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Today in Bryan Fischer stupidity: On both his radio show and his OneNewsNow column, he DEFENDS ISIS's reasoning that the Yazidis are "devil worshippers."

The Raw Story:

Christian radio host Bryan Fischer is in agreement with the Muslim extremist group Islamic State (ISIS) that a minority religion in Iraq is made up of “devil worshippers.” And he’s irate that Presdient Barack Obama is authorizing a humanitarian mission to help the Yazidi people, who are stranded and dying of thirst after ISIS launched an attack on them, Right Wing Watch reported.

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According to the Christian Science Monitor, the Yazidis were not allowed the option given to Iraqi Christians of converting or paying a “tax” for practicing their faith. Instead, ISIS condemned the group to death.

“They consider us infidels so they are killing us and taking away the women,” Iraqi Parliament member Vian Dakhil, herself a Yazidi, was quoted as saying. Fischer apparently shared ISIS’ belief that the Yazidi religion’s emphasis on seven angels, including one who refused to bow to Adam, is an allusion to the devil.

Besides criticizing Obama on his radio show, Fischer also wrote an online column blasting the Yazidi faith.

Justin's Political Corner, via Right Wing Watch:
American Family Association spokesman Bryan Fischer is outraged that the U.S. is intervening in Iraq to stop ISIS, who has been attacking Christians and other Muslims throughout the country.

Fischer believes that President Obama only intervened to stop the extermination of the Yazidis, who practice an ancient religion yet are considered by ISIS fighters and others to be “devil worshipers.” He began today’s edition of “Focal Point” by railing against Obama, saying the president only decided to launch airstrikes in Iraq in order to defend “devil worshipers.”

“They go after devil worshipers and all of the sudden the entire weight of the United States government is sent in there to relieve them and to avenge them,” he said. “Those are the Yazidis.”
“In a rare point of theological accord, both Muslims and Christians agree that the archangel revered by the Yazidis is in fact the Prince of Darkness,” he writes in his column today. “The New Testament describes him this way," "Satan (who) disguises himself as an angel of light” (2 Cor. 11:14), eager to deceive the gullible into believing that he is good rather than evil. The Yazidis have fallen for his lies.”

Brandon Stephens (@iamredsky) says what needs to be said about Fischer and folks like him:

From the 08.08.2014 edition of AFR's Focal Point:

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  •  #weareallyazidis nt (9+ / 0-)

    "Get in the way. Create chaos. Cause trouble. " "On global warming there is no more time to change the Overton Window. We have to break it."

    by sturunner on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 03:24:52 PM PDT

    •  Fischer is the (low) price we pay for the 1st Amdt (10+ / 0-)

      I want these excuses for human beings in the open, where everyone has to  watch them.

      But only once.  .  .  .

      "Get in the way. Create chaos. Cause trouble. " "On global warming there is no more time to change the Overton Window. We have to break it."

      by sturunner on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 03:30:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  but puh-leeze save us from the... (9+ / 0-)

      ... pretentious "We Are All" crap.

      Pardon me for going into rant mode about this, and I'm sure you meant it in all innocence and good intent, as do most people who use it.  That said:

      We are NOT all Yazidis.

      You and I are not being chased up a mountain to die of thirst.

      You and I have computers and clean drinking water and food.

      You and I are not being pursued by genocidal monsters who are shooting bullets at us and can justly be compared to Nazis.

      I am so fucking sick of the pretentious "We Are All" meme that I could just spit.  

      That meme needs to die and be buried for once and for all.

      We need a new way of expressing empathy with others' suffering and support for their cause, that doesn't de-facto trivialize them or lay claim to undeserved status.  

      We got the future back. Uh-oh.

      by G2geek on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 04:05:48 PM PDT

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      •  When Diamanda Galas had her hand tattooed with (6+ / 0-)

        "We are all HIV+" it was to make a point like "I am Spartacus", that if everyone said they were, it wouldn't be possible to round them all up and segregate them.

        That said, I get your point.

