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White rage recurs in American history. It exploded after the Civil War, erupted again to undermine the Supreme Court’sBrown v. Board of Education decision and took on its latest incarnation with Barack Obama’s ascent to the White House. For every action of African American advancement, there’s a reaction, a backlash.
That is a key quote from Ferguson isn’t about black rage against cops. It’s white rage against progress., an op ed in today's Washington Post by Carol Anderson, an associate professor of African American studies and history at Emory University and a public voices fellow with the Op-Ed Project.

My sole purpose in posting this diary is to draw attention to that op ed.

I have little to add to her analysis, which is superb, which reminds us how often this has happened after what appears to be advances for African-Americans:

- post-Reconstruction with Southern states restricting and diminishing rights of Blacks
- Post -Brown with the Southern Manifesto
- post-2012 election of Obama with new efforts at voter suppression

There is more, much more in the history.

There is the economic impact of the Great Recession, which has fallen far more heavily on minority communities.

To which I would add the attacks on public schools, largely those that serve minorities, especially African-Americans (think Detroit or DC or Philadelphia or Camden or Newark).

Had I any doubt about the importance of this op-ed, it ended when I read the final two paragraphs, one long, one very brief, so below the fold I will end with those:

So when you think of Ferguson, don’t just think of black resentment at a criminal justice system that allows a white police officer to put six bullets into an unarmed black teen. Consider the economic dislocation of black America. Remember a Florida judge instructing a jury to focus only on the moment when George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin interacted, thus transforming a 17-year-old, unarmed kid into a big, scary black guy, while the grown man who stalked him through the neighborhood with a loaded gun becomes a victim. Remember the assault on the Voting Rights Act. Look at Connick v. Thompson, a partisan 5-4 Supreme Court decision in 2011 that ruled it was legal for a city prosecutor’s staff to hide evidence that exonerated a black man who was rotting on death row for 14 years. And think of a recent study by Stanford University psychology researchers concluding that, when white people were told that black Americans are incarcerated in numbers far beyond their proportion of the population, “they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities,” such as three-strikes or stop-and-frisk laws.

Only then does Ferguson make sense. It’s about white rage.

Read the op-ed.

Pass it on.

Originally posted to teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 04:16 AM PDT.

Also republished by Barriers and Bridges.

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  •  Pew this week--Data drive the anger (45+ / 0-)

    The majority of children in the nation's public schools are non-European (aka "non white" but I don't like melanin as a category.)

    Last week: The majority of people in the red states below the Mason-Dixon line are poor. (You see what voting GOP gets you!)

    This upheaval is being driven by the census. White privilege no longer exists. Hoarding guns and ammo will not make it persist. Putting bumper stickers on your car and pulling the signs out of someone else's lawn may help you maintain your delusion for another few months.

    But this nation isn't white, European any more (if, in fact it ever was) and success can only be achieved by hard work, not cultural bias and privilege.

    In places like Ferguson white men have clustered to try to maintain what they call order, but it's really their order on the social totem pole. They have to be above someone to feel validated.

    •  I had not thought about it before (60+ / 0-)

      but Anderson's mentioning the Massive Resistance - which in Virginia led to shutting down some school districts rather than let them integrate - and the loss of education for a generation of African-American students (here think of how whites withdrew from public schools and tax dollars were cut for the black schools) and how lack of meaningful education connects heavily with the chances of  being arrested and the increasing number of black males who thereby are denied future meaningful employment and are disenfranchised.  Think of the number of families that thereby get broken.

      We are seeing aspects of it again.  

      And yes, we here are all aware of the racial dimension to the explosive opposition to Obama.

      I thought this op ed crammed a LOT into a small space.

      "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

      by teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 04:36:06 AM PDT

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      •  Had a long talk with a Virginian on Tuesday (17+ / 0-)

        We talked about "Deer Hunting with Jesus" and the Scotts-Irish anti-government tradition in the rural areas. We talked about resistance to education and how education really represented government tyranny there.

        It's not so much opposition to Obama as opposition to losing one's own privilege. If a company hired one token black employee, it wouldn't be threatening. But when the black President comes at the same time that whites become the minority, the world seems to be coming apart to the insecure.

        •  as a Virginian I am going to disagree (18+ / 0-)

          I think back to the development of the Massive Resistance movement, fueled as if with gasoline by columns in the Richmond paper written by the late James Jackson Kilpatrick.

          What you had was a deliberate attempt by elites to focus anger on Blacks and use that as a means of consolidating power and wealth.

          The Byrd machine in Virginia wanted to suppress all lower class voters, for example.

          And for what it is worth, the idea of white resentment against Blacks is something noted quite some time before by one of our most astute social commentators, Samuel Langhorne Clemens aka Mark Twain.  I remember as a young person in the 1950s being struck a passage in Huckleberry Finn

          "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

          by teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 04:51:05 AM PDT

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          •  Not true about the Byrd machine (6+ / 0-)

            It depended on the votes of lower class whites. It wasn't really about wealth, it was about racism.

            And disenfranchising blacks was considered a progressive accomplishment in the first decade of the 20th century. The "machine" (controlled then by Sen. Thomas S. Martin) actually had nothing to do with that act, which was accomplished by the Virginia Constitutional Convention of 1901-1902 under the leadership of the progressive Governor Andrew Jackson Montague.

            Montague was one of three non-machine governors between 1886 and 1970; the others were Westmoreland Davis (1918-1921) and James Price (1938-1942). Montague was also the first Virginia governor since the Civil War not to have served in the Confederate Army. He would eventually make peace with the machine and serve in congress for over two decades.

