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I'm a Republican: Fuck you

by Sue in NH

Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:02:54 PM PDT

I'm a republican. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I have my own pile of money.  Fuck you.

I'm a republican.  My kids go to private school. I don't care about your kids, or public schools. When my kids are better educated than yours, they will get better jobs and make more money than your kids. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I have a job with health insurance. If you were not so lazy or stupid, you would have a good job with health insurance too. It sure is sad when you go bankrupt after a catastrophic health crisis, but its probably your own damn fault anyway. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I'm a Christian. You are either a heathen, a raghead Muslim, or the wrong kind of Christian. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I'm going to heaven and you're going to hell. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. It is not only my right, it's my duty to spread freedom and democracy around the world.  If you don't understand that, Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I have a condo in Vail, a summer home in Maine, and a beach house in Florida.  We don't need any National Parks or protected forests. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I'm white. I'm perfect, and I'm not like all those brown, yellow and black people. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I live in a gated community. It's too bad about all the crime out there on the city streets, but that's your problem.  Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I hate taxes. Its my money.  I earned it.  I don't want to pay to support all you lazy, uneducated, pathetic poor people, least of all you teenage mothers (whores), you drug addicts and all you black boys. Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I hate homosexuals.  When I think of gay people, I think of of man-on-dog, horse on woman, threesomes, and other sexual fantasies, and that frightens me.  If you are queer, or have a queer friend, Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I was born rich, and I've become more rich, and damn it, since I can't take it all with me, I'm going to make sure my kids are just as stinking rich. Fuck you.

I'm a republican.  I'm never wrong.  I know everything, never make a mistake, and can't learn anything from you, you damn ignorant pussy democrats.  Fuck you.

I'm a republican. My rights and civil liberties should be protected, but not yours, you terrorist loving, America hating, pansy liberal.  Fuck you.

I'm a republican. I hate you and everything you Democrats stand for, you fucking communists. Fuck you.

Rage, rage, rage against the lying right.
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  •  HA! (none / 1)

    I love it!! Great Diary

    I say Fuck You to republicans all the time :-)

    Bush? He can't run one country and you expect him to run two?

    by ScrewJack on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:01:09 PM PDT

    •  just a FEW more (3.72 / 11)

      I was responsible for destroying public housing in this country. I'm creating an ownership society--FUCK YOU.

      I was responsible for turning back the clock on environmental legislation while at the same time giving it names like "Clean Air Act" to fool and propagandize an already clueless-as-shit electorate--FUCK YOU.

      I am responsible for the droves of American Muslims that shiver when they hear a knock at the door, shiver when the FBI opens an investigation file on their business/charity, shiver every time they're in an airport, just plain shiver every time they fucking wake up--FUCK YOU.

      I was responsible for leaking the name of a CIA operative--just for kicks--and fucking her entire life over--FUCK YOU.

      I make it hard for gays to be gay. I make it hard for women to be women. I make it hard for Blacks to be Black. I make it hard for Latinos and Latinas to be Latinos and Latinas--I wait until they get into court and then I take their civil liberties that they thought they had and then show them what they really got--nothing--FUCK YOU.

      I started the AEI. The Cato Institute. The Federalist Society. The Heritage Foundation. I started these places as a home for scholars that were too distanced from reality to teach at--er-colleges. So...now they advise the President. Hehe--FUCK YOU.

      I blog on Little Green Fucktards, Insta-ass, the Volokh Conspiracy, anything with "Appeal" in the name (Southern Appeal, How Appealing, fucking name it, us conservatives and libertarians love appellate court--gives us a chance to make law from the bench, just like we accuse you guys of doing)--and literally make shit up and then blog about it--FUCK YOU.

      I was responsible for eroding the estate tax (something our founding fathers treasured so as not to create a landed gentry in our great nation) so that my kids, their kids, and everyone else with my last name will get a chance to be a bunch of rich, undeserving fucks like me who will never understand the plight of the poor due to their utter removal from reality and thus support the same stances I supported in my life. FUCK YOU.

      I own you--FUCK YOU.

      by kosmologist on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:52:44 PM PDT

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      •  check the demos (1.25 / 4)

        Interesting set of FU's. I'm sure you feel a whole lot better now.

        But what is puzzling, given the clear disdain of the FU republican crowd for every income and educational demo other its own, is that the FU republicans managed to carry nearly every income and educational demo.

        Kerry did carry the high school dropout and grad school educational demos and the under $30000 income demo, but the FU republicans walked away with all the others.

        Given all the republican FU's, why, do you suppose, it worked out that way.

        by nyctex on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 04:55:30 PM PDT

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        •  I'd be happy to engage you, but... (none / 0)

          I'm not catching what a demo is. Let me know.

          by kosmologist on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 06:01:25 PM PDT

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        •  there's something wrong (none / 1)

          with kansas.

          the point is that the FU republicans propagandize and pick off single issue voters to maintain power.  The FU republicans screw over the same people that vote for them.

          and to you nyctex, uid:41030 and this as your first comment, i'm going to guess that we'll see your name appear with more and more patronizing and trollish comments in the near future.  

          Fuck you!

          America would have been better off with four 8 years of Ralph Wiggum

          by LeftCoaster on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 06:06:21 PM PDT

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          •  Ah, Perception! (none / 1)

            Something wrong with Kansas? Bullshit.

            Kansas (and the folks there) is what it is, and it will be what it will be. Do we need a little transactional analysis here? (Solomon for you who are too young, or perhaps far too old to remember) Kansas is OKAY. If anybody's not OKAY, the answer would be most likely found in the mirror.

            Lakoff has the answer to what's the matter with the way we've tried to do political bid'ness in Kansas. It has nothing to do with moving toward the ephemeral center, nor does it suggest that the folks in Kansas are too stupid to know better.

            There isn't anything wrong with Kansas. (Then again, Utah, I'm not so sure about ...)

