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Opol had the composure to put together the diary that I wanted to.
Wise Up and Rise Up – or Kiss It All Goodbye

So the best I could do is cross-post my sub-rant that he inspired in me that flowed out in the comments of his most excellent thump to the head.

This place is my therapy; I tried to quit cold-turkey last week when I found myself becoming dangerously unhinged in public and thought I could just go back to watching movies and cartoons or even turning it off altogether and going back to wearing out my iPod with Beethoven and heavy metal. (the good 70's and 80's kind, with real guitar heroes)

You may have noticed I failed in that effort. So here's one more swing with my angst: Thanks OPOL for winding me up...

OPOL, you inspire me. BUT, I think we may have already lost.

I wish I could be FP for just an hour to float my ideas in front of the 150,000 of us, and see if I can't plant a seed in the larger conscience of America.

The reason we can't sell the truth to the American people - even amongst many of the liberals on our team - is the lack of capacity for shame (or an overabundance of pride, take your pick).

We are supposed to be the shining city on a hill.

We are supposed to be the Gold Standard for freedom, justice, and government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Shit, we're so arrogant that we think it's a good thing to cram democracy down the throat of who we feel deserves it using the most powerful military humankind has ever assembled.

And we have the freedom to elect anyone who is qualified, we have the freedom to protest any irregularities in that election process and rectify them, and we also have a constitutionally mandated system for removing corrupt leaders without so much as one shot having been fired. And look at the unforgivable lying fraud we have left in power for almost eight years. If I were the world, I'd be pissed too.

And if I were a typical American, I'd be ashamed or in denial, one or the other. Guess which one of these two camps has more members...

So in the end, we're just going to keep masturbating ourselves with noble stories of how great our founders once were and hope that somehow our continued choruses of America the Beautiful and God Bless America and The Star Spangled Banner can still drown out the cries of "Not In Our Name!"

We can't handle the truth. Any country that can put a lie about a blowjob above a systematic perversion of the Constitution of the United States of America for the purpose of justifying a war for oil by hundreds of government officials and corporate sponsors, will eventually find itself in a world of shit.

Perhaps you've noticed that's the case now.

Our future lies in our yet to be discovered capacity for shame - like Harry Taylor asked of the Unforgivable W - can we admit that we screwed our own pooch, and have the humility to ask the world and even our own consciences for another chance to be the country we claim to be?

I'm in a terrible state, because I keep screaming truth to my neighbors, family, and friends. I can't be quiet any longer, I can't be polite just so they don't wince when they hear it, and I can't be quiet and pretend it doesn't keep me up nights and make my food taste funny.

I'm another pissed off merican - I don't care if I'm labelled liberal, progressive, conservative, libertarian, or zoroastrian. The one question I keep asking is why there has not been some inter-galactic trade council representative sent here in a space/time warp capsule to slap us with the mother of all fines for having the gall to still use the word "United" in the name of our country. The only thing that unites this place is the collective schadenfreude we use to claim we're still OK as long as we can find someone else who's worse.

Well, goddammit, claiming the higher moral ground means that you have to actually stand on that ground at some point. And in the last seven years what I have seen is that we are content to think we're still at the top of the heap as long as we can find someone else who's done worse than we have.

Doesn't work that way, nevermind the fact that there is no bottom to that race. If we're content simply because we're marginally better than someone else who's more despised than we are, there's no pride in that for a noble people who are honest with themselves.

I'm going to go on for another dozen pages if I tell you about the lies and the bullshit and the delusions that are taking hold on my town. McCain's gutter campaign is working, and working WELL with my family, neighbors, and former friends. I'm fucking sick to my stomach, enraged to the point where I cannot speak to anyone without losing control, and I absolutely will not put the brakes on so I can still be polite.

It was that kind of bullshit denial and delusions of nobility and just cause that got us here. I'm now fully committed to unadulterated doses of real truth and a ban on temper-soothing chasers until we wake up and realize that isn't coffee we smell.

Thanks OPOL. Proud to be APOL right next to you.