            Another progressive racist who helped to disenfranchise blacks, Carter Glass, would also make peace with the machine and serve for many years in the house and Senate; he played very significant roles in creating the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation; he is the Glass on the Glass-Steagall Act.

        •  I think it's more about a sub-conscious (13+ / 0-)

          consensus which asserted that "if they want to be equal, let them be equally deprived," and discovered that this deprivation could be surreptitiously accomplished by just rationing the currency and handing the keys to the Treasury to the financiers.

          The reason there is so much antagonism to Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare and now the ACA is because these programs distribute dollars directly to people and service providers, by-passing the banksters and Wall Street. Moreover, although the health insurance industry still funnels profits to Wall Street, the cap on profits and the obligation to return excess premium payments to the subscribers is limiting the quantity of dollars flowing into the banks. There's a reason banks are still going belly up and bankers are talking about going back to the dull enterprise focused on accounting that banking once was.
          For some, the float provided by direct deposit was obviously not compensation enough.
          Of course, if Congress wanted to increase the rate at which the dollar courses through the economy, all it has to do is amend the tax code to collect revenue more reliably and quickly, instead of promoting hoarding, which is what rationing anything always does.

        •  A lot of white folk have guilty consciences and (0+ / 0-)

          are afraid that the Golden Rule is going to come back and bite them, hard. That they will be treated as they treated others.

          I think that's where a fair amount of the fear is rooted.

          Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
          ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

          by FarWestGirl on Tue Sep 02, 2014 at 04:22:47 AM PDT

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      •  You overstate (1+ / 0-)
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        Four school districts in Virginia closed. But three were only for one semester. Only in small Prince Edward County, where schools were closed for four years, can you say "loss of education for a generation" and that was actually after massive resistance had been ended by the Virginia Supreme Court.

        A better case could be made that the inferior segregated schools that had existed for generations were a loss of education.

        Interestingly, the segregation academy that had been formed in 1959 to offer education to white, but not black, students in Prince Edward County now accepts black students.

        •  yes I can say because of how resources were (13+ / 0-)


          Virginia was not as bad as Mississippi or Alabama.

          But even to close schools for a semester is to cause major disruption to the education of children.

          And while the 1954 Brown decision in theory ended segregation in schools, in practicality it took much longer for changes to take place.  The 1955 Brown II decision said that desegregation would occur "with all deliberate speed" and for most of the South, including Virginia, the emphasis became the penultimate word.

          That is why you had Little Rock.

          That is why when the elected Arlington VA school board voted to desegregate the Commonwealth stripped the County of the power to elect school board members.

          Oh, and Arlington did its first desegregation in February of 1959, almost 5 full years after the first Brown decision was issued.  Later that same day 17 students integrated a school in Norfolk.

          More generally for Virginia, the State General Assembly had passed a law that was overturned which has been the basis of closing the schools, whereupon  the General Assembly repealed the compulsory school attendance law and made the operation of public schools a local option for the state's counties and cities.   That led to Prince Edward County deciding on May 1 to close its public schools rather than integrate - the other districts that had been closed (Front Royal, Charlottesville, and Norfolk had chosen integrated public schools over no schools.

          But consider the closing of white schools and selling the buildings and equipment to private White "christian" academies in MS.  Consider that schools in the black belt of Alabama as late as 1995-96 when I began teaching had American History textbooks which did not yet have man walking on the Moon, an event that had occurred in 1969.

          I think my comments about a generation are not off the mark, given the totality of what occurred.  

          "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

          by teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:20:16 AM PDT

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          •  School segregation never ended. (13+ / 0-)

            It went into remission for a while, but various sleazy tactics by racists have made it a statistical reality again. There are a huge number of schools in the U.S. with extremely slanted racial composition.

            •  One Could Say (6+ / 0-)

              The courts' attempt to achieve desegregation through busing in the in early 70's could be pointed to as the moment when Nixon's southern strategy began to pay off- in the North. Nixon would not be the beneficiary of this but St Ronnie surely did.

              The white rage that busing set off (I remember the vicious attacks staged by white parents against African American students coming into their neighborhoods) in cities like Boston almost resulted in race riots. Busing was an honest effort to achieve what couldn't be done naturally since cities had been so segregated for so long there wasn't really any other way to achieve desegregation. Take Los Angeles for example when everything along a 10 mile corridor west from downtown to Culver City and south to include everything to the city limits' edge were where all African Americans were accommodated with the huge influx of labor for the war time industries. Everything residential along that corridor north of there had written into the property deeds restrictions against whom you could and could not sell your property to. Rentals were a matter of "de facto" segregation. That corridor today is bisected by the western end of Interstate 10 and is still very much segregated as are its schools.

              This was not uncommon in most large northern cities by the mid twentieth century. Starting with the war industries of WWI and the consumer boom of the 1920's, large numbers of African Americans migrated up from the deep south lured by the promise of decent jobs and if there was racism, which there was throughout the country, at least for the most part you wouldn't be getting lynched with some notable exceptions.

              This past history all set the stage for the busing of the 70's which ended in disaster for everyone involved. There is one way schools can be improved which is the very least we could do to short of straight up integration which isn't going to happen. The archaic funding model for public schools has to change. Tying the schools' operating funds to the neighborhood's property taxes is a recipe for continuing inequality in education. Obviously poorer neighborhoods are going to have far less money to work with than a well off white neighborhood.

              What needs to be done is all the funding sources utilized now should be put into a state wide pool and divvied up on a per capita/COL basis. Let's say you have school district a and district b. A has 1,000 elementary students, 500 middle school students and 1,200 High School students for a total 2,700 students. Simply establish how much the annual cost per student each level of education costs and then fund to that. Also establish what those costs are in non-metropolitan areas and in metropolitan areas and fund based on that. It's a very simple way to budget and is completely fair, ensuring all students have the opportunity of the best education possible.