            The next fantasy: Obama/Dean (please let it be)

            by wystler on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 08:23:16 PM PDT

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            •  Actually, there IS something wrong with Kansas (3.60 / 5)

              Actually, there is something wrong with Kansas, in the sense that voters in Kansas have been mislead by a false movement.  Thomas Frank calls the movement "The Great Backlash," and does an admirable job of exposing it.  He says the movement is built on the anger of working-class people in places like Kansas, who have been taught to see class not as an economic issue but a cultural issue.  'Those snobby liberals want to impose all their crazy ideas like abortion and gay marriage on us average Americans, but we're not going to let them,' they say.  This has been the great coup of the Republican Party, to construct this false framework in which they represent average Americans (culturally, that is).  To quote Frank,

              "Anti-intellectualism is one of the grand unifying themes of the backlash, the mutant strain of class war that underpins so many of Kansas's otherwise random-seeming grievances."

              The Democratic Party has played right into the Republican's strategy, too:

              "Democratic political strategy simply assumes that people know where their economic interest lies and that they will act on it by instinct... the gigantic error in all this is that people don't spontaneously understand their situation in the great sweep of things."

              If this 'movement' seems paradoxical to you, you're not alone.  It's built on a series of contradictions which haven't yet gotten in the way of the success of the movement:

              "American conservatism depends for its continued dominance and even for its very existence on people never making certain mental connections about the world... for example, the connection between mass culture, most of which conservatives hate, and laissez-faire capitalism, which they adore without reservation.  Or between the small towns they profess to love and the market forces that are slowly grinding those small towns back into the red-state dust - which forces they praise in the most exalted terms."

              Some have likened the Backlash movement to a political fantasy, in which people who have no real power in this world are made to feel that they are making a difference in the battle to save America's culture (from the crazy liberals - media, Hollywood celebrities, etc.).

              So yes, there is a problem with Kansas.  I only hope it is a problem we can solve before it's too late.  For as Frank writes,

              "Even if the state must sacrifice it all - its cities and its industry, its farms and its small towns, all its thoughts and all its doings - the brilliance of the mirage will not fade.  Kansas is ready to lead us singing into the apocalypse."

              By the way, all the quotes here are taken from Frank's book "What's the Matter with Kansas?," which I would recommend to everyone.  It's a purchase you absolutely will not regret.
               

              ~ The improbable is possible ~

              by Benjaminwise on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 11:51:36 PM PDT

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              •  very well put... (none / 0)

                thanks for getting my back on that one... glad you posted it seperately as a diary too (which I've recc'd)..

                America would have been better off with four 8 years of Ralph Wiggum

                by LeftCoaster on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 04:56:43 AM PDT

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              •  I Agree Almost Entirely ... (none / 1)

                ... but it's the premise that something's wrong with Kansas. You (and Frank and Lakoff) nailed the problem - that the Democrats were sucked right in to laundry-list politics that depends on people voting their self interests.  But Frank (and you), by posing that KANSAS is the problem, help to perpetuate the myth that the voters themselves have the problem. They don't.

                George Lakoff resolves this elegantly, and correctly (imho) by proposing that people vote their identity.

                • Democrats use focus groups and create laundry lists of government policy, while Frank Lunz works at a deeper level, by testing at the gut level.
                • While Democrats say they're for prescription drugs, healthcare for kids, and are pro-choice, Republicans clearly and concisely state their values: self reliance, the free market, freedom, family values.

                The GOP has managed to become dominant because the voter - whether in Kansas, Alabama, or New Jersey - votes his/her values-based identity. The Republicans have spent years researching, personal network building, and marketing their core beliefs. The Democrats peddle a laundry list based on opinion polls. The citizenry asks, not impertinently, what do the Democrats stand for? And we, until recently, all dutifully recited a hodgepodge of legislative intiatives, as well as reinforcing the GOP's frame by attempting to negate it.

                Even now, some Dem officeholders and many of the participants in the nascent netroots, fail to "get it". They fail to understand that "Social Security is not in crisis" is damned near the worst thing anybody on our side can say. (if you don't understand why that is, you need a heavy dose of Lakoff)

                Kansas is not going to lead us anywhere. If we give their voters a true reason to follow (K. Sibelius), they will. If, however, we keep sending them folks who "... voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it ...", though, there should be no reason to wonder. And the fault, benji-wise, lies not with Kansas, but with us.

                The next fantasy: Obama/Dean (please let it be)

                by wystler on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 10:25:38 AM PDT

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                •  I agree (none / 0)

                  I think we agree in general about this.  Your analysis above seems right to me.  My only quibble is that I do believe there is something "wrong" with Kansas when so many people are voting for politicians who continue to enact legislation that screws them.  But I agree that blaming the voters themselves is not useful.  We must simply understand the situation, with the help of people like Frank and Lakoff, and develop our own strategy and "frame" for persuading these people.

                  ~ The improbable is possible ~

                  by Benjaminwise on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 02:43:51 PM PDT

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        •  Not quite correct (none / 1)

          Bush carried the over $50,000 crowd. Those income groups under $50,000 went to Kerry. The under $50,000 has a majority of the population, but the over $50,000 voted in greater numbers and thus bush is still the president.

          Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling. - Cake

          by slatsg on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 06:09:10 PM PDT

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          •  Under and over $50,000 (none / 0)

            That sounds pretty simple. Every voter who makes over $50,000 voted for Bush; every voter who makes under $50,000 voted for Kerry; there is a higher proportion of voters in the over-$50,000 group, so Bush won. Now, what are the actual numbers? It's two distributions, one of income versus percent voting, another of income versus fraction voting for Bush. What's your source?

            "This document is totally non-redactable and non-segregable and cannot even be meaningfully described." *

            by dratman on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 09:57:40 PM PDT

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        •  How about: (none / 0)

          "I espouse the Karl Rove philosophy..F*** YOU!"