Originally posted to snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:20 AM PDT.

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  •  All my tip jars go up at 3 AM...no wonder (25+ / 0-)

    I'm still hungry...the rest of you are smart enough to be asleep until I get pushed off the recent diaries list.

    oh well.

    ding my cup. I'm feeling lonely here in the land where Hillary won the primary 9 to 1 and McCain is still considered a Maverick.

    "Obama is a muslim" (cousin)
    "Obama kills babies" (other cousin)
    "Obama is the antichrist"(Confused Catholic neighbor who doesn't realize that the end-times eschatology is the domain of Evangelical Protestants because he's stuck on Fox and AM radio)

    George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

    by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:24:24 AM PDT

    •  Half the week (3+ / 0-)
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      snafubar, WI Dem, magicsister

      I would be up at 3 a.m. with you...

      Glad I caught this, anyway: it's a good rant, and I'm afraid you're right.  

      Our economy is a house of cards. Don't breathe.

      by Youffraita on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 06:02:37 AM PDT

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      •  I really do apologize about finally being right (0+ / 0-)

        about the shit that really measures how far we're screwed. I'd like to be right about the light and fluffy and happy shit, but that's not only too easy it's never very rewarding.

        Sigh.

        Doestoyevsky was the one who said that the smartest guy in the room was also going to be the one who was most unhappy.

        George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

        by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:11:27 PM PDT

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    •  I've been in your boat. (4+ / 0-)
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      Caring so much I start to doubt my sanity.  I've been told to lighten up and my family members' eyes glaze over now, but I can't seem to shut up.  

      I'm trying to channel it....three letters to the editor, countless postings to an "anonymous" portion of the local paper, but so far, none of that has even seen the light of day.  

      The part that makes me the nuttiest is that no one ever says anything good about McCain, or why he would be wonderful...it's all about how scary Obama is.  

      I just want to cry!!  When did Americans get so stupid and shallow?

      •  That's the worst sign, isn't it? Even when MCSame (0+ / 0-)

        is the only chess piece they've got left on the board, they won't admit he's a pawn and not a Queen, Knight, Rook or even King. (the whole purpose of the game, who can only move one step at a time...yep, he's a king)

        A manager at a box store I once worked for (and got fired from becuase of my temper) said to me,

        "You've got to learn to let it go."

        I had an epiphany at that moment, and said,

        "Don't you realize that the only reason the fucking problem landed in my lap in the first place is because the other fifty people who had a chance to fix it before me decided to 'let it go'? So I'm supposed to soothe myself by passing it on to some other poor bastard so the problem is even bigger when it lands in his lap?"

        I'm pissed for sure, but there's no other way I'd rather be given the situation. Deluded does not translate to happy.

        Oh, and Americans got stupid and shallow after their ancestors worked hard enough to make their life comfortable and easier for them; then they got complacent, indifferent, and lazy thinking it would stay like that without any effort.

        Not working out too well. So more of the McSame is not going to help.

        Thanks for the commisseration.

        George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

        by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:08:31 PM PDT

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  •  I, too, am turning lunatic. (5+ / 0-)

    Especially after I read this.

    http://www.alternet.org/...

    Please, God. Please make this not true.

    •  Hey...I was already broken and pissed. (6+ / 0-)

      I said I was frustrated, demoralized, and unhinged, and you sent me to read that?

      Aw....now I gotta clean up all this rant I spilt all over the place.

      I'm not happy I read that article at all, and yet you and I both realize that we had to, and now our job is to make some other person as pissed off about it as we are.

      Are we the only ones who think it's truly perverted that the largest military force in the world is out pretending to teach other countries what democracy is all about, when here at home the one we're so proud of is being betrayed?

      I agree - please may it not be true. But we atheists realize that God's not going to save us so one of us mere mortals has got to get up off our asses and get it done by force of mere mortals.

      So here is my humble effort, I thank you for yours.

      George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

      by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:34:53 AM PDT

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      •  I'm sorry, Snafu. (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm so tired...it's 3 am...and I didn't read your diary as carefully as I should have. If I hadn't been such an ass--and sleep-deprived--I would have kept it to myself.