        Inside of me are two dogs. One is mean and evil. The other is gentle and good. The two dogs fight all the time. Which dog wins? The one I feed the most.

        by bakeneko on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 04:30:21 PM PDT

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        •  She (3+ / 0-)
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          She could have just sung 'Everyone had AIDS' from Team America:World Police instead...

          Actually, do we have JFK to blame for this? #IchbineinBerliner?

          I don't know how I'm meant to act with all of you lot. Sometimes I don't try, I just na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na

          by Zornorph on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 05:38:59 PM PDT

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          •  it's one thing when a US President does it... (2+ / 0-)
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            ... in an international crisis.  Particularly because the power/status dynamic of that is:  leader of the free world identifying with a vast mass of Joe and Jane Randoms who are ordinary working stiffs.

            But that's an exception, and I doubt it's the root cause of the excesses of that meme on the left today.

            I had a similar reaction when everyone was spouting "We Are All (the name of that black teenager who was murdered by a racist creep who cited the "stand your ground" laws, curse my shitty memory for names)."  I wanted to shout "NO you aren't, you're still ALIVE dammit!"

            We got the future back. Uh-oh.

            by G2geek on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 06:44:26 PM PDT

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            •  It's better when those who are not pseudo- (0+ / 0-)

              identified with a victim support the victim.

              This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

              by JJustin on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 02:54:56 AM PDT

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          •  My husband and I have friends who are natives to (2+ / 0-)
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            Berlin.  They have always found that speech particularly funny because JFK said "Eich bin ein Berliner," which he meant to say, "I am a Berliner," but there was a doughnut shop in Berlin at the time and for many years after called, you guessed it, "Berliner."  So most people from Berlin who are old enough to remember this speech or have heard of it call it the "I am a doughnut" speech.

            Yes, that is the ironic sense of humor of most Berliners.

      •  #weareallsickofmemes (4+ / 0-)

        n/t

        I don't know how I'm meant to act with all of you lot. Sometimes I don't try, I just na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na

        by Zornorph on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 05:37:11 PM PDT

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      •  Sorry G2geek but I gotta disagree (0+ / 0-)

        We are all one as in human beings. If fellow human beings suffer it becomes my personal concern. If I can't afford to pay for their safety and well-being, I can at least pray for they are part of my human family. Doesn't it scrunch your stomach up when you see injustice human upon human, doesn't it bring a tear to your eye and cause your soul to weep. "We are all in this together", and we will pay if we aren't fighting night and day in our own special way to protect others suffering. "We are the world, we are the children ... " "Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another, right now, right now, right now." "If not us, than who?" We all need to care, be concerned, fight strongly where we can. I witness a pleasant August evening and feel grateful for the crickets cricking but I know in my heart I hear the bombings far, far away ...

      •  And the first to be upset about (0+ / 0-)

        "We are all Yazidis" would be the Yazidis, who are very much closed both as a society and as a religion.

  •  Regardless of what they worship and how (11+ / 0-)

    As long as they don't engage in human sacrifice, and there is no allegation that they do, then they have a right to practice and live by their religious beliefs, without being murdered by zealots.

    "Corporations exist not for themselves, but for the people." Ida Tarbell 1908.

    by Navy Vet Terp on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 03:26:39 PM PDT

    •  Only (0+ / 0-)

      Only Hamas engages in human sacrifice.

      I don't know how I'm meant to act with all of you lot. Sometimes I don't try, I just na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na

      by Zornorph on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 05:39:57 PM PDT

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      •  You are blinded by your hatred ... (2+ / 0-)
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        You remind me of an old friend who truly believes that Palestinians are below contempt and should all die. You are part of the problem.

        Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

        by kbman on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 01:42:34 AM PDT

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      •  I think Israel is superior in its abilities to (0+ / 0-)

        engage in human sacrfice, so long as those humans aren't Israeli.