          "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."--Miguel De Santa Anna

          by GainesT1958 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 07:08:53 PM PDT

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        •  I'd need to see some numbers (none / 1)

          to buy that.

          What is most interesting is that Bush won by the largest margins in the states that represent the bottom 15 of the public education system.

          So if what you're trying to say is that he won each demographic group, methinks you are FOS.

          Tarheel born, tarheel bred! And when I die, I'll be tarheel dead.

          by NCYellowDog on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 10:06:10 PM PDT

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        •  I'm confused. (none / 0)

          You say that Kerry carried the high school dropout and grad school educational demos, but the republicans carried nearly every educational demo.  

          How can both of those statements be true?

          Beyond that, I looked up the exit polls.  Kerry also carried the $30,000 - $50,000 group.  Next time you troll, get your facts right.

          http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

          by Sanity on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 04:58:18 AM PDT

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        •  Plenty of high-income, highly-educated people (none / 0)

          in New England who voted HAPPILY for Kerry, so fuck you.

          by lecsmith on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 05:05:44 AM PDT

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          •  and in Pennsylvania, New Jersey (none / 0)

            and in the older more civilized states(and the left coasters who are by definition more civilized and intelligent)

            so triple fuck you!  Those of us who live in one of the original 13 should get to vote twice, just like the red staters!

            It's a bell curve for a reason, people want to vote for someone who is as big a loser as they are.  Bush (take some more 'roids boys, it's good for the team) is already going down in history as one of the very worst presidents we've ever seen.

            A billion here and a billion there, and soon you're talking about real money. Everett Dirksen

            by Sargent Pepper on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 07:49:49 AM PDT

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  •  re (none / 0)

    I fucking loved your diary.

    "Steve Holt pays his property taxes. John McCain does not." - Steve Holt

    by cookiesandmilk on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:01:22 PM PDT

    •  re (4.00 / 5)

      No, seriously, i really fucking loved this thread...

      This is not about hating Rethugs folks. This about framing and use their own fucking hypocrisy against them.

      Shame is the tool of the new century. And the best ways to shame someone is to hand them their hypocrisy on a silver platter.

      Sue in NH for Secretary of Re-Education!

      "Steve Holt pays his property taxes. John McCain does not." - Steve Holt

      by cookiesandmilk on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:25:09 PM PDT

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  •  I apologize in advance if I've missed something... (3.20 / 5)

    but is this really necessary?

    Notice: This Comment © ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:02:37 PM PDT

    •  re (4.00 / 14)

      Yes.

      "Steve Holt pays his property taxes. John McCain does not." - Steve Holt

      by cookiesandmilk on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:04:36 PM PDT

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      •  Clarification (4.00 / 11)

        Having grown up in New York, using the "f" word is, in fact, second nature for me.

        Having been born out west and having lived here for more than the past 20 years (mostly in a very small community), using the "f" word in public discussion is usually unnecessary and unwarranted.

        "Cheney You" could have replaced "fuck you" in every instance without diminishing the meaning or effect of the post.

        In any case, for those who disagree with my sentiment: Fuck You.

        (Otherwise, please don't troll rate me; I'm already super low on mojo.)

        Notice: This Comment © ROGNM

        by ROGNM on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:19:06 PM PDT

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        •  What the fuck are you on? (4.00 / 2)

          If it's so "second nature" then why is it fucking bothering you so fucking much?

          Yeah, and I bet a lot of your closest friends are gay, right?

          "We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins

          by TX Unmuzzled on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:49:18 PM PDT

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        •  "cheney you..." (none / 0)

          ...that's just awesome.  I've never been comfortable with the f word, but I can definitely start telling people to Cheney off, from now on.

          "In the evening of life we shall be judged on love." -Oscar Romero

          by sparrowsong on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 09:48:42 PM PDT

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    •  How about (none / 0)

      I hate you because I can and it's sooo naughty. Will you spank me now? Pleeeasssse

      It's my world too

      by Lahdee on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:04:41 PM PDT

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    •  Let her vent, let her vent! (4.00 / 8)

      I think it's healthy to express it in public form every once in awhile.  

      Considering that freepers talk about taking out liberals with Uzis, this is pretty tame.

      An American Abroad for Barack Obama

      by SneakySnu on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:06:17 PM PDT

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      •  There is no 'venting.' (none / 0)

        The concept of venting is based upon a faulty assumption about emtional states, a sort of hydraulic model. Thus, if you do this sort of thing, you'll feel better because it releases tension.

        No. You'll learn that it feels good to do this sort of thing, ie, you're rehearsing a type of response to frustration (aggression, essentially). That just means, in the future, you'll be more likely to behave aggressively when you're frustrated because, in the past, that's what you did and it felt GOOD.

        I'm not saying that it doesn't feel good. But that doesn't mean it's good for you. And it certainly doesn't mean that it does any good.

        by RudigerVT on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 07:58:47 AM PDT

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    •  no, not really (4.00 / 101)

      It truly is pretty offensive.  And I don't blame you for calling me on it.

      But for once, I'm taking a break from being an understanding, compassionate liberal, trying always to see the possible good and pure motivations behind what republicans do.  

      Maybe there are no good intentions. Maybe their actions are motivated only by greed and selfishness.

      Just experimenting with a different perspective.  Thank you for your patience.

      "I don't want to name names, but they know themselves." Koffi Annan

      by Sue in NH on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:07:53 PM PDT

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      •  bah (4.00 / 3)

        I'm compassionate to those who are compassionate, fuck a republican. I don't give a shit about that party and cannot wait until the day they are no more.

        So to all the republicans out there I say FUCK YOU from your liberal compassionate friend ScrewJack.

