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A major Boston daily has run tomorrow's Kucinich impeachment action prominently, silence from the rest in this area.  But the right-wing does not wait or depend on newspapers to tell them when something is up.  They make it their business, and they build their own networks.  By the time the congressmen are done fielding the right-wing's phone calls their heads are spinning.

I just called myself and got a snippy little intern who promised she'd transfer me to a person when I asked her how Mike Capuano intended to vote, and she said "that's not public yet."  I got a machine.  I called back and asked her to take a general message, which she was nice about.  I told her I was a constituent and spelled out my name and gave my zip code when she asked, and said "I EXPECT the Congressman to vote to support the impeachment of Dick Cheney tomorrow, and to vote against tabling, or killing, H.Res. 333."  

The right-wing is so effective because they lobby EACH OTHER, calling to make sure that, in addition to making their own calls,...

they get at least two other friends, or "subnetworks" to do it.  Swamp the lines, tell dad or sis this is the number, this is what you say.  These guys work for US, are paid by OUR tax DOLLARS.  THEY don't tell YOU what's going to happen, YOU tell THEM.  Then follow it up with an email supporting your points for  the impeachment of these cruel and heartless men, who will litter the ground with torn Iranian babies if we let them.  7:30 pm my EST, plenty of night to go.  I've got 2 other people to check on to make sure they have left their message.  Why ain't this in main Kos page?

Even if HR.333 is tabled, which it could well be, the point is to fire the shot across the bow that tells Congress we're on this, and we're not going away.  Flash: Another candidate has challenged an anti-impeachment congressman in a primary, Bob Feuer for 1st District Massachusetts against John Olver (includes Amherst.)  If your congressman says "we don't want to jeopardize the 2008 election," just tell him "Country before party, congressman.  Some things are more important than politics."

congress (tell operator your zip code if you don't know which one):

email congress    talking points

...He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power...

...For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury...

...For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments...

       --Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence

Originally posted to Sue4theBillofRights on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 04:55 PM PST.

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  •  Tags repaired. (2+ / 0-)
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    ricsec7, HoosierDeb

    Because everyone has one. Having credibility when making an argument is the straightest path to persuasion.

    by SpamNunn on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 05:04:49 PM PST

  •  Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11), (6+ / 0-)

    whose district splits Cleveland with Kucinich (OH-10), is not supporting impeachment.  Her DC office said it would slow down work on other issues.

    Of course you know what I said to that.

  •  I have signed every petition calling for Bush and (5+ / 0-)

    Cheney's impeachment and called my Congress members in support of HR.333!  Also, I have rec'd your diary!  Your right, this should be a main page story at DKos tonight and all week!

    "All of you can read the signs of the earth and sky.  How is it you can't read the signs of the times?"

  •  There's only a year to go (0+ / 0-)

    Do we really want to be stuck in the muck of that?  My guess is that President Bush is about to hand over the reigns.

    By the time all that is done and money wasted he'll be out of office.

    All of us have to recognize that we owe our children more than we have been giving them. -- Hillary Clinton

    by Peter Deane on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 05:35:02 PM PST

    •  the nutcase is threatening wwIII and vetoed (5+ / 0-)

      health insurance for children.  you want to wait 14 months to see what else he might do?  or do you want to nip it in the bud now?

      •  How long does an impeachment take? (0+ / 0-)

        Just wondering.

        All of us have to recognize that we owe our children more than we have been giving them. -- Hillary Clinton

        by Peter Deane on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 06:02:50 PM PST

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        •  my notes tell me (5+ / 0-)

          that it took about 5 months for nixon to resign once impeachment hearings built momentum.  clinton's impeachment took four months.  most importantly, impeachment put nixon on notice and it was during his impeachment that congress passed and nixon signed bulls that included: increasing min wage, extending environmental ed act, expanding and making permanent the youth conservation corps, creating and expanding wildlife refuges, creating the national institute on aging, funding research for cancer and aids, providing diasaster relief.  while holding hearings on watergate, congress passed and nixon signed the endangered species act.  and during the watergate trial we got our of vietnam.  chances are impeachment could slow the crazies down.  and by not impeaching we send the message that they can act with impunity.

