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We agree that the Republican Party agenda is evil. So do they, but each faction claims that it is only the extremists (the Rightist Adventurists, in an inversion of Communist jargon) or the RINOs (the Leftist Running Dogs) that are the problem, not themselves. I have identified ten major factions among the Republicans, each focused on different issues, and each expressing the utmost contempt for all of the others as well as the rest of us, in spite of the massive overlap among them.

It used to be that the various Republican factions regarded the others as Useful Idiots, in the Soviet Communist sense, but no more. Why, you could very well think that you were observing Walt Kelly's Jack Acid Society, in which the Molester had succeeded in getting everybody else, even his best friend and #2 in the Society Deacon Mushrat, on his suspects list. But can he get himself on the list? Ah, well, spoilers. You should read it, now that the Bircher Koch brothers think they can buy up America and run it as a wholly-owned subsidiary. Actually, I intend to Diary The Jack Acid Society Black Book in my Grokking Republicans series for the Readers and Book Lovers group.

When you hear a Republican talking nonsense, which is to say when you hear a Republican, it can be of value to know which kind of nonsense it is intended to be, and which other nonsense it may be intended to counter. They are quite commonly not talking to us, but to the echoes in the chamber. Welcome to the swamp.

We don't do Nazi comparisons. Site rules, and quite right, too. But Communist Party shenanigans not directly involving mass killings are fair game. It has been observed that the Very Far Right and the Very Far Left become nearly indistinguishable in practice, at the point where each ignores real people.

Capitalism is the oppression of man by man. Communism is precisely the reverse.
The history of the implosion of the Communist Party USA would be hilarious if it were not made up of so many personal tragedies. Similarly for the implosion of the Federalists, 1800–1815, although it was much less vicious, and the coming implosion of the Republicans, who have been vying week by week to see who can come out with the craziest and most vile assaults on humanity and each other. We don't have time for all of that today, but those who know about such things can think of the Trotskyists vs. the Stalinists when observing current Republican infighting.

Who are the factions, and what do they want?

The 1%

The core of the Republican Party from the time of Lincoln (who made his national reputation as a railroad lawyer, defending railroads against the depredations of the Swamp Act in many slave states) has been big business. These are the Leisure Class, characterized both by Conspicuous Consumption and a reliance on force and fraud, as identified by Thorstein Veblen. They are also known as the National Bourgeois to Marxists, and as Country Club Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce. The worst of the Wall Street villains call themselves the Masters of the Universe.

Everything for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations

Their issues are tax cuts and loopholes, subsidies, deregulation (except for vast expansion of so-called Intellectual Property rights), union-busting, and US government interference in foreign markets in their favor. Wall Street is a particularly egregious subset that wants to convert as much as possible of the US economy to financial shenanigans from which they can get a cut. There are getting to be more of them, and they are getting to have so much influence that law enforcement is quite leery of going after them for stealing billions of dollars, money laundering for drug cartels, and other shenanigans.

The Party

Their issue is

Jobs, jobs, jobs
meaning only their own jobs in government, not yours, and whatever it takes to get re-elected. Issues? What are those? Oh, you mean talking points! Messaging! Yes, we have people working on that.

Along with elected Republican officials, this includes office and campaign staff, consultants, and so on. It is numerically one of the smallest factions, even including all state and local government, but nothing else happens without it. Of course, elected Republicans divide up among all of the other factions. So we have the spectacle of the RNC and College Republicans both pleading with the Base to allow them to recruit conservative Blacks, Latinos, women, LGBTs, and so on, and the Base saying, "Nuh-uh!"

The Party depends on campaign contributions, outside funding by dark money, Groupthink Tanks, the Echo Chamber, corporate ownership of media, and ginning up scandal whether it exists or not.