        I don't know why I still come to DK. It's not good for me, and it's not good for anyone else, either.

        For what it's worth, I'm sorry. I should just shut the fuck up and go quietly crazy on my own.

        •  and don't worry: (1+ / 0-)
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          I won't give up. Promise.

          •  I get by with a little help from my friends. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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            George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

            by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 02:15:09 AM PDT

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            •  Count Me as One of Them, SFB. 8-J (1+ / 0-)
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              I have humiliated myself in public repeatedly. It scares me. But staying home isn't the answer. I don't know what is.

              I no longer read The New York Times for the news, I read it for the lie. --Chalmers Johnson

              by JG in MD on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 07:48:52 AM PDT

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              •  It's never humiliating even when they're all (1+ / 0-)
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                staring at you in disbelief, as long as you know you were standing on the right ground.

                Don't forget that.

                I've been uncomfortably aware that I was very, very, alone a lot lately too - but I've never been humiliated if I was convinced I said something so noble and worthy of defending that the reason I stood out was because I was amongst shallow cowards who either didn't know better, or could not admit the truth to themselves that I was right.

                The answer is perseverence. And friends.

                Carry on. :)

                oh, I mean 8-J

                Is there a middle eastern/Jewish version?

                Like 8---J  ?

                Probably a little too esoteric and sterotypical. Definitely not very PC....

                Sorry. It's late again. I'll go to bed now....

                George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

                by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:17:49 PM PDT

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        •  Do me a favor and read my other (2+ / 0-)
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          diary

          I'm not really pissed you gave me the bad news; you should be able to see I'm surviving on a steady diet of the stuff. Spite, frustration, and bitterness can be a powerful motivator.

          It's kept me alive for over a decade now.

          Whatever you do, don't STFU now...we need to bang drums wherever we can find them and make sure no one can sleep until they wake up...

          (that's a puzzling metaphor, but I like it)

          George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

          by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:42:21 AM PDT

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          •  Loved your other diary. (3+ / 0-)
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            They locked you up for four days, and your insurance doesn't pay? How positively Brazil--the movie, not the place.

            I noted, too, that you live in Hazelton. You poor bastard. But shed a tear for me too: I live in Berks County. :)

            •  Hey - at least Berks county isn't 500 yards (0+ / 0-)

              from Carbon county. How would you like to live next to a place that is named after the source of the economic engine that is now long gone which is the new name for why the planet is screwed?

              Thanks for the commiseration; and at the end of the day after all my vomit I can't hold back for Bush and his band of merry monsters, I'd still rather be in this country than any other.

              That said, it doesn't in any way mean that I can't be honest about the truth that our founders would kick our nuts into our chest if they could see what we've done with their ideas. It's time to realize that 'of the people, by the people, and for the people' means all people, not just rich and connected people.

              George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

              by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:23:04 AM PDT

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          •  I remember that diary too (1+ / 0-)
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            snafubar

            I thought you might be a friend of mine!  I worry about him too...

            I still don't have any wise words to share with you except this:

            Your anger means you still care.

            Don't stop caring.

            I don't want to come on here someday and see you posting a diary titled:

            I Love Big Brother.

            Obama/Feingold - that's the ticket!

            by abrauer on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:25:45 AM PDT

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            •  Oh, you made my last four years. (3+ / 0-)
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              WI Dem, Youffraita, abrauer

              to hear that someone recognizes that the anger means I still care - holy shit - that's what I've been swinging for the whole time, to a constant chorus of "you can't change anything so you might as well just pipe down".

              Having written those words, you must then know how truly meaningful they are to me to be able to read them. Thank you.

              I've always been bewildered by people who think that just because someone else is smiling that all is well, or that just because someone is screaming and frothing at the mouth that we're in trouble. Sometimes, the angry sonofabitch is the only hope that anything will ever change, and the smiling clown can be an empty facade that is just painted on to delude everyone and keep them distracted from how bad it really is.