              But of course the reason funding is tied to the neighborhood is yet another way to impede upward mobility, leaving the poorest students to remain in the poorest schools while ensuring the upper class can maintain its position. The uppermost classes of course will continue their usual schemes to maintain their status, private "Academies" and Universities where being a "legacy" (like the execrable Bushes) will get you right in but being a brilliant kid from a very poor family isn't enough, not nearly so no matter what kind of brains you have and even if you count scholarship funds to level the affordability of the top notch private University, there's still loads of hoops you'll need to jump through to even get considered. Denying superior education to the brightest is a crime against the future of this country as is the denial of a good education to the average which is also a crime against the future of the individual, condemned to a life steeped not in knowledge but in ignorance which in turn limits the economic activity that person is able to generate as an average working person.

              This country benefits from educating each of its citizens to the best of their ability to learn. Only then is the economic activity that person can generate maximized. Only through economic activity can this nation grow and provide even greater educational opportunities and from this educational activity comes the bright people whom we will need to solve the vast problems facing us all.

              In short, it's simply stupid and short-sighted to deny or limit anyone's opportunity to gain a top-notch education. Doing so may very well cost us more dearly than we can imagine in both the short and the long run of it.

              "Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat 11th grade"

              by Dave925 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 01:52:59 PM PDT

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              •  Bah. (0+ / 0-)
                What needs to be done is all the funding sources utilized now should be put into a state wide pool and divvied up on a per capita/COL basis. Let's say you have school district a and district b. A has 1,000 elementary students, 500 middle school students and 1,200 High School students for a total 2,700 students. Simply establish how much the annual cost per student each level of education costs and then fund to that. Also establish what those costs are in non-metropolitan areas and in metropolitan areas and fund based on that. It's a very simple way to budget and is completely fair, ensuring all students have the opportunity of the best education possible
                Sorry. Maryland does this ... So called mandatory maintenance of effort, with a formula-driven approach that penalizes small counties/small districts with declining enrollment.

                Counties and Baltimore are essentially told how much they have to come up with, and set tax rates from there.

                Of course there are other fudge funding tweaks, of course, but that's the gist.

                And there's a stupidity quotient built into the law a few years ago ... All counties have to come up to a statewide average INCREASE or, i believe its called, "enhanced MOE." Since there's no mechanism for decrease, state school budgets will chase infinity, driven by the larger counties' spending.

                Don't thank me. Thank our legislative geniuses and the state education bureaucracy.

                Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

                by dadadata on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:51:08 PM PDT

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    •  There is white privilege because Trayvon (36+ / 0-)

      Martin& all the others are dead. Most of their murderers are free.

      The "law", due process & RKBA are for white peopld only. America hates a lot of people but it has created special hell for black people that goes on today.

      1865 = 2014

      I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

      by a2nite on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 04:48:16 AM PDT

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    •  What?? (8+ / 0-)
      White privilege no longer exists.
      and success can only be achieved by hard work,
      again ... seriously?

      99% of "success" is this country is inherited. For those born poor, hard work and staying within the rules has a very low chance of resulting in getting ahead.

    •  Um (6+ / 0-)
      White privilege no longer exists
      Come again?

      Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole. - Ta-Nehisi Coates

      by moviemeister76 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:49:24 AM PDT

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  •  We're hopefully moving towards a society where (6+ / 0-)

    everyone actually matters, not just white people with guns.

    Not very gracefully, however.

    My idea of the ideal GOP speech invariably involves negligent intoxication together with huffing helium for that special vocal nuance.

    by Superskepticalman on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 04:27:04 AM PDT

    •  No we're not because many in the (7+ / 0-)

      white sect are happy with things the way they are & many black people just don't know what to do.

      I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

      by a2nite on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 04:55:07 AM PDT

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    •  Oh, black people matter, all right. (5+ / 0-)

      They serve as whipping posts.

      Assault, after all, except when directed at an officer of the law, is a misdemeanor. The line between assault and discipline is hard to define and judges, being of an authoritarian bent, tend to make common cause with the disciplinarian.

    •  if we are, it's because the old WASP ruling class (12+ / 0-)

      is dying off and being replaced by a more diverse America, and also because (hopefully) more young people are more accustomed to racial and cultural diversity. Not because they've suddenly seen the light.

      Demography is the great bringer of change. Why do you think the right harps endlessly about immigration? It's eroding their power. They're afraid of being outvoted, which is why they're trying to disenfranchise as many non-whites as they can. Obama heralded the rise of a new coalition depending heavily on ethnic minorities. Had the Democratic party seized their chance to cement this coalition, the Republicans would be finished for the next twenty years.

      The old WASP ruling class just isn't able to breed fast enough to counter the growth of the non-white population. What's more, their kids are usually somewhat less racist. Their kids move to the big city looking for jobs (there are no jobs in small towns), they learn that black people don't have horns and tails like mommy and daddy taught them. Not to mention the Internet, which allows you to learn what life is like on the other side of the world.

      The New Deal coalition was an uneasy compromise between urban immigrants and good ol' Southern boys. This fragile coalition was shattered when the Democratic party decisively sided with minorities by passing the Civil Rights Acts and since then the Republicans have successfully been the party of white male resentment. Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I were all elected by appealing to WASP rage. Bush II ran the same kind of campaign, but he required help from SCOTUS--a sign that things were starting to change even then.

      If it's ever cemented, the new Democratic coalition won't need to make the same compromises on racial issues that FDR, Truman, and JFK did. That's what really scares the shit out of the teabaggers.

