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

        Abortion is one of the most common health services performed in the United States and is an integral component of women's reproductive health services. In 2005, 1.2 million abortions were performed (1). Approximately 50% of women in the United States will experience an unintended pregnancy by age 45 years, and based on current abortion rates, nearly one in three women will have an abortion by age 45 years (2). Since 1973 when the U.S. Supreme Court recognized the constitutional right to abortion in Roe v. Wade, morbidity and mortality from the performance of unsafe abortion have decreased dramatically. Abortion-related deaths decreased from 40 per million live births in 1970 to eight per million live births in 1976 (3). Although the majority of terminations are performed with aspiration, medication abortion has provided an alternative for women seeking first trimester termination (up to 63 days) of pregnancy since 2000, when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved mifepristone and misoprostol (4). In 2005, early medication abortion accounted for 13% of abortions.

        Public health efforts have focused on reducing the frequency of unintended pregnancy, but the demand for abortion continues. The availability of abortion services is in jeopardy because of restricted access to the procedure and to limited training of physicians during residency.

        And that report was dated January, 2009.
      •  can't ob/gyn's learn it on their own if they (4+ / 0-)
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        want to serve women's health?

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        by UnaSpenser on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:43:17 PM PDT

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        •  Yes, but any ob/gyn doing so (5+ / 0-)
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          would be instantly tagged by the forced birthers and subjected to the usual barrage of harassment.

          •  How would they know? Especially if all GYNs (3+ / 0-)
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            were doing it?

            Why should it be stigmatized and moved into specialty clinics? It is NOT a specialized procedure.

            •  There are plenty of underhanded ways to find out. (4+ / 0-)
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              Just offhand:
              - training facilities would have to advertise. So, hang around outside with a camera.
              - have RW ob/gyns sign up, then identify other attendees and especially trainers.

              The forced birthers are experts in underhanded methods of find out what doctors are doing. And in a lot of states there are plenty of officials that'll help them out.

              Absolutely it shouldn't be stigmatized, but then the RW is all about stigmatizing things that should be just plain accepted. Name an attitude they have. Anti-gay rights: stigmatization.  Being on food stamps: stigmatization. Unemployed=lazy: stigmatization.

              Yes, if all Gyns were doing it there would be protection in numbers. Unfortunately the road to there, from where we are now, is blocked by the loonies.

            •  What happens when they do find out? (1+ / 0-)
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              What happens when they do find out?

              And someone shoots up or blows up the doctor's office because they don't have the security the abortion clinics need?

              Or even just have the protesters show up and scare the non-abortion patients away.

              Not to mention that these regulations require any place that performs abortions to meet these standards. The vast majority of ob/gyn offices won't.

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              by thejeff on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 01:28:05 PM PDT

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        •  Especially when you consider that most early (2+ / 0-)
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          term abortions are done via aspiration, which is a simple procedure (feminists used to show women's groups how to perform on their own) that is used for other conditions as well.

        •  No. It's part of board exams / licensure (0+ / 0-)

          and must be taught in an approved curriculum.

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          by BlackSheep1 on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 06:25:16 PM PDT

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          •  being a skilled abortionist (0+ / 0-)

            would come with repetative hands on experience I surmise few get. They don't do rotations in abortion clinics and my guess is they don't get enough repetition in hospital training.

            An abortion does require added skill beyond a D &C.

            In the clinic I worked in the few younger less experienced docs we had had a much higher complication rate than our regular doctors. . Not emergency complications...don't want to give TMI.

        •  it requires too much effort for most of them (1+ / 0-)
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          to seek out a mentor to teach them. They have little to gain financially -and for many, little to gain in any way-and much risk, so few make the effort.

          Have had and overheard conversations with and between abortion doctors about this issue.

      •  There is now no program to teach it at (1+ / 0-)
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        a major state university medical school in Texas. I don't know if Baylor's med school teaches it or not. I know TTU and UT and A&M do not.
        Ironically A&M's veterinary program teaches how to manage it in large animals (e.g. cattle, horses, etc.).

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        by BlackSheep1 on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 06:24:20 PM PDT

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  •  I wonder if right-wingers will be so happy when (20+ / 0-)

    fetuses die (along with their post-born mandated incubators) when women try self-induced abortions again?  I suppose their focus will be on the poor "baby" and not so much on the adult.  