        Don't feel bad they deserve it. :-)

        Bush? He can't run one country and you expect him to run two?

        by ScrewJack on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:12:00 PM PDT

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      •  SUE IN NH's TIP JAR ABOVE n/t (none / 0)

        What an excellent day for an Exorcism... SCI/Kenyon

        by DianeL on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:15:49 PM PDT

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      •  bingo (4.00 / 3)

        Maybe there are no good intentions. Maybe their actions are motivated only by greed and selfishness.

        although I would add that the motivations aren't limited to greed and selfishness.

        by colleen on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:36:39 PM PDT

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        •  Can't get a country tune outta my head (none / 0)

          We Need a Whole Lot More of Rockridge, and Alot Less FUCK YOU (apologies to Linda Ronstadt)

          Admittedly, a serious effort would have me working feverishly on lyrics, but this diary's got me all riled up ...

          The next fantasy: Obama/Dean (please let it be)

          by wystler on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 08:33:44 PM PDT

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      •  Blanket fuck you (3.71 / 7)

        I don't want to be hated for being a democrat, so I don't want to hate people just because they are republican.  Why lump them together?  We will need those who do think their party is driving them off a cliff and we should welcome them.

        Attack the issues and the leaders, not the party.

        by debraz on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:43:35 PM PDT

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        •  Don' t you see (none / 1)

          that they lumped themselves together when they voted for King George? We will welcome them when they are forced over the cliff. Hell, we're close to standing at the bottom of it anyway, and I'm sure that those of us that are left with any blankets will stretch them out to catch them as they plummit.
          If we have any food left, I'm sure we will share it...if they will only whisper through their cracked and bleeding lips..."I am not a <cough> Fucking Republican."

          Hands off my Social Security, John McCain.

          by emmasnacker on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 09:38:03 PM PDT

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      •  this diary... (none / 1)

        Made me miss Theoria.

        Hope you enjoyed the rant and thanks for the giggle!

        If you can't stand the heat, don't play with matches.

        by DawnG on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:56:48 PM PDT

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      •  I liked this diary Sue, (4.00 / 5)

        its a great release diary and it really gives one a "in a nutshell" perspective of a lot of Republicans views here in America.  Heres a few more  lol.
        I drive a Hummer cause its (I'm) cool and I can, so fuck you.
        I can use all the gas I want to cause I'm rich and I don't have to worry about any war or draft cause my kids aren't fighting it, so fuck you.
        I don't give a ratshit about what the rest of the world thinks of us cause I'm from America and we are better then anyone else.  Look at how much better we live (i.e. we are better at raping the earth, so we deserve all the resources we can use), so fuck you.

        Thanks Sue, that was kind of fun to get that out.

        by i love coffee on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 04:07:46 PM PDT

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    •  i don't know what you've missed (4.00 / 7)

      this is basically a gratuitous exercise called making a strawman & setting it on fire. the republicans are expert at this. totally unnecessary & totally recommended.

      Anyone who advocates, supports, defends, rationalizes, or excuses torture has pus for brains and a case of scurvy for a conscience. - James Wolcott

      by rasbobbo on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:08:54 PM PDT

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    •  YES (none / 0)

      The Republican Party is reaping the seed it has allowed to be sown by their own representatives.

      What an excellent day for an Exorcism... SCI/Kenyon

      by DianeL on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:13:08 PM PDT

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    •  I Know (4.00 / 2)

      I felt better just reading it.

      "It's been headed this way since the World began, when a vicious creature made the jump from Monkey to Man."--Elvis Costello

      by BigOkie on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:43:43 PM PDT

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    •  No, but... (4.00 / 4)

       >> but is this really necessary? <<

      Should we limit ourselves to only those things which are necessary?  No, let loose once in a while.  Act Vice-presidential.  Fuck you <g>.

      by PaulinSF on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:47:15 PM PDT

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    •  What did you miss? (4.00 / 2)

      I think it was a sense of humor.

      I realize that it's hard to maintain one in these times of political drought, but we'll survive -- well we have a pretty good chance to survive --- Uhh.. I hope we survive...

      MOMMIE!!! I'm scared.

      From the lower, left quadrant of the political compass (www.politicalcompass.org), DrKen

      by DrKen on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:17:51 PM PDT

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    •  What is good in life? (4.00 / 6)

      "...what is good in life?"

      "To crush the republicans, to drive them before you, and to hear the lamentations of their special interests and media enablers..."

      543,895 votes

      by paradocs on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:43:40 PM PDT

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    •  Maybe it is (none / 1)

      In a way it is just calling it like it is. That is pretty much what the Republicans are telling the world, sometimes in so many words (Cheny!). THey have a mask of "compassion" which is so BS...but  what they really are saying is "fuck you." Maybe it it has to be said clearly and boldly.

      Read the PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT Newsletter

      by mole333 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:57:26 PM PDT

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    •  So I'm in one of those big box book stores (4.00 / 4)

      and there's a cardboard cutout picture of Sean Hannity over a pile of toilet paper otherwise known as his book, where he calls me a terrorist right there on the cover. So I flip the bird to the goddamn cutout right there in the bookstore. Made some people stop and look, and hopefully think just a little. So yeah, it's fucking necessary.

      -8.00, -4.87

      by Bruce The Moose on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 08:37:34 PM PDT

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    •  I would say (none / 0)

      That it absolutely is.

      Necessary.

      Healthcare for ALL! NOW! & OneCare at MySpace

      by SarahLee on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 08:25:22 PM PDT

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  •  add one more.... (4.00 / 20)

    I'm not rich yet, but I want to be. and when I am... Fuck you.

    www.epluribusmedia.org

    by kiw on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:04:21 PM PDT

  •  So how do you feel about Joe (none / 0)

    So how do you feel about Joe Lieberman?

    Accountability moment, my ass!

    by orthogonal on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:04:33 PM PDT

  •  Fucking awesome! (none / 0)

    by davybaby on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:04:37 PM PDT

  •  Mrs. Betty Bowers? Is that you? (4.00 / 4)

    by Timaeus on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:05:04 PM PDT

  •  This is fun (3.85 / 20)

    I support the troops, didn't you see the yellow ribbon on my Humvee?  Fuck you.

    McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist

    by sgilman on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:08:00 PM PDT

  •  Love this (none / 0)

    Despite the fact that I just posted a complimentary post regarding House member Ron Paul (R TX), here: even conservatives worry about Fascism, by teacherken, your Diary reflects the image the MAJORITY of Republican members of Congress have wrought upon themselves, in that sense, they deserve the thoughts expressed in your Diary.

    RECOMMENDED

    What an excellent day for an Exorcism... SCI/Kenyon

    by DianeL on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:08:50 PM PDT

  •  Fuckin' A- Must be something in the NH air (none / 0)

    I wrote a 'depressing diary earlier  Political Malaise and I'm from NH, but yours made me laugh!!

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones"

    by roseeriter on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:09:18 PM PDT

  •  You must have... (4.00 / 30)

    interviewed my neighbors for this piece...

    May I add:  I helped clean up a kid's party at the neighbors.  After gathering up the empty 2-liters I asked "Where is your recycle bin? Her snide response: "I leave recycling to Democrats and tree huggers."  

    Thus:  I have complete contempt for the environment. Fuck You.

    "Loving deeply gives you courage." Peter Jennings

    by Needa Bigger Pretzel on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:09:21 PM PDT

    •  LOL! (none / 0)

      I had a boyfriend once who had vehemently Republican parents.  I asked him once why they didn't recycle, and he replied that they probably thought it was a Communist plot.  He was only half kidding.

      An American Abroad for Barack Obama

      by SneakySnu on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:14:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  re (none / 1)

       "I leave recycling to Democrats and tree huggers."  

      Wow.

      Congrats to you on your restraint. They would have had to call the police to stop me from going verbally medieval on her buttocks..

      "Steve Holt pays his property taxes. John McCain does not." - Steve Holt

      by cookiesandmilk on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:14:54 PM PDT

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      •  Hmmm ...buttocks... (4.00 / 4)

        great place for the 2 liters!  Shoulda thought of that...

        "Loving deeply gives you courage." Peter Jennings

        by Needa Bigger Pretzel on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:25:18 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Only verbally? (4.00 / 2)

        Why not recycle them?

        Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity, only not as much fun.

        by Toktora on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:29:26 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  A co-worker (4.00 / 2)

        told me a story about a friend of his whose husband had just died.  A strange woman showed up at the funeral and told her, "I don't know why you're crying, your husband is in Hell."  Apparently, not the "right kind" of Christian.

        Friends escorted the woman away.  That is a truly evil woman.  I still can't believe that story.

        McCain: Less jobs, more war.

        by Unstable Isotope on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:56:35 PM PDT

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        •  I can beat that (4.00 / 5)

          And I swear by all that I hold sacred that it's true.

          Sitting on the -- must have been the D or the Q -- one morning, within two weeks of 9/11.

          Woman sitting next to me is reading some sort of religious tract. She's dressed in what I tend to think of as an "arty" fashion. Long loose brown hair, minimal makeup, flowing skirt.

          She notices me noticing what she's reading and turns to me:

          She: Do you know how many people died in the World Trade Towers?

          Me: <bewildered silence>

          She: Do you know more babies are killed every day by abortionists?

          Me: <angry> What's your point?

          Hostile silence until I got off at 34th St.

          I seriously thought about spitting on her book. Or stepping hard "accidentally" on her foot as I got up. I didn't do any of that, but I can still feel the absolute rage and contempt she engendered in me.

          by renska on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:09:03 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I truly wish I couldn't- (4.00 / 4)

            -but, sadly, I can beat that.

            My Steadfast Republican, Lifetime Military, Radical Christian uncle advised my grandmother, his mother, on her deathbed and mere hours before she passed, that she had best repent while she could or she would surely be going to hell.

            In a way, I am thankful I was not actually in the room. If I had, I'm sure unbridled rage would have been a mild description. My mother only told me after the funeral. I don't think I have felt such loathing for another human being before, and certainly hope I never do again.

            The instant dismissal of any thought not directly in line with his as atheistic, softheaded liberal commie bullshit I had come to expect. This was a conceptual gap that left me convinced I was dealing with an alien species.

            My Party, my Balls, my God are bigger and better than yours, so die and burn forever. Fuck You.

            by 7feet on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 05:02:39 PM PDT

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            •  If it is any consolation (4.00 / 2)

              If your grandmother was a kind and loving woman who cared deeply for her children, regardless of how rude they were to her, I have no doubt she let it pass without much hurt - she had more pressing concerns at that moment than her boneheaded son just being himself.

              Wingnuts hate Big Media cause it sometimes tells the truth.
              We should hate it for the rest of the time when it don't.
              Oh, also when they eat brains.

              by Ugluks Flea on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 05:59:08 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

            •  Ugh... (none / 0)

              And sorry.

              I probably shouldn't have introduced the element of "can you top this?" to the dialogue, and for that I apologize to both you and Unstable Isotope.

              It's amazing (in the mind-boggling sense), what the self-righteous can bring themselves to say, and do.

              by renska on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 07:24:27 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Apologies for the seeming non sequitur (none / 0)

                To anyone following this thread.

                Hey elveta -- I just wanted to bring you over to this thread because I don't think pastor-dan's post is the place to have this discussion.

                I'm sorry if it offends you to have it here since this thread seemed to disturb you but it would be even stranger to have it in another unrelated thread entirely. And I also don't like the idea of having it in pastor dan's thread -- think it runs counter to the tone that's building.

                And, full disclosure, I should point out that I've posted here, because I share the anger that many feel, but I've also posted in pastor dan's thread because I appreciate his intent.

                What it boiles down to is that think both diaries are valid and can coexist on this site.