      When Open Carry talks about the importance of their right to carry, what they're saying is: we are willing and able to use force to stop the brown hordes from taking over God's country. And it's going to get worse unless people of good will unite against them.

      "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

      by limpidglass on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:55:11 AM PDT

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      •  did you read Piketty? (9+ / 0-)

        It seems from his book that inherited wealth is becoming more and more important in determining social strata.

        An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

        by mightymouse on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 08:29:42 AM PDT

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        •  And a lot of so-called, self made millionaires (0+ / 0-)

          and billionaires, got a huge leg up from wealthy parents and grandparents.  It's much easier to make your first billion when you have millions to work with!

          •  this is an issue Piketty addresses (0+ / 0-)

            where he talks about the concentration of capital through inheritance

            for what it is worth

            Bill Gates Sr. was fairly well off, which gave Bill Jr. the ability to explore

            Donald Trump's father was wealthy

            the Koch brothers had the wealth of their father Fred (who was a real right-wing crazy)

            the late Richard Mellon Scaife -well, his middle name tells you all you need to know

            Mitt Romney came from an elite background - Dad head of American Motors, Gov of MI and a cabinet secretary

            on the other hand, Warren Buffett came from a middle class family

            and I know of people who came from lower middle class or even working class background who became quite wealthy.

            "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

            by teacherken on Mon Sep 01, 2014 at 07:47:14 AM PDT

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    •  that would be nice (2+ / 0-)
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      NancyWH, zitherhamster

      otoh, we might be moving toward a society where only a few matter, and the rest of us are glorified peasants.

      An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

      by mightymouse on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 08:28:02 AM PDT

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    •  NO Because this is still too true!... (1+ / 0-)
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      Just came up on my playlist this AM...
      performed by Chad Mitchell Trio.. Your Friendly KKK

      and so VERY VERY TRUE!
      Your Friendly, Liberal, Neighborhood Ku-klux-klan Songtext

      Is there a klavern in your town? (In your town)
      If not, then why not have us down? (Have us down)

      You'll never recognize us, there's a smile upon our face
      We're changin' all our dirty sheets and a cleanin' up the place
      Yep, since we got a lawyer and a public relations man
      We're your friendly, liberal, neighborhood Ku Klux Klan

      Yes, we're your friendly, liberal, neighborhood Ku Klux Klan
      Ever since we got that lawyer and that public relations man
      'Cause we did shoot one reporter, but he was just obscene
      And you can't call us no filthy names - What does Anglo-Saxon mean?

      Allemande left, allemande right, the Ladies' Auxiliary is meetin' tonight
      'Cause the Klan's collected so much cash that now, by gum, we're rich white trash!

      Now, we've heard it said our leadership's not qualified to lead
      Well I'm tellin' you that just ain't true - Why three of them can read
      Take our Grand Exalted Dragon, now some folks think he's bad
      Well, you should meet his sweet old mother, and her brother, who's his dad

      Yes, they're your friendly, liberal, neighborhood Ku Klux Klan
      And he's gonna run for governor soon as he's out of the can
      We're all from fine old families, the pride of all these hills
      Yes, seven generations at the same old illegal stills

      Had a little rally the other night, shot up town in a fury
      Luke's arrested, Pa's on trial, and the rest of us are on the jury

      Now, we've heard them call us deadbeats, and we'd like to say we're not
      We'll all stand on our record, and that's one thing we've all got
      And we only have that arsenal so that you won't raise no fuss
      And if you don't like that, then call the cops, 'cause the chances are, they're us

      Yes we're your friendly, liberal, neighborhood Ku Klux Klan
      But somehow we went from the fire to the fryin' pan
      We never learned to hold a job, and we never learned to write
      But boy, we sure have learned the ropes, 'cause we use them every night

      Now, when Congress calls you, don't get stuck, just start confessin' and pass the buck
      The Kludd blames the Klaxon, the Klaxon blames the Kleagle, the Kleagle blames the Grand Imperial Eagle
      The Eagle blames the Wizard, the Wizard blames the Dragon, the Dragon takes the blame, but he's just braggin'

      Now, we're out to show the Congress that we're all so nice and meek
      Why we never even take the Fifth, 'cause we drank that all last week
      And you'll never hear us shootin' or hangin' people high
      'Cause we're learnin' to respect the law and to have an alibi

      Oh, come, come, come, come
      Come to the church in the wildwood
      Come to the church in the vale

      And, those dirty, lyin' witnesses, Lord, forgive them what they speak
      We would go to church and pray for them... 'cept we blew it up last week

      Yes, we're your friendly, liberal, neighborhood Ku Klux Klan
      And we sure do thank that lawyer and that public relations man
      So we're sorry that we hung them, but they did have quite a tan
      And it sure confused your friendly, liberal, misunderstood

      Your friendly neighborhood Klan who says,
      "What's wrong with a hood?"
      Your friendly, liberal, neighborhood Ku Klux
      Grab your Cadillac and head for the hills

      Proud to be part of the 21st Century Democratic Majority Party of the 3M's.. Multiracial, Multigender and MiddleClass

      by LOrion on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:07:04 PM PDT

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  •  Just finished cutting tobacco. (23+ / 0-)

    For the past month I've been cutting tobacco, in my own 3 acre patch and in my nephew's 9 acre patch. Our hired help this year included 3 black guys. The shared hardship of manually challenging work directed toward a clear cut goal in heat that in most Augusts leaves only the cuffs of one's pants dry invariably leads to  camaraderie among us all. We talk of many things in the tobacco patch, but no one this whole month brought up the subject of Ferguson. I can't speak for any one else, but the reason I didn't bring it up wasn't because I was afraid I would say something offensive to our black crew members. In fact, I really would have liked to hear their thoughts about Ferguson. The reason I didn't bring it up was I was afraid of what one of our white crew members might have to say about the subject, knowing that none of them actually watches or reads any news, but know of world events mostly by hearing them second hand from consumers of Fox News. So yes, I agree with the point of your diary teacherken - It was white rage rather than black rage I was afraid of stirring up from any mention of Ferguson.