Old-line racists

These are the core of the original Republican Southern Strategy, with roots in Strom Thurmond's explicitly segregationist Dixiecrat campaign of 1948. Barry Goldwater hired Thurmond's campaign strategist, Harry Dent Jr., in 1964, and we then got Kevin Phillips (We don't need Black votes) in the Nixon campaign, and Lee Atwater (It's OK as long as Blacks get hurt worse) in the Reagan campaign.

OMG, he's Blaaaaack!!!
Voter suppression to take us back to Jim Crow and no social programs that spend a dime on helping anybody but deserving prosperous White Christians. We built this country, didn't nobody help us nohow! We were entitled to all that labor from our slaves! That's Property Rights!

As they express it, their issue is Taking Their Country Back and undoing all of the "privileges" for blacks and other minorities, and anybody else who gets in the way, what they used to call Commie N******-lovers. And making sure that White women don't—I mean they don't get to mess with White women.

The Religious Right

Before the Civil War, Southern Baptist churches were a mainstay of the slave system, providing supposed religious and even economic and social justification for slavery via Curse of Ham theology. They had perverted a Bible story to say that Black Africans had been cursed with mental and moral failings that made them fit only to be slaves of Whites, and that slavery was good for slaves! They also ignored every rule in the Bible about how to treat slaves, including the fact that they could only be kept for seven years.

That officially racist theology kept up all through the Jim Crow segregation period and beyond, but the SBC eventually renounced racism and apologized for it. So that is officially off the table.

Except in the churches that didn't.

What else?

Gays are sinners and the Gay Agenda will destroy society. But we can cure that!

Women must know their place and obey their fathers and husbands. No abortion, no contraception. Well, maybe sometimes, but we get to set the rules for everybody else.

In the most extreme versions, Christians should run the entire government (Dominionism), or all laws should come straight from the Bible (Theonomy); the First Amendment doesn't apply to non-Christians (certainly not your blasphemous Flying Spaghetti Monster), possibly even to any kind of Christian but our own.

Mammonism is quite strong in the most bigoted churches. Do you suppose there could be a connection?

Racists and religious Creationists agree that we and Darwin cannot tell them that they are descended from Black Africans just like everybody else, although they pretend that they object to Evolution for other reasons.

There is also an obsession among some of them with fairy tales about the End Times, including President Obama being the Antichrist, and trying to get Israel into a war with all Muslim countries on the planet, so that The Jews can kill off all of The Muslims just in time to convert to Christianity for the Thousand-Year Kingdom of Christ on Earth. That poisons our Middle East policy.


Nullification and states rights is a great idea if you can pull it off, that is, if you actually have a majority in support of your position. Thomas Jefferson was strongly in favor of states nullifying the obviously unconstitutional Alien and Sedition Laws, and refused to enforce them as President. States together with strong public opinion and a somewhat willing Administration have in practice nullified a substantial portion of the anti-marijuana laws in the US, although of course we have a long way to go. But legally, nullification is a nullity.

Neo-Confederates, however, want to reverse what they consider to be barbaric and dishonorable Yankee tyranny, currently including half a century of settled law from the Civil Rights era, and Constitutional amendments from much further back, and the outcome of a war, from a position as a tiny minority. Back in the days of Jim Crow they were actually the majority in the South, and they got to enact vicious segregation and voter suppression laws, backed up with extrajudicial killings and other oppressions, all with the permission of the Supreme Court in Plessey v. Ferguson.

These days, we hear about nullifying gun and immigration laws, mostly, although you might occasionally see a sign for repealing Loving v. Virginia and reinstituting anti-miscegenation laws, or for getting rid of popular election of Senators. But there is plenty of secession talk, even though nothing ever comes of it.

Tea Parties

The beginning of the Tea Parties was astroturf opposition to the Affordable Care Act, hence Obamacare, but they have taken on a life of their own, turning savagely on their supposed corporate masters and going full-on Bircher with demands to shut down the government and default on the national debt. This should be no surprise, considering how much of the astroturfing was done by the Bircher Koch brothers, whose father Charles Koch was a co-founder and leading funder of the organization.