              I was born in upstate NY, and at the age of 12 wound up in North Carolina. All I heard about was southern hospitality and how pissed off Yankees were. And I found during my ten years there that the southerners surely did smile a lot more - so that they could distract you while they were screwing you a new hole. And the "angry" Yankees were not so much full of angst and vinegar, but were at least honest about what was going on. It wasn't their fault that there was not always good news to convey with a smile.

              I'd rather have an honest curmudgeon than a smiling charlattan any time I have a choice.

              I care, therefore I'm intense. Thank you for the recognition. I hope this helps convey how far that simple acknowlegement will carry me.

              George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

              by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 02:13:48 AM PDT

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              •  I'm genuinely touched, snafubar (1+ / 0-)
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                To know that a few well-chosen words from an anonymous stranger can sustain another human being in these dark times reminds me of why we must win, and why we will win.  Eyes are welling here, friend.

                Obama/Feingold - that's the ticket!

                by abrauer on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:14:04 AM PDT

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                •  10 Q. Now...make me famous. I want to be able (0+ / 0-)

                  to rant like this for a living if people think I'm so good at it.

                  Fucking Limbaugh and O'Reilly can't have all the fun....

                  :0

                  Non Illegitimus CarborundumDon't let the bastards wear you down.

                  Thanks for the encouragement, we shall sustain each other

                  George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

                  by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 11:52:38 AM PDT

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    •  the question isn't who Obama's getting (3+ / 0-)
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      money from, it's who he'll really govern for after getting elected. If it's the people as a whole, we have a chance for positive change.

      If it's simply more K Street with cooler symbolism, we effectively have Bush's third term (or Bill Clinton's). . . and the decisions to change the course of America to a survivable one won't be taken in time.

      Minor consequence - this would make Obama a one-term President and the Democrats will lose Congress in 2010 in the new resurgence of the K Street dominated GOP.

      The real economic pain of the American people won't be addressed by an Obama governing for K Street and America will vote agin' it in with the only choice which will have been left the nation.

      And the resources that could have been used to fix things will be precisely the ones Obama co-opted. In the event of a K Street victory, many people who voted for Obama the first time around won't be in any financial condition to donate in 2010 or 2012 due to the increasingly screwed condition of the nation affecting us personally.

      IOW, in the case of Obama governing for K Street, America has no future, either. We'll know who Obama's working for within a year of his taking office. If it becomes increasingly obvious that it's K Street, it'll be time to bail. Before nations around the world close their borders to American "economic refugees".

      Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:54:19 AM PDT

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      •  Don't break my spirit so soon. I have to give the (3+ / 0-)
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        man the benefit of the doubt, given the alternative.

        If McCain wins, K Street will rule the country.

        If Obama wins, he's made overtures that he will put up the barracades at both ends of K street, and given how right you are about the future if he does not...

        ...well, let's just say that this atheists believes in something...

        don't ruin it for me before it's actually ruined.

        George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

        by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:59:08 AM PDT

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        •  after Obama wins (3+ / 0-)
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          we can be among the people who pressure him to do the right thing afterwards. (given what his health care and energy plans look like, it isn't like we don't have obvious targets)

          With Obama, we might have a chance at a prosperous, free country. With "Insane", we have no chance other than to get the hell out whether we can afford it or not. Police state in progress aside, America will become a nation of poverty and misery after a Bush third term and things won't ever get better. Even with a decent President, it'll be too late and the resources (i.e. what's left of America's credit) needed to fix things will have been maxed out and transferred to the shortly to become expat Richistani.

          I'm willing to work to get America some chance at the future and wait and see what Obama will actually do if elected. If I were convinced that things were already irretrievably fucked, I'd stop posting here and concentrate on finding VCs willing to finance my alternative energy high-tech startup outside the USA on a "cut the best deal I can" basis.

          Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

          by alizard on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:20:12 AM PDT

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          •  Obama talks about building a movement (2+ / 0-)
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            that doesn't end on election day.  It means opening up the butcher's shop of Congress so we can see the sausage being made and comment on the ingredients before it's served to us as dinner.