    •  do not we have to confront it? (17+ / 0-)

      here I think of the possibly apocryphal words by Edmund Burke that "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." as well as the words of Martin Luther King Jr. that "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."

      Yes, there is always a danger, but sometimes when that anger is voiced is when it becomes possible to help the person expressing it understand two things:

      1.  how misdirected their anger is

      2.  our unwillingness to agree with their anger

      The second point is important - they may simply assume we agree with them, and are sometimes shocked when they discover we are not.  That shock could rupture a relationship, but could also be the opening that helps them realize #1.

      "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

      by teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 05:03:06 AM PDT

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      •  Like many have said, you in the white (8+ / 0-)

        sect need to work on this. We have asserted our rights & been told to STFU for any number of reasons. Race relations are crappy because the majority white sect make them so.

        The beneficiaries are the white supremacist 1% & their evil minions.

        Regular white people benefit because they can kill us & get away with murder after a show trial to quiet the uppity negros. You get the jobs; you fail up; you are the police & the law; you're innocent until proven guilty....

        America loves & has co-opted black culture but hates black people.

        Being nice & showing how civilized we are doesn't work as long as there is a deep fundamental lack of human respect. No respect, no respect at all.

        I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

        by a2nite on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 05:40:16 AM PDT

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        •  Well, I don't happen to agree. If white people (6+ / 0-)

          don't respond to the abuse of black people, it's because intimidation works. They are prompted to say, "thank God, I'm not black" and turn away to stay safe. And I don't happen to think that's a good condition for white people to be in. Just as I don't think it's good for Israelis to see Palestinians being abused and turn away.

          Abuse is part of a triangular relationship in which the object is to influence the behavior of innocent by-standers. That's what the show of force in Ferguson was about. Law enforcers were just itchin' to bring all their toys out at night and hold a scare parade. Parading them at mid-day on the Fourth of July doesn't have nearly the same effect.
          The object in Ferguson is the same as it was in Vietnam and Iraq and South Korea -- pacification.

          Why is the Pacific called the Pacific? Because, in comparison to the stormy Atlantic, it's a peaceful lake.

        •  did you mean to direct this to me (7+ / 0-)

          or to the person to whom I was responding?

          For what it is worth, I have been speaking out and more on these issues for more than half a century, starting with Little Rock in 1957 when I was 11 years old.

          While the style of how I do it may have changed in the intervening 57 years, I have never hesitated to challenge such attitudes, in members of my extended family, in those with whom I have worked in both public and private sectors, while in military service, in my classroom, in my writing online, and so on.

          I will also challenge you a bit on a few of your statements - too many people who have never experienced discrimination directed at them are neither racist nor in agreement with those who are, but have been socialized or intimidated into silence and acquiescence.  That does not mean they had black people.  Nor does America as a whole hate black people.

          Unfortunately too many people in positions of authority are blind - willfully or obtusely - to the impact of their words and actions (and silence and inaction).

          "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

          by teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 05:51:45 AM PDT

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          •  It's not a matter of attitude adjustment. (6+ / 0-)

            The problem is systemic. The culture of obedience has been allowed to flourish and is difficult to uproot, largely because many of us are convinced that culture and cultivation are good things.
            But culture is a process of culling and pruning and trimming growth we humans don't want. When we cultivate herbs and vines to produce food stuffs in greater abundance, it's one thing; when we target our own kind with the same behaviors, it's another -- it's abuse. Because humans are supposed to do their own thing and develop their talents as they like.
            Culling humans is an unpleasant enterprise. But, we do it and call it something else.


            The universal shear is "no free lunch."

            •  not exactly disagreeing, but (7+ / 0-)

              the reason it remains systemic is because we have not done the work necessary to change how people react.  Thus the systemic change will not be possible so long as the attitudes are allowed to fester and to be manipulated and whipped up into frenzies of fear and resentment.

              If we view things as closed so that the advancement of one group means the diminishing of another, the problem will continue, and thus is by definition systemic.

              It is only when we begin to realize that freeing those currently oppressed begins to benefit us all that we can begin to really change those parts of the system that serve as obstacles to the kind of change we ALL so desperately need.

              "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

              by teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:09:57 AM PDT

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              •  Fear is really difficult to counter. Some humans (4+ / 0-)

                seem to be born fearful and, perhaps because bullies find them useful, their timidity is reinforced.
                Some, obviously, take much more effort to keep in an intimidated state. That accounts, IMHO, for the constant menu of deprivation visited upon women, for example, in our "entertainment vehicles." Some people object that popular culture sets an example of bad behavior, but I'm not sure that's the real purpose. More likely the object of entertainment is pacification and distraction to make the populace easier to exploit.
                Exploitation seems almost a pure objective, sort of akin to the destruction of a sand castle before the waves arrive. Those who can't create destroy.
                If that's the case, then "creative destruction" was one of the most offensive deceptive theories ever. I used to think it was just a matter of people getting the sequence wrong. Now it seems creation was suborned as an excuse to destroy.
                Wanton destruction. That's the hallmark of the vandal. It's what Cain did to Abel.