One of their leading demands in 2009 was for government to keep its hands off their Medicare. With the success of the ACA even among Republicans, I fully expect to hear

Hands off my Obamacare!
a few more steps down the road.

The Tea Parties have taken on all of the hatreds of all of the other factions for other people, plus they hate the corporate faction bitterly, even while still supporting its key issues, tax cuts, deregulation, and union-bashing.

The struggle between the Tea Parties and the regular Republicans has become the biggest story in elections, ever since Tea Party candidates started losing elections that should have been shoo-ins. While the Tea Parties are currently the greatest threat to governance in the country, they are also the most potent weapon that Democrats have to GOTV.

Faux Libertarians

People think that they are Libertarians, but they are either hypocrites

Everybody who matters should be able to do anything that does not harm another person of any consequence in any way we care about.
or haven't thought it through past the first step
I want what I want when I want it.
Libertarians say that they are for small government, fiscal responsibility, Civil Rights except when it comes to making business owners comply, ending foreign wars and not getting involved in new ones, and ending the War on Drugs and sentencing disparities in the criminal courts.

Actually, they are for beggar-thy-neighbor, Devil take the hindmost economics, privatization of all of government including money, and Social Darwinism.

College Republicans

Why can't we be friends?
College Republicans include all factions, but the leadership is attempting to face up to the fact that Republicans are in a demographic catastrophe and on top of that are driving potential voters away as hard as possible in the War on Everybody Including Each Other. Like the RNC, the College Republican National Committee (CRNC) commissioned a study asking why voters won't vote for Republicans, and tried to put a plan together to reach out to a few of the big voting blocks, especially women, Blacks, and immigrants. Nuh-uh! says the Tea Party, and Republican legislatures have been vying to cut taxes and services (especially education), make abortion inaccessible to women or as demeaning as possible, suppress voting rights, and attack both immigrants and refugees, along with actual Latino citizens.


Another numerically tiny group with outsize influence in the Bush years, still treated as Very Serious People in the MSM no matter how much they got wrong.

Shoot first, and refuse to answer questions after.
Their policy since Gulf War I has been to make war in the Middle East and install puppet governments that would somehow convince everybody in the region that democracy was the answer to all of their problems.

They already knew in Iraq that good government would be the answer to many of their problems, and Paul Bremer and Nouri al-Maliki weren't and aren't it. Similarly Hamid Karzai and the warlords vs. the Taliban don't cut it in Afghanistan.

Gun nuts

Guns are the answer! What was the question?
The NRA deservedly gets a bit of bad press, and should get lots more, for insisting that terrorists should be able to buy assault weapons with hundred-round magazines unimpeded, but the real crazies are in Gun Owners of America and the National Association for Gun Rights. When the NRA was negotiating the Manchin-Toomey Bill, GOA and NAGR effectively Tea-Partied them into dropping it.

Also there are modest numbers of crazies in the Militias and the Oathkeepers, as we saw at the Bundy Ranch, and more in the deepest, darkest conspiracy-filled corners of the Internet. Because the mildest measures for preventing children being killed in schools inherently mean nothing short of confiscation of all of their guns, leaving them helpless in the face of the coming zombie apocalypse, or the UN black helicopters, or something. Or maybe they will just rise up and overthrow the Federal tyranny, all the millions of them that failed to show up in DC for the American Spring not long ago to arrest Obama and both House and Senate Democratic and Republican leadership and put in a Constitutional government.

OK, but what do we do about them?

There is a great deal that we can and must do to counter each of these sets of delusions, especially among young people who are still capable of entertaining a range of unapproved thoughts from the evidence-based world. I have written about that elsewhere, for example in my Diary Undeluding the Deluded, and will go on doing so. In particular, I will explain how to use the theory from The Evolution of Cooperation, by Robert Axelrod, to design interventions, as part of my Grokking Republicans series.