                Basically, too much bile spewing and anger (and not enough action) -- not good, I agree.
                Conversely, too much love and forgiveness and understanding (and not enough spine and anger, as appropriate) -- also not good.

                Embrace the dichotomy. Or experience the contact high of mild cognitive dissonance if the two positions seem too antithetical too coexist. Or, whatever. But I think it's a mistake to characterize venting as simple-minded hate. Not that there may not be examples of hate, and simple-minded hate at that, but the vast majority is blowing off steam (and creating a feeling of solidarity), which is not such a bad thing,especially in the face of the kind of hate that is directed at us.

                Just my .02

                by renska on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 07:43:36 PM PDT

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              •  Just hit a spot (4.00 / 3)

                It was mind-boggling. And certainly not the sort of thing I would normally bring into public discourse. But it struck a nerve, having happened about 2 years ago now but still fresh. And I didn't think anyone was trying for one-up-manship in the realm of where "the opposition" will go, but I did think it was an indicative illustration of the, I believe, unsound depths of their ideology.

                She had a life long interest in other types of spiritual thought. Perhaps that's where her son thought she was damned. By all accounts, a proper Catholic who had an inquisitive mind and raised a passel of kids as a divorced mother during the 40's  and 50's. Entirely devoted to her children and grandchildren, even if her lessons seemed overly stern to us. She grew up in Brooklyn (10 years old in '29). Shared a pair of old galoshes (well tied together) with 3 brothers to go to school 1 day each, for 3 years. And ran away at 16 from parents who were intolerable.

                Maybe not the place for an elegy, but no matter.  She was the strongest, most resilient, most intelligently compassionate person I have ever met in person. She believed in justice, perservered when, over and over, she was told all was lost. She was and is my role model, and I can only hope I can maintain that spirit.

                In the end, after 30 years of doctors saying she  had at most 6 months, she decided, herself, it was time. She'd been read her last rites any number of times, and felt it adequate. Which was why I felt so primarily angry when I heard about my uncles statement. Can't a fundamentally good person die with dignity without an idealogue telling them that everything they have struggled for over the better part of a century is for nought if they don't agree with their particular view? It still makes me white-knuckled with anger.

                But that's why, even if I don't often speak, I frequent this place. I can get ideas, that I can  institute as I can in my community, that might just direct things towards what I have been taught, and believe to be right. Or, at the very least, not completely wrong.  I know what actual compassion is.

                by 7feet on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 11:02:43 PM PDT

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                •  Compassion is the key (none / 0)

                  She was graced with it, and her son was not.

                  That self-righteous streak we find in our opposition is akin to selfishness -- it's an inability to see beyond their own lives, and a delight, or a need, to see themselves as right.

                  There's usually no attempt to teach, or lead gently, to a different conclusion. It's do it my way, or else. "I'm only doing it for your own good."

                  My dad was born in '29 (in Queens) so he doesn't remember as much of the Great Depression as your grandmother did. But he certainly remembers some of it. As does my mom ('32).

                  by renska on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 06:05:45 AM PDT

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    •  That's one of the best UID I've seen. n/t (none / 0)

      McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist

      by sgilman on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:38:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  My friend, while visiting his evangelical sister, (4.00 / 7)

      finished a can of soda and asked her:

      "Where do you put your recycling?"

      His teenaged (and home-schooled) niece looked to her mother and said, "what's recycling?"

      The mother replied, "When Jesus comes back, he's gonna build us a whole new world. We don't have to worry about recycling."

      This is a true story.

      "...hope is not the equivalent of optimism. Its opposite is not pessimism but despair. So I'm always hopeful." William Sloane Coffin

      by mxwing on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 04:39:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Wow... (none / 0)

      Her snide response: "I leave recycling to Democrats and tree huggers."

      Astounding. The contempt your neighbors have toward their fellow American citizens' health is certainly noteworthy, but perhaps even more so is their own self-destructive streak. As if simply not being a "treehugger" were enough to protect oneself and one's chldren from mercury poisoning, to give just one example.

      "I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president." -Gen. Clark

      by assyrian64 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 07:16:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Well... (4.00 / 2)

      Those separate bins ARE kind of a hassle!

      Perhaps you should begin tossing your recycling items into their back yard. Maybe their yappy mutt will bleed to death after gnawing on a Coke bottle!

      Democrats: For the health, prosperity and security of every single American.

      by alysheba on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 10:31:34 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Amazing (none / 0)

      I recycle cans, and not really for enviromental reasons, either: I drink enough soda that when I take them to recycling center, I get ten or twenty bucks back, at least.  I thought making money was a Republican trait? :-P

      by Geotpf on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 08:39:26 AM PDT

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  •  I'm not a Republican, (3.84 / 13)

    but my dad was. He wasn't Christian. He had one small house. It was not in a gated community. He didn't hate homosexuals. He often admitted to being wrong. He cried when he watched Apocalypse Now. He was never rich. He paid his taxes and collected disability checks from the Social Security Administration. I could go on. Fuck you.

    by influenzo on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:14:16 PM PDT

    •  Republicans I Knew Like That (4.00 / 15)

      Republicans I knew like that vote Democratic now.

      Welcome to the Great Foreclosure.

      by bink on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:16:21 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  re (4.00 / 9)

      The republicans of our father's age were TOTALLY different types of republicans. Being smart enough to visit this site, I would think you know the true difference and gather she was not talking about the Rs of our father's age...but instead of the selfish f@cks that have led our sons and daughters to war on a lie and now seek to destroy the very institution of Social Security that you, I and your father supported.

      "Steve Holt pays his property taxes. John McCain does not." - Steve Holt

      by cookiesandmilk on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:19:01 PM PDT

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    •  Knew I would offend some (4.00 / 19)

      This diary is not about reasonable, thoughtful, regular, old fashioned republicans like your Dad  (and several of my relatives.)