        •  When it's white police killing black citizens in (0+ / 0-)

          the line of duty, there generally isn't even so much as "show trial".

          Because these killings are pre-adjudicated by police themselves, and generally are found to be "justified homicide".

          Meaning the police officer in question never faces a trial at all. Just a period of "suspended with pay" or some variation thereof until found "not suspected of a crime" and goes back to work.

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          by Angie in WA State on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 04:27:36 PM PDT

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        •  Do you know what the word "sect" means? (0+ / 0-)

          Are you ignorant  or just trying to be inflammatory?

    •  The reason you give for not bringing up the sub... (4+ / 0-)

      The reason you give for not bringing up the subject of Ferguson is precisely the reason I would have brought it up.

      Nothing changes if we remain silent out of fear of offending people who need to be offended as often as possible.

  •  Just a quick correction (15+ / 0-)
    post-Reconstruction with Southern states restricting and diminishing rights of Blacks
    Virtually ALL states restricted the rights of blacks. The south had the most obvious and virulent but other states had nothing to be proud of either.
    OR, for example, where I live had a KKK governor and it was illegal for black people to move here until 1927. Black people could move to where the prejudice was in less of a degree but nowhere in the country could they get away from it entirely

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    by exlrrp on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 05:25:50 AM PDT

  •  Why are we all so still? (1+ / 0-)
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    I have looked for local events to protest police oppression of human rights and found nothing.

    I hope some day soon there will be a nationwide show of support for racial equality.

    I am ready to once again follow the spirit of Martin Luther King and re-join the civil rights movement.

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    by crystal eyes on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 05:43:53 AM PDT

  •  Nope, There's a Lot More Valuelessness In This (4+ / 0-)

    that intellectuals and liberals will admit. That's a concept that seems to clash with the most basic of liberal worldviews, to the point that they generally can't see it in front of their own eyes.

    The days long response at Ferguson was good enough to be a recognized historic re-enactment of police response to Vietnam War protests I experienced. Point after point after point, from arbitrary arrests, grand gas-augmented sweeps of streets, random imposition of curfews and other rules not publicly announced, rounding up of journalists, and oh yes the media declining to report much embarrassing behavior of authorities.

    This is how police react to anybody who tampers with anything important about the machine. Read your history of labor organizing and any other period of protest up through the WTO and Occupy actions. Plenty of instances of police going "Omaha Beach" on entirely white civilians. Most of a lifetime ago and earlier, they often mowed us down by the dozens in the process. Us. Whites.

    Now today, the triggers --events like the disputable shooting of Brown, and the indisputable cellphone video of the fleeting, casual assassination of Powell-- show that Blacks are often of no value to authorities.

    It was valuelessness that caused us to inflict a Holocaust worth of casualties on newly captured slave stock during transportation between capture and sale into service. Obviously we weren't attempting to exterminate creatures we intended to use as machinery. It's just that they weren't worth the bother of simple proper packing for shipment.

    I don't mean to dismiss a sense of rage in some white groups and in some contexts. The threat to their worldview of thosssssse people showing up all through society is certainly obvious.

    But rage can be overstated, it can imply in a backhanded way some kinds of respect for the perceived enemy that really isn't there.

    A holocaust of shipping losses. That needs to sink in.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 05:49:39 AM PDT

    •  You seem to be obsessed (1+ / 0-)
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      With the phrase "intellectuals and liberals" and what you think they don't know or recognize. It's kind of odd, especially since what you wrote is nothing new. Intellectuals and liberals have written extensively about how violent labor protests and Vietnam protests were.

      Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole. - Ta-Nehisi Coates

      by moviemeister76 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:02:18 AM PDT

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    •  Going to disagree somewhat (10+ / 0-)

      and I am of the Vietnam generation.

      Let me begin by noting several apparent contradictions in my past.  I marched against Vietnam in 1964, yet I enlisted in the Marines in 1965 when I dropped out of Haverford the first time.  That was because I believed I had an obligation to service.  Over the years my thinking has developed, and that is not a decision I would now make, because even though I will grant that on some occasions my nation can demand of me my life it cannot demand that I take another life, and since every Marine is first and foremost a rifleman every Marine by definition is potentially subject to orders to take another life.

      Vietnam occurred in a context with several different issues conflated.

      First, there was already fear and unease because of what was happening in Civil Rights.  Much of that was led by young people.

      Second, we were still very much in the shadow of two wars. WWII was still viewed as patriotic, and many in positions of authority had served, or their parents had served, and there was resentment at those who would not similarly serve.  Korea had been sold in the context of Anti-communism, and despite the eventual discrediting of Joe McCarthy the fear of being labeled as weak on communism haunted many.  The Cold War was still very much a part of our consciousness.  We had lived through several iterations of crises in Berlin, culminating with the Wall.  The real possibility of a nuclear exchange in the Cuban Missile Crisis still resonated.  Many had memories of Soviet brutality in Hungary in 1956 (and some remembered in E Germany in 1953).  We would see more of that in Czechoslovakia in 1968 in the crushing of the Prague Spring.   Hell, even JFK had run as a strong anti-communist by focusing on what he surely knew was the non-existent missile crisis.

      Vietnam came from Laos.  Most Americans forget that early in Kennedy's presidency the focus was on Laos.  That was viewed as an important place to stop the expansion of Communism.  Similar reasoning, the so-called domino theory, was applied inappropriately to what was happening in Vietnam, with Americans being told this was expansion by the ChiComs (even though Vietnamese resented and even hated Chinese and were far more aligned with the Soviets).  In our bi-polar approach to the world too many Americans failed to grasp that this was a nationalist movement.