        This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

        by JJustin on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 02:57:30 AM PDT

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      •  Zornorph - shame on you! (0+ / 0-)

        Everyone of us have engaged in human sacrifice in one form of another. What about battering and murdering of our spouses? What about our low income worker never able to make ends meet, prostituting themselves or their children to survive? "Only Hamas engages in human sacrifice"??? Did you hear of Genghis Khan? Hitler's SS?  Did you ever read about the witches of Salem or the Guatemalan death squads of the 70's or 80's or the killing fields of Cambodia??? Did you hear about sex trafficking children in this country right now? Do you ever hear of Israel's bombings or our own hitting fellow human beings with soft pillows just to get their attention?? Our daughters are raped in India and New York City alike without any legal recourse. Really, I mean, really??? Hamas is not the problem; it's the greed in human hearts minus the love and integrity this world does not have enough of.

  •  I'm actually surprised it took him 24 hours... (11+ / 0-)

    Predicted this yesterday.

    What an evil, illiterate, scum-sucking pile of virus-infested shit.

    Inside of me are two dogs. One is mean and evil. The other is gentle and good. The two dogs fight all the time. Which dog wins? The one I feed the most.

    by bakeneko on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 03:54:08 PM PDT

    •  Ooh, SCORE! We need a prediction registry here. (6+ / 0-)

      A place where people can post predictions about relevant trends, news items, etc.  Perhaps a daily diary that just automatically runs every day.  

      For each prediction, the person should say something about how they got it: subject-matter expertise, extensive reading of news, intuitive conclusion based on general background knowledge, saw it in a dream, whatever.  

      People get points for accurate predictions.  More points if the prediction doesn't have obvious causal factors, and more points if it's highly specific.  

      Over time, there would emerge a group of people here with recognized predictive skills.

      That would be highly useful for a number of reasons:

      1)  Obvious application to elections.  The ability to predict trends and make accurate forecasts is vital to focusing GOTV efforts and campaign support.

      2)  Potential national security and public safety applications.  "Trends X and Y are converging to produce an increased probability of outcome Z" could put new threats on the radar so they can be dealt with.

      3)  The Koch Bros and various other enemies of ours all have think-tanks full of people who are highly paid to make predictions.  We need something like that.  Crowd-sourced unpaid prediction, refined over time via rewards for accurate hits, is a potentially viable route to similar outcomes.  

      We got the future back. Uh-oh.

      by G2geek on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 04:24:00 PM PDT

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      •  I predict (2+ / 0-)
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        That next there will be a conspiracy theory that Obama put the Yazidis on the mountain top as an excuse to attack Iraq, to distract us from (generic scandal). Sorry, I can't think of the scandal right now, maybe Boner suing him? Nah ... Something else.

        “Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.” ― George Carlin

        by NotYerX on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:09:21 PM PDT

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        •  I can hear the voice of "God" in this, through (0+ / 0-)

          Moses, or Abraham, directing --

          "Go to the mountain top!"

          Oops -- wrong "religion".

          This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

          by JJustin on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 03:00:56 AM PDT

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      •  I think there's an algorithm for that. Called (0+ / 0-)

        hate-radio.

        This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

        by JJustin on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 02:59:40 AM PDT

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  •  American "Family" Association? (7+ / 0-)

    Just... wow. These people are completely deranged if they even hesitate kicking this guy's butt to the curb.

    Freedom isn't free. That's why we pay taxes.

    by walk2live on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 03:54:11 PM PDT

  •  It's sadly funny (8+ / 0-)

    that most of Christianity, its theology, varieties and vast percentage of its adherents, lives and were developed in Egypt and the Near and Middle East until the seventh century. With the Arab  Muslim conquests ended this religious ferment. The remnants or these groups remained in the conquered lands including the Thomistic sects, Johanine sects (not Christian), Nestorian, Coptic, Syrian and other Christian groups as well as syncretic groups like the Yazidis whose belief system is a combination of Jewish, Muslim, Christian Zoroastrian, and Gnostic (Manichean) beliefs. The Gnostic (Manichean) view of a dualistic world of the light and the darkness probably caused them to be referred to as devil worshippers. (Note: Islam itself could be considered as a syncretic religion born from this ferment.)  

    Western Christianity was merely a backward if relatively numerous sect that fortunately (for them) was spared Islamic conquest.  

    •  My Yezidi friends tell me (0+ / 0-)

      That Yezidi predate Jews by a thousand years or so. Many of those so-called  'Jewish and Christian' religious beliefs that the Yeizidi hold largely pre-date Judaism (and especially Christianity).  