          •  Well said (0+ / 0-)

            Conchita, thank you for expressing this so well.  With your permission, I would like to send this out to our members on NEIC (with spell-check) and add it to our talking points on the website. One of the main objections we receive from the "can't-walk-and-chew-gum" congressional reps is that impeachment would take too much time. Of course it will not, once the process is started. Especially since all the evidence has already been compiled by the Judiciary Committee - simply enter it into the record.  We have time - but the clock it ticking.  Let's get started now!

        •  It could take as little as a few days (2+ / 0-)
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          conchita, HoosierDeb

          if there was already broad support in Congress (that is, if Congress were listening to their constituents), but would likely take at least a few months, if the agents of the empire don't shut it down.

          -9.88,-7.59 Just because empire is an ugly word doesn't mean you're not living in one.

          by real democracy on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 07:29:24 PM PST

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  •  wondering if anyone here was on the call with dk? (2+ / 0-)
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    pseudopod, HoosierDeb

    when i tried to call in, i was told the call was full.  wonder how many people were on and what was said.  if anyone has any info, please pass it on.  much appreciated.

    •  11/5/07 Conference call with Dennis Kucinich (1+ / 0-)
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      Yes, I dialed in. But there was a technical snafu (more evidence of shenanigans?)  Even though there was not to be a limit on the number of calls, more than 80 had called in during the 1/2 hour prior to the time slated for the call.  Then Dennis had the wrong number to call in.  He himself was not able to get through until 1/2 hour late.  Once the latecomers were able to sign on, they could all hear one another and it was garbled mess.  When they muted it to correct the garbling, only David Swanson of could hear Dennis. Below is what he reports:

      Congressman Dennis Kucinich said on a conference call Monday evening that after moving to impeach Vice President Cheney on Tuesday he will also introduce, at a future date, a resolution to impeach President Bush. Or rather, he would have said that on the conference call if not for several technical SNAFUs.

      The call was advertised as a one-way call on which only Kucinich could speak, but Kucinich was unable to get through because of the incredible number of people on the call (I have no count yet, but the dings of the new people coming on were a steady stream of noise for half an hour).

      So Kucinich phoned me, and I held one of my phones up to another so that everyone on the call could hear him. That was working fine for about 20 seconds, until the geniuses running the call chose that moment to mute everyone except Dennis (without stopping to realize that by muting me they were muting Dennis). So, Kucinich gave a nice speech through my phones, but I was the only one listening.

      Here's what he said. He is going to introduce a privileged resolution on the floor of the U.S. House Tuesday morning to force a vote on his resolution to impeach Cheney (H Res 333). While that bill includes offenses related to Iraq and Iran , Kucinich plans to focus his remarks on Iran and the fact that the current Pentagon bill includes funding to retrofit bombers to carry 15-ton bombs.

      Kucinich said he would hold a press conference at 3 p.m. in 2456 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington , D.C., and would post on his House website and at an account of what transpired on the floor.

      He said that there might be an actual debate on the substance of the charges, for which he said he was prepared, or there might be a motion to table the matter (effectively killing it if successful), or it might be referred to a committee. If it is sent to committee, Kucinich, said, it will be the House Judiciary Committee. I asked whether (as has been done with impeachment resolutions in the past) he would be able to insist on a time limit for the committee to report back. Kucinich seemed unsure whether that could be done, but proposed that whether or not the matter is sent to committee he might start a discharge petition as another tool for forcing real action on the floor of the House.

      Currently H Res 333 sits in the Constitution Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee, where Chairman Jerrold Nadler has done nothing with it for months.

      Kucinich expressed great appreciation for what all the activist groups and individuals on the call are doing to help promote impeachment. He also wanted to let everyone know that he will not only continue pushing for the impeachment of Cheney but will also take up the impeachment of Bush with a new resolution.

      This was terrific to hear. I wish I had not been the only one to hear it.

  •  Thank you (0+ / 0-)

    especially for yuor point about the "sub-networks."  

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