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The "coup" against Maliki is a political coup, with Maliki's fellow Shiites turning against him.

Maliki responded with calling in the military to protect him in his position, which would be a "counter coup," a well-known concept. He is also trying to block the government from replacing him, also a counter coup. This isn't rocket science.

Widely accused of a partisan obstinacy that has fueled the communal violence tearing Iraq apart, the Shi'ite Muslim premier went on television late on Sunday to denounce the ethnic Kurdish president for delaying the constitutional process of naming him prime minister following a parliamentary election in late April.

But fellow Shi'ites nominated Haider al-Abadi, a long-time Maliki ally, in his place as the struggle for the premiership descended into judicial wrangling and a power play on the streets of the beleaguered capital, where militias and special forces seen as loyal to Maliki took up strategic positions.

http://www.reuters.com/...

Again, Maliki responded by calling in the military to block this "political coup" from being formalized, and to protect himself from the backlash that will happen when his political allies realize he is seizing power outside the "existing government" structure, the classical definition of a coup, see at bottom for definition.

Special forces teams and army tanks surrounded the Green Zone housing Iraq’s government as Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki fiercely clung to power Sunday, taking the stability of the country to the brink at a moment when it is already facing a lethal challenge from radical Islamist fighters.

In actions that had all the markings of a political coup, Maliki gave a defiant late-night speech in Baghdad saying he would lodge a legal case against the country’s president, who has resisted naming him as the candidate for another term as prime minister.

Tanks rumbled onto major bridges and roads in the capital as security forces were put on high alert, with militiamen also patrolling Shiite neighborhoods. The special forces teams surrounding the Green Zone were taking orders directly from the prime minister, security officials said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Bolded because some diarist is trying to say there aren't reports of a coup.

I would like to know the motives of the diarist who is trying to downplay what is happening in Iraq?

Full Definition of COUP D'ÉTAT
:  a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics; especially :  the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group
http://www.merriam-webster.com/...

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  •  No , its a convertible (4+ / 0-)

    made by sawzalling off the top .

    "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

    by indycam on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 07:38:18 AM PDT

    •  am i supposed to be amused? (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Lets argue over the label that (3+ / 0-)

        should or should not be applied to what is happening in Iraq .
        Cause the label is what is important .

        "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

        by indycam on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 07:41:53 AM PDT

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        •  ah (1+ / 0-)
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          lunachickie

          now maybe it is a coup and subsequent counter coup. but that label isn't important.

          so then what is important?

          •  "what is important?" (1+ / 0-)
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            JackND

            Who does what , how they do it , who gets hurt , who gains power , who loses power , how one group or the other tries to ...
            Etc Etc Etc .

            "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

            by indycam on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 07:51:00 AM PDT

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            •  "how they do it" is important huh? (1+ / 0-)
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              lunachickie

              so then this political coup followed by counter coup (maliki calling in military) is important.

              strange how you just supported my argument that calling this what it is, a political coup followed by a counter coup, is indeed important news.

              •  The whole is it or is it not a "coup" (0+ / 0-)

                is a distraction .

                "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

                by indycam on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 08:13:31 AM PDT

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                •  Tell that to the diarist (2+ / 0-)
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                  Dissentinator, Bob Love

                  who started waving it around to distract from last night's diary calling this shit exactly what it is.

                  "Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

                  by lunachickie on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 08:23:10 AM PDT

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                  •  I read that other diary yesterday . (2+ / 0-)
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                    wilderness voice, ColoTim

                    The whole back and forth on its a coup / its not a coup , is a distraction .
                    I was teaching a group of technicians how to write a flow chart for a machine , we came to a part and no one could come up with a good technical name for it , I looked at our Violet and asked her to give it a name , she said rosebud .
                    So we built a flow chart with all the standard machine part names and one in the middle called rosebud .

                    "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

                    by indycam on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 08:33:18 AM PDT

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                    •  It's relevant, whether it's a "distraction" or not (0+ / 0-)

                      Today's diarist cites zero-nada-nothing to back it up anyway. If nothing else, last night's diary at  least had credible sources linked in abundance.
                       

                      "Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

                      by lunachickie on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 08:47:07 AM PDT

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              •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

                I'd drop a donut on it for trying to weasel your discussion off-track straightaway, but they did such an abysmally bad job of it, it needs to be seen ;)

                "Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

                by lunachickie on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 08:24:47 AM PDT

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              •  dude (1+ / 0-)
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                Bob Love

                the "political coup" you are referring to is just standard, legal parliamentary procedure. Your ignorance is showing.

                •  You just can't make an argument (0+ / 0-)

                  without insulting someone, can you?

                  Your ignorance is showing.

                  "Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

                  by lunachickie on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 09:15:35 AM PDT

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                •  which Maliki responded with counter coup (0+ / 0-)

                  so therefore WaPo, in their ignorance according to you, called it a "political coup"...

                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

                  your desperation to keep your bad argument going is showing.

                  •  except... (0+ / 0-)

                    there they're referring to Maliki's actions as a "political coup," not the president's, contary to what you say here.

                    And again, they don't say any kind of coup occurred, they are careful to hedge it with "had all the markings of a political coup" rather than state that it's happened as gjohnsit did. There's a reason they put that phrase in there.