Above all we have to vote the scoundrels out of office, and fix voting so they can't get back in while they remain a minority. That means outlawing gerrymanders and voter suppression, and creating a new SCOTUS-proof preclearance list. To do that we have to organize and GOTV.

But the key point for the longer term is that each of their ideological factions other than the 1% is shrinking, while Democratic Latinos in particular are growing. And the 1% do not have enough natural allies to maintain their oligarchy when their unnatural allies, their assorted Useless Idiots, are not there to back them up, or are no longer interested in doing so because the 1% will not have the power to give them anything in return.

Originally posted to Mokurai on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 05:04 PM PDT.

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  •  Excellent breakdown! (10+ / 0-)

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 05:24:42 PM PDT

  •  I think it should be "Republican Beastiality" (7+ / 0-)

    They've been screwing a dead horse for a long time.

    May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

    by oldcrow on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 05:33:26 PM PDT

  •  They Achieved Blocking Nullification in 2010. (7+ / 0-)

    Meaningful progressive policy can't be passed nationally nor in about 35 states, judging for example by the number that wouldn't offer ACA exchanges. The state exchanges were a small, scattered state experiment; the Court could render affordable insurance for the bottom 30% the same.

    There's a lot of legacy progressive policy that will take some years to repeal, but as far as passing new policy, we're within measurement error to nullification now.

    Don't forget, government hasn't advanced the people since the Beatles; the younger half of the country has never seen the country and its economy as democratic.

    You don't need a majority of occupants when you have a majority of owners, the public square, and you control the cost of campaigning.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 05:43:20 PM PDT

  •  GOP (5+ / 0-)

    IT seems like they are bent on destroying themselves. When you're against everyone you can't expect anyones support.

    Wish in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up first. - Sage advice from a Mother to her son

    by DonJ on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 05:44:26 PM PDT

  •  The bourgeoisie (10+ / 0-)

    has expanded into a new monster since Marx's time (as Piketty has pointed out) and they have subverted the democratic process. The inheritance class, the scoundrels making billions of dollars in what Marx called "fictitious capital" alongside megalithic firms worth trillions. Having conversations with some conservatives, and I stress the word some, they seem to be open to the general idea that capitalism is somewhat broken and feeding billionaires who don't really work, feeding monopolistic firms/corporations but anytime this sort of thought pops up they begin to rationalize it all, saying we shouldn't "punish" people simply for being wealthy. Then, as with all the free market Ron Paul types, they'll rail on and on blaming government intervention for everything. For the wealth accumulation, the economic crisis, inequality, crime, poverty- they even think the government has conspired to keep the market from curing cancer!

     Hayek, Rand, Ludwig Von Mises and Milton Friedman, the four horseman of the apocalypse, have absolutely perverted the rights collective psyche- the ascendance of Neoliberalism in the 1970's is the culprit. We lost the battle at the grass roots level (organizing labor) and within academia culminating in backwards political economy and or economic policies in Washington for over 30 years.  

     On a positive note economics students within various universities have begun to push back, a step in the right (left) direction. An example:

    And movements such as Occupy have put inequality on the radar.

     As we know Republicans, beginning with Reagan, began to implement this ideology and it has also spread into the Democratic Party but ya, the right wing constituency needs to be marginalized and confronted with facts as this battle started with Hayek and his strategy to win the battle of ideas. His strategy in a nutshell, in his own words:

    "I would join with others in forming a scholarly research organisation to supply intellectuals in universities, schools, journalism and broadcasting with authoritative studies of the economic theory of markets and its application to practical affairs."

     And the bastard won. Backed up by thousands of other bastards who have billions of dollars to "spread the message". Free market ideology is so entwined with the American psyche it's almost a religion. A cult. And yes we're in need of a massive deprogramming session. Add in the homophobia, racism and sexism and it forms a complete mountain of right wing bullshit. I don't have the answers. I don't know how to fix this, if I did I'd be revolutionary Jesus leading the people to glory. My opinions on possible solution's surround winning this battle of ideas within our universities, within the media and within the community by working with those most impacted by this ideology building awareness via class struggle against the attacks on labor, the attacks on women, the attacks on POC, the gay community etc. And we've been making progress on the social equality front. The Economic side or material equality is a harder nut to crack.