    I'm old enough to remember the deaths due to self-induced abortion when abortion was illegal.  Or the deaths caused by "back alley abortionists."  I was working in a large urban hospital.  It wasn't unusual for several young (and sometimes not-so-young) girls and women to come in to the ER bleeding heavily after they tried to induce an abortion.  

    Some had to have surgery to control the bleeding and prevent their deaths. Sometimes, that resulted in sterility.  Sometimes, the surgery came too late, and these young ladies died as we pumped blood into them.  I remember one girl in the ER.  She was on an exam table and had a sheet covering her lap.  The sheet dipped down between her thighs and turned bright red.  She had put out a puddle of blood between her legs as they readied an OR for her.  

    Some developed infections, bad infections.  Back then there weren't many antibiotics to use.  Some women died from the infections.  At times, the infections caused these women's deaths.  One young girl came in.  She had attempted to terminate her pregnancy, using some pointed object.  She got infected.  By the time she decided to come to the ER, the infection was out of control.  She was started on antibiotics and sent to the floor.  That was in the evening.  The next day, I got called to that floor to see another patient.  I decided to stop in to see the young girl with the infection.  The bed had been "terminaled" - it had been cleaned and readied for another patient.  The teenager we had admitted the night before had died.  The antibiotics had been too little too late.

    Both these women were, if memory serves, under 18.  They were not alone. There were lots of others.  Many survived, but had psychological scars.  Some had both physical and psychological scars.  Some didn't live long enough to develop any scars at all.

    As the number of places and practitioners of safe abortions decline, I can imagine that we'll start to see an upswing in women, mostly women of limited means, who will die because of this.  And those families who can afford it will send their pregnant daughters off to have abortions elsewhere (safely, privately, secretly) as they complain about the  underprivileged maternal incubators who have the audacity to want to terminate their pregnancies.

    A word to the wise is sufficient. Republicans need at least a paragraph.

    by d3clark on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 11:50:06 AM PDT

    •  I don't think any of this is about the fetuses. (15+ / 0-)

      I think it is all about asserting control and keeping women in their place.

      If fetuses die, it will all be the fault of sinful women. They'll probably make sure that they'll be criminalized and locked up. Because it is OK for Republican men to have all the sex they like, but not for any women to enjoy sex.

      They really are that backward.

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      by YucatanMan on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:00:43 PM PDT

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    •  The terrible "good" old days the GOP longs (14+ / 0-)

      for are being forced on the rest of us.

      I lived in Texas and have driven many places there. That state is huge! It took roughly 12 hours to drive from the Guadalupe National Park in west Texas to Central Texas. Seven clinics don't begin to cover what is needed there.

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      by Lily O Lady on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:02:42 PM PDT

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      •  I live in West Texas. Let me give y'all some ideas (2+ / 0-)
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        about travel times.

        I'm six hours via Interstate from Dallas -- and an hour and a half from the Interstate that goes there. Either one of the two.

        I'm six hours from El Paso.

        I'm nine hours from Houston.

        I'm seven hours from Austin.

        I'm eight hours from San Antonio.

        The Size of Texas

        What is the size of Texas? The total land area covered by Texas is the second amongst the different U.S. states. It measures 268,820 square miles or 696,241 kilometers. Its length is approximately 790 miles or 1,270 kilometers, while its width measures 773 miles or 1,244 kilometers. The lowest point is the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. On the other hand, the highest point is Guadalupe Peak, which measures 8,751 feet or 2,667 meters high.

        and here's a little something to show you just how big Texas is outside those seven cities likely to retain open clinics:
        Length and Breadth of Texas

        The longest straight-line distance in a general north-south direction is 801 miles from the northwest corner of the Panhandle to the extreme southern tip of Texas on the Rio Grande below Brownsville. The greatest east-west distance is 773 miles from the extreme eastward bend in the Sabine River in Newton County to the extreme western bulge of the Rio Grande just above El Paso.

        Geographic center of Texas

        The geographic center of Texas is about 15 miles northeast of Brady in northern McCulloch County.