      The problem is the Yezidi, being a secret society that passed their religion down orally (and did not write it down - and did not even have their own alphabet until comparatively recently) don't have printed proof of their intellectual property.

      -- illegitimi non carborundum

      by BadBoyScientist on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 08:31:55 AM PDT

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  •  I wonder what Bryan Fischer would do to Yazidis... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...if they were here in a US governed by people like him.

    A million Arcosantis.

    by Villabolo on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 04:04:57 PM PDT

  •  so because he doesn't approve of their faith, they (4+ / 0-)

    should die of thirst & starvation???? Has this "Christian" read Matthew 25?

    •  This is the guy blaming Mikey W. for the AFA rape (2+ / 0-)
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      binges (sports teams mostly).

      Idjit ain't beginning to cover the evil this ... thing ... represents.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 06:55:09 PM PDT

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    •  anotherdemocrat (0+ / 0-)

      Thank-you for stating the obvious. This was my first thought after reading this article. Is this Christian (my faith life) to okay that people should be starved and deprived of water because they are purportedly "Satan worshipers". I am a Christian and like Christ in his day, I don't appreciate the religious leaders or loud-mouths who support hatred. Jesus went to the well and asked water from a woman from Samaria, a part of the country that did not welcome Jews. Jesus gratefully took the water from the woman and told her about grace and forgiveness.
      He told her what she really thirst for which was unconditional love, as she had many lovers from her past, a thirst that could only be quenched through faith. He spoke to an unattended female (something many faiths of today can not tolerate), recognized her as just as important as men (something many faiths of today can not tolerate), and informed her that all her sins were wiped away (something many faiths of today can not tolerate).

  •  Ironically, Fischer and the Yazidi (1+ / 0-)
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    have very similar opinions about gay people.

  •  Bryan Fischer in an abomination. (2+ / 0-)
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    “Judge: Are you trying to show contempt for this court? Mae West: I was doin' my best to hide it.” ― Mae West

    by Rogneid on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 04:35:07 PM PDT

  •  FFS. This guy has been off the rails... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...for a long time, but this latest outburst takes the cake.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 06:32:11 PM PDT

  •  wing nut religifakes should hate ISIS/L but... (3+ / 0-)
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    that would mean supporting Obama.

    A group that insists everyone in Iraq be a muslim and kills anyone who isn't would seem to be against the idea of free religion. And christianity, which most wingnut religifakes are fans of, is not on ISIS/L's love it list.

    But being even faintly pro Obama is yet again far too much for this crowd of clowns and GOP embarrassments. So they support the group that would kill christians who practice christianity instead.

    Haven't heard from Reince Priebus lately, have we.

    cheerleaders need not apply.

    by kravitz on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 07:38:00 PM PDT

  •  Fischer is running up a pretty high karmic tab. (2+ / 0-)
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    One day, he'll have to pay up.

    Supple and turbulent, a ring of men/ Shall chant in orgy on a summer morn...

    by karmsy on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 07:40:08 PM PDT

  •  I would like to hear Obama come out strongly (2+ / 0-)
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    against self-mutilation with a rusty chainsaw, because I think I know what Bryan Fischer's next act would involve.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 04:42:39 AM PDT

  •  To be fair, he's not defending ISIS (1+ / 0-)
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    Or advocating the US abandon the Yazidis.  Really don't care much about his view of the Yazidi religion.  Instead, he's just be his usual garden variety prickish self and making an asshole point about how Obama didn't intervene earlier when Iraqi Christians were under siege.

    "President Obama will fight for Satan worshippers, but he will not fight for Christians.  He will use the might of the United States military...yada...yada."

    "Now I'm not criticizing President Obama for providing relief for these people....[h]e will not, and has not lifted a finger to help Christians."

    This is of course bullshit.  This operation does not exclusively relieve pressure from the Yazidis trapped at Sinjar; it is the opening phase of operations supporting peshmerga to roll up  the genocidal Caliphate forces bearing down on all of Northern Iraq.  