      Its about the new version we are currently up against, that has hijacked this nation.

      Its sort of awkward to put a disclaimer in every rant.  I apologize for offending you.  (I can't seem to get over that soft hearted liberal thing... you know, willingness to take responsibility for my actions and their consequences, compassion for the feelings of others...)

      "I don't want to name names, but they know themselves." Koffi Annan

      by Sue in NH on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:21:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  disclaimers (4.00 / 30)

        I am pretty tired of people becoming oh so offended when those on the left actually show that they are ready to fight.

        What is wrong with everyone?

        Carlysle Group?
        Carnivore?
        Eschaton?
        PATRIOT Act?

        WAKE UP PEOPLE.  The war that is at hand has nothing to do with our diction, our discourse, or the breadth of our discussions.

        Please.  Vent.  Early and often, and hope to hell it wakes someone, somewhere out of their slumber.  I have kids, you know?

        This isn't an exercise in philosophy anymore.  This isn't about laying out arguments or ensuring that both sides have equal say.

        It's not going to be some pretty transfer of power with flags and diplomats and some super jumbo prawns in an exclusive UN luncheon.

        ~570 billionaires.
        6.1+ billion of us.

        Stop bitching.
        Start a revolution.

        Dick Cheney Eats Babies

        by chester666 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:31:46 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Venting (none / 0)

          is not fighting.

          I don't think we should be too interested in outventing the freepers.  I doubt we'll win, and if we do, we've still lost.

          I think you said it best:

          Stop Bitching
          Start a Revolution

          truth will out

          by Responsible on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:38:30 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  you are right (none / 0)

            I should have said:

            "I am pretty tired of people becoming oh so offended when those on the left actually show that they are ready to complain.

            Since, that's all the majority ever does."

            God forbid we cut the billioanires off their precious addiction.

            Dick Cheney Eats Babies

            by chester666 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 04:12:21 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  No way - no apology needed (4.00 / 2)

        My mother is an old fashioned Republican too. Actually, the only reason she became a Republican was to prove that she was one step above her seven brothers and sisters who were all fairly poor and never left the city for the suburbs. If you asked her describe what Republicans stand for, she'd be hard pressed to name one thing. She lives entirely off of social security and is not religious. And I tell her "fuck you" all the time when it comes to politics.

        by Proud SW FL Lib on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:44:27 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Sue: Don't apologize. (4.00 / 2)

        Ever hear Bush apologize for anything at all? What about Cheney? Frist? Delay? Rush? ANY OF THOSE FUCKING ANTI-AMERICAN FASCIST BASTARDS?

        Now, to be very rational about it all, not every Republican is consumed with greed or self-interest, and is biased to the point of hatred against everyone else in the entire fucking world. Some are just woefully uninformed or apathetic. Some are actually well-meaning, but have just been completely bamboozled by the constant lies of the elected Republicans that they stupidly voted for and stupidly think should be wothy of their trust.

        Generally, however, you have absolutely nailed the mentality of the majority of Republicans. Great job.

        by attydave on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:20:53 PM PDT

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      •  I'm so glad I grew up in Bklyn (4.00 / 2)

           In Brooklyn people say Fuck so much that nobody is really bothered by it.  The whole rest of the United States has pathetically thin skin in IMO.  Loved the diary because sometimes you do just have to rant.  The downside to Brooklyn speech is that if you really mean it you have to say Fuck 'em dry!

        Bush - the New Hoover. He really sucks.

        by slick riddles on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 06:28:48 PM PDT

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      •  Apology accepted. (none / 1)

        You ranted, so I ranted. I feel better, and I hope you feel better too. I hereby withdraw my "fuck you."

        by influenzo on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 08:29:32 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  True story: (3.90 / 11)

      Mom (after 4th of July 2004): I'm so glad to see so many people leaving their flags up. I didn't want to one up because then people  might think I was a Republican:
      Me: <blank look> But Mom, you are a Republican.
      <beat>
      Mom: Oh yeah.

      by renska on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:30:31 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  asdf (none / 1)

        My uncle's dad (who was a Berkely professor): These damn yahoo Texans are ruining everything!
        My uncle: But Dad, you're a Texan!
        My uncle's dad: (sheepishly/sadly) Oh, I know.  It's really too bad.

        mbr + dv + woyg

        by keirdubois on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:46:12 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Amazing how many Texans (none / 0)

          I met at Cal.  They were all sheepish.

          "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Trudeau

          by fishhead on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:03:08 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Can't help where you're born... (4.00 / 3)

          At this point, my mother is a registered Republican for 5 reasons...

          1. She doesn't want to feel chased away
          2. She enjoys filling out the surveys they send her (is the Republican party on the right track or the wrong track?)
          3. She gets to say "I'm a Republican -- have been for the past 50 years -- and I disagree with Bush/the party/whomever because...
          4. She gets to vote in the primaries

          And then, of course,

          5. She'll never actually get around to changing her party affiliation.

          by renska on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:16:00 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I'm still officially (none / 1)

            a member of the United Methodist Church.  I've been once (Christmas, as a favor to Mom) in the past ten years.  I'm nominally atheist, but I just haven't gotten around to having my name removed.  I wonder if they know?

            I am a revolting homosexual!

            by MAJeff on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 06:04:43 PM PDT

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    •  My dad's a Republican (4.00 / 4)

      and I say FUCK them.

      At least he decided not to vote in the elections. As he put it "I could vote for the bag of air or the brain of air. Why vote?"

      Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity, only not as much fun.

      by Toktora on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:33:07 PM PDT

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    •  Do you know why he voted Republican?? (none / 0)

      I am curious -- I hear comments like yours off and on -- but so far no-one has been able to tell me the reason why --

      other than -- they have always voted Republican

      which of course in the end means nothing

      "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

      by sara seattle on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 02:40:15 PM PDT

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      •  He veered pretty heavily (none / 0)

        along the libertarian line. As I mentioned in my piece, he liked Social Security, but for the most part he was suspicious of government intervention in American life. That applied to both the economic and the cultural spheres. He thought abortion should be legal; he also thought pot, acid, heroin, etc should be legal. He probably would've said his main reason for preferring the Republican Party over the Democratic Party was because Republicans wouldn't expand the power of the state bureaucracy as excessively as Democrats (he was mistaken, by the way).

        by influenzo on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 08:29:07 AM PDT

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        •  Sounds like a Libertarian to me (none / 0)

          Not a Reublican (especially not these days).  I wish the other side were Libertarians instead of warmonging theocrats.

          In fact, I'm a *Liberal*tarian.  That is, I think drugs/prostitution/gambling/etc. should be legal (but taxed fairly heavily), and I think the government should not ban anything that doesn't harm others (but can support or oppose things via taxes or subsidies).  But I also think the government should provide services that the free market can not or will not provide (I'm for socialized medicine, for example-the free market ain't cutting it), and charge taxes to pay for it.  I am also rather isolationist, in more than just opposing the Iraq war (why do we have troops in Japan, Germany, and South Korea-these countries can afford thier own damned armies), and think we spend too much on the military in general (we spend as much as every other country on the planet-combined).

          by Geotpf on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 08:57:37 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I think a lot of (none / 0)

            libertarian-leaning Republicans failed (and fail) to see the connection between America's expansionist foreign policy and the growth of government power here at home. Unfortunately, this was the case with my dad. It's tough to generalize about him, because his views evolved over time. He was an ardent Cold Warrior, but after the collapse of the Soviet Union, he became isolationist. He opposed the first Gulf War and the war in Kosovo. But I think 9/11 mangled his brain, which might've already been deteriorating a little anyway, so he was pretty hardcore on the "War on Terror" at the end. I tried to get him to read antiwar.com, that great libertarian antiwar website, but to no avail. Anyway, I agree with what you said. I'd like to see American bases dismantled in Japan, South Korea, Uzbekistan, and countless other places. But at the moment, the main imperative is that we don't get to keep the ones we're building in Iraq.

            by influenzo on Mon Feb 07, 2005 at 09:25:11 AM PDT

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    •  Try it, everyone's drinking it (4.00 / 5)

      <sigh>

      And it isn't good for anything.

      on strike.

      by daria g on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 03:14:38 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  hate to point this out (none / 1)

        but the REPUBLICANS fucked up our country so let's FUCK THEM UP and those dumbasses that voted against democrats because they think we are all tax and spend, or all progay or baby killers! FUCK THOSE IGNORANT BIGOTS, EVERYTHING SINGLE ONE OF THEM THAT VOTED FOR BUSH BECAUSE THAT'S IS WHAT THEY ALL DESERVE!!

        because I know they all deserve to be fucked!!

        RIGHTEOUS GOD IS ON MY SIDE, FUCK THE REPUBLICANS

        FUCK MY SHIFT KEY

        hey, why rate me down when i am "venting"?

        visit www.thehungersite.com everyday to save lives

        by Stampy51 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 07:20:57 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  please! (none / 0)

      but what if it is about her dad or any someone's mom or even them?  tacitly approving their bullshit just because you don't want to pay higher taxes or the similar "fiscal" excuses doesn't make up for the way they treat people in very personal and concrete ways.  it ain't the same party; they don't deserve the same detached tolerance.  

      by wearewatching on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 04:33:49 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  this is NOT (4.00 / 6)

      your father's Republican party.

      John McCain supports Bush's Iraq policy

      by Alna Dem on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 05:52:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  And your dad would probably be (4.00 / 3)

      horrified by the cesspool the Republican party has turned into. At least, I hope so.

      My grandparents were Republicans.  I'm not sure what they would think if they could see this bunch.  My father is a retired military officer, rightwing as the come, makes jokes about Martin Loother Coon, and his answer to every Republican lie and atrocity is that Clinton got away with it.

      When I point out that he's saying that a double standard should apply - bad for Clinton to do certain things, fine for Bush - he changes the subject.  Another way of saying, Fuck You.

      by Cambridgemac on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 05:58:48 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Your dad (2.50 / 2)

      helped put people like Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan etc etc in power.

      He helped the right wing in their war against the poor, against minorities, against humanity.
      He helped the GOP in its battle to destroy the environment. In its empire fantasies. In sending 50,000 american men to die in for Nothing.

      Fuck You.

      I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever TJ

      by cdreid on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 07:38:03 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Well, (none / 0)

        my mom is a Democrat, but she voted for Reagan and George H.W. Bush (the first one). So "fuck her" too. Right? Come to think of it, lots of Democrats voted for Reagan and Bush. They were called "Reagan Democrats." Fuck THEM!!!!! Fuck everyone who's not with us, because if you're not with us, you're against us.

        by influenzo on Sun Feb 06, 2005 at 08:17:35 PM PDT

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        •  you're taking this much too seriously (none / 1)

          give it a rest, please. How many times does Sue have to say she was venting -- then makes two apologies to individuals.

          As she said, she wasn't able to create customized caveats for all the variations of those offended.

          Have you ever heard a George Carlin routine? Should we lock him up for offending you?

          Just give it a rest. The Republicans of today spew venom. And she's commenting on it, that's all.

          And I know, "My Republican Family" are all like that exactly -- and they're all highly educated.

          .
          .
          .
          .
          I think Sue probably had a lot more restriant than most would, frankly.

          Afterall, you didn't see her say these things that MY family says:

          "The niggas just have more liked so they can collect more welfare. So FUCK YOU, ya nigga lover."

          or

          "The liberal media is all run by a bunch of kikes. So FUCK YOU, ya Jew-lover"

          .
          .

          Shall I go on, or will you quit whining?