     There's a massive machine working against us. Billions of dollars being funneled into Washington, funneled into education to manipulate ideas, into so called grass roots movements like the Tea Party, into the news media, film, advertizing. Everything. This current economic crisis is a great example. Government intervention is blamed via non stop lies/propaganda from economics departments, politicians, newspapers, websites etc all with hundreds of billions of dollars in funding. The Neoliberals have created a rip in the space-time continuum. And as we've seen with most economic crisis in the past the right wing uses racism to divide. It's the Mexicans fault. Or the Jews. Or people of color greedily buying homes they couldn't afford.

     It's more than just a matter of voting its a battle of ideas and they have the money behind them on economic issues. Capitalism is a tad more open to social change but when that starts to impact profits we hit a brick wall. Even within the Democratic Party.


    •  Indeed, the inmates are in charge of the asylum (5+ / 0-)
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      Hayek is one of the most important instances of Cognitive Dissonance, which I will be writing about in my book series Grokking Republicans a week from Monday. His prediction that the British National Health Service would lead directly to Stalinism is one of the greatest predictive failures of any ideology outside of Communism. It remained an article of faith among Republicans for decades, although for some reason we don't hear much of that about Obamacare any more.

      The division in economics in the US is primarily between Friedmanite Market Fundamentalists at Chicago (freshwater economics) and everybody else, mostly on the coasts (saltwater economics). I have been trying to think about how to explain that for years, off and on, and I think I am starting to get an idea.

      Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

      by Mokurai on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 08:04:41 PM PDT

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      •  split in economics (3+ / 0-)

        The Austrian school which was swept aside long ago is, for some bizarre reason, becoming popular (not within any actual economic departments or universities but within the backwards libertarian movement). Keynesian's are disagreeing with neo Keynesian'swho aredisagreing with post Keynesian's. Marxians (not to be confused with Marxists), who were also swept aside by Keynesian theory decades ago, have gained some ground since the 2007-8 economic crisis hit (people such as Meghnad Desai etc). The Chicago School is being criticized by pretty much everyone, yes, but the predictive power or science of economics itself is in question and people are scrambling for a new way to approach economics outside of rigid dogmatic failed jargon relying on subjective models and assumptions about human behavior cut off from the other social sciences.

         How was "communism" a failed predictive ideology? Are we talking about Marx's immiseration thesis? The inevitable destruction of capitalism via it''s own internal contradictions? I think one of the main reasons mainstream economics is in such trouble now is the fact no one saw this current crisis coming. Atop of that Pikett'ys book has caused folks such as Krugman to rethink much of his prior approach.

         If making capitalism work and work well for all people is the goal a completely new approach is needed. Another thing economists ignore (by relying on future innovation) is the ecological/climate crisis. Some unforeseen technology is the answer to the problem of a system that demands perpetual growth on a planet with finite resources.  Some different magic technology is also to save us from climate change (along with government intervention which simply isn't happening). You know, all this while they support expanding globalization. And the inequality problem as Piketty has blown everyone away with basically requires a global government to solve.

         And if mainstream economics couldn't predict this current crisis, well, what use is it? There's some major shifts taking place right now outside of the old Saltwater and freshwater divide. The Neoliberals need to be swept aside but even if that happens all is not well in economic theory.

         Major issues (without getting into detail)

        1.climate change/ecology under a system of perpetual growth.

        2. predicting and therefore preventing future economic crisis

        3. ending the current massive push in inequality

        What was it that Marx wrote about, so many years ago? Ecological crisis, economic crisis and massive inequality. The falling rate of profit? Mainstream economics has moved away from the Labor Theory of Value so once they toss that aside the baby goes out with the bathwater.