      Thus while the kinds of issues that you discuss in your comment were part of it, Vietnam was conflated with many other things.

      Why Anderson's piece spoke so powerfully to me is because for many there is a longing to believe we are in a post-racial society, but sadly for too many we are not - there are those who cynically fan racial fear and antagonism for the own personal, political and financial benefit.  

      Honest political leadership would recognize how much will still have to accomplish, and would honestly confront the nascent fears rather than allowing them either to fester or to deliberately foment them.

      That is why this is very much about race.

      "My religion is kindness." - His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

      by teacherken on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:06:42 AM PDT

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  •  Ferguson reminds me of Attica (4+ / 0-)
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    Many of the cops I saw in Ferguson exhibited the same racist rage that the cops did before and after they stormed Attica and slaughtered so many men of color (not to mention slaughtered the hostages).

    Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole. - Ta-Nehisi Coates

    by moviemeister76 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:07:15 AM PDT

  •  Very comprehensive essay; thanks for the link. (7+ / 0-)

    One need look no further than the comment thread following to see the merit in the author's argument.

    I'm not sure I see much tolerance and open-mindedness among white Americans. Many are actively, overtly hateful; many are indifferent and thus contributory. Only a few seem genuinely interested in racial justice.

    If there can be anational survey conducted with the results indicating that more white Americans think that "anti-white racism" is worse than anti-black racism--I rest my case.

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    by peregrine kate on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:11:07 AM PDT

  •  That there is [almost always]... (2+ / 0-)
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    a "White Rage" backlash/reaction to major events concerning the African American community cannot be disputed.
    But there is an additional factor at play as well....
    Namely, Fear.
    [White] fear of losing their perceived majority, and factual power in the country...
    Perhaps having to actually share, live in a truly equitable society...
    Two states of being that have never existed in The United States.
    Rage and fear are a potent combination that inevitably leads to irrational behavior, and quite often violence.
    The two must be addressed in conjunction.

    "These 'Yet To Be' United States" --James Baldwin-- -6.75, -5.78

    by kevinbr38 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 06:46:12 AM PDT

  •  This is an inadequate explanation (0+ / 0-)

    NYPD has had well-publicized problems with its treatment of suspects and its unequal enforcement of laws. Not all of them are NYPD's fault, but there are clearly some issues here. But the majority of NYPD's patrol officers are minorities, and it is poor minority communities that have benefitted the most from the huge drop in crime here.

    Speaking of crime, Ferguson has a much higher crime rate than NYC or the nation as a whole.

    •  I believe you have missed the point entirely. (8+ / 0-)

      1. Dr. Anderson's piece specifically makes the point that these events are not about specific police officers violating the civil rights of a particular individual. These events need to be understood in historical context, which is that any significant progress among African-Americans in the U.S. has always been responded to by the white majority power structure with rage expressed in various forms, including the overturning of busing legislation, defunding of public schools, backlash against affirmative action, revision of voting rights, and redistricting--and and a judicial system that makes it legal to kill unarmed black children and men without punishment.

      2. As for crime rates in Ferguson, please read the numerous diaries here and newspaper articles that have detailed the unwarranted stops, arrests and general harassment of the citizenry by the Ferguson police.

      It's the Central Limit Theorem, Stupid!

      by smartdemmg on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:34:28 AM PDT

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  •  The Great Recession (1+ / 0-)
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    There is the economic impact of the Great Recession, which has fallen far more heavily on minority communities.
    Yes, but that's nothing new. we all know in past recessions women and minorities were the "first fired and last hired"; white men were hired first.

    The Great Recession is different, way different. research indicates white men did not quickly get back into the work force. I'm not sure but would not be surprised this has had an impact on our overall level of racism and white rage.

    "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

    by Superpole on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:22:16 AM PDT

  •  White rage cloaked in respectability. (15+ / 0-)

    This particular passage from Carol Anderson's piece caught my attention.

    Protests and looting naturally capture attention. But the real rage smolders in meetings where officials redraw precincts to dilute African American voting strength or seek to slash the government payrolls that have long served as sources of black employment. It goes virtually unnoticed, however, because white rage doesn’t have to take to the streets and face rubber bullets to be heard. Instead, white rage carries an aura of respectability and has access to the courts, police, legislatures and governors, who cast its efforts as noble, though they are actually driven by the most ignoble motivations.
    When one controls a system, they need not engage in extra-legal acts or express their outrage, anger or dejection publicly. They simply and quietly alter the rules of the game to assure they maintain power.

    It's the Central Limit Theorem, Stupid!

    by smartdemmg on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:24:45 AM PDT

  •  The Op-Ed was great (6+ / 0-)

    As usual, it brought out the master-race-baiters.

    Never has so privileged a group whined so much about giving up so little.  It's pathetic.

  •  Brilliant. (5+ / 0-)

    Inverting the narrative and demonstrating why the inversion is more factual.

    One of your most incisive, teacherken, and that's saying something.

    "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

    by raptavio on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:57:36 AM PDT

  •  Tipped & reced nt (4+ / 0-)

    I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

    by a2nite on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 08:08:26 AM PDT

  •  what are we exactly raging against? (1+ / 0-)
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    that isn't clear. to me.

    are white people simply enraged that other humans have brown skin?

    the piece cites eruptions of white rage in correlation to events of that should have helped people of color but, as Malcolm X correctly points out, never truly did.

    but why are we angry? at what? i mean, it might help us all if we really understood what was at the root of this anger, this WHITE RAGE.

    initially, my analysis is this: after the civil war, it was Southern RAGE against the North. the big Southern FUCK YOU rage focused on the the most vulnerable, the newly freed African Americans. and all those anti slavery northerns, much like the anti-abortion crowd, seemed to be content to free slaves but leave them w/o any infrastructure to be free, literate, fairly employed, and American. Like those pro lifers letting babies be born and being against school lunch programs and free health care for children.