  •  If you find yourself agreeing with ISIS, (1+ / 0-)
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    time to rethink whatever the hell it was you were thinking.  

  •  He will? (1+ / 0-)
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    Obama protects devil worshipers? Does that include Teabaggers and the Radical Religious Right?

  •  As I understand the First Amendment, one not only (0+ / 0-)

    is free not to believe a certain way, but also to believe anything one wants, which should include the right to worship the "Devil".

    We don't actually have any proof that there's a "Devil" -- the history of the concept shows a primitive realization of a force termed "evil," which evolved through thousands of years from a vague unconceptualized notion to an increasingly concrete, human-like being.  Sorta like the image of "God" as an old kindly unshaven authoritarian Monarch sitting on a King's throne, and carrying a walking stick with which to wack lesser humans for not following orders.

    (Evil: those who believe differently than I.)

    Twain pointed to the injustice shown the "Devil" -- "Satan":

    "All religions issue bibles against him, but we never hear His side.  It's unEnglish!  It's unAmerican!  It's French."

    And of the fact that Satan seems about as civilized as any of the rest of us:

    "Any creature who holds sway over three-fourths of the human race, and over the political head of the whole of it, must have executive abilities."

    And along the lines of his "Heaven for climate, Hell for society" --

    "I would rather meet Him and shake him by the tail than any other statesman on the planet.  And probably will."

    This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

    by JJustin on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 02:51:52 AM PDT

  •  Please stop calling them "Devil Worshipers" (0+ / 0-)

    Is a derogatory label applied to Yezidi by their enemies who used it to justify hatred and intolerance.  The basis of this claim comes from coincidences in their myths (one set of myths came along much, much later so may not be quite so coincidental).

    From WikiPedia

    The reason for the Yazidis reputation of being devil worshipers is connected to the name of Melek Taus, by Arabs called Shaytan, the same name the Koran has for Satan and identified in Bible as the same. But there is little suggesting that the Yazidis worship Malak Ta'us as if he were equal to the Koran's or the Bible's devil.

    The Yazidi story regarding Tawûsê Melek's rise to favor with God is almost identical to the story of the devil Shaitan in Islam (emphasis added), except that Yazidis revere Tawûsê Melek for refusing to submit to God by bowing to Adam, while Muslims believe that Satan's refusal to submit caused him to fall out of Grace with God, and to later become the ultimate corrupter.

    Calling Yezidi "Devil Worshipers" makes about as much sense as calling the Greeks "Devil Worshipers!"    Recall the Greeks thought Prometheus was a good guy for bringing fire/light to humans from the gods ... kinda how Lucifer (Light-Bearer) brought enlightenment of good & evil to humans.  

    Let's stop using that ugly label.  It is offensive and insulting like the N-word but with added moral condemnation.

    -- illegitimi non carborundum

    by BadBoyScientist on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 09:15:30 AM PDT

    •  BadBoyScientist (0+ / 0-)

      You're right - point well made! I believe in Science and God. I believe God created Science as in all other things ... you can believe what you like, we would probably agree more than we disagree.

  •  Bryan Fischer should go join ISIS then (0+ / 0-)

    Anyone who supports this hideous genocidal group is a disgrace.

    If you refuse to vote for the Democrat in a Presidential general election, then I hold you personally responsible for any right-wing Supreme Court decision.

    by USA629 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 at 03:37:50 PM PDT

  •  Christian Preacher's comments (0+ / 0-)

    I am so sick of these perverts. That's what I call them. They have perverted the Christian religion by claiming to be Christians and at the same time spouting crap like this--very similar to the perverts of Islam. I see no difference. Taliban or Christian Taliban, as someone who views the world through the crystal clear lens of atheism, I see them for what they are: Nazis, deceivers, and hypocrites.  Make no mistake about it, in another time and place this guy would be helping to hunt down and kill these poor humans too.  I wonder if he has asked himself, "What would Jesus say about saving these people?"

  •  "Christian" of him (0+ / 0-)

    to call for the annihilation of the last people on Earth who speak Aramaic, Jesus' native tongue.

    Banana Republic: it's not just a clothing store.

    by northbronx on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 12:25:57 PM PDT

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