        Texas' Boundary Lines
        The boundary of Texas by segments, including only larger river bends and only the great arc of the coastline, is as follows:

        Rio Grande
        Coastline (tidewater)
        Sabine River, Lake and Pass
        Sabine River to Red River
        Red River
        Eastern Panhandle line
        Northern Panhandle line
        Western Panhandle line
        Along 32nd parallel
        Total   
        889.0 miles
        367.0 miles
        180.0 miles
        106.5 miles
        480.0 miles
        133.6 miles
        167.0 miles
        310.2 miles
        209.0 miles
        2,842.3 miles

        LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

        by BlackSheep1 on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 06:47:33 PM PDT

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    •  they won't care because it's "God's Will" (4+ / 0-)
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      I guess having the means to save the mother's life is not God's will . . .even though it's there

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      by Clytemnestra on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:31:16 PM PDT

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      •  "God's Will" (2+ / 0-)
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        I wonder how many of these religious control freaks  even realize the following medical facts:

        1. 50% of all fertilized eggs are never implanted in the womb out  but are expelled from the body at the woman's next period?
        2. An absolute minimum of 15% and possibly even as high as 30% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage?

        As these people believe that life begins at conception and that a fertilized egg is a "baby", the only logical conclusion is that God kills millions more "babies" on a daily basis than all the abortion providers on the planet combined!!!

    •  Thank you for this. (7+ / 0-)

      I have read similar accounts from other ER doctors and nurses before.

      They are some of the fiercest advocates of safe and legal abortion services... but they are aging.  The subsequent generations don't know the history.

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      by cai on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:54:07 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks. Reading the original post brought (4+ / 0-)
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        back a lot of bad memories from that period.  Those were only two that popped into my head as I was reading this post.  Since then, I've remembered at least a dozen more that are pretty terrible. The ones I wrote about were self-induced abortions.  There is another whole group that I remember who were done by the back alley abortionists.  They were equally horrible.

        A word to the wise is sufficient. Republicans need at least a paragraph.

        by d3clark on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 01:07:22 PM PDT

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        •  If you wanted to write a diary about these (5+ / 0-)

          memories, that might be useful.  Too many people don't know that abortions still happened pre-Roe... they just killed and maimed a lot of women on the way.

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          by cai on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 01:13:02 PM PDT

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        •  Yes! (1+ / 0-)
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          I know that it would be a hard diary to write, but please write about it.

          I was born in 77 - I don't know what that world was like.  There are many others my age who are anti-choice because they don't understand.

          A diary from you would be a good place to point to and say, "This is what happens.  Not some fairy tale, unicorn prancing, all-is-well-with-the-world bullshit".

          Please do write it.

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          by dawgflyer13 on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 01:45:46 PM PDT

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    •  They don't care (2+ / 0-)
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      NonnyO, d3clark

      if people die.  They actually seem to enjoy it.

    •  It's already happening (6+ / 0-)

      according to Amy Hagstrom Miller who was interviewed on Rachel last March. She was part of several of the clinics that have already closed in Texas. Here's what she said last March:

      We`re also seeing more and more women take matters into their own hands and, you know, this has been well publicized that people go over the border, they get medications to try to self-induce abortion. And so sometimes they`ll come to us afterward for an ultrasound to see if they`re still pregnant. Sometimes they`ll be actively bleeding and so we`ll refer them somewhere where they can get a DNC.So we saw an increase of self-induction in -- you know, in 2012, at the end of 2012, and then we`ve seen an even greater increase right now.
      It's an amazing report. And sad. and really messed up. Not only are they taking legal abortion away from a whole population of people, they are taking their only access to medical care.
      http://www.msnbc.com/...
    •  Yes, you saw women with "limited means." (2+ / 0-)
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      BlackSheep1, jplanner

      I lived in Texas before Roe v. Wade. Those of us with good jobs, and perhaps family support, knew that if we got pregnant we would plan a trip to New York. That was a difficult thing to do--but at least we had options. The poor didn't.

  •  waiting for Open Carry Planned Parenthood.... /nt (2+ / 0-)
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    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:16:05 PM PDT

  •  This might not be a terrible time to donate to (7+ / 0-)

    the National Network of Abortion Funds, or your local abortion fund (particularly if you're in Texas).  NNAF helps women without funds pay for their procedures and/or travel to their clinics.