    We have never moved too far past the aftermath of the civil war.

    Having said the above, I don't believe the WaPo piece does much more than recount history nor does it really answer its own question.

    why are white enraged at blacks? if that is truly what is at the bottom of all this.

    “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” Buckminster Fuller

    by pfiore8 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 08:08:47 AM PDT

    •  why are whites enraged at blacks? (5+ / 0-)

      I would say, "because they (we) are taught to be."

      culturally, within the family, etc.

      not all are taught to think of black as the other, but many are. it's our history that blacks are originally second class, non-citizens.

      also there is insecurity - it's a common phenomenon that when one is insecure about one's own position that one takes it out on others.

      and like a lot of the Fox news stuff, it serves as a helpful distraction from what is actually going on.

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      by mightymouse on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 08:41:50 AM PDT

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      •  i think that's where it is: (1+ / 0-)
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        "also there is insecurity - it's a common phenomenon that when one is insecure about one's own position that one takes it out on others."

        so take it further: insecure about what?

        “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” Buckminster Fuller

        by pfiore8 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 08:46:40 AM PDT

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        •  insecure about what (1+ / 0-)
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          you are asking the good questions here! i will pontificate on ...

          social and economic insecurity. economic is perhaps more obvious, but it may be merely a subset of social .... people know the economic landscape is shifting, good jobs are not so easy to find, even if one is white.

          social - people feel bad when it's made clear to them they're not in with the in crowd. one way to compensate is to be very clear that some others are even less in the in crowd than you are. or to put it another way, be a loyal soldier in the white republic. sure, you will never be a general, but at least you're on the team with the most status.

          also, getting back to your original question, why the white rage at blacks - some whites (some people in general) are filled with rage for non-racial reasons. our society allows whites to mistreat blacks, so racism can be an outlet for this rage. these people might be drawn to police departments.

          it's a long sad story.

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          by mightymouse on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 09:08:46 AM PDT

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    •  ...."but why are we angry? at what?" (3+ / 0-)
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      1. Loss of power

      2. Loss of privilege

      The history of this nation is that is has always had a group who received the wealth, power and privilege at the cost of others. Each time the white majority perceived/feared a loss of these benefits they have responded through legislative, judicial and violent means to restore the status quo or as it is known in the South "traditional values."

      One of the true failings of the American Educational system has been the failure to provide students with an adequate understanding of American history that does not exclude inconvenient facts that reflect negatively on those who write the first draft.

      It's the Central Limit Theorem, Stupid!

      by smartdemmg on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 08:46:58 AM PDT

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      •  okay, so we see (1+ / 0-)
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        the advancement of people of color as a threat to our standing (access to jobs, college applications).

        yes, i think that is one very deep factor.

        to enlarge the context then: would this exist if people of color were the majority? i mean, would there then be black privilege, so to speak?

        and in more racially/ethnically homogenous cultures, are there divisions (ie caste system in India)?

        what i'm getting at is this: how we understand these relationships may be the way to liberate all of us from the burden of bias.

        is it primitive-primal based? are we just bad people? or are we malfunctioning within the systems we've created? can we even manage the systems we've created?

        like how do accept feeding antibotics / hormones to animals in order to keep them in horrid and abusive conditions? we know it is harming our health and environment, yet we live in some kind of denial.

        seems to me that we aren't really asking the right kinds of questions or really getting relationships and how we've dug this hole and persist in this mess.

        we keep reverting back to blame, good, bad, evil. it's deeper than any of those things and it's not personal, but more to do with our biological engineering that seems, to me, not compatible or evolved enough to handle the worlds we've created.

        and i do believe our survival instincts have been totally subjugated ... in my view, survival depends upon cooperation ... not continual division, whatever drives it.

        “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” Buckminster Fuller

        by pfiore8 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 09:17:27 AM PDT

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  •  Me either (6+ / 0-)
    "Why reasonable people go stark raving mad when anything involving a Negro comes up, is something I don’t pretend to understand."  ~ Atticus Finch

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    by BOHICA on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 09:05:33 AM PDT

  •  What a crock. (0+ / 0-)

    Feguson is not a metaphor for anything.   Maybe that sells newspapers, but I ain't buyin'.

    The internet and Twitter have everybody thinking that we can know the truth instantly. That's not the case. We can only know what people want us to believe instantly.

    by SpamNunn on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 10:07:55 AM PDT

  •  What drives white rage is fear of just retribution (3+ / 0-)
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    by rasbobbo on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 10:09:15 AM PDT

  •  White Girl Will Be Tried As Black Adult (3+ / 0-)
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    We all knew this was coming!  :-)

  •  Sadly I think many here are naive about (0+ / 0-)

    demographics.  I mean it stop the Afrikaners who were 20% of the population of South Africa to control the majority Black population with Apartheid. It has to be more than just voting.
    Economic justice has to be in the equation.

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    by Mr Stagger Lee on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 07:08:47 PM PDT

  •  Maybe the Joneses do get a little mad (1+ / 0-)
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    when their neighbors finally catch up.

    Even within the same family, I've seen resentment when the cousins who were always poor finally catch up and actually do better.

    Humans are very complex.

  •  I thought this was such an interesting viewpoint. (1+ / 0-)
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    When you're dealing from a position of power, you get to express your rage in ways that seem socially unacceptable and some people will even laud you for it.

    You're gonna need a bigger boat.

    by Debby on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 09:01:22 PM PDT

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