                    •  we'll see (0+ / 0-)

                      if our friend gjohnsit was right or not.

                      inherently, a coup is confusing so you call it that by the signs of it...

                      in thailand, it wasn't known for sure that a coup had occurred until the military admitted it days later.

                      so if people just sat around and speculated whether maliki's actions represent a coup or not, like you would prefer, the thing could be done and over and Maliki becomes the new Saddam....

                      on the other hand, if people call what looks and smells like a coup a coup, maybe Maliki will be stopped from his power grab.

                      look how similar this timeline looks... starting with televised address....

                      11:40:

                      Dramatic developments in Thailand as the army chief gives a televised address to say the military has seized power, intending to restore order and enact political reforms.
                      Army chief
                      11:41:

                      Moments before, soldiers sealed off the venue in Bangkok where political factions had been holding talks for a second day and took away the leaders.
                      11:43:

                      Thailand has suffered months of political turmoil, which earlier this month culminated in the court-ordered removal of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra for alleged abuse of power.

                      http://www.bbc.com/...
                      •  too stubborn to admit you were wrong, I guess (0+ / 0-)

                        We are discussing your claim that the selection of a new PM represented a "political coup," which you again repeated just two comments ago. I've asked you what you meant by that, seeing how selecting a new PM was the letter of the law, which by definition a coup is not.

                        The idea that standard parliamentary procedure (followed by parliaments around the world) is a coup of any kind tells me you really have no idea what you're talking about.

                •  Since when (0+ / 0-)

                  does a "standard, legal parliamentary procedure" involve military forces?
                     And why is Kerry threatening Maliki "not to make any trouble" if we are still talking about a "standard, legal parliamentary procedure"?

                  "The oppressors most powerful weapon is the mind of the oppressed." - Stephen Biko

                  by gjohnsit on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 10:01:44 AM PDT

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                  •  i was referring to the pres' actions (0+ / 0-)

                    which gnosticator has termed a "political coup." Do you agree with his assesment?

                    Constitutional crises of all kinds do not reach the level of coup. You have repeatedly misrepresented your sources. Not a single actual news agency says a coup has occurred, as you do. They are all much more careful to use qualifying terms like "the markings of" and so on. Why is that?

  •  It looks like Maliki is done... (3+ / 0-)
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    Superpole, gnosticator, gjohnsit

    all that's left is the hangman...if he doesn't relent.

  •  Ask yourself (3+ / 0-)
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    don mikulecky, gnosticator, gjohnsit

    what is there to be gained by downplaying this as a 'coup'?

    Make a list ;)

    Seriously, thanks for pointing this out. That diary trying to nitpick the word "coup" to death is a distraction that has zero--nothing, zip, nada--in the way of links to back anything up.

    "Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

    by lunachickie on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 08:22:13 AM PDT

    •  I can the reason for some pushback (1+ / 0-)
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      because Maliki hasn't actually seized power yet.
        But with the obvious strong-arm approach that Maliki has taken and the fact that everyone in Baghdad is nervous about a coup, I don't understand the purpose of the extremely nasty response to my dairy. It was very mean-spirited. Almost like there was something personal involved.

      "The oppressors most powerful weapon is the mind of the oppressed." - Stephen Biko

      by gjohnsit on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 10:04:44 AM PDT

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      •  That's just it (1+ / 0-)
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        gjohnsit

        it might actually be personal to the diarist, but how does anyone know who anyone else really is around here? I don't. So what I look at next is "links". His had none. Yours had a bunch. Whether I agreed with all of them or not isn't really the point--the point is, yours was based on something besides your own opinion.

        The nastiness speaks for itself.

        "Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

        by lunachickie on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 10:35:10 AM PDT

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  •  Latest NY Times (1+ / 0-)
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    gnosticator

    link

     Whether Mr. Maliki will accept someone else from his bloc in the top spot remains unclear.
       “The risk is, if he clings to power, he will control the country by force,” said another senior Iraqi politician. “This would be a military coup.”
    ...
      If Mr. Maliki were to call on the Iraqi Army to back his effort to stay in power, he could face resistance from one or several of the many militia groups that have close ties to political parties.
      “We’re all worried about a coup d'état,” said Gen. Halgurd Hikmet, the chief spokesman for the Kurdish fighters in Iraq, known as pesh merga. “Maliki has to know that we have two major units of our troops guarding the Parliament and the Defense Ministry,” he said referring to the Kurdish division of the Iraqi Army.
    ...
      Whether Badr fighters back Mr. Maliki or move against him could help determine whether he survives in office.
       It was not clear whether any of these militias would take action, but the potential for clashes is real, several people said.
    The only question here is whether Maliki is bluffing or not. We'll probably know before the day is out.

    "The oppressors most powerful weapon is the mind of the oppressed." - Stephen Biko

    by gjohnsit on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 09:57:48 AM PDT

  •  A legal filing is not a coup, not even (0+ / 0-)

    if a media outlet wants it to be one.

    Dick Cheney 2/14/10: "I was a big supporter of waterboarding"

    by Bob Love on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 10:38:34 AM PDT

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