    Because, as we all know, restricting abortion is about punishing women, but it affects poor and working class women the most.  After all, women with more financial resources can simply fly to somewhere abortion is legal.

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    by cai on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:32:23 PM PDT

  •  R they going 2 require a pee preg test at border? (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Nicci August

    because the closer a woman human incubator is to the Mexican border (Rio Grande Valley) the more likely she will be to have this issue taken care of there. It's already happening Which will pose more risks.

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    by Clytemnestra on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:34:32 PM PDT

  •  GeeOooPee (8+ / 0-)

    Picking GOP

    abortion-poster

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:48:55 PM PDT

  •  I humbly submit that Republicans (4+ / 0-)
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    should rename themselves into Bene Tleilax.

    Iuris praecepta sunt haec: Honeste vivere, alterum non laedere, suum cuique tribuere. - Ulpian, Digestae 1, 3

    by Dauphin on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:51:42 PM PDT

  •  I want a law which forces people to give me (8+ / 0-)

    a kidney if I need one.

    Once we've decided that government can force people to turn over their bodies or parts of their bodies for every possible life-threatening situation, then we can talk about forcing me to allow a fetus to use my body for gestation.

    So, for all those people on the lists for organs that other people could live without, the government should be there for you! Every body with useful parts must register and be prepared to donate.

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    by UnaSpenser on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 12:57:00 PM PDT

  •  Oh....They Are So Nasty! (0+ / 0-)

    What business is it of theirs?  These bible totters should mind their own vaginal business.  Pay attention to their own so-called Christian virtuous brides, & leave everyone else alone.

    I thought their Golden Rule was:  Love one another as I have loved you.  What about that there interpretation of the Bible?

  •  this is communism (1+ / 0-)
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    4Freedom

    in rumania, the communists wanted to increase
    fertility so they banned abortion and birth control.

  •  FWIW, they aren't "abortion clinics" . . . (4+ / 0-)

    that's the bad guys' language.  They are "women's health clinics that also provide abortion services."

    "The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.”" -- Paul Dirac

    by Rikon Snow on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 01:41:10 PM PDT

  •  The black market for pharmacological abortion (5+ / 0-)
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    annieli, JanL, 4Freedom, Matt Z, Black Knight

    just became tremendously lucrative.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 02:02:49 PM PDT

  •  the gop (0+ / 0-)

    will never completely eradicate abortion that would be a  death sentence politically at least in the short term, they need it as an issue to keep their base energized and motivated emotionally and monetarily.  

    •  Eradication is the goal (0+ / 0-)

      Eradication of abortion, even in cases of rape or incest, is exactly what they're attempting in Texas. They're using a trick of making abortion "safer" through unreasonably strict requirements in order to close abortion clinics.

  •  What doesn't make sense is that (1+ / 0-)
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    conservatives are against right-to-choose, then complain that "minorities are having babies who will grow up to be liberals, and live off of their "taxpayers' dollars.

    •  No, they want more white women to have children (0+ / 0-)

      to keep the majority white as long as possible. They don't
      care about the negro because they lynch us with guns & put us in prison to be slaves for evil big biz.

      I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

      by a2nite on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 02:22:21 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Why is it... (0+ / 0-)

    ...that abortion services can't be offered at any hospital with a maternity ward?  I understand some sectarian hospitals wouldn't want to and that's their prerogative IMO, but aren't almost all births in the US in hospitals these days?  It seems that you should be able to go to the same relatively close hospital to get an abortion as you would be rushed to when you go into labor for a child carried to term.  The other benefit is that hospitals often sit on enough land that they can keep protesters safely off their property.

    •  Security, for one. What do you think would (0+ / 0-)

      happen the first time someone sets off a large bomb in the ER of that hospital because they perform abortions there?  Like it or not, terrorism has been quite effective.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 02:35:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I guess I was thinking... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...that a hospital could be made secure enough to prevent that from happening in the first place, as in a better job than the clinics in that regard.  I guess in a hospital I just figured the service would fade into the background as opposed to clinics that exist for that purpose.  I was going to argue that bombing an ER made no sense, but logic probably isn't the strong suit here.  My nearby hospital may do them; I wouldn't be surprised, but I have no idea.  It certainly has a maternity ward staffed by plenty of OB-GYNs.