         I'm an advocate of democratic eco-socialism myself and reject a lot of the basic market fundamentals mainstream economists latch onto so detailed conversations concerning economic theory never really materialize in anything positive but more heterodox theory is being looked at in today's climate so this is a good thing.

        •  Leninism, Stalinism, and Maoism (1+ / 0-)
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          were all complete predictive failures for economic and social development, even apart from their general nastiness. The Great Leap Backward is one of the worst examples. Also, there has never been a Communist revolution of the sort predicted by Marx out of the collapse of a Capitalist system falling over its own internal contradictions. There have only been revolutions in predominantly agrarian societies led by people who claim to be Communists, and regimes imposed from the outside by force.

          We do not need magic technology to undo Global Warming. We are at the first tipping point, Grid Parity, right now, where renewables are cheaper than coal and oil, and competitive with gas. We will inevitably reach Peak Carbon fairly soon, and then Carbon Neutrality in due course. We will then need to go heavily carbon-negative to extract a century of carbon dioxide from the environment, preferably in less than a century. There are several technologies known right now that could accomplish this, and we will be working on costs and practicalities, such as any further environmental side effects of possibly seeding the ocean with iron or mining as much olivine as we did coal.

          Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

          by Mokurai on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 08:51:13 AM PDT

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          •  Indeed (1+ / 0-)
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            you are correct. Bolshevism was opposed by many socialists as it began to manifest and as they took power in Russia. They mangles Marx's main theory of historical Materialism, which in part is a theory of social/economic development. The Mensheviks and others, including Karl Kautsky, wrote detailed accounts explaining why the Bolshevik efforts in Russia would be authoritarian and eventually fail economically. Most having to do with Marx's theory of development which Bolsheviks threw aside.

             The theory shows that socialism can only develop in nations/regions where capitalism has advanced industry and the population has experienced a relative amount of democracy under enlightenment values. Socialism was never meant to be a system where more feudal economies/nations are pushed right into socialism. Marx saw development as happening in stages and the capitalist stage of development was an absolutely necessary precondition before socialism can manifest. These conditions didn't exist in Russia in 1917 nor in Mao's China. They attempted to skip the capitalist phase of development.

             The Bolsheviks themselves implemented the "NEP" which was a form of state capitalism:


            From there, actual socialism never took hold. The working class was never in control of production/distribution of goods.

             Mao attempted to take their approach (throwing historical materialism aside) further by not implementing state capitalism. He tried to jump right into communism and the results were disastrous. Attempting to take a more feudal system and push right to communism without a period of capitalist development (great leap forward) and without bourgeois democracy under enlightenment values- he tried to remedy that with the "cultural revolution".  In short, Mao was an idiot.

             As far as central planning later in the USSR's existence they didn't have the means to process the proper information. It was a centralized command economy with bureaucrats in charge making all the wrong decisions. Most modern socialists advocate a decentralized planned economy, with the use of modern supercomputers and democratic information analysis to formulate production/distribution needs. All done democratically with the working class taking part at the point of production.

             This has only been attempted once, in the 1970's. Computing power at that point wasn't advanced enough but the attempt wasn't left to succeed or fail on its own anyway. The US funded/supported the fascist Pinochet to put an end to it. Along with Milton Friedman, the Chicago School and Friedrich Hayek. Chile's democratically elected socialist government was overthrown, the people subjected to brutality and then years of economic Neoliberalism which then set the stage for Neoliberal ideology to take over in America and spread the world over.