            Obama/Feingold - that's the ticket!

            by abrauer on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:22:49 AM PDT

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            •  Wasnt it Will Rogers who said that laws were like (1+ / 0-)
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              sausage - you don't want to see either one of them in the process of being made?

              George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

              by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:24:27 AM PDT

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            •  and we know who's giving him money besides us (0+ / 0-)

              at least those of us who clicked the link to the article discussing McCain's and Obama's K Street donors.

              What we don't know is who he's going to govern for if elected. If it's K Street, that movement Obama is building is going to die shortly after Obama takes office because nobody is going to believe in the prospect of positive political change in America. And he won't miss it because it will have served its purpose from his viewpoint, the next election will be K Street business as usual.

              If it's for America, we have a chance and we'd better use it.

              Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

              by alizard on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:40:28 AM PDT

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      •  You make a valid point (1+ / 0-)
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        and I recommend everyone read Al Giordano at The Field regularly.  His background in community organizing caused him to recognize long ago that Obama was the one who was best positioned to win the nomination.

        In particular, read the piece that defines what is so truly revolutionary about Obama and his campaign, The Narrative Is Not a Story of Technology.  If you watch the embedded video of Obama speaking in Indiana you will see the seed being planted for how Obama is going to transform government so that legislators cannot simply defer to their K Street owners.

        In the article, he discusses Saul Alinsky and his impact, and this is great reading to tide you over until the publication of Kos' new book Taking On the System, which brings Alinsky into the digital age.

        Obama/Feingold - that's the ticket!

        by abrauer on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:50:45 AM PDT

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  •  well take comfort in the fact that Obama would (3+ / 0-)
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    win if the election was held today. The was an artacle in the New York Magazine that finally put the truth out, Obama doesn't have an elitist problem or a problem with his campaign that's making ths a close race. He has a "skin color" problem that makes certain voters who are white over a certain age unreachable no matter what he does. Obama will win with about 52 or 53% which is about what he would get if he was up against Bush or anyone else.

    After Obama's eighth straight victory, Penn told reporters: "Winning Democratic primaries is not a qualification or a sign of who can win the general election.

    by nevadadem on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:31:10 AM PDT

    •  Don't confuse poll results with election returns. (3+ / 0-)
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      2000 and 2004 were only dry runs for the motherfuckers who figured out how to rig an election, and now they've got more electronic voting machines than ever.

      George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

      by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:38:01 AM PDT

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    •  I Have Trouble with WOACA (1+ / 0-)
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      There are a lot of us white people, even of a certain age, who know shit from shinola. I'm not comfortable being a demographic.

      I guess, being "privileged," I'm not used to it.

      That isn't snark. I thought I was immune from reality until I was in my early 20s. My family was strictly noblesse oblige but wouldn't hurt a fly.

      But I still thought my excretions had no odor.

      Some people didn't get over it, and I don't want to be lumped in with them.

      I no longer read The New York Times for the news, I read it for the lie. --Chalmers Johnson

      by JG in MD on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 07:57:48 AM PDT

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  •  what can't be sustained won't be sustained (3+ / 0-)
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    There are two reasons why "Insane" McCain can become President:

    1. The US democratic process is irretrievably broken and can't be fixed short of civil war.

    or

    1. The American people are doing the lemming thing and the election results represent the actual will of the people.

    Either way, America goes into the toilet and gets flushed on "Insane" McCain's watch. Whether one talks economy, military capabilities, or the environment, what has suffered from neglect in the Bush years or during multiple Presidents isn't going to fix itself. The tipping points for this will be during the early part of the next Administration, whoever it belongs to.

    We are in the position of passengers on a cruise ship going full speed ahead, seeing a whole bunch of icebergs on the horizon, and knowing that either the ship takes a sharp left turn or will sink. If the rest of the passengers and crew ignore us, it will be time to take to the lifeboats. Find some other place where people are trying to fix things instead of deny that there's really a problem.