        •  The target would be the hospital itself and if (0+ / 0-)

          they couldn't get to the area where the abortions were being performed they would simply pick softer targets such as the ER.  Due to it's nature, an ER would not be able to have the same level of security as an abortion clinic.

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 03:10:17 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  It was regularly performed in normal city (2+ / 0-)
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      vadem165, RainyDay

      hospitals in the early days after Roe vs Wade. When I was hospitalized for a minor procedure, my roommate was having an abortion.

  •  Boo! I'm a woman! I'm scary! I can replicate! (3+ / 0-)

    Through me passes the human genome. Until artificial wombs, mine is the one that births the people.

    Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! A bunch of white male idiots thought you could control the power of the womb.

    Well, that's a giant fail. You are consolidating women's power as can nothing else. It will take a few years go ripen, but the seeds of your undoing have been sown, and the upcoming years will be fruitful in the struggle against the oppression of women's right to their bodies, their identities, and their souls.

    (And their incomes.)

    I may no longer be a live-bearer, but I recall what drafting men did to politics during Vietnam. My hope for Millennial women is that they respond to strictures on their physical persons with similar vigor.

    I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it's for or against. ~ Malcolm X -8.62 -8.36

    by 4Freedom on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 02:30:25 PM PDT

  •  It's one hundred per cent class warfare. (1+ / 0-)
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    Middle class people can afford to go to LA for the weekend; rich people can combine it with a shopping spree.

    Whether it's because poor people are vulnerable, or because they believe the poor aren't "good" girls who are just getting "in trouble", this is purposely tailored to affect poor people only.

    Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

    by Inland on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 02:37:45 PM PDT

  •  I like the term "forced-birthers" (2+ / 0-)
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    Thanks, MB.

    And after the child is born, they say, "Not my problem!"  That makes them, maybe, "baby dumpers."

  •  The last line of this piece... (0+ / 0-)

    is spot on!  It IS all about control.  These actions reveal that the point is to enforce the right-wing version of 'birth control" -- as in "WE will control whether YOU give birth or not."

    When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called "the People's Stick." ~ Mikhail Bakunin

    by Sick Semper on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 07:34:24 PM PDT

  •  Canada has more clinics and easier access ... (0+ / 0-)

    ...to abortion yet has a lower abortion rate per capita.

    In some perverse way, republican efforts to close abortion clinics seems to increase abortion.

    Though more likely, it's the fact that closing Planned Parenthood not only shuts down an abortion provider, but shuts down a contraceptive provider as well.

    If peoples lives weren't being affected, it would be funny.

  •  No "War on Women"... (0+ / 0-)

    What we bear witness to is no metaphorical "War on Women".  It's an all-out assault on the very notion of women as autonomous beings, with rights equal to those of men, and control of their own bodies, lives and destinies - from birth control to abortion; from equal opportunities in education to promotion and compensation parity in the workplace; from equal protection under the law to the security of knowing that we live in a society that will not tolerate violence against women, let alone glorify it.  

    And, the strategy in that assault is becoming terrifyingly transparent.  First, throw as much "crazy" at us as they possibly can.  Sure, not all of it is going to stick, but some of it will.  And, a victory is a victory.  Meanwhile, the blitz of crazy has the effect of numbing us to the really insane notions coming out of their mouths - notions that 10 years ago would have had them laughed (or shamed) off the public stage.  More insidiously, while targeting everyone with their campaign of crazy, they are conducting extremely effective class warfare.  They pass laws that, in effect, deny women of the poor and working classes full control over their reproductive rights by limiting their choices on most issues to one choice - the Conservative one.  

    The "forced birthers" count on upper and middle class women staying out of the fray.  After all, we don't get our paps at the free clinic.  We don't get our birth control there.  And, should we ever need an abortion, we can find a doctor on our own.  We don't need the clinic for that, either.  They hope all of the noise they throw at us everyday leave us too weary to fight.  But, surely we see that if we do not all stand together to fight for all of our rights, they will just keep chipping away at them until we women have none at all.

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