             Many socialists also advocate a form of market socialism. People such as Richard Wolf, Chomsky, at times, Meghnad Desai etc. we can look to the Mondragon Corporation to show that it works:


             Paul Cockshott has also published some very interesting stuff:


             There's also the social democratic forms of socialism that do a lot of great things in less developed nations, for the poor that is, the rich hate it. Anyhow, the point is we're going to have to eventually create a zero growth economic system. This is undeniable fact. Climate change and earths overall ecosystem can't handle capitalism for 100, 200, 300 more years. It's simply impossible. We're going to have to eventually figure out a way to met humanities material needs outside of the profit motive. It doesn't even have to be socialism so long as whatever alternative system is highly democratic and environmentally sustainable. So long as the endless wars stop, various economic crisis and the need for ever expanding growth.  

          •  on climate change (0+ / 0-)

            absolutely nothing is being done. carbon output is increasing and the technology we do have, such as carbon capture, isn't being used on any meaningful scale. It's not profitable. Meanwhile the economic system demands perpetual growth and growth is n fact what's taking place. This economic growth is pushing more and more carbon into the atmosphere.  

             The reason government intervention, such as taxes etc, can't do anything on a meaningful scale is because it would slow growth. Capitalism can't survive long term with a 1% or 2% growth rate and especially under zero growth. The entire situation is a conundrum. I'll do a diary post on it with in depth analysis/data. It's too complex to discuss in the comment section. I have to figure out how to post pics, videos and block quote before I do this. All of the information is out there, it's just some very uncomfortable truths economists and politicians don't want to face.    

            •  No, actually, we are reducing construction (1+ / 0-)
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              of coal-fired power plants, from more than 150 in 2007 in the US to 15 in 2012. We are building mainly renewable energy plants. That means that Peak Carbon for the US is not very far off. It has already been passed in several other countries.

              China and India will take the longest, but they are ramping up both wind and solar as fast as their domestic industrial base allows.

              We know how to go completely carbon neutral except for making steel, and we are getting some ideas for going strongly carbon-negative after that.

              Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

              by Mokurai on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 06:05:08 PM PDT

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  •  Great diary. (10+ / 0-)

    Great comments.  

    Just this morning, an earnest Newbie at work was telling me what a great POTUS Rick Perry would be, and what an awesome state Texas is to live in because of Perry's policies.  

    But he's young yet, so I'll still be nice and help him learn his job when he asks.  If he thinks I'm a good person before he finds out I'm a Progressive, maybe he will someday have a reason to think twice about some of his beliefs.  

    "The light which puts out our sight is darkness to us." Thoreau

    by NancyWH on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 06:34:25 PM PDT

  •  what most, by far, have in common is (2+ / 0-)
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    the accumulated years of radio slime that informs them and makes them feel like they are a majority and that THEY represent the founding fathers ideal, so much so that whereas they used to feel some societal disdain and shaming, their talk radio god cheerleaders give them confidence and certainty to go forward and assert their looniness and ignorance and racism and hate, with energy.

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 07:53:06 PM PDT

  •  Hey, the Rec list (4+ / 0-)
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    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 08:06:57 PM PDT

  •  Excellent work. (3+ / 0-)
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    Larsstephens, whl, delver

    T+R and hot-listed for future reference.

  •  Faux libertarians (1+ / 0-)
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    include devotees of Ayn Rand like Rand Paul and Paul Ryan, both of whom present themselves as religious while worshiping the philosophy of an atheist. And one of whom made substantial amounts of money by accepting government money from Medicare and the other of whom has never supported himself since college not on the government dime.

    Let's also not forget all the Ron Paul faux libertarians who make Barry Goldwater spin in his grave every time they proclaim themselves pro-forced birth.

  •  One quible (0+ / 0-)

    I see the right wing gun not as not a separate group but an unholy union between the Racists, Neo-Confederates, Libertarians and Tea Party.  

    Mostly they are like the rest of the populist right ideological anti-federalists.  The difference is they are simply more fanatical.  

    I'm a 4 Freedoms Democrat.

    by DavidMS on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 10:05:48 PM PDT

  •  Mokurai, fantastic writing, bravo/brava (0+ / 0-)

    imho, great read

    "Why can't we be friends (young republicans)?"  I'll give them three guesses, the first two don't count.

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