    Even an Obama victory (note: he seems to be holding steady at around 5%+) only means that we get a chance to fix things, not that they will be fixed. For instance, his energy and health care plans are in need of some drastic changes. If he's willing to work with the rest of the party, maybe we'll get them.

    Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

    by alizard on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:37:59 AM PDT

    •  Icebergs? This ship is unsinkable, alizard... (1+ / 0-)
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      We are in the position of passengers on a cruise ship going full speed ahead, seeing a whole bunch of icebergs on the horizon, and knowing that either the ship takes a sharp left turn or will sink.

      My point of view is that we're so convinced that this ship is unsinkable, we're plowing right into a field of icebergs just to show off how strong this thing really is...

      ...and the existing holes in the hull and the design failures that will lead to the sinking don't bother anyone who refused to acknowledge they aren't there...

      George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

      by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:45:24 AM PDT

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      •  they WILL bother people (2+ / 0-)
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        better to hoist a can of brew to them in salute . . . from a lifeboat making speed in some other direction than to be on board when things go smash. While nobody will be in denial at that point, the resources to fix things won't be there.

        As Heinlein once said, "Vox populi, vox Dei" translates in the real world to "My God, how did we get into this mess?"

        If America votes itself into oblivion, the consequences will be that which America has chosen for itself. Just because it's "the will of the people" doesn't mean a people's will can't be suicidal. Ask any German who lived through WWII about this... they voted themselves the disaster they got for politicians that look a whole lot like the GOP of today.

        At that point, we have to admit that America's problems can't be solved by the political process, that we as progressives can't do anything about it, and we have to find a way to get on with our lives. The concept some have of a generational struggle for progressive beliefs doesn't hold up under any sort of critical analysis.

        We've got the money now to take a shot at fixing things. A Bush third term no matter what the President's name is means that America will borrow the money, and give it to the Richistani. If we got someone honest and competent in 2012 somehow after that, that person's first job after taking office wouldn't be fixing things, it's figuring out what major programs and agencies to close down against the background of an America which is admittedly in national bankruptcy.

        So what happens in 2009? Live and find out.

        Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

        by alizard on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:34:21 AM PDT

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        •  I think you just nailed it... (2+ / 0-)
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          It's so shameful that in this country, so many people don't give a shit about other's suffering. They don't care and don't want to be bothered with it. I can't tell you how many people I've heard say that they don't want to pay extra taxes. When I ask them if they would be willing to pay a bit more if it meant health care and further education for everyone, they say no! I hear a lot of, they can pay for their own damn insurance, why should I? It's stuns me, I never knew it was this bad.
          The only time they will care is when it personally and directly affects them. It's so incredibly selfish, thank God the entire world isn't that way.

          "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." - Benjamin Franklin

          by WI Dem on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 06:21:00 AM PDT

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  •  Terrific rant! (3+ / 0-)
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    I agree with what you have said, I also feel the anger, frustration, depression, confusion and shame.
    I cannot understand what the hell is wrong with people, why don't they care more than they do? Why do millions have the time and energy to watch American Idol every week, but they cannot be bothered to watch a political debate.
    How did superficial, mindless crap trump important issues? When did we become a nation of complacent, apathetic fools?

    Thanks for the rant, I totally relate. :D

    "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." - Benjamin Franklin

    by WI Dem on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 06:14:41 AM PDT

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      There was a tipping point when just understanding what's going on in many areas of life just got too complex to follow.

      I'm reminded of a friend of mine who made mucho bucks in the 80s. He sold his business and retired in the 90s because, even though he was a genius, he just didn't want to keep up with the rapid changes in the software world any more.

      I haven't thought this through in detail, but at a certain level of "Huh?" in everyday life, people throw in the towel and either freeze or float along the surface.

      I no longer read The New York Times for the news, I read it for the lie. --Chalmers Johnson

      by JG in MD on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 08:07:15 AM PDT

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    •  Thank you. What you wrote was so much more (0+ / 0-)

      effective than a lifetime of therapy while some asshole tries to convince me that I have to be content with the idea that I can't change anything, but I must never give up....

      George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

      by snafubar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 12:39:50 PM PDT

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